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Also Any one knows what is the waiting time for the CPE after you complete the paperwork?
Do you get to chose your exam date ?
thanks,
Do you get to chose your exam date ?
thanks,
Did you find out about these books, I cant find anything on the one by Joshua Furman, nothing on the internet about this guy... amazing... How did you do on your exams ??Does anyone know anything about those books?
Saunders NAVLE Board Review: With VETERINARY CONSULT Access (Paperback)
by Patricia Schenck (Author)
Veterinary board review book : a complete review for the NAVLE and clinics / by written by Joshua Furman. 2006
Thanks!
The waiting time on the CPE will depend on the availability of open slots for the exam (anything from half a year to a year). On the application form you can pick your first - I think it was 5 - choices where you would like to go - And they will scheddule you according to the availability of places (try not to go to Las Vegas!)Also Any one knows what is the waiting time for the CPE after you complete the paperwork?
Do you get to chose your exam date ?
thanks,
Did you find out about these books, I cant find anything on the one by Joshua Furman, nothing on the internet about this guy... amazing... How did you do on your exams ??
To all out there who have received the manual for the CPE exam - I advise you to call AVMA EVERY MONTH - or even in shorter intervalls before your exam to make sure you still have the curren information and not one of the ex have been changed! I just leanred by pure chance that the manual I was preparing after got updated in January this year and the AVMA forgot to tell me this - so now - 4 weeks short before my exam date I received a BIG shock to find out the small animal exam has completely changed (with a compeltely ridiculous writing part!!! that counts for 40%) and the Anesthesia exam too!!!
That is a tough one if you are full-time working! I basically spend 3 months with an equine vet (did'nt have much horse experience), 2 weeks with a cow practice and 2 months in a small animal clinic. Perhaps you could find an emergency clinic and do there a couple of hours a week? What I did was basically copy the pages of the exam on the animal species I was working at the moment and gave them to the vets - so that they knew what specifically I needed to be able to do - the cow vets were really good - they went point after point with me through the list. And the veterinary nurses were very good sources for the clin path exam. Another tip - I heared in Oklahoma the radiology exam is very difficlut - you might want to pay special attention to that. The Thrall is the book you should go through for that. Good Luck!!!Thank you so much for that tip! I am taking the CPE next year April 1-4 in Oklahoma. How do you - or anyone else - get some practical experience for the CPE? Especially if you are busy with another full-time job, like me? Any tip would be helpful.
Hey there:
I am a veterinarian and I should do my BCSE exam on this Nov but I don't have any specific idea about references ( I mean summaries reference).I will be glad if someone give me advice.
Best wishes.
Farzin
here is an excelant website. this helped me a lot with basics and it's free
http://education.vetmed.vt.edu/Curriculum/VM8414/Clinical%20Pathology Website/Lectures/lecture.htm
I've been try to email you but couldn't do soHello my friend:
I just wanted to say thanks a lot to answer my question.Can you tell me ,did you do BCSE?And if you did,How was that????
I would really happy if you will answer me in my Email address ( [email protected] ) .
Again thank you for all information and also for website.
Farzin
Hello my friend:
I just wanted to say thanks a lot to answer my question.Can you tell me ,did you do BCSE?And if you did,How was that????
I would really happy if you will answer me in my Email address ( [email protected] ) .
Again thank you for all information and also for website.
Farzin
Hello, dvmjakishYes I did. Well, If you read the previous threads you would know that I failed the NAVLE for 1 point 424/ needed 425. So Preparing for the BCSE was very easy. The exam was really simple. Although they never said how well I did, (they only tell you only passed or failed). I'm sure I have scored 85-90 %.
To compare that with NAVLE it was a joke.
Time was never an issue like it was in NAVLE. In the Navle you hardly have time to read the question , they were long and confusing sometimes. In BCSE I was able to read and answer the question twice. and had some extra time.
At the NAVLE you go from section to other where you no longer able to go back to questions from section you have finished. (60 question each).
BCSE in other hand, you have access to all questions at all times.
There were no tricks in BCSE except one question which had absolutely two correct answers and until this day I couldnt know which one is better answer.
If you read the books I mentioned you will do well. Also dont forget Aesthesia, blood, and histopathology things like vaginal swaps in dog () . Parasites questions were very few, 3-4 with very nice photos . you will know them for sure.
Radiology, and clinical pathology photos where 100 clear and easy. I wish I had 50 % of this quality in the NAVLE. Navle photos were bad, really bad.
Good luck.
Hello dvmjakish:Yes I did. Well, If you read the previous threads you would know that I failed the NAVLE for 1 point 424/ needed 425. So Preparing for the BCSE was very easy. The exam was really simple. Although they never said how well I did, (they only tell you only passed or failed). I'm sure I have scored 85-90 %.
To compare that with NAVLE it was a joke.
Time was never an issue like it was in NAVLE. In the Navle you hardly have time to read the question , they were long and confusing sometimes. In BCSE I was able to read and answer the question twice. and had some extra time.
At the NAVLE you go from section to other where you no longer able to go back to questions from section you have finished. (60 question each).
BCSE in other hand, you have access to all questions at all times.
There were no tricks in BCSE except one question which had absolutely two correct answers and until this day I couldn't know which one is better answer.
If you read the books I mentioned you will do well. Also don't forget Aesthesia, blood, and histopathology things like vaginal swaps in dog…() . Parasites questions were very few, 3-4 with very nice photos . you will know them for sure.
Radiology, and clinical pathology photos where 100 clear and easy. I wish I had 50 % of this quality in the NAVLE. Navle photos were bad, really bad.
Good luck.
Hi guys, i was looking for material to prepare for the CPE exam and i found this forum. I am a graduate from Mexico but i've lived (and practiced vet med) in the US since 2003 (in a place where i don't need license). Nevertheless i want to have my license to be able to get another position if the opportunity comes up. I did not passed the NAVLE exam the 1st time for 5 points (pretty painful) so i decided to have a better strategy for my last attempt (last December); i passed with 100 points over the mark so it's possible. It takes time and discipline. Here is what i think is a good approach, may not work for everyone but it's a start:
1) Preparation notes from vet students in 4th year- i found this to be the key. I got them from my students that were sitting at the same time i was. The notes were comprehensive and with what you need. Contact (maybe trough this website) 4th year vet students in the U.S and ask them for NAVLE review notes. They have review classes and are the best. The A-Z review that is floating around is SO outdated that i did not find it useful.
2) Concentrate in dog, cat, horse and cattle medicine; if you don't have time for pigs and small ruminants, exotics, etc is OK. Everyone freaks out about pigs but in reallity if you cruise on the other topics even if you fail pigs, you are OK.
3) Use Merck or other good books (Kirk, Ettinger, Nelson) for big topics, do not rely on summaries, MOSBY, etc for that. Read them well (all the endocrine stuff in small animals, infectious in horses, etc).
4) Review topics using the UFLA videos (>20 videos), take notes of them and read them again before the exam. Do not use them as only source. They take time (videos are +/- 1hr or more) and if you write notes up to 3 hours but worth to write notes.
5) Sign in on Zuku.com review (free, and OK) or vetprep.com (not free but great) and practice after studying.
NOTE: You will not be able to pass studying only on Q&A books or websites, believe me.
I studied an average of 5hrs a day since July (after the WorldCup ) and took my exam on Dec 8th, so 5 months of hard work but it paid off.
GOOD LUCK TO ALL, and do not get discourage if you don't pass the first or 2nd time. IT IS DOABLE.
carsan98
I passed step 2 4 months ago , which one are you taking?Hello Rocibell: I'm also from Peru and got stuck on step 2. I took the Navle twice and the last time I was 7 points short. PLease write me at [email protected] to share some info. Where did you graduate from? I finished at the FMVZ of the University of Ica.
I can help you with the IELTS..
I just did mine on the 22nd of September, now I will tell you about the European exam which i would expect to be the same as the North American too. I am preparing to do the British license to practice as a vet. here. RCVS
So IELTS is -in my opinion - very easy and YES it is easier the TOEFL. The first section was the listening part which had a CD playing, before the CD starts playing they give you 4 or 5 sheets that has 40 questions mainly fill in the space or choose on of the choices based on what you hear, you will need to listen very carefully as the answers could be some times deceiving and not the exact word (sometimes you need to get the meaning of the word and the word t self) I doubt you will have problems with that.. Just try to practice more listening which I would imagine you do living in the USA, just notice they do use different accents in the CD (Canadian, Australian..Etc). This part was for 50 minutes. (Not sure).
Second part was the reading part where they start by giving you few sheets and there is 3 different long paragraphs on them (if you are doing Academic IELTS it will have more scientific words in them), this section has 40 Questions too distributed through the three paragraphs, BE CAREFUL you have to get sued to reading fast as they might be long if you are not. a good strategy for answering would be to look for the question then try to locate the answer within the paragraph before reading the whole thing.
This one was for 60 minutes.
Third part was the writing part which is for 60 min. This one they give you two questions, one is a graph and you comment on it (20 minutes) then the second one is a subject mainly scientific 40 minutes
You have to write for the first one at least 150 words so be careful of the words count, and the second one is 250 words at least.
$th Part - is the speaking part , This one takes a part usually at least 2 hours after you finish the first three were you go 1 on 1 with an instructor. They take you to a separate room and they ask general question ... like tell me about your self then they will ask things like name some one you know and you like spending time with and tell me why you do like him/her and what do you do with him/ her...etc. THEY JUST WANT TO SEE IF YOU CAN CARRY A CONVERSATION.. They might ask you to speak about a subject for 2 -3 minutes. This takes 15-20 minutes MAX
NOW it might be worth mentioning that there are two types of IELTS - General and |Academic, The Academic is the one for professionals...
Hope this helps...
Best of Luck
Hi guys, i was looking for material to prepare for the CPE exam and i found this forum. I am a graduate from Mexico but i've lived (and practiced vet med) in the US since 2003 (in a place where i don't need license). Nevertheless i want to have my license to be able to get another position if the opportunity comes up. I did not passed the NAVLE exam the 1st time for 5 points (pretty painful) so i decided to have a better strategy for my last attempt (last December); i passed with 100 points over the mark so it's possible. It takes time and discipline. Here is what i think is a good approach, may not work for everyone but it's a start:
1) Preparation notes from vet students in 4th year- i found this to be the key. I got them from my students that were sitting at the same time i was. The notes were comprehensive and with what you need. Contact (maybe trough this website) 4th year vet students in the U.S and ask them for NAVLE review notes. They have review classes and are the best. The A-Z review that is floating around is SO outdated that i did not find it useful.
2) Concentrate in dog, cat, horse and cattle medicine; if you don't have time for pigs and small ruminants, exotics, etc is OK. Everyone freaks out about pigs but in reallity if you cruise on the other topics even if you fail pigs, you are OK.
3) Use Merck or other good books (Kirk, Ettinger, Nelson) for big topics, do not rely on summaries, MOSBY, etc for that. Read them well (all the endocrine stuff in small animals, infectious in horses, etc).
4) Review topics using the UFLA videos (>20 videos), take notes of them and read them again before the exam. Do not use them as only source. They take time (videos are +/- 1hr or more) and if you write notes up to 3 hours but worth to write notes.
5) Sign in on Zuku.com review (free, and OK) or vetprep.com (not free but great) and practice after studying.
NOTE: You will not be able to pass studying only on Q&A books or websites, believe me.
I studied an average of 5hrs a day since July (after the WorldCup ) and took my exam on Dec 8th, so 5 months of hard work but it paid off.
GOOD LUCK TO ALL, and do not get discourage if you don't pass the first or 2nd time. IT IS DOABLE.
carsan98
Hi,
is anybody here going to or went for CPE to Tukegee?Any tips? I am going in May I would love to know your experiences.
Thanks,
Jitkarie.
hi,Hi~ there~
I am wondering why more candidates want to take BCSE rather than QE...
Is ECFVG esier than PAVE relatively?
I think PAVE has more options in terms of Step 4, ECY.
Please let me know why most people want to get the license through the ECFVG.
Thank you~
hi,
I am praparing for QE under PAVE.
the reasons might be :
1. it's not accepted thru out US
2. before this april, under ECFVG u just have to clear NAVLE.(unlike under AAVSB PAVE..QE< one extra).
if u r interested in applying for QE we can have a study group.
Hey there:
I am a veterinarian and I should do my BCSE exam on this Nov but I don't have any specific idea about references ( I mean summaries reference).I will be glad if someone give me advice.
Best wishes.
Farzin
QUOTE=cocker;5671867]Unfortunately, I don't know anybody who needs to do the British exams. I have one friend working as a vet in GB but our diploma is recognized by RCVS so that he hadn't to pass the steps you have mentioned. I' m sorry.
Anyway, I cross my fingers for you.
P.S. I have a question. Was it difficult for you, I mean the listening (especially those various accents) and the writing section (to make a comment) in IELTS?
QUOTE=cocker;5671867]Unfortunately, I don't know anybody who needs to do the British exams. I have one friend working as a vet in GB but our diploma is recognized by RCVS so that he hadn't to pass the steps you have mentioned. I' m sorry.
Anyway, I cross my fingers for you.
P.S. I have a question. Was it difficult for you, I mean the listening (especially those various accents) and the writing section (to make a comment) in IELTS?
Thank you so much for that tip! I am taking the CPE next year April 1-4 in Oklahoma. How do you - or anyone else - get some practical experience for the CPE? Especially if you are busy with another full-time job, like me? Any tip would be helpful.
I know how you felt when you got that manual - i just thought - no way! I have had it since last year in autumn, so I have been adjusting to the tought that I will be doing a very costly experiment. I am schedduled to take the CPE in September in Las Vegas Since the start of this year I have been doing externships with equine vets, food animal vets, and a smal animal hospital, to get some more practical experience. But if all of this will be enough, I don't know.
I will definitely let the forum know about my experiences - I find it singularly frustating that no one who has taken the CPE has come forward for some information!
I agree, That's what I'm doing. I work as a technician in small animal hospital and signed up for two days a week externship at large animal hospital (equine, bovine....). also I would go to a animal shelter in your area where they do spay dogs and cats and do some for them for free. I think you can do that by law as student on un-owned animal with a presence of licensed veterinarian. last thing you can do is a couple of day at a veterinary lab. and you are set.. this is my plan.[Hi Vet 1998.
I've heard the clinical year is good, although I don't know how much they let you do. But in my opinion it's not necessary at all! First it's quite expensive (around $20 000) plus you lose a year. It's already better to go try 4times the CPE for this money! I think it's better to drive around with vets either as a paid technician or as an externship or working student-free help is always welcome and you have already passed the NAVLE so don't worry! When and where is your CPE?
Good luck,
Jitkarie.
Can I ask you which state are you in? Since I had the same plan as you and wanted to go to an animal shelter but I found out that in FL by law you cannot do the spays unless you are a student of an accredited veterinary school