GGoats ThWWee: Here It GGoats Again - GAME THREAD

[WildZoo]

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I don’t have one without her being here to post

 

[KayJayQueue]

I just can’t see an argument for this. Dubz is pure Neutral at worst.

Bottom of your scum list only above Mads?

KJQ pls

Ummm did you not pay attention to wtf just happened at EoD???

 

[WildZoo]

Tho you are acting like you know how mad would flip

Not any more than anyone else who is talking about her right now.

 

[samac]

Not any more than anyone else who is talking about her right now.

I’m trying not to preflip. Doesn’t work well

 

[WildZoo]

Just frustrating because of how I know i would have behaved if we were partners, and if I hadn't had to sit on fruit for self-preservation I would have voted for her, so the entire narrative is particularly irksome

 

[Zenge142]

Ummm did you not pay attention to wtf just happened at EoD???

I didn’t see anything that would suggest Dubz should be where you’ve put her on your reads list.

 

[samac]

Just frustrating because of how I know i would have behaved if we were partners, and if I hadn't had to sit on fruit for self-preservation I would have voted for her, so the entire narrative is particularly irksome

If it makes you feel better I refused to go to you on an EOD flashwagon without Zenges telling me to lol

 

[samac]

I also swear to god if we flip mads wolf and anyone pushes me after that I will only converse with you in all caps

 

[samac]

Fine.
Yeet fruit

Don’t sad me @Zenge142 i was panicking and gonna die lol

 

[WildZoo]

I also swear to god if we flip mads wolf and anyone pushes me after that I will only converse with you in all caps

I dunno samac. Did you really try that hard to get her yeeted??

 

[samac]

I dunno samac. Did you really try that hard to get her yeeted??

I WILL FIGHT YOU

 

[WildZoo]

If it makes you feel better I refused to go to you on an EOD flashwagon without Zenges telling me to lol

No I'm still sad about the whole thing tbh

 

[samac]

No I'm still sad about the whole thing tbh

I do feel that.

 

[WildZoo]

I WILL FIGHT YOU

You can't, if she flips wolf I'll point out that you were hedging on whether she was sus and I was the one who made this post in response

Oddly enough my impression is she's been a bit more active (or at least was during D0) but with less substance in those active posts. I wouldn't give that impression a lot of weight because I haven't fact checked it.

She also reacted to someone voting her for mayor about the way I would expect a wolf looking to not be in the spotlight to react.

 

[GreedyBanger]

I hate going into a day with the execution a fait accompli because it kills info but I dont see how we avoid it here

 

[WildZoo]

If she flips village I will request that everyone forget I ever said anything hmmyes

 

[samac]

You can't, if she flips wolf I'll point out that you were hedging on whether she was sus and I was the one who made this post in response

YOU ARE NOT SERIOUS
I PUT MY VOTE ON HER
THE FIRST VOTE ON HER
AND LEFT THE THREAD

YOU JUST WANT ME IN CAPS LOCK DONT YOU

 

[KayJayQueue]

I hate going into a day with the execution a fait accompli because it kills info but I dont see how we avoid it here

How do you feel about Dubz? Zenge is making me feel crazy and I don’t like it so if I’m crazy tell me.

 

[samac]

I hate going into a day with the execution a fait accompli because it kills info but I dont see how we avoid it here

Huh

 

[GreedyBanger]

How do you feel about Dubz? Zenge is making me feel crazy and I don’t like it so if I’m crazy tell me.

If Mad flips red dubz dies on day 3. Even they accept theres no real way around it. Zenge just fingerwags everything and doesnt really contribute much of their own. Like they are town but don't take it to heart

 

[samac]

If Mad flips red dubz dies on day 3. Even they accept theres no real way around it. Zenge just fingerwags everything and doesnt really contribute much of their own. Like they are town but don't take it to heart

I trust Zenges read on Dubz tbh. He hasn’t solidified her as town but if he does she’s lock town to me

 

[GreedyBanger]

Huh

Tomorrow is gonna be really baron for VCA and associative building because everyone is gonna just dogpile Mads and everyone else knows they are safe.

I'm lamenting this fact while also saying I agree it has to happen

 

[Zenge142]

If Mad flips red dubz dies on day 3. Even they accept theres no real way around it. Zenge just fingerwags everything and doesnt really contribute much of their own. Like they are town but don't take it to heart

Pretty sure I’ve given my thoughts on everyone here throughout the game.

If you have specific questions feel free to ask. But if you’d rather just blindly yeet Dubz with out considering alternatives, that’s your prerogative.

 

[KayJayQueue]

I trust Zenges read on Dubz tbh. He hasn’t solidified her as town but if he does she’s lock town to me

Why do you trust the read that Dubz is town? What do you think mads was doing at EoD? Do you think she’s a mastermind trying to frame Dubz?

 

[KayJayQueue]

Pretty sure I’ve given my thoughts on everyone here throughout the game.

If you have specific questions feel free to ask. But if you’d rather just blindly yeet Dubz with out considering alternatives, that’s your prerogative.

We want to yeet mads. We would be yeeting Dubz with good reasoning on a scum flip. Why do you think that is a blind action?

 

[vampyrica]

It's not my primary concern at the moment because I think Kay and vampy are both village but I would like to figure out where the disconnect is so I can work with them

im sorry for the vote, i didnt know where else to put my finger. but im happy to explain my logic so that we can move past this.

i really wanted a clem vote. because i dont see how he is beneficial to town if he didnt even vote, and i understand we are all busy irl. but to joke vote day 1, then not vote at all day 2 and nobody bats an eye is pretty frustrating, and its not like he hasnt done this before, he did this in Mission ImpoWWsible and PokeWWon. my clem suggestion was shut down and so i moved on bc nobody at the time seemed willing to look into it with me. im not for voting newbies on day one because i was a newbie literally 2 games ago and it didnt feel nice getting the finger pointed at me just for being inexperienced, so i swore off newbies. mads i didnt wanna believe was scum, but i fear now i have to. samac i dont believe is scum, and still dont believe shes scum. GB and Lissa were outlier votes IMO pointing fingers at eachother. PSV is still a neutral weird read in my book.
so i went with a vote based on someone i barely played with, aka you. not a good excuse for a vote but the excuse none the less.

give me like another cycle to play with you and i'll get a better read on you so that if and when i vote for you next time, i'll have a better reason than "welp, i was limited on options and idk how to play with you so, yeet"

 

[KayJayQueue]

AH I don't like this tie

#########Vote Fruit###########

It’s night time now and we can talk. I think everyone would really appreciate you explaining your end of day actions.

 

[vampyrica]

im sorry for the vote, i didnt know where else to put my finger. but im happy to explain my logic so that we can move past this.

i really wanted a clem vote. because i dont see how he is beneficial to town if he didnt even vote, and i understand we are all busy irl. but to joke vote day 1, then not vote at all day 2 and nobody bats an eye is pretty frustrating, and its not like he hasnt done this before, he did this in Mission ImpoWWsible and PokeWWon. my clem suggestion was shut down and so i moved on bc nobody at the time seemed willing to look into it with me. im not for voting newbies on day one because i was a newbie literally 2 games ago and it didnt feel nice getting the finger pointed at me just for being inexperienced, so i swore off newbies. mads i didnt wanna believe was scum, but i fear now i have to. samac i dont believe is scum, and still dont believe shes scum. GB and Lissa were outlier votes IMO pointing fingers at eachother. PSV is still a neutral weird read in my book.
so i went with a vote based on someone i barely played with, aka you. not a good excuse for a vote but the excuse none the less.

give me like another cycle to play with you and i'll get a better read on you so that if and when i vote for you next time, i'll have a better reason than "welp, i was limited on options and idk how to play with you so, yeet"

sorry it was technically D0 bc of mayor elections

 

[samac]

@Animal Midwife
Miss you

 

[Zenge142]

D1: An Officialish Tally or Something
Damn shorty usually makes these pretty or something doesn't she

Lissa (0) -
PSV (0) -
fruit (3) - dubz, mkg, genny
Greedy (1) - Lissa
mads (3) - samac, Zenge, beans
beans (1) - Sakuraaa
dubz () -
Zenge () -
samac (4) - PSV, KJQ, Greedy, fruit
clem (1) - vampy

13/15
Missing: @Clem J and @madrigal01
yeet close in ~30 minutes

unyeet Clem

yeet WildZoo

let's try this

unyeet samac
yeet WZ

Unvote
Vote WZ

 

[KayJayQueue]

Fruit isn't given new player D1 distance because they played multiple days last game

Btw I feel like mads and sometimes vampy were still given some new player benefit of the doubt in their second game so I don’t like this excuse.

Especially when we had a literal scum game to compare to when trying to sort fruit here. Ugh. So frustrated about this.

 

[Zenge142]

D1: An Officialish Tally or Something
Damn shorty usually makes these pretty or something doesn't she

Lissa (0) -
PSV (0) -
fruit (3) - dubz, mkg, genny
Greedy (1) - Lissa
mads (2) - Zenge, beans
beans (1) - Sakuraaa
dubz (3) - vampy, fruit, Greedy
Zenge () -
samac (2) - PSV, KJQ
clem () -

12/15
Missing: @Clem J and @madrigal01 and @samac
yeet close in ~10 minutes

A tie?!?!

Mads doesn't die today, once she votes flashwagon gang has the numbers and she's at the very least an associate member

Samac, who are you voting? Fruit? Because if you're not voting me and you're not voting dubz without zenge you're otherwise throwing away your vote

D1: An Officialish Tally or Something
Damn shorty usually makes these pretty or something doesn't she

Lissa (0) -
PSV (0) -
fruit (4) - dubz, mkg, genny, samac
Greedy (1) - Lissa
mads (2) - Zenge, beans
beans (1) - Sakuraaa
dubz (3) - vampy, fruit, Greedy
Zenge () -
samac (2) - PSV, KJQ
clem () -

13/15
Missing: @Clem J and @madrigal01
yeet close in ~4 minutes

(This may be your last official tally before the typically SDN Scramble, fair warning)

unyeet samac
Yeet Dubz

Tempted to vote dubz for funsies but don't think we can risk losing 3 village in one night lmao

AH I don't like this tie

#########Vote Fruit###########

Manual Tallying Tickles Animal Midwife's Autism - D1 FINAL Tally

Lissa (0) -
PSV (0) -
fruit (5) - dubz, mkg, genny, samac, mads
Greedy (1) - Lissa
mads (2) - Zenge, beans
beans (1) - Sakuraaa
dubz (4) - vampy, fruit, Greedy, KJQ
Zenge () -
samac (1) - PSV
clem () -

14/15
@fruitsalad, you are in the lead!
Missing: @Clem J

Check your votes.

 

[KayJayQueue]

I can’t quote the post because it’s all quotes but this is @Zenge142

Until Dubz is confirmed one way or another, I don’t see what you’re trying to point out here. The only confirmed town voted for Dubz, how terrible? Why is this an issue?

 

[Zenge142]

Nothing about this EOD progression suggests that a wolf!Mads = wolf!dubz.

Literally nothing

 

[KayJayQueue]

Nothing about this EOD progression suggests that a wolf!Mads = wolf!dubz.

Literally nothing

You’re blinded by your own read then.

 

[vampyrica]

Btw I feel like mads and sometimes vampy were still given some new player benefit of the doubt in their second game so I don’t like this excuse.

Especially when we had a literal scum game to compare to when trying to sort fruit here. Ugh. So frustrated about this.

to be fair, in PokeWWon i died N2, and lived long enough in Mission ImpoWWsible to get my noob badge removed by the end of the game

 

[Zenge142]

You’re blinded by your own read then.

Lay it out for me then. What’s so damning exactly? I don’t see it.

 

[beans2020]

RIP fruit, gone but never forgotten 😭

 

[KayJayQueue]

to be fair, in PokeWWon i died N2, and lived long enough in Mission ImpoWWsible to get my noob badge removed by the end of the game

Yes by the end of the game. But mads lasted until EoD her first game and I believe was still treated as a new player game 2 so why was fruit treated differently? Feels like an excuse that doesn’t actually check out.

 

[GreedyBanger]

Can I just say I know I come across prickly sometimes but this is a really fun group to play with and i'm enjoying this game a lot

 

[KayJayQueue]

Lay it out for me then. What’s so damning exactly? I don’t see it.

I already did!! Read my posts that begun after the day closed!

 

[beans2020]

if I'm following correctly, we're thinking mads and potentially dubz are wolves, right? Do we think there's a third wolf out there somewhere too?

 

[Zenge142]

I already did!! Read my posts that begun after the day closed!

I have read them all a couple times now. I don’t see a cohesive explanation for your case that wolf!madrigal = wolf!dubz.

Can you direct me to the specific post. I’m either blind or it doesn’t exist

 

[vampyrica]

if I'm following correctly, we're thinking mads and potentially dubz are wolves, right? Do we think there's a third wolf out there somewhere too?

typically there is 3 wolves, but we can never be too sure bc this is another chaos game

 

[Zenge142]

and potentially dubz are wolves, right

No just Mads. The Dubz case is nonsense

 

[KayJayQueue]

if I'm following correctly, we're thinking mads and potentially dubz are wolves, right? Do we think there's a third wolf out there somewhere too?

I mean, as much as I’m trying not to overly rely on mechanics this time, I absolutely think that a 15 player game has 3 scum minimum. Even if there’s a 3p, I believe there would still be 3 scum.

 

[madrigal01]

Alright, lets try to clear my name. If y'all are still sold on me flipping wolf after that, then so be it.

1. My reads list. I was at lunch on my phone with not a lot of time. I copied WildZoo's read list (you can compare, it's in the same order) and didn't realize she didn't include herself on the list. I kept counting and only getting to 14, so I knew I was missing someone, hence the last note, but didn't have time to realize it was her.

2. My vote. Firstly, sorry fruit. I'm really sad you flipped town. Second, when I posted my *joke* comment about voting dubz to tie and kill two people, KJQ hadn't switched from Samac to Dubz yet. Those were posted a mere refresh apart even if it doesn't look like it in the thread.

The "3 villagers killed" comment was a worst case scenario, that I throw away my vote, WildZoo and Fruit tie, both flip village, and a third villager is killed tonight. That would be detrimental to town winning this game.

As for Fruit vs WildZoo, tbh I flipped a coin. Both of them were not sus to me in any way, but for the good of the town, throwing away my vote and guaranteeing two people got killed felt bad.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to sulk in the corner and eat my tin cans in peace

i don't know what this gif is but if i had to see it so do you

 

[KayJayQueue]

No just Mads. The Dubz case is nonsense

Why did mads vote fruit then and not Dubz if both are town? If I were scum and could vote between 2 competing town wagons and whomever I vote is absolutely the lim…I’d see that there’s clearly a lot of sus on fruit, a newer player that has no connections in the game vs Dubz who had more meta than everyone else in the players and has more friends to support her. I’d absolutely be voting Dubz every time in that scenario. So mads voting fruit makes zero sense to me. At all.

 

[Zenge142]

Why did mads vote fruit then and not Dubz if both are town? If I were scum and could vote between 2 competing town wagons and whomever I vote is absolutely the lim…I’d see that there’s clearly a lot of sus on fruit, a newer player that has no connections in the game vs Dubz who had more meta than everyone else in the players and has more friends to support her. I’d absolutely be voting Dubz every time in that scenario. So mads voting fruit makes zero sense to me. At all.

 

[Lissarae06]

Whew it takes forever to catch up when you have to go several hours without access. I feel like day 1 is always a crap shoot because we usually don’t have much to go off of except what we read in each other’s posts. I need to go back and reread what happened there as the day ended because that seemed to have all happened really fast.