Here we go again: The third cycle

[Myro]

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LOL OP!!

Good luck with the next cycle bro! And by bro, I mean NEVER my bro...

 

[Snuke]

Whatever, bro. I'm done trying to reason with you. Hey, if this cycle doesn't work out for you, maybe you should try nursing. I bet you'll go far.

He's not nice or competent enough to be a nurse, but otherwise spot-on.

Let's be friends?

 

[09ine]

Whatever, bro. I'm done trying to reason with you. Hey, if this cycle doesn't work out for you, maybe you should try nursing. I bet you'll go far.

Woah man, don't go down on his level by trying to dominate other health professions, you're better than that.

 

[legolaasMD]

Your motivation for medicine seems to be a bit blurry based on your decision to withdraw from your initial acceptance. Is it prestige you chase?

Since when is wanting the best medical education possible a sign that I don't have proper motivation for medicine?

Is there any doubt why you didn't get in? You's a jerk bra. But seriously, why the hate?

Speak for yourself man. I'm just telling my story, and people are trying 🙄 to rip into me. You all seem to be ready to project all your anxiety and self-loathing on me.

 

[CuttingCorneas]

Woah man, don't go down on his level by trying to dominate other health professions, you're better than that.

I know. I respect nurses, and I'd hate for them to have to deal with someone as cocky as the OP. But it'd give me great satisfaction knowing he'd be disimpacting bowels all day errday.

 

[CuttingCorneas]

He's not nice or competent enough to be a nurse, but otherwise spot-on.

Let's be friends?

Gladly 😀

 

[legolaasMD]

LOL OP!!

Good luck with the next cycle bro! And by bro, I mean NEVER my bro...

You've changed my life, bron't

 

[Shakespeare37]

Since when is wanting the best medical education possible a sign that I don't have proper motivation for medicine?

US MD=US MD Everywhere but SDN this is true. You could have two more years of earning potential had you not turned down your initial acceptance. Thats worth about 100K, at least. Good move!

 

[Snuke]

Speak for yourself man. I'm just telling my story, and people are trying 🙄 to rip into me. You all seem to be ready to project all your anxiety and self-loathing on me.

Nice one, Freud.

Perhaps you could listen to the solid advice in this thread? No, you can't, because that might be admitting that you are still that same person who turned down a medical school acceptance for something better. You haven't changed at all, nor have you learned a bit. Toxic personality, much?

 

[legolaasMD]

Woah man, don't go down on his level by trying to dominate other health professions, you're better than that.

With this attitude, you'll either be at the top doctor with malpractice suits or the top person asking for welfare assistance

Hyprocrisy much?

 

[09ine]

Hyprocrisy much?

I'm not the hero you deserve, but the hero you need.

 

[legolaasMD]

Nice one, Freud.

Perhaps you could listen to the solid advice in this thread? No, you can't, because that might be admitting that you are still that same person who turned down a medical school acceptance for something better. You haven't changed at all, nor have you learned a bit. Toxic personality, much?

Says the person with "snuke" as a username. Classy. 👍

Any if you actually took 15 seconds to read the first post, I clearly said I wasn't soliciting advice. This is my third cycle, I think I know what I'm doing by now.

 

[legolaasMD]

I'm not the hero you deserve, but the hero you need.

Pimply internet pre-med boy?

To infinity and beyond bro, knock yourself out.

 

[Shakespeare37]

Says the person with "snuke" as a username. Classy. 👍

Any if you actually took 15 seconds to read the first post, I clearly said I wasn't soliciting advice. This is my third cycle, I think I know what I'm doing by now.

LOLOLOLOLOL..... I'm dying.

Yup, you've got this whole thing figured out!!!

 

[snow88]

Speak for yourself man. I'm just telling my story, and people are trying 🙄 to rip into me. You all seem to be ready to project all your anxiety and self-loathing on me.

I don't really see any instances in this thread where people are projecting anxiety and self-loathing onto you. Most people here are just trying to give you the advice that there is no room for arrogance in this application process. Additionally, you never answered my earlier question-what have you been up to during these application cycles? Depending on your answer, that might be a large portion of the problem.

 

[09ine]

Pimply internet pre-med boy?

To infinity and beyond bro, knock yourself out.

If you don't respect Nolan, you don't deserve the respect of humanity.

 

[Snuke]

Says the person with "snuke" as a username. Classy. 👍

Any if you actually took 15 seconds to read the first post, I clearly said I wasn't soliciting advice. This is my third cycle, I think I know what I'm doing by now.

Considering most people need only one cycle, I'd hope that you have things figured out by now.

So what's your gameplan, Slick? Shell out more money for secondaries you'll never complete in time? Attend a few interviews, eat all the chocolate muffins, and loudly declare, "You know, I've already been accepted. NBD."

 

[TheGloaming]

Nice one, Freud.

Perhaps you could listen to the solid advice in this thread? No, you can't, because that might be admitting that you are still that same person who turned down a medical school acceptance for something better. You haven't changed at all, nor have you learned a bit. Toxic personality, much?

Ooops, you spelled "nothing" wrong. No big deal though.

 

[Snuke]

Ooops, you spelled "nothing" wrong. No big deal though.

Good catch. Perhaps I should have said, "for the futile hope of something better." Either works.

 

[drizzt3117]

Says the person with "snuke" as a username. Classy. 👍

Any if you actually took 15 seconds to read the first post, I clearly said I wasn't soliciting advice. This is my third cycle, I think I know what I'm doing by now.

Yes, you should be very good at filling out AMCAS by now.

One of my family friends turned down an acceptance their first cycle during my first postbac year in 2005 (from morehouse actually) because they thought they could do better with high stats (actually higher than the OPs, I think they had ~4.0 and high 30s but applied really late, like September). They had 3 failed cycles (their last one was on my app cycle) and I think he's been doing research to try to improve his app for a couple years; I'm finishing med school in 3 days; if he'd taken that first acceptance he could have almost finished an internal med residency by now instead of being a premed. Turning down acceptances completely f-s you for future cycles.

 

[drizzt3117]

I don't really see any instances in this thread where people are projecting anxiety and self-loathing onto you. Most people here are just trying to give you the advice that there is no room for arrogance in this application process. Additionally, you never answered my earlier question-what have you been up to during these application cycles? Depending on your answer, that might be a large portion of the problem.

I think most people just think it's funny and/or sad.

 

[legolaasMD]

If you don't respect Nolan, you don't deserve the respect of humanity.

If you had any respect for the franchise, you would know that quote predated Dark Knight by quite a long time. 👎

Considering most people need only one cycle, I'd hope that you have things figured out by now.

So what's your gameplan, Slick? Shell out more money for secondaries you'll never complete in time? Attend a few interviews, eat all the chocolate muffins, and loudly declare, "You know, I've already been accepted. NBD."

The past is the past. People make mistakes, and it takes truly amazing people to rise from the ashes. Take some notes.

Ooops, you spelled "nothing" wrong. No big deal though.

Clever girl.

raptor.jpg

 

[Slowpoke]

Since when is wanting the best medical education possible a sign that I don't have proper motivation for medicine?

Explain to me how you determine the level of education you would receive from your state school vs. any other school.

 

[STAT EKG]

I'm confident that with my accomplishments, I'll get where I want to be -- THE TOP! To quote one of my favorite songs: "I get knocked down, but I get up again. You neva' gonna keep me down."

Remember it.


🤣

 

[Snuke]

The past is the past. People make mistakes, and it takes truly amazing people to rise from the ashes. Take some notes.

No thanks. While you're busy resurrecting yourself (or attempting to), I'll be preoccupied with taking real notes. For a medical school.

How does it feel knowing that the closest you ever came was almost two years ago, and you'll never be that close again? I wouldn't know.

 

[09ine]

If you had any respect for the franchise, you would know that quote predated Dark Knight by quite a long time. 👎



The past is the past. People make mistakes, and it takes truly amazing people to rise from the ashes. Take some notes.



Clever girl.

raptor.jpg

By ashes you mean getting accepted when you're 50 and becoming a real doctor by 60, then being cremated to create ashes 2 years later?

 

[legolaasMD]

Explain to me how you determine the level of education you would receive from your state school vs. any other school.

Well slowpoke, I would like to congratulate you on your apt name. But let's break this down. Harvard vs. state school. (HAR-VAHRD if you need help with the syllables).

If this needs further explanation I suggest you request your username gets changed to potatoONinternet.

 

[Itsreallysmall]

We're all getting trolled so hard.

Successful troll is successful.

 

[Frazier]

ITT: e-peens flailing left and right.

 

[thlaxer]

We're all getting trolled so hard.

Successful troll is successful.

He's quite entertaining actually.

 

[Snuke]

He's quite entertaining actually.

👍

It's a great break from finals.

 

[legolaasMD]

ITT: e-peens flailing left and right.

I know right? Thread-crashing must really be fun.

 

[09ine]

👍

It's a great break from finals.

Don't what is more entertaining, this or studying for my Hans C. Andersen final tomorrow.

 

[drizzt3117]

 

[legolaasMD]

And really, be entertained all you like, I was just posting my story here to help some new people out, and then before you know it Reverend McPreachypants and the Self-righteous gang came in and started laying into me. Gotta love internet tough guys...

 

[STAT EKG]

So here I sit with May 15th looming, and with only wait lists to my name yet again, my hope is quickly dwindling. I was in this position last year too, and to be frank: it sucks. What is even more frustrating is that you guys might consider me a "no brainer" applicant with a lizzym score of 76 (39 MCAT, 3.74 cGPA), with over 200 hours of various volunteer work (about 100 of which is clinical).

My first application was done in haste with a great deal of overconfidence. Coming off of a 39 MCAT and with a really high GPA, I figured I would be a shoe-in for my state school, so I applied there and Harvard, because hey why not dream? 🙄 Come February, I had been to my state school interview, but hadn't heard anything back from Harvard. In retrospect it isn't a HUGE surprise, but at the time I was fairly angry that someone in the 99th percentile would be overlooked by any program at all. In the coming weeks I was accepted to my state school, and in a hot-headed decision, I withdrew the acceptance to take another crack at the ivy league. I really, really did not want to settle for a state school with my credentials. It was the worst decision of my life.

This past year I came in more determined than ever, and I had found SDN -- a secret weapon rife with tons of great information. I figured there would be no way that history would here repeat itself. Unfortunately for me, I ended up being overly anal and applying later than I should have (mid-June) and to only about twenty schools. This time around, the real killer was the secondaries. Applying to 15 schools was way too overwhelming. There were some schools that wanted me to write 2 or 3, 500 or so word essays...and THEN charge me 80 bucks for them to even look at it! Anyway, I got most of the secondaries done before their cutoffs, and in the coming weeks and months I was furious as I only heard back from 3 schools that weren't even top 20s. I attended the interviews anyways though, and became continually more furious with each wait list I received. According to the MSAR, I was at or above their 90th percentile for MCAT 😡

So here I am...3 waitlists and about as many weeks before I'm going to have to start re-applying AGAIN. I think by now I have a good idea on what to do, so I'm not at all soliciting advice. Take this story though as a testament of how competitive medical school applications are now. Schools can afford to toss seemingly jaw-dropping applicants to the curb on a whim. So to all you pre-meds about to buck up and apply to medical school -- get ready for a wild ride, and don't be too upset if you don't get in this year, especially if you have mediocre stats like 33/3.6...I'm sure if you have good enough ECs, you'll see some interviews.

Edit: First post, be gentle!

Don't give up, Chris. You've come too far man. You've come too far.

 

[snow88]

Love it. also now I'm hungry and want a mango.

 

[TheGloaming]

Well slowpoke, I would like to congratulate you on your apt name. But let's break this down. Harvard vs. state school. (HAR-VAHRD if you need help with the syllables).

If this needs further explanation I suggest you request your username gets changed to potatoONinternet.

Hmmm... Legitimate point, and I tried to get that username when I made my account, it was already taken

 

[legolaasMD]

Don't give up, Chris. You've come too far man. You've come too far.

I don't know you, bro. Nice try though.

 

[Hotshy]

SDN pls

 

[mcrechio]

Perhaps, third time will be a charm. Good luck on your re-re-app to Harvahrd. Maybe they'll see something in you this next time that they missed in the last two go-arounds.

If you are fortunate enough to get accepted at one of the three schools you are wait-listed at, I hope that you are humbled enough to take the acceptance and get on with your life.

 

[Arbor Vitae]

In the coming weeks I was accepted to my state school, and in a hot-headed decision, I withdrew the acceptance to take another crack at the ivy league. I really, really did not want to settle for a state school with my credentials. It was the worst decision of my life.

Wait, you seriously turned down an acceptance to reapply?

 

[kasho11]

Dedicated troll or
Arrogant-douche pre-med or
A genuinely good applicant who wants to get into a top school but was unsuccessful for whatever reason/lacking in certain areas.

45% #2, 35% #1, 20% #3

 

[Arbor Vitae]

You're right I edited it to reflect it not being WAY too late, Wait, do people really get blackballed? Why would they waste the chance to get someone with an otherwise fantastic application just because I wanted to see how high I could go??

If you aren't a troll, I bet there is something written in one of your letters that is a red-flag. I know a few horror stories of professors who agreed to write a letter of rec and then ended up making sure that person never got in. One guy from my undergrad had a professor write that he would be afraid to have this person as his physician. The kid ended up coming back and giving death threats to the professor and mailing the police department and newspapers with a fake police report that the professor raped him. Good thing that professor wrote that letter.

 

[Snuke]

If you aren't a troll, I bet there is something written in one of your letters that is a red-flag. I know a few horror stories of professors who agreed to write a letter of rec and then ended up making sure that person never got in. One guy from my undergrad had a professor write that he would be afraid to have this person as his physician. The kid ended up coming back and giving death threats to the professor and mailing the police department and newspapers with a fake police report that the professor raped him. Good thing that professor wrote that letter.

Wow, that's seriously messed up. How did he know that it was this professor?

 

[09ine]

If you aren't a troll, I bet there is something written in one of your letters that is a red-flag. I know a few horror stories of professors who agreed to write a letter of rec and then ended up making sure that person never got in. One guy from my undergrad had a professor write that he would be afraid to have this person as his physician. The kid ended up coming back and giving death threats to the professor and mailing the police department and newspapers with a fake police report that the professor raped him. Good thing that professor wrote that letter.

Link to story? Now I'm getting nervous, even though I don't think that would happen to me, but still, what if they have just one off day.

 

[getdown]

Well slowpoke, I would like to congratulate you on your apt name. But let's break this down. Harvard vs. state school. (HAR-VAHRD if you need help with the syllables).

If this needs further explanation I suggest you request your username gets changed to potatoONinternet.

Apparently you're the one that doesn't get it. Graduating from Harvard doesn't make you a good doctor and graduating from your state school doesn't make you a bad one either. It's really dependent on your willingness to work hard. Unfortunately, there's still too many people that think like you that still make it through ... if only we could cull a few more, it'd make medical school more bearable.

 

[Arbor Vitae]

Wow, that's seriously messed up. How did he know that it was this professor?

I'm not sure exactly. I found out after I graduated and saw it in the news.

It was either an interviewer who brought it up, or he mailed the letter to a "fake job" so he could read the letters himself. I've honestly thought about mailing my letters to an "employer" so i could get my hands on them.

Anyways, the local newspaper even published the rape story before they found out what happened. I feel so bad for the professor. He was my favorite as an undergrad, but a very hardcore, no bs type of prof.

 

[legolaasMD]

Perhaps, third time will be a charm. Good luck on your re-re-app to Harvahrd. Maybe they'll see something in you this next time that they missed in the last two go-arounds.

If you are fortunate enough to get accepted at one of the three schools you are wait-listed at, I hope that you are humbled enough to take the acceptance and get on with your life.

Humility is for the defeated. Medicine needs more people that can grab a situation by the horns.

If you aren't a troll, I bet there is something written in one of your letters that is a red-flag. I know a few horror stories of professors who agreed to write a letter of rec and then ended up making sure that person never got in. One guy from my undergrad had a professor write that he would be afraid to have this person as his physician. The kid ended up coming back and giving death threats to the professor and mailing the police department and newspapers with a fake police report that the professor raped him. Good thing that professor wrote that letter.

That is truly frightening. I know I got great LORs though because I went to ALL of their office hours. For volunteering , they loved me too. I'm quite the personable individual, and I would truly be shocked if anyone had negative words to say about me.

coughunlessitsjealousy

 

[MegMurry]

Perhaps, third time will be a charm. Good luck on your re-re-app to Harvahrd. Maybe they'll see something in you this next time that they missed in the last two go-arounds.

If you are fortunate enough to get accepted at one of the three schools you are wait-listed at, I hope that you are humbled enough to take the acceptance and get on with your life.

lol. eligibility restriction #1 on HMS secondary:
"Candidates are considered for admission a maximum of two application cycles. Applications from individuals who have already made two previous application attempts will be rejected. Incomplete application attempts count towards the two time maximum."