Ethical Dilemma

[FLPHARMD2001]

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I posted this in a pharmacy class thread but would also like to hear from regular pharmacists/preceptors, etc.

I know a pharmacy student who attends pharmacy school in IL but lives and works back home (in MI) during the summer. I have heard that she is going to apply for residency and plans to lie on the residency application and not report her summer work information. She shares a rental during the school year and her landlord has agreed to lie about her summer occupancy as well. Any thoughts on how to handle this situation? We are in the top 5 of honest/trusted professions and I think it is terrible that she would do this.

 

[anewmanx]

Sticky wicket. If she's registered to vote in teh state she's going to school in, that qualifies as residency as well.

Take, for example, many people who live in Vancouver, WA but work in Portland, OR and pay taxes to Oregon State. They are still considered residents for tuition purposes even though their employment and taxes go to another state (no income tax in WA.)

Maybe you should mind you own business.

Absence of less than a year usually does not change one's residency status for tuition purposes. I'm assuming that's the part that has you kerfuffled.

 

[cnicolef08]

I hate to say it but I agree, you should mind your business on this one. Unless her lies will directly affect you in some way or harm a patient or something. Karma is a nasty bi*** so she will get what's coming to her if she's trying to spin a web of lies.

 

[anewmanx]

I think I'm gonna rep some Picard here to get you thinking.

http://memecrunch.com/meme/KN1G/the...long-as-laws-are-absolute/image.jpg?w=711&c=1

 

[gwarm01]

It's none of your business. Don't feel like you have to crusade for some perceived righteousness because you are a pharmacist.

 

[BenJammin]

Sticky wicket. If she's registered to vote in teh state she's going to school in, that qualifies as residency as well.

Take, for example, many people who live in Vancouver, WA but work in Portland, OR and pay taxes to Oregon State. They are still considered residents for tuition purposes even though their employment and taxes go to another state (no income tax in WA.)

Maybe you should mind you own business.

Absence of less than a year usually does not change one's residency status for tuition purposes. I'm assuming that's the part that has you kerfuffled.

That's not true at all. My university refused to grant me in-state status until I proved that I was either married to an in-state resident or that I worked 40 hours a week.

 

[anewmanx]

That's not true at all. My university refused to grant me in-state status until I proved that I was either married to an in-state resident or that I worked 40 hours a week.

Well, I guess that one depends on the university then. Worked for me in 2010 when I was taking a Spanish class at a local college. I'd been in the state less than six months.

 

[Old Timer]

M.Y.O.B.​

 

[confettiflyer]

You're not a sanctioned state employee nor do you know the entire context of their residency application. They could be lying to you, for all you know.

So you should probably mind your own business and not pretend to be a cop or civil servant and let them deal with it.

 

[Sparda29]

Mind your own business. You're probably the same type of person who'd report it when a kid's parents use their brother/sister/cousin's address as their main residence so they could send their kid to the good public schools in that district as opposed to the one they live in.

Hell, I'm trying to figure out a way to get my official "residence" changed to rural Pennsylvania or Texas while living and working in New York City so I can get that cheaper car insurance and be able to buy fun guns.

 

[BenJammin]

Mind your own business. You're probably the same type of person who'd report it when a kid's parents use their brother/sister/cousin's address as their main residence so they could send their kid to the good public schools in that district as opposed to the one they live in.

Hell, I'm trying to figure out a way to get my official "residence" changed to rural Pennsylvania or Texas while living and working in New York City so I can get that cheaper car insurance and be able to buy fun guns.

I cleaned my short barrel shotgun this morning. God bless Texas.

 

[Sparda29]

I cleaned my short barrel shotgun this morning. God bless Texas.

Only guns I have are:

#1 - Ruger American .308 (very powerful gun, take it target shooting and hunting once I get my license, but definitely not a fun gun. The recoil is really hard. My shoulders were bruised very badly after taking 20 shots in a 10 minute time period. Annoying part is that the magazine only holds 4 rounds (+1 in chamber).

#2 - Mosin Nagant 91/30 (found it at a local shop for cheap, bought it once I saw it, beautiful relic of a gun, still fires as if it was 1942-1943 and I was hunting Nazis in Stalingrad.) Annoying to load without one of those stripper clips though.

 

[fauxden]

I posted this in a pharmacy class thread but would also like to hear from regular pharmacists/preceptors, etc.

I know a pharmacy student who attends pharmacy school in IL but lives and works back home (in MI) during the summer. I have heard that she is going to apply for residency and plans to lie on the residency application and not report her summer work information. She shares a rental during the school year and her landlord has agreed to lie about her summer occupancy as well. Any thoughts on how to handle this situation? We are in the top 5 of honest/trusted professions and I think it is terrible that she would do this.

blah blah blah. get over it. stop worrying about your classmates. I'm sure they all hate you anyways ( based on this post) .

 

[gjb07]

I posted this in a pharmacy class thread but would also like to hear from regular pharmacists/preceptors, etc.

I know a pharmacy student who attends pharmacy school in IL but lives and works back home (in MI) during the summer. I have heard that she is going to apply for residency and plans to lie on the residency application and not report her summer work information. She shares a rental during the school year and her landlord has agreed to lie about her summer occupancy as well. Any thoughts on how to handle this situation? We are in the top 5 of honest/trusted professions and I think it is terrible that she would do this.

Living in a different state for 3 months doesn't change residency status. A good friend of mine has worked in 2 different internships in 2 different states the past 2 years. She is only a resident in one state. Even if they did call her out on it she could say it was an administrative error and explain it away, nobody will care.

 

[BidingMyTime]

I would mind your own business, you are going on heresay & you don't know what she actually put on her application, and its not your business to review her application. It would be different if there were some investigation going on, and an official contacted you and wanted to know what you knew of her living situation, but obviously this is pretty much not going to happen. It sounds like you are jealous that she might be getting lower tuition than you. If you are truly concerned about the situation, then I would quit hanging out with her, but I don't see where you are in a position to intervene here.

 

[Dalteparin]

In the immortal words of Homer Simpson, "Who made you Judge Judy and executioner?"

Stay out of it. And take it from someone who did try (and fail) at establishing residency, it's a lot harder than you think. They're going to turn her down whether you say anything or not.