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Hi guys,
I am a 3rd year med student who really likes outpatient medicine, and is highly considering family medicine. What gets me down is hearing the huge amount of paperwork that is somehow more unique to primary care. However, there may be hope as I hear conflicting things on the amount of bureaucracy/paperwork/pre-authorizations/ traditional primary care jobs have (not DPC, solo practice, concierge medicine) on this thread.
Some have mentioned that they only spend 30 mins after the office is closed on paperwork and never bring home any paperwork, while others have said that they spend 3 hours or more each day after hours. Given that dealing with paperwork seems to be the root of burnout in primary care, I would like to know if there are currently solutions out there so that I at least have the hope of looking forward to a fulfilling career focusing mainly on my patients. I'd like to work hard during the 8-5pm office hours, be efficient with documentation, but then not take home work with me/ to spend that time with family. Thus, I wanted to get a realistic idea of what I will be faced with and if it's possible (without waiting for the healthcare system to change) to get paperwork done in less than an hour each day before leaving the office, and if so, HOW.
Would like to hear from current practicing family physicians in different models (traditional 8-5 outpatient only vs academic teaching vs inpatient & outpatient). I know that urgent care doesn't have any paperwork haha
1) How many hours OUTSIDE OF WORKING HOURS DAILY you spend on paperwork including charting, phone calls, pre-authorizations, billing
2) How many patients you see on an average day and in what kind of model/setting
3) What solutions do you have to cut down on this time (do you use a dictation system like Dragon? Create templates in EHR? A in-person scribe? A remote google glasses scribe?)
4) is it difficult to find practices where there are people (like medical assistants? pharmacists?) who do some of the paperwork (billing/ pre-authorizations) so that it lessens the burden on you? What do you look for in job offers (ie support staff? did you ask about these things when you considered your job?)
Thank you so much!!
I am a 3rd year med student who really likes outpatient medicine, and is highly considering family medicine. What gets me down is hearing the huge amount of paperwork that is somehow more unique to primary care. However, there may be hope as I hear conflicting things on the amount of bureaucracy/paperwork/pre-authorizations/ traditional primary care jobs have (not DPC, solo practice, concierge medicine) on this thread.
Some have mentioned that they only spend 30 mins after the office is closed on paperwork and never bring home any paperwork, while others have said that they spend 3 hours or more each day after hours. Given that dealing with paperwork seems to be the root of burnout in primary care, I would like to know if there are currently solutions out there so that I at least have the hope of looking forward to a fulfilling career focusing mainly on my patients. I'd like to work hard during the 8-5pm office hours, be efficient with documentation, but then not take home work with me/ to spend that time with family. Thus, I wanted to get a realistic idea of what I will be faced with and if it's possible (without waiting for the healthcare system to change) to get paperwork done in less than an hour each day before leaving the office, and if so, HOW.
Would like to hear from current practicing family physicians in different models (traditional 8-5 outpatient only vs academic teaching vs inpatient & outpatient). I know that urgent care doesn't have any paperwork haha
1) How many hours OUTSIDE OF WORKING HOURS DAILY you spend on paperwork including charting, phone calls, pre-authorizations, billing
2) How many patients you see on an average day and in what kind of model/setting
3) What solutions do you have to cut down on this time (do you use a dictation system like Dragon? Create templates in EHR? A in-person scribe? A remote google glasses scribe?)
4) is it difficult to find practices where there are people (like medical assistants? pharmacists?) who do some of the paperwork (billing/ pre-authorizations) so that it lessens the burden on you? What do you look for in job offers (ie support staff? did you ask about these things when you considered your job?)
Thank you so much!!
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