Gross Anti-Islam Sentiment During AECOM Interview

[chespirido]

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Yes, what horrible people we are for believing religious and ethnic discrimination are wrong.

Shun the non-believer!
Shhhhuuuuun!
Shhhhhhhhhhuuuuuuuuuuuuuunnnnnnnnnn!

You are not understanding the difference between intolerance of a religion (what belichek has for Muslims), and the intolerance of ignorance (what the OP has for her interviewer).

Ignorance should be addressed and rectified. Not everyone knows the correct "PC" ways of addressing culturally diverse issues and sometimes harmless inquiries can sound like violent assaults on an individuals identity.

 

[VneZonyDostupa]

You are not understanding the difference between intolerance of a religion (what belichek has for Muslims), and the intolerance of ignorance (what the OP has for her interviewer).

Ignorance should be addressed and rectified. Not everyone knows the correct "PC" ways of addressing culturally diverse issues and sometimes harmless inquiries can sound like violent assaults on an individuals identity.

Hmm, well, I don't think the interviewer calling Muslim's hypocrites, telling the OP how silly Ramadan was, etc. qualifies as ignorance so much as it does discrimination.

But, this is all assuming there is no exaggeration on the OP's side, which is indeterminable.

Either way, I still think you're wrong and silly.

 

[chespirido]

You can think whatever you want, but I appreciate that at least you are entertaining the possibility that the letter was written in a fury and probably exaggerated.

Call it naive, but I cant imagine a non-discriminating democratic committee voting for a Leader in Diversity who they feel may be discriminatory towards diversity.

 

[Mubash'shirah]

Ignorance should be addressed and rectified. Not everyone knows the correct "PC" ways of addressing culturally diverse issues and sometimes harmless inquiries can sound like violent assaults on an individuals identity.

The 'Associate Dean of the Office of Diversity Enhancement' doesn't know how to address culturally diverse issues??

 

[MystA RavE]

The 'Associate Dean of the Office of Diversity Enhancement' doesn't know how to address culturally diverse issues??

Yes, according to the people here, this "ignorant" doctor, should take some advice from pre-meds

 

[ghostfoot]

I'm shocked at the number of people that clamored to this thread to tell the OP how well-written her letter was.

A bunch of sheep on this forum; basically declaring jihad on the English language.

I wouldn't judge Dr. [interviewer's name removed] without hearing his side.

 

[LandSpeed]

I'm shocked at the number of people that clamored to this thread to tell the OP how well-written her letter was.

A bunch of sheep on this forum; basically declaring jihad on the English language.

I wouldn't judge Dr. [interviewer's name removed] without hearing his side.

I agree 100%. People here have been too quick to support the OP without seeing all the evidence.

 

[paki20]

there obviously aren't many jews on SDN that can take my side. I believe that every jew out there is anti semitic towards muslims and the relationship is reciprical

i was just going to ignore your absurd comments but your repeated posts have forced me to respond because how many times are you going to INCORRECTLY use the term "anti semitic" to describe your ill-feeling towards muslims?!?! you're not using the term correctly..anti semitic is discrimination directed towards JEWS...you can't be an anti-semite towards MUSLIMS MAYBE arabs since they are Semitic but even that is considered improper use of the word...you're probably just a troll but your posts make you seem really uneducated...🙄

 

[LEdaddy]

I really hesitate to get into the fray here (and I think the OP shows admirable restraint by not responding to the last round of comments), but I truly hope belichek is a troll. The Dartmouth things seems fishy and what she is saying is too incendiary.

 

[169817]

am i the only one hoping that this was just a test to see if an applicant would stand up for him/herself mid-interview?

 

[hawk126]

am i the only one hoping that this was just a test to see if an applicant would stand up for him/herself mid-interview?

Nope... but it was a crass and inappropriate attempt at rattling the applicant and, without question, the interviewer was way out of line.

I admire the OP for standing up for herself by addressing the issue directly with the dean. My only problem with the way she handled things was the veiled accusation that the dean facilitates a culture of complicity and, by extension, institutional bigotry toward Muslims. Maybe she didn't communicate all of the surrounding circumstances (i.e., perhaps she experienced bigotry from other AECOM representatives while she was there), but such broad and sweeping accusations as "I doubt Dr. [interviewer's name removed] represents an isolated case" seem totally baseless. I also started to lose faith in the OP as an "honest broker" when I read that she and her father are trying to determine the best way to publicize her experience (later post by the OP) and when I see her posting this letter and a description of her experience in multiple threads on this forum.

The trouble with discussing something like this on an anonymous message board is that it's easy to completely misread people and impute motives that just aren't there. I'm probably completely wrong about the OP... she may just be really upset and totally "agenda-less". I'm just really skeptical of those who seek out attention by proclaiming "injustice". Standing reasonably against ignorance and expecting accountability from offending parties is one thing, cavalcading anonymously is something else.

 

[MDRus]

I agree 100%. People here have been too quick to support the OP without seeing all the evidence.

i have to admit, i am one of those. i don't know exactly where i am right now, after all this discussion, but my first reaction was totally emotional. i read her post soon after it went up and was so shocked and upset that my first instinct was to rush to the defense of the OP. her letter was well-written, though, in restropsect it was over the top.

i think it could have been more effective if it had been much shorter, had calmly addressed the facts of what happened, and left it at that. I also think she should have approached the dean before posting and only turned to SDN after she got, or didn't get, appropriate satisfaction from the school.

she probably was a bit too fast on the trigger, which i totally understand. with her obvious gift at writing -- and her eloquence -- if she had taken a breath, and waited a day or two, her words and actions could have been much more powerful.

that said, she did her best and i support her and wish her every success. i hope she updates us with more information as this unfolds.

 

[racerx]

Even talking about religion is considered inappropriate and too personal in such a professional setting.

I must disagree. Questioning and presenting bigoted assumptions are inappropriate and too personal. However, when I interview a student that is obviously muslim, I mention our school's strong, involved, MSA group here. I do so so that they don't feel like they'd be thrust into some homogenous whitebread school, without other people like themselves.

To another poster that said ALL muslims accept the existence of Judaism: All TRUE muslims do embrace/accept religious diversity. . .unfortunately, there are a few individuals that CALL themselves muslim and want to remove all other religions from this earth, either by conversion or sword. You know, the old cliche, "it takes one bad apple to spoil the whole barrel." This goes both ways, of course, and it seems Dr. [interviewer's name removed] may be a bad apple for AECOM.

 

[postbacker]

Not about to read this entire thread, but here is my take on it...the OP should have handled this differently...he should not have posted the letter on SDN "naming names" as he did, either...too big a chip on his shoulder IMO...by writing that letter, he may "feel better" about it, but he has all but wrecked his chances at AECOM, and I think that is stupid...this process is about getting into medical school, not having ones antennae up, looking for slights and insults from interviewers...

 

[belichek]

First of all, how do we know that everything the girl said was in fact true. It's all heresay, and i would like to hear the other side of the story before we all jump to conclusions. Einstien is a very good medical school, and has been around for a while. Dr. [interviewer's name removed] is a highly esteemed physican and his credentials are solid. I find it hard to believe that the interview panned out the way it did. And I love how the girl that wrote this letter is now posting it all over the muslim SDN page to simply incite people to hate on a Albert Einstien Medical School.

 

[DoctaJay]

I would encourage everyone to participating in this conversation to calm down and refrain from any personal attacks, despite personal feelings about the subject. Also, let's keep the topic on the OPs original post, so that the thread will still merit staying open.

 

[belichek]

I am sure that about fifty muslim applicants get an interview at AE each year. And i am sure that Dr. [interviewer's name removed] interviews on a regular basis. So why hasnt this been brought up before?

 

[DoctaJay]

I think the OPs situation has been thoroughly addressed.