My rotations group was given a speech by a memebr of the PCOM community that grades COMLEX PE and he stated that he does know that people are failing this exam.cowbydoc said:That's the question, has anyone failed. Please, first hand knowledge only, not I heard of a guy in Michigan, blah blah blah.
And if anyone has failed how did you/they do it? Thanks for any help.
What if you took it in 2005? I took it in early Feb. any idea how long?Popoy said:Hi All,
I called NBOME PE today and they told me that the letter's were sent out for those who took the exam in 2004... so everyone who took it in 2004 should be able to check on line or receive their score soon.
If you want to see your scores it's on line at the NBOME website click on the "Access Online System COMVEX-USA." If you haven't yet, go ahead and register. The NBOME sent all of us our "Secure Code" awhile back.... if you lost it, have no fear. Call them and they'll help you out.
I took the COMLEX PE on September 2004 and my group was THE FIRST group to go... I checked on the website and I was able to see whether or not I passed Step 1, 2-CE, 2-PE and 3...
And I am fortunate to say that I did PASS the COMLEX PE!!! This is per the website, I was informed that a hardcopy of the result should arrive in the mail by the end of this week or early next.
Hope that helps some....
Sorry... All the lady was able to tell me for certain was that the results were for those who took it in 2004 otherwise it will take "10-12 weeks"DO_Surgeon said:What if you took it in 2005? I took it in early Feb. any idea how long?
Ditto!!! Quite an annoyance if you ask me...PeeDee said:the letter you get back from the NBOME is worthless to figure out how you did exactly. All is says is...
Humanistic Domain: PASS
Biomedical/Biomechanical Domain: PASS
I figured I paid about $120 a letter...what an Unjustified exam.
If you are fourth year graduating this spring and your school requires it before graduation, I would have scheduled awhile ago. I have no idea if there are many spots before this May/June left. If you are a third year, I scheduled mine in late December and took it early Feb.jon62781 said:When should we try and schedule our PE??? Like, how late can we push this off before it is toooo late?
Dpayne said:Anyone know how failing this thing affects residency? Should I be worried that if I fail this exam a second time that my residency program will can me? Also I won't have the scores back from the 2nd exam before residency starts.
If anyone is wondering, they WILL fail you on the COMLEX PE if you don't do adequate OMM diagnosis and/or treatment on the patients.
Dpayne said:My point is not to say that Im doing OMT on every patient, but only that the limited feedback they give on the score report indicates that an osteopathic exam is considered part of the data gathering, not part of the specific OMT portion of the score. Also, based on the more extensive feedback that we get at KCOM on our in house OSCE, I can say that these types of tests are A)not standardized, and B)not objective. The fact that I know what I'm doing is what makes me so angry that I have to retake this test. If I'd failed my rotations or my KCOM OSCE I wouldn't be so angry.
oh my god I had that same woman! Same exact thing.DOtobe said:Some of my SPs annoyed me too on the PE. One of the things we were told in the orientation was that the patients will refuse any sensitive exams - breast exams, gynecological exams, rectal exams...So my first patient is a woman having some abdominal complaint, and I say I would need to do a rectal exam and a gynecological exam. Her response? "Oh, that would be fine." WTF? So I made something up like, "I'll come back later and do that." Having my first patient throw me for a loop like that was not a good start!
Amen. One of the problems is that most normal DO's hate the AOA, and don't want anything to do with it. All the nut-jobs with framed A.J. Still photos in their rooms and who can quote every osteopathic book published since the 1800s...those are the people who end up in the AOA leadership. Take a look around your class...the weirdest OMT freak in your class is probably going to be an AOA president in 30 years.romdos said:All this is is the Osteopathic community constantly looking over their shoulder to see what the MDs are doing and rushing to imitate them so they will have credibility.
If they want credibility, they shouldn't be so dogmatic about the use of OMT. It has it's place, but it is not the PRIMARY tool we use to diagnose/treat patients. Nothing will change until we get rid of the flakes who are currently in charge of all this.
That is more the fault of the "normal" DOs than the fringe minority, IMO. If you don't get involved in some way, you have no place to whine.Teufelhunden said:It's a shame that our "leadership" represents a fringe minority of our profession.
The scoring is ridiculous. All the score sheet says when you get it back is "pass." Did I pass by the skin of my teeth, or did I do fairly well? There is no way for us to know.romdos said:2 They don't give you any kind of breakdown of the scoring
Crap. I shouldn't have performed direct neuro-conversion of CV4 after making the diagnosis of paroxysmal cranial tachycardia. I think I sent my patient into cranial fib! I wonder what the letter will say ?Dpayne said:...If anyone is wondering, they WILL fail you on the COMLEX PE if you don't do adequate OMM diagnosis and/or treatment on the patients.