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Someone needed to say it. I was going to if no one had
 
Friends, I need some advice.

A couple days ago I pulled up to my new apartment and two loose pit bulls approached my vehicle. They did not get too close and backed off when I got out. They seemed interested in me but wanted to keep their distance. I couldn't figure out which house they belonged to and they ran off, so I figured I would keep an eye out.

Yesterday, one of them was loose again but alone, this time running around on my side of the street. She noticed me and was wagging her tail but barking and keeping her distance. I crouched down and talked to her a bit, but also kept my distance because I do not know this dog. She kept barking, so I decided to turn around and get some stuff out of my car. That's when I heard her running up behind me. I spun around and made eye contact and she stopped. At that point she was wagging her tail still, but growling with her ears back and her shoulders tense. She made one more run at me where I got low and big and shouted at her, and she stopped. One of my neighbors from up the street heard the commotion and distracted her and convinced her to move up the street. A quick convo with my newly introduced neighbor told me the owner is right across the street and the dogs being loose is becoming more and more frequent. I called my spouse to warn them as they were on their way home when a woman who clearly knew the dog was able to grab it by the collar and walk it home, warning the owner that the dog was going to get hit if he kept letting her run in the street.

I'm pretty proud of the fact that I know how to handle difficult animals in a vet setting, but I've never been scared of an animal in public until that moment. I genuinely thought I was going to have to defend myself against that dog. I'm worried she's going to get hit or hurt somebody, as there are a lot of kids in my neighborhood who ride bikes or scooters alone. I have no idea what this person's situation is or why the dogs are getting loose.

Other than call ACO, any advice?
 
_rae_ said:
Other than call ACO, any advice?
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Definitely do the first, and I’d definitely consider carrying some sort of protection (to whatever degree you’re personally comfortable with) especially if you’re going to be outside alone.
 
_rae_ said:
Friends, I need some advice.

A couple days ago I pulled up to my new apartment and two loose pit bulls approached my vehicle. They did not get too close and backed off when I got out. They seemed interested in me but wanted to keep their distance. I couldn't figure out which house they belonged to and they ran off, so I figured I would keep an eye out.

Yesterday, one of them was loose again but alone, this time running around on my side of the street. She noticed me and was wagging her tail but barking and keeping her distance. I crouched down and talked to her a bit, but also kept my distance because I do not know this dog. She kept barking, so I decided to turn around and get some stuff out of my car. That's when I heard her running up behind me. I spun around and made eye contact and she stopped. At that point she was wagging her tail still, but growling with her ears back and her shoulders tense. She made one more run at me where I got low and big and shouted at her, and she stopped. One of my neighbors from up the street heard the commotion and distracted her and convinced her to move up the street. A quick convo with my newly introduced neighbor told me the owner is right across the street and the dogs being loose is becoming more and more frequent. I called my spouse to warn them as they were on their way home when a woman who clearly knew the dog was able to grab it by the collar and walk it home, warning the owner that the dog was going to get hit if he kept letting her run in the street.

I'm pretty proud of the fact that I know how to handle difficult animals in a vet setting, but I've never been scared of an animal in public until that moment. I genuinely thought I was going to have to defend myself against that dog. I'm worried she's going to get hit or hurt somebody, as there are a lot of kids in my neighborhood who ride bikes or scooters alone. I have no idea what this person's situation is or why the dogs are getting loose.

Other than call ACO, any advice?
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I don't mess around with that stuff. Call an ACO. Consider calling your non-emergency police line, too. The fact that they are loose all the time and approaching with potentially aggressive intent is not acceptable
 
JaynaAli said:
Definitely do the first, and I’d definitely consider carrying some sort of protection (to whatever degree you’re personally comfortable with) especially if you’re going to be outside alone.
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Do you think something like pet corrector would work? I’d hate to use something like pepper spray but obviously don’t want to get mauled.

pp9 said:
I don't mess around with that stuff. Call an ACO. Consider calling your non-emergency police line, too. The fact that they are loose all the time and approaching with potentially aggressive intent is not acceptable
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My only hesitation is based on this person’s name, they are not white. With the current climate, I’m trying to balance mine and my neighbor’s safety. I recognize that I’m probably being overly understanding, but I don’t want to escalate to law enforcement if there are any other avenues I can try first. I recognize there might not be.
 
_rae_ said:
Do you think something like pet corrector would work? I’d hate to use something like pepper spray but obviously don’t want to get mauled.


My only hesitation is based on this person’s name, they are not white. With the current climate, I’m trying to balance mine and my neighbor’s safety. I recognize that I’m probably being overly understanding, but I don’t want to escalate to law enforcement if there are any other avenues I can try first. I recognize there might not be.
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In reference to the first, I think that’s up for you to decide. I don’t think a can of air will do a lot should the dog actually decide to attack, but if that’s all you’re comfortable with wielding, then it might be better than being empty handed. I’d personally choose something with more deterrent power, but in general, my opinion on self defense is only carry what you’re comfortable actually using and that’s going to be up to you.

In regards to the second, I do understand your position, but on the flip side, it will be even worse for this person if the dog does do something. It’s not hard to keep a dog inside.
 
_rae_ said:
Do you think something like pet corrector would work? I’d hate to use something like pepper spray but obviously don’t want to get mauled.


My only hesitation is based on this person’s name, they are not white. With the current climate, I’m trying to balance mine and my neighbor’s safety. I recognize that I’m probably being overly understanding, but I don’t want to escalate to law enforcement if there are any other avenues I can try first. I recognize there might not be.
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If a dog is loose and approaching people in a sketchy way, and it's after hours, you're unlikely to get an ACO. I hear your concern but there is also a way to prevent the interaction entirely - the owner not sitting back while these dogs continue to get loose. I don't intend to victim blame by saying that, but it's not like you'd be calling authorities for no reason. There is a potentially aggressive dog approaching people.

_rae_ said:
Do you think something like pet corrector would work? I’d hate to use something like pepper spray but obviously don’t want to get mauled
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It could, it could not. I'll be honest, there are times when nothing works for dumb trash pitty-types that have 0.01 brain cell at best. Sometimes the only things that stop those dogs are fatal GSWs. I've had ACOs/cops bring me aggressive dogs for euthanasia after hours (so shelter vets were not available) that were stabbed multiple times, had non-fatal GSWs, were beaten with objects, etc and those dogs did not let go until their target was chewed to bits. That's why I don't mess around with that - it's horrible enough when they get a hold of another dog or cat, but it could easily be a child.

My in-laws have a frequently loose pittie on their street. No one would call it in for whatever reason and it did end up absolutely obliterating a neighbor's dog.
 
Thanks folks. I think I felt guilty because we just came to this neighborhood and while it was a scary experience, I didn’t want to be someone who was overreacting. Looks like pepper spray is legal in MN so I’ll consider that.
pp9 said:
It could, it could not. I'll be honest, there are times when nothing works for dumb trash pitty-types that have 0.01 brain cell at best. Sometimes the only things that stop those dogs are fatal GSWs. I've had ACOs/cops bring me aggressive dogs for euthanasia after hours (so shelter vets were not available) that were stabbed multiple times, had non-fatal GSWs, were beaten with objects, etc and those dogs did not let go until their target was chewed to bits. That's why I don't mess around with that - it's horrible enough when they get a hold of another dog or cat, but it could easily be a child.
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Yeah, I’ve seen it too. We had a police officer bring a deceased pit bull in for necropsy and to retrieve bullets as evidence. The dog had trapped two people on top of a car and would not give up. He had to shoot the dog because it got one person’s head in its mouth and wouldn’t let go. I knew I wasn’t going to be strong enough to fend that dog off if I needed to, so I’m really glad my neighbor was nearby.
 
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_rae_ said:
Thanks folks. I think I felt guilty because we just came to this neighborhood and while it was a scary experience, I didn’t want to be someone who was overreacting. Looks like pepper spray is legal in MN so I’ll consider that.

Yeah, I’ve seen it too. We had a police officer bring a deceased pit bull in for necropsy and to retrieve bullets as evidence. The dog had trapped two people on top of a car and would not give up. He had to shoot the dog because it got one person’s head in its mouth and wouldn’t let go. I knew I wasn’t going to be strong enough to fend that dog off if I needed to, so I’m really glad my neighbor was nearby.
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Just replying to say I’m sorry, Rae, this is all scary. But you’re definitely doing the right thing. I remember having to deescalate a situation back in my old town with a loose German shepherd that had cornered someone. It’s never easy and hugs.
 
I have a zero tolerance policy for loose dogs. I would be calling animal control and/or police as much as necessary to either get the point across or the animals removed. It is dangerous for dogs to be loose so if someone can't keep them contained, then the dog needs a new home that can keep it safe. I also have this policy because of all the stories of dogs mauling people or killing them, I am tired of hearing of yet another person dying because of a loose, aggressive dog. What makes it worse is that in the majority of these cases the dogs have been reported to authorities numerous times and nothing is done.

I have an absolute zero tolerance policy for aggressive dogs and will unalive one if needed to save another animal or human. I have become fairly adamant about society being way too lenient for dealing with dogs that have behavioral issues. Way too many kind, friendly dogs sitting in shelters to deal with aggressive ones. I don't believe in second chances for aggressive dogs, because a second chance could mean the death of an innocent child, person or pet.

So, if it were me, I would be calling animal control as much as needed to get the point across and if the dog started coming after me or someone else aggressively-- I would use whatever weapon necessary to keep myself, family, friends, neighbors, other pets, etc safe.
 
It's nice of you to be thinking of the owners and trying not to make waves with new neighbors. I agree with above replies to call it in, and will also add that a fine and/or discussion with animal control is going to be much better for the owners than having to put their dog down if/when there's an incident.
 
_rae_ said:
Friends, I need some advice.

A couple days ago I pulled up to my new apartment and two loose pit bulls approached my vehicle. They did not get too close and backed off when I got out. They seemed interested in me but wanted to keep their distance. I couldn't figure out which house they belonged to and they ran off, so I figured I would keep an eye out.

Yesterday, one of them was loose again but alone, this time running around on my side of the street. She noticed me and was wagging her tail but barking and keeping her distance. I crouched down and talked to her a bit, but also kept my distance because I do not know this dog. She kept barking, so I decided to turn around and get some stuff out of my car. That's when I heard her running up behind me. I spun around and made eye contact and she stopped. At that point she was wagging her tail still, but growling with her ears back and her shoulders tense. She made one more run at me where I got low and big and shouted at her, and she stopped. One of my neighbors from up the street heard the commotion and distracted her and convinced her to move up the street. A quick convo with my newly introduced neighbor told me the owner is right across the street and the dogs being loose is becoming more and more frequent. I called my spouse to warn them as they were on their way home when a woman who clearly knew the dog was able to grab it by the collar and walk it home, warning the owner that the dog was going to get hit if he kept letting her run in the street.

I'm pretty proud of the fact that I know how to handle difficult animals in a vet setting, but I've never been scared of an animal in public until that moment. I genuinely thought I was going to have to defend myself against that dog. I'm worried she's going to get hit or hurt somebody, as there are a lot of kids in my neighborhood who ride bikes or scooters alone. I have no idea what this person's situation is or why the dogs are getting loose.

Other than call ACO, any advice?
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My third (?) day of vet school orientation I was severely attacked by a loose husky. If I wasn’t walking my large breed dog who without hesitation protected me, I’m sure it would’ve been worse than one deep bite. The dog also was NOT utd on rabies… Call animal control. This is not only dangerous for the dogs, but the humans and other animals in the area. This is a public safety issue. I now carry mace at all times. They are looking at most an at large dog +/- rabies noncompliance fines. First offenses do not usually result in fines in my experience. Many counties will also help the people get up to date on medical care (rabies, s/n) and secure their fences.
 
Nothing sets off a zoo-wide kerfluffle like a stray domestic animal does.

We are in the process of live-trapping a momma cat and her kittens (they will go to a shelter). We got the mom right away, the kittens (6-8w old) were not caught and have not been seen for days. The entire zoo was adamant we killed the litter by taking the mom and that we did this horrible, monstrous thing, despite me saying that I could all but guarantee the kittens were alive, but had moved. Literal drama. For days. People threatening that they'd never report a stray animal/wildlife sighting ever again. Some people threatening to quit over this.

Well, guess what someone just found under a nearby dumpster? KITTENS. Because kittens love dumpsters and love to be in trash. And now everyone is straight panicking about the idea of using Havaharts on kittens, when thousands of kittens have been trapped that way. So now we are trying to desense kittens to these traps animal welfare-style, even though in another week or two they will be old enough to fully disperse and spread their toxo to our macropods and lemurs (the two most sensitive species we have here).

Ugh. It's just exhausting. I am all for good welfare, but animal welfare in zoos (particularly this one) has become such a roadblock to so many things. Sometimes we need to do something that's a little uncomfortable to achieve a good outcome. Don't even get me started on the backbends we have to do to get anything done for animals we're actually responsible for. Human resilience is extremely valuable, but also seems to be an easily lost skill/trait. And it probably directly correlates with the increasing burnout amongst professional animal caretakers that is being seen lately.
 
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Sometimes we need to do something that's a little uncomfortable to achieve a good outcome. Don't even get me started on the backbends we have to do to get anything done for animals we're actually responsible for.
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Are none of these people parents? I can tell you my toddler thinks our time outs are straight uncomfortable, but we get some good outcomes when he stops messing with the dog.
 
Anyone else get awful poison ivy?? I’ve resorted to putting concentrated carolina reaper hot sauce on a bandage because the sensation of my leg in blazing flames is better than the itching
 
battie said:
Are none of these people parents? I can tell you my toddler thinks our time outs are straight uncomfortable, but we get some good outcomes when he stops messing with the dog.
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This is actually an amazing thing to point out. It does seem that the parents are the ones more likely to take things in stride.

Also, since I posted that, someone rushed at a kitten and hand-caught it and is now in the ER for multiple bite wounds. Why are people losing their minds over this?!
 
Hill’s has made the genius decision that as part of their new formulation for z/d, one of the new ingredients is crushed pecan shells. Why is this bad? Because it’s a new formulation and not a new product, Chewy autoshipped it to my cousin in place of the old food. My cousin, whose girlfriend is allergic to nuts, the most severe of which is cashews and pecans. Does it have an allergen warning? No, it’s not for human consumption why would it? Did hill’s mention it anywhere? No, because why would they I guess? The only reason they knew was because my cousin was smart enough to go “hmmm this can looks different” and read the ingredients.

Wtf Hill’s. You’re the only company with a wet hydrolyzed diet that also has the S+OX. Putting a common human allergen in with no warning or heads up is whacko behavior.
 
That is so scary, @_rae_! I am anaphylactic to sunflower seeds and I can't breathe in particles of birdseed containing it.

I am sorry that happened to your cousin. This is such an oversight that there are no allergy labeling regulations for that. There really needs to be labeling laws because of how sensitive some allergies are and the need for humans need to deliver the food directly to the pet.
 
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Hill’s has made the genius decision that as part of their new formulation for z/d, one of the new ingredients is crushed pecan shells. Why is this bad? Because it’s a new formulation and not a new product, Chewy autoshipped it to my cousin in place of the old food. My cousin, whose girlfriend is allergic to nuts, the most severe of which is cashews and pecans. Does it have an allergen warning? No, it’s not for human consumption why would it? Did hill’s mention it anywhere? No, because why would they I guess? The only reason they knew was because my cousin was smart enough to go “hmmm this can looks different” and read the ingredients.

Wtf Hill’s. You’re the only company with a wet hydrolyzed diet that also has the S+OX. Putting a common human allergen in with no warning or heads up is whacko behavior.
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This is insane and an absolute lawsuit waiting to happen. That’s a very common human airborne allergy! I can’t believe they’d assume it doesn’t need at least a widely distributed PSA that the formula changed
 
_rae_ said:
Hill’s has made the genius decision that as part of their new formulation for z/d, one of the new ingredients is crushed pecan shells. Why is this bad? Because it’s a new formulation and not a new product, Chewy autoshipped it to my cousin in place of the old food. My cousin, whose girlfriend is allergic to nuts, the most severe of which is cashews and pecans. Does it have an allergen warning? No, it’s not for human consumption why would it? Did hill’s mention it anywhere? No, because why would they I guess? The only reason they knew was because my cousin was smart enough to go “hmmm this can looks different” and read the ingredients.

Wtf Hill’s. You’re the only company with a wet hydrolyzed diet that also has the S+OX. Putting a common human allergen in with no warning or heads up is whacko behavior.
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This is absolutely bananas.

BANANAS I SAY!

I’m so happy they caught it and she’s okay!!!
 
_rae_ said:
Hill’s has made the genius decision that as part of their new formulation for z/d, one of the new ingredients is crushed pecan shells. Why is this bad? Because it’s a new formulation and not a new product, Chewy autoshipped it to my cousin in place of the old food. My cousin, whose girlfriend is allergic to nuts, the most severe of which is cashews and pecans. Does it have an allergen warning? No, it’s not for human consumption why would it? Did hill’s mention it anywhere? No, because why would they I guess? The only reason they knew was because my cousin was smart enough to go “hmmm this can looks different” and read the ingredients.

Wtf Hill’s. You’re the only company with a wet hydrolyzed diet that also has the S+OX. Putting a common human allergen in with no warning or heads up is whacko behavior.
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I can bring this up to our HQ representative team!

Edit: shared it with Minnesota’s hills team and they will be reaching out to our advisor
 
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I can bring this up to our HQ representative team!

Edit: shared it with Minnesota’s hills team and they will be reaching out to our advisor
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Thank you! I sent them a message on their website too. I sincerely hope they fix this asap, it’s hugely dangerous. One of my old coworkers is also allergic to nuts and she had no idea either, even though Hill’s was just at my old hospital for a lunch and learn specifically for this change.
 
_rae_ said:
Hill’s has made the genius decision that as part of their new formulation for z/d, one of the new ingredients is crushed pecan shells. Why is this bad? Because it’s a new formulation and not a new product, Chewy autoshipped it to my cousin in place of the old food. My cousin, whose girlfriend is allergic to nuts, the most severe of which is cashews and pecans. Does it have an allergen warning? No, it’s not for human consumption why would it? Did hill’s mention it anywhere? No, because why would they I guess? The only reason they knew was because my cousin was smart enough to go “hmmm this can looks different” and read the ingredients.

Wtf Hill’s. You’re the only company with a wet hydrolyzed diet that also has the S+OX. Putting a common human allergen in with no warning or heads up is whacko behavior.
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wait this would take me out, I also have a severe tree nut allergy. I’m so glad you shared this info.
 
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Also, it looks like it's both the wet AND the dry which is worse because the dry can become aerosolized so much easier.
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yeah i’m def most concerned about the dry and risk from aerosolized nuts. i’m going to have to give my clinics a heads up about this 😕

i could go on a huge rant about having nut allergies and how annoying they are to exist with, but i’ll spare yall. it’s just frustrating.
 
SkiOtter said:
FYI Hill’s GI Biome also has the ground pecan shells in it (though it always has vs a surprise reformulation). It’s the fiber added to that diet to help with diarrhea etc.
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A lot of the reformulated diets have pecan shells. So please just keep an eye out. We are working with it internally.
 
_rae_ said:
Hill’s has made the genius decision that as part of their new formulation for z/d, one of the new ingredients is crushed pecan shells. Why is this bad? Because it’s a new formulation and not a new product, Chewy autoshipped it to my cousin in place of the old food. My cousin, whose girlfriend is allergic to nuts, the most severe of which is cashews and pecans. Does it have an allergen warning? No, it’s not for human consumption why would it? Did hill’s mention it anywhere? No, because why would they I guess? The only reason they knew was because my cousin was smart enough to go “hmmm this can looks different” and read the ingredients.

Wtf Hill’s. You’re the only company with a wet hydrolyzed diet that also has the S+OX. Putting a common human allergen in with no warning or heads up is whacko behavior.
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I've thought about this often - not the pecan shells specifically, but any other allergens that could be in pet food (egg, peas, fish oil/fish products, coconutoil etc). My cousin has a toddler with a severe egg allergy who was having repeat reactions despite de-egging the house (or so they thought). The dog's food was not something her or her toddler's doctors ever thought to take a look at. I suggested she read the label and there was in fact egg in the ingredients - she switched, no reactions at home since. Of course the dog and toddler are besties so there was a lot of exposure, we are really lucky that it didn't end badly
 
Yep, my friend has celiac disease and for people with severe disease, even the amount of gluten in dog food can be difficult, whether that’s because of airborne particles or even contact from the dog licking you. And you need to avoid more than just wheat…barley and oats are common in dog foods now and often contaminated by wheat. Luckily my friend can pour out kibble without an issue as long as she immediately washes her hands and stuff, but it’s something I’d never thought about before meeting her.
 
So the response I got from Hill’s was essentially that because it’s just the shells and they’re heat processed, they should not carry any allergen. However, these shells come from a pecan cracking plant, so I feel like cross contamination is still possible. Either way, I still think that people who are actually allergic to nuts should be informed and make that decision for themselves. It’s like the whole nut oil thing; while technically most people with peanut allergies can have things containing or fried in peanut oil because the refining process removes the protein, I know people with allergies severe enough they opt not to just to be safe.
 
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So the response I got from Hill’s was essentially that because it’s just the shells and they’re heat processed, they should not carry any allergen. However, these shells come from a pecan cracking plant, so I feel like cross contamination is still possible. Either way, I still think that people who are actually allergic to nuts should be informed and make that decision for themselves. It’s like the whole nut oil thing; while technically most people with peanut allergies can have things containing or fried in peanut oil because the refining process removes the protein, I know people with allergies severe enough they opt not to just to be safe.
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Every single person I know with a peanut allergy cannot have peanut oil. But severe allergies run in my family so idk if it’s an “us” thing. I feel like that response to you is such a cop out. And it will hold up in court if they say “only very severe allergies would have a reaction” or something to that extent. So unsafe regardless.
 
PrincessButterCup said:
I just turned down the job offer I talked about in here earlier. There was a pretty slim chance I'd be able to get into a rental where I could have my dog with me, and I would have had to commit to the job before knowing for sure about housing. I talked to my old boss before I did it, and she thought it was a great offer and should totally work out and asked me what more I'm looking for. Oh not much, just a salary that's high enough to afford pet friendly housing . . . I honestly think that since she never had to live on a postdoc salary that she has no frame of reference for what's possible on one. That's the only explanation I can think of for some of her advice. Oh well, now to send off a new round of job applications!
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This isn't a rant but it's an update on my rant so I'll still post it here.

This job reached out again today to say that they really want me and they offered a few solutions to help me be able to accept the job, with one being letting me move to a different city and work out of a collaborating lab. Housing is way more affordable and available there, and it's a lot closer to home (still international) and would be an easier move. I need to set up a call with them first, but I think I'll be able to take it if they're serious about letting me work out of the other lab!
 
PrincessButterCup said:
This isn't a rant but it's an update on my rant so I'll still post it here.

This job reached out again today to say that they really want me and they offered a few solutions to help me be able to accept the job, with one being letting me move to a different city and work out of a collaborating lab. Housing is way more affordable and available there, and it's a lot closer to home (still international) and would be an easier move. I need to set up a call with them first, but I think I'll be able to take it if they're serious about letting me work out of the other lab!
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That’s a great rant update! Fingers crossed it works out like it’s supposed to!
 
Ugh, I feel conflicted. I need to make more money. Last fall, I got forced into a lower paying position at the same site because I got injured and could no longer do the lifting required of my higher paying position. I realistically can't come back to the higher paying position. I just had one surgery 6 weeks ago and realistically am going to need a second one within the next year. I need to make more money because I have a lot of debt relative to my income and very little savings. There are some higher paying positions available in my area that I could physically do and I am thinking about applying. It doesn't pay as well as my physical one did, but it pays better than my current one.

Something about it just makes me feel dirty though. My work friends really wanted me to stay and I really want to stay to be with them. I know my old district won't be able to replace me for awhile and they are already short-staffed due to budget cuts.
 
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Something about it just makes me feel dirty though. My work friends really wanted me to stay and I really want to stay to be with them. I know my old district won't be able to replace me for awhile and they are already short-staffed due to budget cuts.
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You need to do what’s best for YOU. It’s unfortunate that they may not be able to replace you easily, but if you need to leave to take a higher paying position, you need to. Have you asked about a raise that would put you closer to the higher paying jobs? If they say no, you may need to look elsewhere as much as it’ll suck leaving your work friends. Hugs🩷
 
SkiOtter said:
You need to do what’s best for YOU. It’s unfortunate that they may not be able to replace you easily, but if you need to leave to take a higher paying position, you need to. Have you asked about a raise that would put you closer to the higher paying jobs? If they say no, you may need to look elsewhere as much as it’ll suck leaving your work friends. Hugs🩷
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Thank you for saying that and for the moral support. <3

Regarding the bolded, I am generally really glad that we are union, but this is the issue with being union. We have to have the pay schedule that the union negotiates for us and cannot negotiate any raises outside of that. The first month or so, I was getting the increased pay as an ADA thing because I was forced into the lower paying position due to an injury that occurred at work, but they put a stop to that for some reason. I am afraid to bring it up because the district is having financial problems and getting rid of people right and left.

ETA: I at least applied to the better paying jobs in another district. We will see if anything comes of it. *shrug*
 
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I want to complain about the air quality in Minnesota. It's felt like every single nice day where I could ride my bike to work or go out on a hike with my spouse has been marred by an AQI about 150. But I also know that the primary reason for the pollution is Canada is still on fire.

I would like the world to not be one fire. I would also like to ride my bike.
 
Anyone else feel like vet med recruiters are getting to be a particular type of aggressive? It's borderline harassment at times, especially if I've already said that I'm not looking for anything FT or PT and that's what they're recruiting for. Leave me and my email/LinkedIn/phone number/social media alone pls.

Also how has Evette not completely folded after that giant fiasco last year?
 
pp9 said:
Anyone else feel like vet med recruiters are getting to be a particular type of aggressive? It's borderline harassment at times, especially if I've already said that I'm not looking for anything FT or PT and that's what they're recruiting for. Leave me and my email/LinkedIn/phone number/social media alone pls.

Also how has Evette not completely folded after that giant fiasco last year?
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they're really freaking annoying

my fave was one pinging me on REDDIT because I answered a vet question for someone. jfc back off.
 
I have a new recruiter every week at a minimum. Most have been fine with touching base in October. But one I ended up ghosting because no wasn't in their vocabulary
 
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