help: CA ORM / 492 MCAT / 3.1 GPA

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tigremyazz

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Hi everyone! I was thinking of applying this cycle till I got my MCAT back. I’m a CA ORM/Asian applicant and I’m especially looking for feedback on what to do next. I just recently finished my postbacc after 1 yr. I have a upward trend since senior year and this past post bacc year.

Stats / background

  • CA resident, ORM/Asian
  • OOS Uni (2yrs) transfer to Large CA public university (2yrs)
  • cGPA: ~3.1
  • sGPA: 2.84 (amcas) & 2.94 (aacomas)
  • MCAT: 492 (3.5mths prep)
Activities / hours

  • Clinical: ~321 hours;
  • Research: ~940 hours (1 publication on JAMA)
  • Nonclinical volunteering/service: ~383 hours
  • Leadership: ~272 hours
5 LORs: an MD, a MD/PhD, a DO, a lab prof, and a microbio prof

Questions

  1. Is it worth applying to DO schools only this cycle 2027 or nah?
  2. Should I just retake the mcat & apply next cycle 2028?
  3. Would a M.S. + mcat study be the way or focus on MCAT + sci courses at CC?
 
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You would benefit from another year of a DIY post bacc. Take enough undergraduate level science courses at a local college (community college is fine) in order to increase your sGPA and cGPA to 3.0 . You also need to retake the MCAT at some time. The GPA-MCAT grid for DO schools shows that you have only a 4% chance for a DO acceptance. Do not retake the MCAT until your practice scores are consistently 500+.
 
If your cGPA/sGPA includes your post-bacc coursework, you're in trouble.

Long story short, consider a disciplined pivot to an accelerated nursing program, doing well, and proceeding to nurse practitioner programs down the line. I don't think what you would need to do to become palatable to medical schools at this point would be worth it for anyone.

I don't say it to discourage you, it would just be a very long, unnecessarily arduous, and ultimately high-risk path. Your EC profile will be light for a nontraditional student hoping to compensate for metrics. You would need years of academic reinvention up to and probably including an SMP at this point, and even getting there would be a steep ask given that the reputable programs are medical school admissions-adjacent competitive processes, where most students are somewhat reasonable applicants to professional programs already. The MCAT would remain a huge obstacle, and you've already stepped in it by taking it unprepared. Your LORs literally don't matter and nobody will remember you (good luck updating those dates) by the time you apply. Your professors and colleagues will develop a strong amnesia and forget all about how hard you worked doing x, y, z with them. Sad, but it's been my experience and that of countless others here.

The bigger problem reinvention at this scale is that you would essentially be asked to move mountains just to have the privilege of applying.

If it were me (and at one point it was me), I would cut my losses and put my effort behind a durable credential, not additional useless education. All of healthcare is professionally closed (in the sociological sense of occupational closure) through licensing, so even doing a master's in the medical sciences is totally pointless without one.

It is not a credential you can take to a job, or some other professional school, and expect them to care. It is a degree that only exists because they are offered by medical schools and considered by medical schools for a narrow, admissions-related reason (read: medical schools wanted students to stop trying to prove themselves for admission with an MPH and figured they might as well cash in on those students rather than let them spend their tuition dollars at the public health school). They get paid whether or not you make it into medical school.

Worse, say you do make it to an SMP, but are not successful in admissions. Now you're deeper in the hole and even more psychologically predisposed to recoup sunk cost. You would be in a position where the Caribbean and other clearly opportunistic Hail Mary-type programs become alluring to prospective students. You really don't want to be in that situation entering into your 30s.

At least, with ~14-18 months, you get an RN/BSN, can start working right away, and negotiate for tuition reimbursement from your hospital for your next step on the side. The wage ceiling for nurses is obviously lower than it is for physicians, but I think MD/DO and even PA are too far away for it to make sense, and what you would spend trying to get there would dwarf what you would pay for nursing school at your local state school.

Long term, I think it's just the next rational step...

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As Polymerization said it is a very very long and arduous road ahead. However, it is up to you if it’s worth it. I had similar stats and it has taken me 5 years to finally get my application together to get an acceptance.
I don’t really agree with the nursing thing *however* my slow and steady pace was successful. If it wasn’t successful I would feel trapped. BUT not trapped enough to go to a Caribbean school!!!!!!!!

My stats before: 2.75 cgpa, 2.0 sgpa, 490 MCAT
I was not a science major so the 2.0 was for maybe 4-5 classes.

I did a DIY postbacc, a traditional pre-med postbacc, AND completed an SMP. In total it took an additional 60 credits of graduate hard sciences and almost 80 credits at the undergraduate level (damn near another bachelors!!!!!) to get my cgpa to a 3.4, and sgpa to a 3.3 and my masters gpa was a 3.8.

I took the MCAT 3 times for it to get into the lower-mid 500’s.

This would’ve been a financial DISASTER if I was just working dead end jobs for 5 years. But I had a very well paying job (upper 100’s) so taking my time preparing an application wasn’t the end of the world.

It is likely going to take you just as long. If you choose to do this, enjoy your life at the same time or you’ll look back and regret it. I’ve travelled the world and experienced life during this time. I would be very jaded if I didn’t.

Good luck and feel free to dm if you want to see how I did it. Again it WILL take a long time. Be prepared for that.
 
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