May be 80% 🙂. Anyway, I am not complaining. Also difference is $200k 🙂What difference? 71%?
I know you are stubborn and don't like to concede points, but you have to admit, with 70% T10 IIs (and counting) there really is nowhere else to go. You have to admit I am right here. The alternative would be saying one or two possible additional interviews (not acceptances) is worth $300K in some universe that you occupy all by yourself. 😎
In this universe, your kid is my Exhibit A for excellence revealing itself and being rewarded accordingly, wherever it is found.
Yeah, but if I use ORM parent math and compound that at 8% for 30 years, it's really over $2,000,000!
But you know I don't use that math otherwise he would have been a MS1.Yeah, but if I use ORM parent math and compound that at 8% for 30 years, it's really over $2,000,000!
I will PM you.
. There's also a very high chance you could get more as the weeks go on.You've been on SDN how long? Rock star is consistently defined over and over from 5he same list, None of which are ever taken alone within the whole of the application:
I believe the teaching mentioned can be extended beyond that of just entitlement. It also can include Expectations. Some elite candidates can have five T20 IIs and acceptances and wonder why they didn't get II from the other T10s. Obviously no red flags nor weak application. Most T10/20 med schools also have significant overlap in their mission statement. So how does one explain this? I believe the answer falls under that randomness category and who and how your app was reviewed, and also the behind the scenes Shaping of the class (m/female, trade/nontraditional, urm/orm, ses etc etc) that are independent of the strength of ones application yet has direct individual impact on its success way beyond the applicants control.
You can search SDN for how Admissions committees ranks and score UG competitiveness. It is pretty much negligible (like 0.5/100). Not much different for Major/degree. (the magnitude is from memory from last cycle)
Are you placing too much faith in your son's schools premed advisor?
There are actually a lot more practical metrics that go into UG ranking than med school ranking for usnwr. None the less, it's a starting point and needs individual subjectivity for both cases.
And now that your son Is having the med application success, would you still support taking Harvard Stanford over the T20 w/ scholarship? Seems silly to me, especially since T20+merit and not T60+Merit.
Gold, silver and bronze stars. ;-)
That's $200k plus 8 years of deferred interest accumulation (4medschool and 4 residency).
Interezting, my question was directed at @Goro specifically but he chose not to answer but you answered. I remember him saying research and highest stats don't make you rock star. Didn't he actually say 4.0/524s are dime a dozen?
I am not. I helped my son to come up with school list and then he posted in WAMC and consulted premed advisor. We went with premed advisor who was an addcom at a T20 medical before. So far he is getting IIs as they expected. We never used them for course recommendations. He consulted his seniors and takes my input.
Yes, I would have still gone with Harvard or Stanford. You get to go to college once and there were no loans involved.
There Are no loans. We only take home mortgages. We spend according to our priorities, so our cars last 15 years and we pack our own lunch, no starbucks every day etc. I started 529 plan when he was born.
Isn't Goldwater meant for those that are planning to apply for Ph.D. or MD/Ph.D? Since he wasn't planning to go that route he didn't apply.
It has to be geniune though. I think that that's what @srk1970 was saying.
I agree with @Dr.K124 on this.
I'm not sure where you are getting this from. Entitlement is entitlement.
One can say the same about your quick judgment of others. In these situations, it's best to not cast the first stone. Applying to medical school is stressful, especially during this cycle with the increased competitiveness of the applicant pool due to COVID-19. A little understanding and empathy goes a long way. Just my thoughts.
Only takes one acceptance to become a physician
Thats amazing
That question is impossible to answer. What the evaluator and adcom are looking for is information on the suitability for the applicant to be a physician. For most LOE writers that would mean focusing characteristics and experiences that would make the applicant successful in medical school. That could be via an in-depth discussion of a few experiences the writer has had with the applicant or could be shown via the preponderance of multiple activities. In either case, the writer should discuss the applicant's personal traits, behaviors, and skills (ie competencies) that are outlines in the AAMC Writer's Guide (attached)
A letter writer’s purpose it to evaluate you and had nothing to do with confirming any activities on EC. That ridiculous myth persists and whoever told you that requires a cranial-rectalectomy. Unfortunately that appears to be endemic across this population and may not be covered as a pre-existing condition
Instead of wasting time seeking validation from strangers on forums, time should and could be better spent preparing and turning the "few" interviews they were lucky enough to receive into acceptances to avoid being a re applicant. No point in stressing over hypotheticals, Just my honest opinion.
I think what @Dr.K124 is trying to say is that, beyond whatever it is that schools are looking for, additional EC hours have a minimal incremental return. If this were not the case, no traditional applicant would be viable, since there are only so many hours in 3 UG years as compared to the unlimited amount of time available in an undefined number of gap years.
