Evaluations

[Lostin_space]

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Do you all have to evaluate your fellow residents? If so are you typically benign or do you let it all out when you evaluate them? I find that resident evals are not infrequently based on whether residents like one another. We are supposed to in our program, I typically decline as I find that it typically strains resident relationships. How do you all handle that?

 

[mvenus929]

When we are the seniors on a rotation, we will be asked to evaluate the interns, and when we are the interns/lowest rank on the rotation, we will be asked to evaluate the seniors, but we don't evaluate those on the same level as us.

I tend not to do the senior evaluations unless they were fantastic or really bad, but I tend to do the intern ones because it's important for them to get feedback. I try to be objective and bring up specific examples when I'm able.

 

[Lostin_space]

When we are the seniors on a rotation, we will be asked to evaluate the interns, and when we are the interns/lowest rank on the rotation, we will be asked to evaluate the seniors, but we don't evaluate those on the same level as us.

I tend not to do the senior evaluations unless they were fantastic or really bad, but I tend to do the intern ones because it's important for them to get feedback. I try to be objective and bring up specific examples when I'm able.

When I said fellow residents I did mean upper and lower, not same level as us, sorry for the confusion. I find it odd because we are asked to evaluate our upper level residents - not just the senior residents but also the intermediate residents, as well as the lower level residents. More often than not, it seems that personality issues are brought up on these types of rotation, so they are typically rather discordant with attending evals. I find them kind of pointless but I'm being asked by my program to provide feedback about this system. I find that more often than not, residents who like each other will grade each other more highly vs. residents who are not friends or dont like each other as much.

 

[mvenus929]

When I said fellow residents I did mean upper and lower, not same level as us, sorry for the confusion. I find it odd because we are asked to evaluate our upper level residents - not just the senior residents but also the intermediate residents, as well as the lower level residents. More often than not, it seems that personality issues are brought up on these types of rotation, so they are typically rather discordant with attending evals. I find them kind of pointless but I'm being asked by my program to provide feedback about this system. I find that more often than not, residents who like each other will grade each other more highly vs. residents who are not friends or dont like each other as much.

I do think having the seniors evaluate is useful, because they spend more time with you than the attendings. There were definitely rotations as an intern where I got fantastic feedback from my seniors, and my attending evaluations were lackluster--it would have been nice to have the seniors on those rotations also give feedback so as to demonstrate that the attendings didn't see everything.

And I emphasized the same level as us, because as second year residents, we acted as interns on some rotations--we took on more responsibility in general, but we still did all the work of the interns. We were asked to evaluate the seniors on those rotations, but not evaluate the interns, and the interns were not asked to evaluate us as second years--so the only evaluations were the seniors to us and us to the seniors.

 

[Lostin_space]

I do think having the seniors evaluate is useful, because they spend more time with you than the attendings. There were definitely rotations as an intern where I got fantastic feedback from my seniors, and my attending evaluations were lackluster--it would have been nice to have the seniors on those rotations also give feedback so as to demonstrate that the attendings didn't see everything.

And I emphasized the same level as us, because as second year residents, we acted as interns on some rotations--we took on more responsibility in general, but we still did all the work of the interns. We were asked to evaluate the seniors on those rotations, but not evaluate the interns, and the interns were not asked to evaluate us as second years--so the only evaluations were the seniors to us and us to the seniors.

Interesting. I think there are a number of residents in my program that don't get a long with each other, so the evals I think reflect more of the personality issues than the true characteristics of the residents, at least from having worked with most of them and the evals just being out of whack. Also the problem is that most of them don't put any comments so it's hard to know what could be the issue. I don't know how to give feedback in this regard. It's also annoying as it makes my job in giving my program feedback regarding this system very problematic. Do I take random numbers and say yep this is a bad resident whent here are no comments or specifics? It's so annoying.

 

[ProfMD]

360 evaluations are become more of a thing. Here we collect evaluations from everyone - attendings, residents (mostly chiefs evaluating the juniors), nurses, even patients and their families.

 

[Lostin_space]

360 evaluations are become more of a thing. Here we collect evaluations from everyone - attendings, residents (mostly chiefs evaluating the juniors), nurses, even patients and their families.

Yes I realize that. We do 360 too, although we don't evaluate nurses, other staff, etc which seems odd to me.

 

[Perrotfish]

Do you all have to evaluate your fellow residents? If so are you typically benign or do you let it all out when you evaluate them? I find that resident evals are not infrequently based on whether residents like one another. We are supposed to in our program, I typically decline as I find that it typically strains resident relationships. How do you all handle that?

We evaluated all of our fellow residents once a year. My policy was to give everyone a perfect score and no comments, unless I felt like the administration was targeting them. In that case I gave them a perfect score and wrote multiple paragraphs about how amazing they were. Pretty much everyone else was on the same page. There was only one Intern in my program who tried to write real feedback about everyone. A few people talked to her about it. She stopped.

The exception to that rule, of course, was a senior evaluating an Intern. The Ssenior is your boss, in that case, and the evaluation is part of your grade. It really doesn't fall under the 360 eval umbrella.

 

[Lostin_space]

We evaluated all of our fellow residents once a year. My policy was to give everyone a perfect score and no comments, unless I felt like the administration was targeting them. In that case I gave them a perfect score and wrote multiple paragraphs about how amazing they were. Pretty much everyone else was on the same page.

There was only one Intern in my program who tried to write real feedback about everyone. A few people talked to her about it. She stopped.

In my program comments are typically not given so we have no clue and it's more typical than not to get avg evals vs. really good ones despite how good you are. In fact I got all excellents on two of my rotations from the chair of our dept and my advisor told me it was an unheard of thing. go figure

 

[Crayola227]

We evaluated all of our fellow residents once a year. My policy was to give everyone a perfect score and no comments, unless I felt like the administration was targeting them. In that case I gave them a perfect score and wrote multiple paragraphs about how amazing they were. Pretty much everyone else was on the same page. There was only one Intern in my program who tried to write real feedback about everyone. A few people talked to her about it. She stopped.

The exception to that rule, of course, was a senior evaluating an Intern. The Ssenior is your boss, in that case, and the evaluation is part of your grade. It really doesn't fall under the 360 eval umbrella.

Not to poke fun, but I am lol'ing because you're in Peds which is notorious for not giving real feedback... but also notorious for "surprise I hate you" passive aggressive feedback.

In any case, I like your approach.

 

[Doctor4Life1769]

As the senior/chief on service, I gave everyone positive evaluations and personalized what they did well and what else to improve on. I never gave negative evals. If I knew someone was being targeted, my personalized message made them look like studs. I hate it when people get targeted for stupid **** though.

If they were BAD, they got personal verbal feedback from me and I would strive to have them improve early. I just don't like torching people in writing unless they were absolutely hopeless. I've only torched one person and he was an M4 for not bothering to show up or when he did it was at the end of clinic and he was checking email and having breakfast. Didn't even show up to morning report.