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IlDestriero said:
At least it's coherent. And I stand by what I said. Very very few college classes demand that level of commitment.
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Ha, well I'm doing what I need to and trying to supplement it to do well.
Yes, not all classes get 2 hours, but some get more.

And, you're wrong. I know many smart people who study 4+ hours of day for Orgo alone.

And by "studying", I mean homework as well. Papers, webassign, etc.
 
PurpleLove said:
Haha, sure it is. You must have just not had hard classes to begin with.
I've seen postbaccs studying their material next to me in the library. Didn't seem too hard.
Many people fail out off community college too, doesn't mean the classes are hard.
Few fail classes here, yet it's hard as hell.
Try again.
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I don't understand how you can degrade the quality of the material those next to you are studying while you're sitting with a 3.1
 
Boolean said:
I don't understand how you can degrade the quality of the material those next to you are studying while you're sitting with a 3.1
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Nearly 3.3
Because we were studying for the same final for the same class. Unless she was studying for the same class somewhere else.
 
PurpleLove said:
Haha, sure it is. You must have just not had hard classes to begin with.
I've seen postbaccs studying their material next to me in the library. Didn't seem too hard.
Many people fail out off community college too, doesn't mean the classes are hard.
Few fail classes here, yet it's hard as hell.
Try again.
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PurpleLove said:
Nearly 3.3
Because we were studying for the same final for the same class. Unless she was studying for the same class somewhere else.
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Now you're speaking in circles.
 
Boolean said:
Now you're speaking in circles.
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Uhm... no. We were both studying for a Chem XXX class, but when I noticed she looked significantly older and her material was different, I realized she was a post-bacc (different class of students).
 
And you seriously think people with 2.7 sGPAs that get a postbacc suddenly became geniuses overnight and managed 4.0 in post-bacc programs, okay. Sure, why not?
 
Agent B said:
Same class but different exams?
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Different professors too...
Yeah, same class as in Chem XXX but an entirely different class of students, professors, material, etc.
 
That's why I seriously don't understand why it's looked down at to take CC/easier classes now. Either way, you're paying for easy As.
 
Agent B said:
So there's a postbacc-only version of Chem XXX and that class was easier?
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I don't know if it was easier. I'm just saying schools wouldn't have postbacc programs that are advertised on buses and this site if it was hard.
 
PurpleLove said:
And you seriously think people with 2.7 sGPAs that get a postbacc suddenly became geniuses overnight and managed 4.0 in post-bacc programs, okay. Sure, why not?
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You're right. People are just as mature and competent as they were when they started college at 18. They totally knew what they wanted to do with their lives and absolutely devoted themselves to academics.

People grow, interests change, directions change. It takes some people until their 30s to know medicine is what they want and they migjt not be academically prepared until that age. Then they succeed.
 
Alright. So, I could probably come up with a million ways to say how you're wrong, but I'll let this image do it for me.
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Getting groceries now (yay, ramen!)
Hopefully I'll get to come back to some excitement.
@Agent B and @IlDestriero, hold down the fort while I'm gone.
 
Lucca said:
You're right. People are just as mature and competent as they were when they started college at 18. They totally knew what they wanted to do with their lives and absolutely devoted themselves to academics.

People grow, interests change, directions change. It takes some people until their 30s to know medicine is what they want and they migjt not be academically prepared until that age. Then they succeed.
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Interview answer.
 
Even so, postbaccs do not deflate at all. They probably inflate.
 
PurpleLove said:
Haha, sure it is. You must have just not had hard classes to begin with.
I've seen postbaccs studying their material next to me in the library. Didn't seem too hard.
Many people fail out off community college too, doesn't mean the classes are hard.
Few fail classes here, yet it's hard as hell.
Try again.
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You have no idea the strength of classes I've had.

The post bacs take the same classes as the people in UG...same material....same everything.

If you're doing poorly now as an UG, you're not going to be doing any better classified as a post bac.

You can tell yourself that its easy if it makes you feel better though.
 
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JT3 said:
Check out Georgetown's SMP

http://smp.georgetown.edu/

Basically seeing if you can handle medical school coursework, for a steep price...
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And these type of programs boast a "90 percent" admittance for all premeds. That's honestly cray to me. Basically paying to get into medical school.
I wouldn't pay 50k for a guaranteed acceptance though. 🙁
 
I hired private tutoring to get the help I needed in classes I didn't understand or studied wrong for
and I applied to many scholarships to get the funding to pay for said private tutoring

sometimes you are your own worst enemy and you actually don't study efficiently for these "harder" classes
get someone to teach you how to do it right
 
BamaNicole said:
You have no idea the strength of classes I've had.

The post bacs take the same classes as the people in UG...same material....same everything.

If you're doing poorly now as an UG, you're not going to be doing any better classified as a post bac.
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Ha, well I'll let you know if I do a post bacc, though I highly doubt it. My GPA is too good/will get better. Maybe an SMP but that's too pricey. So, I want to take some CC classes.
 
dieanotherday said:
I hired private tutoring to get the help I needed in classes I didn't understand or studied wrong for
and I applied to many scholarships to get the funding to pay for said private tutoring

sometimes you are your own worst enemy and you actually don't study efficiently for these "harder" classes
get someone to teach you how to do it right
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Did I mention I am the top of the premed classes I take? I have done just fine as a premed here.
 
PurpleLove said:
And these type of programs boast a "90 percent" admittance for all premeds. That's honestly cray to me. Basically paying to get into medical school.
I wouldn't pay 50k for a guaranteed acceptance though. 🙁
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90% eventually, they take a chunk directly into Georgetown SOM, some students go elsewhere aka lower tier, DO, etc, some even ship off internationally (theres a list that shows where the students end up). Had a buddy who went to a DO school from there. May not be the best, but hey he'll be a doctor in 4 years.

Some of them can be crap, some are good just depends on the program.
 
JT3 said:
90% eventually, they take a chunk directly into Georgetown SOM, some students go elsewhere aka lower tier, DO, etc, some even ship off internationally (theres a list that shows where the students end up). Had a buddy who went to a DO school from there. May not be the best, but hey he'll be a doctor in 4 years.

Some of them can be crap, some are good just depends on the program.
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Wouldn't it just be better to do a PhD?
 
PurpleLove said:
B+s. I got As in my non-Science classes and B+s in my science ones.
Classes are curved to a B-/C+. Therefore I am doing better than the average.
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So you're not top of the class
Top of the class usually gets As
 
There is always USUHS,

http://www.usuhs.mil/

It surprisingly has a mix of elite students. Someone with an MCAT of 41 from last year. Lower-tier students too. Its all free, with a fat sign on bonus, and $2100 a month. Residents get paid back and basically choose their speciality, Step 1 averages over 230. However your stuck with active duty that equals med school + residency, and some serious reserve time.
 
PurpleLove said:
Wouldn't it just be better to do a PhD?
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Its 4-6 years living on a 30k stipend, post doc for 4-6 years for about a 35k stipend, all to have trouble finding a job. If you love research or have a desire to teach all the power to ya. Being a medical doctor is an incredibly oppertunity, from a career perspective you get great job security and WILL be able to pay your bills no matter how much debt you incure.

I work with Bioengineering Post-docs in a radiology lab, I use to have thoughts of pursuing a PhD; lets just say those thoughts are non-existent after seeing their career outlook.
 
JT3 said:
Its 4-6 years living on a 30k stipend, post doc for 4-6 years for about a 35k stipend, all to have trouble finding a job. If you love research or have a desire to teach all the power to ya. Being a medical doctor is an incredibly oppertunity, from a career perspective you get great job security and WILL be able to pay your bills no matter how much debt you incure.

I work with Bioengineering Post-docs in a radiology lab, I use to have thoughts of pursuing a PhD; lets just say those thoughts are non-existent after seeing their career outlook.
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Wouldn't having my PhD prove to medical schools that I'm more than qualified?
I do like research, just not enough to make a career out of it. Not passionate about it.
 
PurpleLove said:
Wouldn't having my PhD prove to medical schools that I'm more than qualified?
I do like research, just not enough to make a career out of it. Not passionate about it.
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If your end goal is MD, 4-6 years is a long time to get a PhD then go back through the MD application process. If your not passionate about research you might not want to get a PhD. If you change your mind you can always apply internally once you are IN medical school. An MD/PhD program takes a lot longer but you get a 30k stipend the whole time and don't pay tuition. Applying to an MD/PhD right away could be difficult because of how competitive they are.

You still have two years of undergrad, if your as smart as you say... worst case scenario you pre-reqs are Bs and you supplement your GPA with easier classes/an easy minor. With a good MCAT you'll be golden; as long as you have some ECs to back you up. A gap year to expand your ECs is not a bad thing, might even give you some time to relax if your studying twice as long as your in class for.
 
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