Florida schools - interviews?

[Strickland22]

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Arsenic posted some answers to questions about UMiami from Dr. Hinkley on another thread recently: Basically, Dr. Hinkley said that the "under evaluation" process and duration of time is highly variable. Essentially, three independent reviewers look over your file and give you a numerical score (based on certain number of points for MCAT, GPA, clinical experience, life experience, LOR, etc.). So how long you are "under evaluation" depends on how quickly your 3 file reviewers review your file. I was complete for 4 months, under evaluation for about 2 months (maybe 1.5 months), and then on the ranked list for about a week or so. Dr. Hinkley did say that some people on the ranked list are periodically rejected, so it's not as if everyone gets on the ranked list. Good Luck

Thanks!

 

[inflamesdjk02]

Yes, I think the alternate list is the waitlist. Your chances on the waitlist are approximately 75%.

Awesome. The email from Dr. Hinkley says that we should inform them in writing if we wish to have our application remain under review, and that email is "perfectly fine". Do you think it matters whether we send a letter or an email? I was probably going to polish up a letter (of intent) so I can put my Herbie Hancock on it. About the 75% chance ... is that based purely on statistics alone or is that the percentage of people who get in that have continued interest after being placed on the alternate list? I don't know if you are privy to that kind of information but I guess it can't hurt to ask.

I guess the best thing to do at this point would just be to chill out. I was pretty disappointed this morning when I received the email, but, after reading some of the posts concerning UM I realize that I may have been interviewing for a spot on the alternate list in the first place. I would be fairly content with going to an in-state school but I really loved Miami. Hopefully I'll be fortunate and get accepted in the summer. Til then, all you Florida kids behave. 😎

 

[gujuDoc]

Inflamed,

Wow I just noticed you were an OOSer. I thought you were in state this whole time. Good luck and don't lose hope. You never know what may happen with the waitlist.

 

[inflamesdjk02]

Inflamed,

Wow I just noticed you were an OOSer. I thought you were in state this whole time. Good luck and don't lose hope. You never know what may happen with the waitlist.

Thanks guju 🙂 I won't get discouraged ... it's not in my hands anymore. I'll send a letter of intent and update admissions with my grades in May after I graduate. From there, it's all up to the guy upstairs.

 

[McMD]

Awesome. The email from Dr. Hinkley says that we should inform them in writing if we wish to have our application remain under review, and that email is "perfectly fine". Do you think it matters whether we send a letter or an email? I was probably going to polish up a letter (of intent) so I can put my Herbie Hancock on it. About the 75% chance ... is that based purely on statistics alone or is that the percentage of people who get in that have continued interest after being placed on the alternate list? I don't know if you are privy to that kind of information but I guess it can't hurt to ask.

I guess the best thing to do at this point would just be to chill out. I was pretty disappointed this morning when I received the email, but, after reading some of the posts concerning UM I realize that I may have been interviewing for a spot on the alternate list in the first place. I would be fairly content with going to an in-state school but I really loved Miami. Hopefully I'll be fortunate and get accepted in the summer. Til then, all you Florida kids behave. 😎

that number was based purely on statistics....sorry, I do not hold priviledged information.

 

[inflamesdjk02]

If it's true about the 75% accept rate off the waitlist ... I don't know about anyone else, but those seem like pretty damn good odds to me. And hopefully I'll have an ace up my sleeve after my BME design group gets our project patented too.

 

[medgator]

dunno squat about ortho, but USF and UM both have ****ty rad onc residency programs. if you want to do radonc in FL, UF is the place to be a resident. but that doesn't matter for med school, you realize?

no clue about boca/miami diff. all i know is south beach is in miami, so to miami I go...

There's 2 (well 3 if you count Mayo Jax) Rad Onc programs in FL... UF and UM. UF's program is awesome, and it's highly ranked in the nation.

To my knowledge, USF doesnt have one (Maybe moffitt is working on one now??). Rad Onc is an extremely competitive field right now on par with derm and plastics, and going to a school with a program will give you a big advantage, all other things equal.

UF and UM both have ortho programs as well, although I know nothing of either of them.

 

[yrodri15]

[gyrates pelvis in a counter-clockwise manner].

 

[yrodri15]

:-( Sorry MrBurns about the LSU game.... That was a heartbreaker....

 

[McMD]

Yrodi...haven't seen you in a while.

 

[yrodri15]

Hey McMD, how are you doing?? I am so bored right now!

 

[McMD]

So how do you guys feel about the new med schools at UCF and FIU?? I've heard about the one at UCF for a while, but the FIU school caught me by surprise. I can see putting one more school in, but is 2 necessary?....I have not researched this topic, so I'm just asking for opinions at this point.

 

[McMD]

Yrodi...Yeah, me too. My fiance and his helicopter got stuck in a snowstorm in the mountains...one of the helicopters has to wait on the mountain til morning to fly back. How crazy is that?! (I think it's crazy at least)

 

[gujuDoc]

Ok, I have some questions:

1)Does USF/UM have an orthopedic surgery and/or radiation oncology residency programs?

2)Does the Boca campus of UM offer many research opportunities or do you have to be at the Miami campus to do research?

Any help with these questions would be greatly appreciated.

To date, USF does not have an orthopedic residency program although they have an orthopedic department. I don't know about the rad onc program either, but it looks like other posts said they don't.

 

[gujuDoc]

Random question and perfect thread to ask it......

For anyone on SDN at this very moment.....

Does the background appear funny on your computer??? On the computer I'm using, and also when I was attempting to use my laptop, the background was showing as white and not the usual SDN background.


Is this some sort of glitch with the website or my computer??? Thanks in advance. I know its a stupid question, but it is kinda annoying me.

 

[MrBurns10]

:-( Sorry MrBurns about the LSU game.... That was a heartbreaker....

Oh...so...painful...But that's what happens when your best player shoots 3-18.

and guju, it's on my friend's computer too (the one I'm on right now), so I think it's a problem with the website.

 

[yrodri15]

The glitch is probably on their forum database.... they'll probably resort to some sort of backup. Stuck in a mountain!? Ack! As for the new med schools... I have mixed feelings... but overall its good for the florida residents.. I am curious to see what hospital FIU will affiliate itself with? I mean, Jackson is taken.. and the only other major hospital chain - Baptist.... is private... it'll be interesting to see how this will unfold.

 

[gujuDoc]

Looks like things are back to normal. YAY!! 😀

 

[gujuDoc]

The glitch is probably on their forum database.... they'll probably resort to some sort of backup. Stuck in a mountain!? Ack! As for the new med schools... I have mixed feelings... but overall its good for the florida residents.. I am curious to see what hospital FIU will affiliate itself with? I mean, Jackson is taken.. and the only other major hospital chain - Baptist.... is private... it'll be interesting to see how this will unfold.

I don't know how FIU will unfold, but I have a good feeling about where UCF will go with its medical school. They are going to be getting affiliation to Regional Hospital and the chain of Florida Hospitals in the Orlando region. Regional Hospital in Orlando is already a well known teaching institute where FSU and UF medical students have some affiliation with from what I've been told by others. They have some pretty astounding well known physicians out there as well, who are pretty world reknown. I think Orlando is a good place for a new med school, but don't know about how the whole FIU thing will work. I'm kinda skeptical about tha tone.

 

[gujuDoc]

So how do you guys feel about the new med schools at UCF and FIU?? I've heard about the one at UCF for a while, but the FIU school caught me by surprise. I can see putting one more school in, but is 2 necessary?....I have not researched this topic, so I'm just asking for opinions at this point.

As I just stated in another post, UCF will go far in my opinion. Orlando could use a medical school. The idea of another med school in Miami right now, not so much. I'd rather just see them have FAU increase its class size more at this point. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

Someone I know brought up a good point with me...

They are increasing med schools but wouldn't they need to increase number of residency spots as well?? Medgator could you comment on this if you are around??

 

[McMD]

The glitch is probably on their forum database.... they'll probably resort to some sort of backup. Stuck in a mountain!? Ack! As for the new med schools... I have mixed feelings... but overall its good for the florida residents.. I am curious to see what hospital FIU will affiliate itself with? I mean, Jackson is taken.. and the only other major hospital chain - Baptist.... is private... it'll be interesting to see how this will unfold.

I have mixed feelings as well. I felt like I was being cynical for not jumping for joy over it. I was happy for one school being added, but two is kind of a bit much (IMO). I don't see Baptist as going academic. I do hope they don't team up with Jackson....be a separate school..don't try to team up with another one. And to add to that, I'm kinda upset at FSU right now for trying to team with Shands and Mayo in Jville....if they are going to have a satellite campus in Jville, they should try to have their own hospital, not use someone else's. Just my $.02

 

[yrodri15]

I agree with you completely. Where is FIU going to go? Jackson is taken (my hospital, MINE). Their only options are Baptist, or some crappy second rate "General Hospital" (i.e. Kendall Regional). In any case, I think the UCF is a great idea.. but the FIU one? We already have UM? I mean seriously.

 

[McMD]

I don't know how FIU will unfold, but I have a good feeling about where UCF will go with its medical school. They are going to be getting affiliation to Regional Hospital and the chain of Florida Hospitals in the Orlando region. Regional Hospital in Orlando is already a well known teaching institute where FSU and UF medical students have some affiliation with from what I've been told by others. They have some pretty astounding well known physicians out there as well, who are pretty world reknown. I think Orlando is a good place for a new med school, but don't know about how the whole FIU thing will work. I'm kinda skeptical about tha tone.

agreed.

 

[gujuDoc]

I have mixed feelings as well. I felt like I was being cynical for not jumping for joy over it. I was happy for one school being added, but two is kind of a bit much (IMO). I don't see Baptist as going academic. I do hope they don't team up with Jackson....be a separate school..don't try to team up with another one. And to add to that, I'm kinda upset at FSU right now for trying to team with Shands and Mayo in Jville....if they are going to have a satellite campus in Jville, they should try to have their own hospital, not use someone else's. Just my $.02

I think FSU's biggest drawback is their lack of facilities in the town where their school is. UCF, however, will have no issue with this because they are in a large metropolitan area. Hopefully, they'll build a new VA in Orlando too. They could use it because right now most Vets are going to Tampa or G'ville for treatment at VA hospitals which is a bit much. Maybe with the new school, they'll get a VA hospital there someday. That's one thing I could see as being beneficial too because VA hospitals tend to be very teaching friendly.

 

[Endee]

UCF's med school will be adding around 90 residency positions in ORMC and Florida Hospital.

 

[deleted77919]

The US is going to be in serious need of physicians in the intermediate future, so it's important to be setting up more schools now. Therefore I think it's great that FL is adding to the capacity to train physicians, esp. with the demographics.

As far as residency spots, no, they will not need to increase the number of residencies to fill them with US MD grads, right now there are more spots than grads and the remainder go to FMG's and DO's. However, in order to increase the supply of physicians (which I believe is the point of opening schools) then yes, the number of residency positions will need to be increased.

The AMA has opposed expanding medical education in the US because it was believed that there would be a physician surplus . . . turns out we're looking at a soon to be shortage.

 

[gujuDoc]

UCF's med school will be adding around 90 residency positions in ORMC and Florida Hospital.

Oh ok. that's good to hear. I want to hear Medgator's opinion on this, since he's a current resident.

 

[deleted77919]

In terms of training, the experience at a community hospital is not the same as at a large tertiary care facility, but for some that won't matter. Sure it means you get less exposure to weird happenings and a varied population, but for many future physicians that is either 1) not important, or 2) they can pick it up in a residency program.

I do think FIU will have a tough time rising up the med school ranks, but that isn't necessarily the point. I have a feeling it will be a viable med school because of the demand for physicians.

 

[McMD]

I'm not trying to undermine any of these institutions, but with 3 medical schools just starting out all in the same state, isn't it potentially dangerous?...I mean kinks DO have to be worked out and having 3 schools working out their kinks while trying to train hundreds of students to be physicians...I just see that as "dangerous."

Not to mention we will have 3 schools that are poorly ranked due to their newness and it will take years for them to establish themselves.

 

[Endee]

I'm curious as to what extent UCF and UPR will collaborate. I don't want to see UCF using UPR as a crutch. Collaborate with research, sure, but make a name for yourself on your own for academics, don't use a foreign school.

 

[gujuDoc]

I'm not trying to undermine any of these institutions, but with 3 medical schools just starting out all in the same state, isn't it potentially dangerous?...I mean kinks DO have to be worked out and having 3 schools working out their kinks while trying to train hundreds of students to be physicians...I just see that as "dangerous."

The MD schools, at least, don't start with 100 students. My biggest issue with LECOM a few years back, was that they rushed to get a 100+ students from year 1 which did not do wonders for getting the most competitve applicants that they could.

At least, with the MD schools, they won't start with 120+ students from first year initiation. They'll start with a small class size and work their way up. So by the time they get to that point, they'll be able to handle more students.

 

[gujuDoc]

I'm curious as to what extent UCF and UPR will collaborate. I don't want to see UCF using UPR as a crutch. Collaborate with research, sure, but make a name for yourself on your own for academics, don't use a foreign school.

What does UPR stand for???

 

[Endee]

University of Puerto Rico

 

[McMD]

Guju...Yes I know that...say 50 at UCF, 50 at FIU and 100-120 at FSU (FSU is increasing their class size).

 

[deleted77919]

I mean kinks DO have to be worked out and having 3 schools working out their kinks while trying to train hundreds of students to be physicians...I just see that as "dangerous."

Not to mention we will have 3 schools that are poorly ranked due to their newness and it will take years for them to establish themselves.

As guju said, I don't think the MD schools will open their doors tomorrow with 100+ new spots, it'll be a process that takes a few years and will expand slowly (like the FAU program is currently doing).

The point about the ranking is well taken because it means these schools will be competing for largly the same pool of applicants.

 

[gujuDoc]

Guju...Yes I know that...say 50 at UCF, 50 at FIU and 100-120 at FSU (FSU is increasing their class size).

Ok I think I misunderstood your original post. Put that way, you have a good point. I guess only time will tell how things play out.

 

[gujuDoc]

On a totally random note.....wish me luck on getting my computer to work cuz I'm about to go home and see if it has cooled down some and will work.

Oh and hopefully I wont have the formatting issues on my lap top if it is working cuz apparently some peepz still having issues. Ok be back in a bit. Laterz. 😛

 

[McMD]

As guju said, I don't think the MD schools will open their doors tomorrow with 100+ new spots, it'll be a process that takes a few years and will expand slowly (like the FAU program is currently doing).

The point about the ranking is well taken because it means these schools will be competing for largly the same pool of applicants.

yes...they will be competing for the same pool of applicants and those applicants (let's not kid ourselves) will probably not be the ones with a 38 MCAT and 4.0 GPA, they will most likely be the ones who didn't get accepted to the other state schools (FSU had this problem and are only now starting to raise their stats)....

 

[deleted77919]

Guju...Yes I know that...say 50 at UCF, 50 at FIU and 100-120 at FSU (FSU is increasing their class size).

I had no idea FSU was increasing their class size by that much . . . that could be problematic.

It also might be difficult to attract enough quality faculty at the same time to several new institutions all in close proximity . . . where do new faculty come from exactly?

 

[McMD]

Yes, I can't remember exactly bc my interview was in Sept...but either FSU is increasing their class to 120 this year or next year. Maybe it was increased to 100 this year and 120 next year...anyways, yeah...it's increasing.

It depends...some clinicians "retire" and start to teach since it's less demanding hours.....and some have wanted to go into academia all along.

 

[McMD]

I hope we have enough cadavers

 

[McMD]

Dakota...where else were you accepted? (just wondering)

 

[unfrozencaveman]

I'm curious as to what extent UCF and UPR will collaborate. I don't want to see UCF using UPR as a crutch. Collaborate with research, sure, but make a name for yourself on your own for academics, don't use a foreign school.

Why not? Duke, Harvard, and Cornell do it, and they're no worse for the wear. Having a linkage down there would be great for UCF students I would think.

If FIU could put up a brand new hospital (I doubt it), Miami sure as hell needs it. Jackson is great for us because it's overrun by patients, but not so great for patients who spend 48 hours waiting in the sweatiest place on earth for emergency services.

 

[McMD]

Why not? Duke, Harvard, and Cornell do it, and they're no worse for the wear. Having a linkage down there would be great for UCF students I would think.

If FIU could put up a brand new hospital (I doubt it), Miami sure as hell needs it. Jackson is great for us because it's overrun by patients, but not so great for patients who spend 48 hours waiting in the sweatiest place on earth for emergency services.

it takes FOREVER (said that like in Sand Lot) for a hospital to be planned and built!! It would be a long time before FIU could do that.

 

[unfrozencaveman]

it takes FOREVER (said that like in Sand Lot) for a hospital to be planned and built!! It would be a long time before FIU could do that.

You're joking...

Oh, do you have the number for parking at UM?

 

[McMD]

You're joking...

Oh, do you have the number for parking at UM?

dammit Unfrozen...I come over and dial it FOR YOU and then you go see Mr. Burns...really...I feel unloved! 🙁

 

[deleted77919]

Dakota...where else were you accepted? (just wondering)

Sent you a PM.

 

[McMD]

I'm testing to see if my new avatar works.

 

[McMD]

I'm testing to see if my new avatar works.

NOPE!

 

[MrBurns10]

dammit Unfrozen...I come over and dial it FOR YOU and then you go see Mr. Burns...really...I feel unloved! 🙁

I've got her hooked, too. She's coming back for more every weekend for the next month.

About the med school thing, I agree that UCF is a great idea and FIU not so much. My initial impression when I heard about FIU was that it wouldn't be fair if they were to share Jackson with UM. That's probably a little selfish of me, but one of the draws of UM for me is the amount of responsibility that students are given. Don't make me have to take out some FIU students so I can do all the cool stuff...