Goljan as primary path source second year

[FrogE7]

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Did any one use goljan's rapid review book and audio as their primary path source during their second year and do well (>235) on boards?

 

[Pinkertinkle]

I did, and pathology was my second best section on step 1. I did also supplement it with the University of Utah's website, and with the robbins Q book.

 

[albertoss]

Did any one use goljan's rapid review book and audio as their primary path source during their second year and do well (>235) on boards?

I used only Goljan + BRS, damn near failed my path class at school, but kicked a$$ on the boards.

 

[crys20]

is goljan rapid review path better than BRS path a general consensus or are people split on it

 

[UCLAstudent]

is goljan rapid review path better than BRS path a general consensus or are people split on it

There's been a lot of discussion on this --- you'd find a lot with a search. I'm probably one of the few SDN-ers who used BRS Path exclusively and it wasn't a problem.

 

[Terpskins99]

is goljan rapid review path better than BRS path a general consensus or are people split on it

If you use Rapid Review Pathology as your sole path source, you are 100% absolutely positively guaranteed to F-A-I-L the USMLE. In fact, you might as well not take the exam. I am not kidding. Using Rapid Review Pathology is professional suicide when it comes to the boards.

Now, you can take the easy route and just take my advice, or you could undergo an unbelievably taxing and arduous effort in spending up to 1 full minute surfing the forum for your answer.

 

[FrogE7]

If you use Rapid Review Pathology as your sole path source, you are 100% absolutely positively guaranteed to F-A-I-L the USMLE. In fact, you might as well not take the exam. I am not kidding. Using Rapid Review Pathology is professional suicide when it comes to the boards.

Now, you can take the easy route and just take my advice, or you could undergo an unbelievably taxing and arduous effort in spending up to 1 full minute surfing the forum for your answer.

Okay dude, you don't have to be a jack a$$. I've been on this forum long enough to know that Goljan is great for boards, etc etc.

However using it DURING the year without say reading Robbins (It's taking me way too long) or going to class (I'm not much of a class person), is something I'm not used to reading about. I am a scared second year and am just trying to figure out what will work well this year and also help me out in the future for boards.

 

[TheEleventhReel]

After RR Path came out in November of last year, I used it almost exclusively for my path class and did very well. I would recommend using it in conjunction w/his audio. The only thing I felt that RR Path was lacking was the histological descriptions of tumors (mainly buzzwords, like pseudopallisading, fried egg appearance, etc.). I just copied those out of BRS into RR. Beyond that, Goljan was all I needed to do well.

I haven't taken Step 1 yet, but I took NBME 2 and thought that I should've been able to answer about 30% of the questions b/c of Goljan. Oddly enough, the majority of questions I knew by reading/listening to Goljan were pharm questions, not path.

So, yes, he was more than enough for my path classes. As to Step 1, I guess we'll see in a couple of weeks

 

[Pinkertinkle]

If you use Rapid Review Pathology as your sole path source, you are 100% absolutely positively guaranteed to F-A-I-L the USMLE. In fact, you might as well not take the exam. I am not kidding. Using Rapid Review Pathology is professional suicide when it comes to the boards.

Now, you can take the easy route and just take my advice, or you could undergo an unbelievably taxing and arduous effort in spending up to 1 full minute surfing the forum for your answer.

Why don't you stfu and gtfo if you're not going to be helpful.

 

[blz]

Doing only FA/Goljan would not have been sufficient at my school. The combo was great for the boards though.

I alternated between BRS path and Goljan during the school year along with the classnotes. Of course, I only had time to skim them at best because I had to concentrate on class notes. I don't even own robbins.

 

[Sage880]

I used BRS path and goljian audio lectures for path and my path mark was my best course in med school.

I had Robins as a bible to look up anything rare that wasn't covered in BRS. None of it was high-yield or ever really tested but I get curious.

 

[JayneCobb]

If you use Rapid Review Pathology as your sole path source, you are 100% absolutely positively guaranteed to F-A-I-L the USMLE. In fact, you might as well not take the exam. I am not kidding. Using Rapid Review Pathology is professional suicide when it comes to the boards.

Now, you can take the easy route and just take my advice, or you could undergo an unbelievably taxing and arduous effort in spending up to 1 full minute surfing the forum for your answer.

Why don't you stfu and gtfo if you're not going to be helpful.

Everybody needs to keep a professional tone in this forum. It is uncalled for to be condescending and there is no reason to turn these threads into pissing contests.

Thanks,

Jayne.

 

[N-Surge]

Did any one use goljan's rapid review book and audio as their primary path source during their second year and do well (>235) on boards?

For second year I could see how this would have been just fine. In retrospect, it is probably what I would have done, plus my class notes. But for some reason I like to read tons of different sources (bad for focusing, so I stuck to Goljan come Step 1 studying...). In my program, the class notes were key. You should ask some M3s at your school if this was the case for them. If so, then stick to the class notes, Goljan, and Review of Pathology for some self motivational pimp sessions. If you need to look at some pictures then maybe use WebPath. To recap,

1. Class Notes <- Check on this!
2. RR Pathology
3. Review of Pathology
4. WebPath

If you have the Path Shelf, like at my school, the HY notes in Pathology PreTest and the Rapid Review at the back of FIRST AID are pretty good, imo, for that eleventh hour crunch (or whatever the phrase is, lol).

Good luck!

 

[cdql]

For second year I could see how this would have been just fine. In retrospect, it is probably what I would have done, plus my class notes. But for some reason I like to read tons of different sources (bad for focusing, so I stuck to Goljan come Step 1 studying...). In my program, the class notes were key. You should ask some M3s at your school if this was the case for them. If so, then stick to the class notes, Goljan, and Review of Pathology for some self motivational pimp sessions. If you need to look at some pictures then maybe use WebPath. To recap,

1. Class Notes <- Check on this!
2. RR Pathology
3. Review of Pathology
4. WebPath

If you have the Path Shelf, like at my school, the HY notes in Pathology PreTest and the Rapid Review at the back of FIRST AID are pretty good, imo, for that eleventh hour crunch (or whatever the phrase is, lol).

Good luck!

I second this advice.

I'd recommend

1) Class notes/syllabus (this will always be the best source)
2) BRS Path / RR Path (I didn't have RR Path but I would whip out the BRS Path with about two weeks to go just to look over items and see if I covered them all)
3) FA (Again, another item to look at with two weeks to go before class exams just to get a different take on the subject)
4) Path Textbook (for images...I'm not a big fan of using textbooks)
5) I used something else here but I forgot...probably not too important anyway

 

[golfpropsychguy]

I listened to it like 2 times and read rapid review twice when I took step 1 last year. Honestly, If you want to do well read Brs a few times and know it well and use FA for everything else especially pharm(not kidding). And then finish up doing all of qbank and redo the ones you got wrong.

I know how it is with the Goljan audio. you listen to it and he sounds great and hes really convincing when he tells you he knows all the questions on the test, yada, yada, yada. But I didnt see any of the stuff he mentioned and i thanked God when I left the exam that i didnt rely on him and Rapid Review.

good luck

 

[TheEleventhReel]

I listened to it like 2 times and read rapid review twice when I took step 1 last year. Honestly, If you want to do well read Brs a few times and know it well and use FA for everything else especially pharm(not kidding). And then finish up doing all of qbank and redo the ones you got wrong.

I know how it is with the Goljan audio. you listen to it and he sounds great and hes really convincing when he tells you he knows all the questions on the test, yada, yada, yada. But I didnt see any of the stuff he mentioned and i thanked God when I left the exam that i didnt rely on him and Rapid Review.

good luck

Did you take the test before the 2nd edition of RR Path came out? If so, that may be why. Not speaking from personal experience, but many people who have taken the test say that RR Path (2nd edition) was great. Honestly, I can't see them asking many path questions that aren't in that book.

 

[JayneCobb]

I know how it is with the Goljan audio. you listen to it and he sounds great and hes really convincing when he tells you he knows all the questions on the test, yada, yada, yada.

That's what you get for using outdated and pirated material. Since Goljan's RR was pretty much identical to the notes he gives out, that's all I used on Step 1 and pathology was my best section on Step I USMLE & COMLEX. YMMV & FWIW & this post is worth the amount you paid for it.

It's all anecdotal.

 

[golfpropsychguy]

Did you take the test before the 2nd edition of RR Path came out? If so, that may be why. Not speaking from personal experience, but many people who have taken the test say that RR Path (2nd edition) was great. Honestly, I can't see them asking many path questions that aren't in that book.

I cant say off the top of my head and I dont want to give any wrong info. I used the rr that went with the audio.

it is is a good book but it is written in a way that it is specific for certain things.

 

[blz]

I listened to it like 2 times and read rapid review twice when I took step 1 last year. Honestly, If you want to do well read Brs a few times and know it well and use FA for everything else especially pharm(not kidding). And then finish up doing all of qbank and redo the ones you got wrong.

I know how it is with the Goljan audio. you listen to it and he sounds great and hes really convincing when he tells you he knows all the questions on the test, yada, yada, yada. But I didnt see any of the stuff he mentioned and i thanked God when I left the exam that i didnt rely on him and Rapid Review.

good luck

The 2nd edition path book I used had nothing to do with the Audio and I feel it was my best resource while preparing for the boards. The audio, on the other hand, wasn't necessary at all.

 

[Long Dong]

There's been a lot of discussion on this --- you'd find a lot with a search. I'm probably one of the few SDN-ers who used BRS Path exclusively and it wasn't a problem.

Your just supper smart and would of done well no matter what you used. Us mear mortals have to have it dumbed down to us by goljan so we can understand it.😉

 

[Pinkertinkle]

I cant say off the top of my head and I dont want to give any wrong info. I used the rr that went with the audio.

it is is a good book but it is written in a way that it is specific for certain things.

You probably haven't ever read the new Rapid Review.

 

[sga814]

GOLJAN IS GOD

ALL HAIL!!!

 

[mm3781]

I only have experience from my school, but I used the big Robbins, Robbins Qbook, and Robbins atlas and that alone would not have been enough for my exams because we had some hardcore pathologists and you really needed to go to lecture to determine what would be on the exams. For instance we had to know some fluorescent staining patterns of renal path that aren't well covered in Robbins. Reading Robbins through the year made path on the boards one of my strongest points, which is very good.

 

[golfpropsychguy]

That's what you get for using outdated and pirated material. Since Goljan's RR was pretty much identical to the notes he gives out, that's all I used on Step 1 and pathology was my best section on Step I USMLE & COMLEX. YMMV & FWIW & this post is worth the amount you paid for it.

It's all anecdotal.

Who is this guy. Good luck buddy. you sound like a real winner...