Hematology/Oncology 2019-2020 Fellowship Season

[Doc870]

What are your interests? MCW is strong for both liquids and solids. In general, it’s a highly underrated program.

Edit: also should add that your rank list looks very reasonable as is.

Seems reasonable if that's how you liked them.

Thanks for the input. I am interested more in Solid malignancies. I agree with you. MCW is a strong program. Should I rank MCW above MUSC? MUSC is an NCI designated cancer center. MCW might become NCI designated in 1-2 years.

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[onchopeful1]

Thanks for the input. I am interested more in Solid malignancies. I agree with you. MCW is a strong program. Should I rank MCW above MUSC? MUSC is an NCI designated cancer center. MCW might become NCI designated in 1-2 years.

I wouldn’t rank them higher than MUSC.

 

[Aim260]

Anyone who interviewed at Roswell Park? - Does someone meet you in the lobby or we are supposed to go to CSC? Where do I go in the morning?

Thanks!

 

[Xospata]

WashU >>>>> CWRU >>Buffalo

Really??
U feel Roswell park is worse than CWRU?!! @gutonc

 

[liquidlarotrectinib]

Hey everyone,
Can you please help me with this list:
- Emory
- CWU
- IOWA
- Georgetown
- UVA
- Montefiore Albert einstein
- mayo Florida
- UF
- UNMC
- Baylor H
- MUSC
- San Antonio
- U mass
- VCU
- Hershey's
- SLU

leaning toward solid, without big/major interest. I prefer to avoid very cold weather.
Thanks in advance

Is this your rank list now?

If so would absolutely have Baylor over UVA. And UNMC over Montefiore +/- UVA. Would strongly consider putting VCU +/- Mayo Florida above Montefiore as well.

 

[NYUyankeezfan]

Anyone who interviewed at Roswell Park? - Does someone meet you in the lobby or we are supposed to go to CSC? Where do I go in the morning?

Thanks!

Hey Hey - so you don't go to the main lobby at Roswell Park - you need to go to the lobby of the "Scott Bieler Clinical Sciences Center" which is the tall glass building attached to Roswell. The program coordinator will come down to meet the group. There's a group of couches you can hang out at before she gets you.

 

[liquidlarotrectinib]

Thanks for the input. I am interested more in Solid malignancies. I agree with you. MCW is a strong program. Should I rank MCW above MUSC? MUSC is an NCI designated cancer center. MCW might become NCI designated in 1-2 years.

I would go based on what you thought of them on interview day. I wouldn't rank MCW lower just because it doesn't have an NCI designation yet, as you said, it's likely in the works. As I said before your list looked very reasonable as is.

 

[blackcadillacs]

Can anyone comment on City of Hope? It seems like a great program in terms of research opportunities, but am curious about the clinical training. It seemed like they had pretty good exposure to wide spectrum of diseases including bread and butter, but wanted to make sure this was actually the case since the prior fellows are primarily Harbor-based.

 

[hemeonccandidate123]

Is this your rank list now?

If so would absolutely have Baylor over UVA. And UNMC over Montefiore +/- UVA. would strongly consider putting VCU +/- Mayo Florida above Montefiore as well.

thanks for your suggestions.

Baylor was very strict about 2 years of continuous clinical experience without any time for research. Also, they have 10-14 in half-day clinic (I think it is too much)
I felt UVA is growing. I don't care that much about living in a small city.

 

[ka2390]

Hi guys,

Can you please help me with this list:


-SUNY downstate
-Vidant medical center (NC)
-University of Mississippi med center
-univ of of Minnesota
-NYU
-Lehigh Valley Health Network
-St. Joseph mercy (Michigan)
-roger Williams (Rhode island)

More toward solid, without major interest. Not crazy about research. I live in NY, don’t have any geographic limitations (but deep inside I know I rather staying close to ny)......Thanks in advance

 

[liquidlarotrectinib]

Hi guys,

Can you please help me with this list:


-SUNY downstate
-Vidant medical center (NC)
-University of Mississippi med center
-univ of of Minnesota
-NYU
-Lehigh Valley Health Network
-St. Joseph mercy (Michigan)
-roger Williams (Rhode island)

More toward solid, without major interest. Not crazy about research. I live in NY, don’t have any geographic limitations (but deep inside I know I rather staying close to ny)......Thanks in advance

Top 2 are far and away NYU and Minnesota. Wouldn’t know enough about the rest of them to say anything meaningful but recommend ranking based on what you thought of them on interview day.

 

[IM_applicant]

Hi guys,

Can you please help me with this list:


-SUNY downstate
-Vidant medical center (NC)
-University of Mississippi med center
-univ of of Minnesota
-NYU
-Lehigh Valley Health Network
-St. Joseph mercy (Michigan)
-roger Williams (Rhode island)

More toward solid, without major interest. Not crazy about research. I live in NY, don’t have any geographic limitations (but deep inside I know I rather staying close to ny)......Thanks in advance

Is that the way you were going to rank them? What was your reasoning?

Top 2 are far and away NYU and Minnesota. Wouldn’t know enough about the rest of them to say anything meaningful but recommend ranking based on what you thought of them on interview day.

I would think so too. Even if you have no interest in research, big academic programs (NYU/U of Minn) have the flexibility to give you more clinical exposure to what you are interested in, connect you with people in the community practices affiliated with their health system and get you into hybrid academic practices.

 

[ka2390]

Top 2 are far and away NYU and Minnesota. Wouldn’t know enough about the rest of them to say anything meaningful but recommend ranking based on what you thought of them on interview day.

Thank you!!!

 

[ka2390]

Is that the way you were going to rank them? What was your reasoning?


I would think so too. Even if you have no interest in research, big academic programs (NYU/U of Minn) have the flexibility to give you more clinical exposure to what you are interested in, connect you with people in the community practices affiliated with their health system and get you into hybrid academic practices.

Thank you. Really appreciate it!

 

[gutonc]

Hi guys,

Can you please help me with this list:


-SUNY downstate
-Vidant medical center (NC)
-University of Mississippi med center
-univ of of Minnesota
-NYU
-Lehigh Valley Health Network
-St. Joseph mercy (Michigan)
-roger Williams (Rhode island)

More toward solid, without major interest. Not crazy about research. I live in NY, don’t have any geographic limitations (but deep inside I know I rather staying close to ny)......Thanks in advance

UMinn
NYU
UMiss
A career in hospital or primary care medicine
The rest of them in alphabetical or some other random order

 

[whatup2016]

Loyola
Dartmouth
MCW
UF

Not entirely sure what I’m interested in clinically but interested in patient reported outcomes in research.
Leaning Loyola because it’s a city and as a result, having a social life would be much easier.

UF was great - but hate hot weather. Think it’d be miserable.

Thoughts? @gutonc

 

[Doc870]

I would go based on what you thought of them on interview day. I wouldn't rank MCW lower just because it doesn't have an NCI designation yet, as you said, it's likely in the works. As I said before your list looked very reasonable as is.

Thank you for your feedback

 

[Doc870]

Any thoughts on Levine Cancer institute Charlotte. I have an interview scheduled next week. Thanks

 

[Aim260]

Hey Hey - so you don't go to the main lobby at Roswell Park - you need to go to the lobby of the "Scott Bieler Clinical Sciences Center" which is the tall glass building attached to Roswell. The program coordinator will come down to meet the group. There's a group of couches you can hang out at before she gets you.

Thanks!

 

[Aim260]

Can anyone comment on City of Hope? It seems like a great program in terms of research opportunities, but am curious about the clinical training. It seemed like they had pretty good exposure to wide spectrum of diseases including bread and butter, but wanted to make sure this was actually the case since the prior fellows are primarily Harbor-based.

I am in the same dilemma. I am interested in malignant hematology and know that City of Hope is a very strong program in terms of BMT and malignant heme.

Moffitt
CWRU
City of Hope
Yale
Mayo jacksonville
Roswell Park

Not very sure how to rank these!

 

[AmiSansNom]

Loyola
Dartmouth
MCW
UF

Not entirely sure what I’m interested in clinically but interested in patient reported outcomes in research.
Leaning Loyola because it’s a city and as a result, having a social life would be much easier.

UF was great - but hate hot weather. Think it’d be miserable.

Thoughts? @gutonc

This sounds like a reasonable list. What did you think about Dartmouth? I think it's a great program. How do you like the location? Is that the sole reason it came second oin your list?

 

[AmiSansNom]

Thank you. I am not factoring the location much. I liked dartmouth a lot and certainly better than miami and VCU in my opinion in terms of training and reputation.

Dartmouth is a great place, although I don't know how it compares to places like Boston University or Tufts or Brown University. They are all comparable, probably.

 

[AmiSansNom]

Interviewed at BU and canceled Tufts so obviously I'm biased towards BU being better. Seems like BU made a lot of changes since Kulke from DFCI took over. Fellows said they split the consult services into heme and onc and they are no longer covering the inpatient teams at all. PD said that they re-structured the schedule so you have more continuous research time and one of the chief fellows said she was doing research with the stem cell group. I got the sense the place was growing and recruiting faculty too. It's definitely overshadowed by DFCI and to some degree BIDMC but I think academic opportunities are better than at Tufts. I'm assuming Tufts will let you do this as well (correct me if I'm wrong) but BU let you do research wherever you'd like in the city.

Brown is a pretty small program. Reputation is slightly better than BU (unless you're into Amyloid) and they recruited El-Deiry from Fox Chase in case you convert to onc. You can probably live somewhere between Boston and Brown but you'd need two cars and neither of you will have an easy commute.

Didn't interview at NYU so can't say anything about that but Fox Chase is IMO by far the strongest program on your list in terms of preparing you for an academic career. Post-doc opportunities are abundant in Philly too so you could always see if your SO finds something interesting by ROL submission.

Are you sure the reputation of BU is better than Brown? BU seems to be up and coming with the new director and tons of facilities plus advantage of cross-collaboration being in Boston. Brown's hospital seemed smaller? And not really sure if they have good clinical/basic science research labs? BU's cancer center looked almost on par with an NCI-designated center to me...

 

[Cilostazol]

Howdy everyone;

Any thoughts on these two NY programs in comparison?

lenox hill hematology oncology fellowship
vs
Jacobi Medical Center Albert Einstein Heme onc

Cheers!

 

[Icrydacrocytes]

Thoughts on ranking OHSU vs Indiana for solids? Indiana is close to wife’s family and they seem strong but OHSU also seemed great.

 

[IM_applicant]

Are you sure the reputation of BU is better than Brown? BU seems to be up and coming with the new director and tons of facilities plus advantage of cross-collaboration being in Boston. Brown's hospital seemed smaller? And not really sure if they have good clinical/basic science research labs? BU's cancer center looked almost on par with an NCI-designated center to me...

I'm definitely not sure. Reputation is something that is very difficult to gage and I would not base your decision on someone on SDN (me included/especially) telling you their perception about reputation. FWIW, BU seems to have more NIH funding than Brown

NIH Awards by Location and Organization - NIH Research Portfolio Online Reporting Tools (RePORT)

report.nih.gov

I agree that BU is up and coming with tons of advantages of being in Boston and I personally would rank it above Brown.

 

[gutonc]

Thoughts on ranking OHSU vs Indiana for solids? Indiana is close to wife’s family and they seem strong but OHSU also seemed great.

OHSU wins on location but program-wise it's essentially a coin flip.

 

[Koldsweat22]

Seems NRMP rank order lists opened on 10/2???

 

[MDhopeful23]

OHSU wins on location but program-wise it's essentially a coin flip.

in reality Indiana wins in location for him ; for everybody else I’d agree with you

 

[IM_applicant]

Seems NRMP rank order lists opened on 10/2???

Yep, you can rank

 

[Icrydacrocytes]

OHSU wins on location but program-wise it's essentially a coin flip.

Thanks for the advice gutonc.

 

[Lickiii]

How would you rank:
Iowa, Case Western, Montefiore.
On the surface they all look the same.
Struggling to differentiate them.
Help?

 

[IM_applicant]

How would you rank:
Iowa, Case Western, Montefiore.
On the surface they all look the same.
Struggling to differentiate them.
Help?

What were your impressions? And what are your interests and geo pref?

 

[Poor Applicant!]

Question about a DO fellowship program (that also accepts MDs).
I called ERAS and asked them if my title/degree gonna be different from other Hem/Onc fellowship (from non-DO) programs, and they said no.

Any possible problem finding a job after graduating from a DO hem/onc fellowship?

Thanks

 

[houseathome]

Would appreciate thoughts on the following middle of my rank list programs (ranked in order of how I liked them). Interested in solids.


Jefferson
OHSU vs Cleveland clinic
NYU
Emory
UMD

 

[HEMOT]

Question about a DO fellowship program (that also accepts MDs).
I called ERAS and asked them if my title/degree gonna be different from other Hem/Onc fellowship (from non-DO) programs, and they said no.

Any possible problem finding a job after graduating from a DO hem/onc fellowship?

Thanks

If you can take h/o board and get certified, I don’t see any problem here. But what’s DO h/o fellowship?

 

[Lickiii]

What were your impressions? And what are your interests and geo pref?

On the surface, the three programs look similar.
Citywise, NYC wins hands down but I am not sure about the small details of life in NYC.
I am interested in Academic onc career.
I am looking for solid training that can take me anywhere later in the future.

Thoughts?
@gutonc ?

 

[IM_applicant]

Would appreciate thoughts on the following middle of my rank list programs (ranked in order of how I liked them). Interested in solids.


Jefferson
OHSU vs Cleveland clinic
NYU
Emory
UMD

I felt Jefferson was a really nice place to train but not as academic as other programs in the city and on your list, less academic than Emory and NYU. Emory's first year sounded pretty rough but otherwise, they seem to have pretty supportive faculty and good academic opportunities after fellowship. I would probably rank Emory at the top, then NYU. Would be happy to hear other people's thoughts obviously.

 

[IM_applicant]

On the surface, the three programs look similar.
Citywise, NYC wins hands down but I am not sure about the small details of life in NYC.
I am interested in Academic onc career.
I am looking for solid training that can take me anywhere later in the future.

Thoughts?
@gutonc ?

I feel Iowa and to some degree, Case have a better academic reputation. Monte has so many institutions in the city to compete with. I'd still rank Monte first because I think it's easier to find jobs on the coast if you trained there and I'd prefer living in NYC/Bronx. But I'm not you. Kind of depends on the mentors you can see yourself working with. If you're interested in breast for example, Monte has Sparano which is very big in the field.

 

[vipmak]

Can someone help me rank these programs?

UAB
University of Miami
U Mass
U Cincinatti
U Nebraska

 

[Gerotuzumab]

Any advice comparing Fox Chase/Temple vs Mayo Clinic, AZ? I am torn between the two as both provide great opportunities but in vastly different locations. Open to thoughts/opinions/experiences etc.

 

[houseathome]

I felt Jefferson was a really nice place to train but not as academic as other programs in the city and on your list, less academic than Emory and NYU. Emory's first year sounded pretty rough but otherwise, they seem to have pretty supportive faculty and good academic opportunities after fellowship. I would probably rank Emory at the top, then NYU. Would be happy to hear other people's thoughts obviously.

Thanks for your reply. You think Emory is stronger than CCF and OHSU as well? (These two are kind of tied for me too)
I liked Jefferson more overall, but agree Emory might be a bit more academic focused.
appreciate any thoughts from @gutonc as well.
Right now considering breast vs lung, but not firmly decided.
thanks!

 

[IM_applicant]

Any advice comparing Fox Chase/Temple vs Mayo Clinic, AZ? I am torn between the two as both provide great opportunities but in vastly different locations. Open to thoughts/opinions/experiences etc.

In my mind, Fox Chase is much better than Mayo AZ. They have an excellent reputation, connections in most NCCN guideline committees and their alumni do excellent in academics and elsewhere. Mayo AZ is a 2-fellow program with a lot of people staying in AZ / Mayo / private practice. Plus for me Philly >>> Arizonna. Obviously, if you have specific mentors at Mayo that you think would be a better fit, go for it. I loved my interview day at Fox Chase and did not apply to Mayo AZ so I'm biased.

Alumni | Fox Chase Cancer Center - Philadelphia PA

After completing the Fox Chase Cancer Center Hematology/Oncology Fellowship Training Program, many of our alumni go on to have successful and long-lasting careers in oncology. A number of alumni of this program have been hired out of fellowship, or have returned to Fox Chase to work as faculty.

www.foxchase.org

Meet Our Fellows - Hematology/Oncology Fellowship (Arizona) - Mayo Clinic College of Medicine & Science

Fellow profiles for the Hematology/Oncology Fellowship at Mayo Clinic in Phoenix/Scottsdale, Arizona.

college.mayo.edu

 

[ka2390]

Hi guys, I updated my RL, would appreciate any thoughts on the following list. I ranked in order of how I liked them during my interview and the clinical exposure fellows have. Leaning toward solids.

-NYU, long island.
-SUNY, Brooklyn.
-Lehigh valley, Pennsylvania.
-Univ of Minnesota
-Roger Williams, Rhode Island.
-Vidant medical center, North Carolina.
-Univ of Mississippi
-St Joseph, Detroit.

Thank you in advance.

 

[Gerotuzumab]

In my mind, Fox Chase is much better than Mayo AZ. They have an excellent reputation, connections in most NCCN guideline committees and their alumni do excellent in academics and elsewhere. Mayo AZ is a 2-fellow program with a lot of people staying in AZ / Mayo / private practice. Plus for me Philly >>> Arizonna. Obviously, if you have specific mentors at Mayo that you think would be a better fit, go for it. I loved my interview day at Fox Chase and did not apply to Mayo AZ so I'm biased.

Alumni | Fox Chase Cancer Center - Philadelphia PA

After completing the Fox Chase Cancer Center Hematology/Oncology Fellowship Training Program, many of our alumni go on to have successful and long-lasting careers in oncology. A number of alumni of this program have been hired out of fellowship, or have returned to Fox Chase to work as faculty.

www.foxchase.org

Meet Our Fellows - Hematology/Oncology Fellowship (Arizona) - Mayo Clinic College of Medicine & Science

Fellow profiles for the Hematology/Oncology Fellowship at Mayo Clinic in Phoenix/Scottsdale, Arizona.

college.mayo.edu

my guy tagged it with receipts lol. Appreciate it.

 

[gutonc]

How would you rank:
Iowa, Case Western, Montefiore.
On the surface they all look the same.
Struggling to differentiate them.
Help?

Personally I'd rank them just like that.

I think Monte and Case could be a coin flip, although COL and lifestyle are going to be very different in Cleveland and the Bronx.

 

[gutonc]

Hi guys, I updated my RL, would appreciate any thoughts on the following list. I ranked in order of how I liked them during my interview and the clinical exposure fellows have. Leaning toward solids.

-NYU, long island.
-SUNY, Brooklyn.
-Lehigh valley, Pennsylvania.
-Univ of Minnesota
-Roger Williams, Rhode Island.
-Vidant medical center, North Carolina.
-Univ of Mississippi
-St Joseph, Detroit.

Thank you in advance.

Dude...if UMinn isn't #1 on your list what are you even doing?

 

[gutonc]

Can someone help me rank these programs?

UAB
University of Miami
U Mass
U Cincinatti
U Nebraska

I'd put Cincy #2 and then leave it alone.

 

[Lickiii]

Personally I'd rank them just like that.

I think Monte and Case could be a coin flip, although COL and lifestyle are going to be very different in Cleveland and the Bronx.

Thank you.
Any particular reason why Iowa is #1?
What are the strengths/advantages?
Doesn't life in NYC trump Iowa City?

 

[ka2390]

Dude...if UMinn isn't #1 on your list what are you even doing?

I guess you are right...