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Boolean said:
I'm not saying it isn't. I'm saying you cannot enroll elsewhere without permission from the university. If you could do this, you could be an MIT student graduating with an MIT degree taking courses at a community college. Sure, you can enroll elsewhere. That said, your institution is going to ask why you cannot take your prerequisite class at their institution, and medical schools will ask the same. If you say for finical reasons, that is good and well and all, except if it were for financial reasons, having the cost to apply and enroll in a different institution on top of your current one would seem highly unlikely.
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I would be retaking prereq classes and taking other upper div classes.
 
kingjameslbj said:
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OH and you have a 3.15 sGPA, if that's at a top school, you should be JOINING my argument. If not, good luck. HAHAHA.
 
PurpleLove said:
LOL, you're truly a *******. You seem like some thug who probably goes to a non-ranked horrible state school? Am I correct?

Does pre-health mean pre-CNA for you?
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I didn't know thugs go to college, thanks for the info. Sweetheart, i worked 2 full time jobs to pay for college and was admitted to a top 10 law school because of my LSAT score. Mommy and daddy don't pay for my education like you. Try harder.
 
PurpleLove said:
She, genius.
B+
I'm sure you attend a great institution without the ability to even look at my aviator gender thing.

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Oh you get As and Bs at a state school. I get B+'s HERE. The end.
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Boolean said:
Fairly certain OP is a she, not trying to bash your post at all though. I am hoping that OP is genuinely not a troll and that there is someone under that trollish exterior that actually does need advice (see: not knowing about transient coursework).
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me too, but JESUS is the continuous arguments and insults necessary? and excuse the gender mistakes, I did not take the time to look. I am willing to help as much as the next guy, but continuously ranting and raving and insulting those who try to offer advice does not make it look like she wants help. Also I do not see much we could tell her to do, she cant/not willing transfer, the classes are too hard, school does not accept outside credits. The only advice I can give is study harder, seek a tutor, or continue on the path and hope post-baccalaureate/ SMP or masters program is enough because regardless of a B average from a state school, comm. college, or Ivy League/private school a B average is not good enough for MD programs.
 
@PurpleLove just transfer to your state school, then you won't feel like you're wasting another 120K at least..
 
Dr. Biology said:
me too, but JESUS is the continuous arguments and insults necessary? and excuse the gender mistakes, I did not take the time to look. I am willing to help as much as the next guy, but continuously ranting and raving and insulting those who try to offer advice does not make it look like she wants help. Also I do not see much we could tell her to do, she cant/not willing transfer, the classes are too hard, school does not accept outside credits. The only advice I can give is study harder, seek a tutor, or continue on the path and hope post-baccalaureate/ SMP or masters program is enough because regardless of a B average from a state school, comm. college, or Ivy League/private school a B average is not good enough for MD programs.
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Agreed, but I can understand why they may be acting this way. Siphoning a lot of money into an education to watch it fall apart because they simply cannot compete with the caliber of students around them isn't too surprising. It happens more often than we would like to admit. I'm sure a bit of neurosis is to be expected, but perhaps not to their level.
 
PurpleLove said:
The reason our school makes exams so hard? Because if they gave us those kind^, we'd all have As and there would be no distribution of grades because we're smarter.
The reason easy schools give those kinds of exams. Because if they didn't, many would fail.
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Can you post one of your exams now?

Either way, general chemistry is "do you even lift?" level.

Though, if I go along with you and is but one example you're trying to exemplify, than fine; but, please share the evidence of your premise between your test and your friend's (we've seen the friend's).

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And just out of curiosity, question one:
Do you think everyone on here is wrong, and you're the sole enlightened one about possible grade inflation? -- People have acknowledged this possibility, but have parried with the fact that the MCAT exists. The MCAT is a way to put all applicants on the same page (normalization). The point of an imbalanced high GPA low MCAT was already brought up. People have said this multiple times.

A. No one but I (Purplelove), including adcoms, has an idea about possible institutional grade differences. And, until I (Purplelove) brought the subject up there was probably never a way developed to "test" for this fact.
B. I (Purplelove) purposely ignored the counter evidence.
C. I (Purplelove) have never applied to medical school, so I (Purplelove) have no idea what I'm talking about.
D. I (Purplelove) unwittingly ignored the counter evidence.

Question two:
Are there people in your classes who are premed who are doing well, and why aren't you? If so, and if you feel you can't perform despite working your best maybe HS has lulled you into the idea that any of your HS exceptional-ism would transfer over to an exceptional institution.

A. They did well, but its because they're geniuses. They did better not because they work harder than me (Purplelove), I'm the hardest worker in the land, it was a genetic disposition.
B. I (Purplelove) should of studied more.
C. They did well, but its because they're geniuses. They did better not because they work harder than me (Purplelove), I'm the hardest worker in the land, they had some secret weapon I didn't.
D. They all struggle, like me, and we all bemoan our fate. We did poorly because the professor needs to make sure not everyone gets As.

Question three (Essay prompt):
What could we possibly say to assuage your self esteem issues?
 
Dr. Biology said:
me too, but JESUS is the continuous arguments and insults necessary? and excuse the gender mistakes, I did not take the time to look. I am willing to help as much as the next guy, but continuously ranting and raving and insulting those who try to offer advice does not make it look like she wants help. Also I do not see much we could tell her to do, she cant/not willing transfer, the classes are too hard, school does not accept outside credits. The only advice I can give is study harder, seek a tutor, or continue on the path and hope post-baccalaureate/ SMP or masters program is enough because regardless of a B average from a state school, comm. college, or Ivy League/private school a B average is not good enough for MD programs.
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Right... remember when you said you're just naturally good at Chemistry with your hour of studying? Please, you don't know what hard exams ARE.

Several of my peers from UChicago have PM'ed me saying not to post on SDN anymore as no one understands the pains of knowing more and working harder to not get into medical school.
 
OP, what's your home state if you don't mind sharing?

edit: sorry hopelessgirl, didn'y mean to quote you!
 
ruedjgtc said:
Can you post one of your exams now?

Either way, general chemistry is "do you even lift?" level.

Though, if I go along with you and is but one example you're trying to exemplify, than fine; but, please share the evidence of your premise between your test and your friend's (we've seen the friend's).

Optional section
And just out of curiosity, question one:
Do you think everyone on here is wrong, and you're the sole enlightened one about possible grade inflation? -- People have acknowledged this possibility, but have parried with the fact that the MCAT exists. The MCAT is a way to put all applicants on the same page (normalization). The point of an imbalanced high GPA low MCAT was already brought up. People have said this multiple times.

A. No one but I (Purplelove), including adcoms, has an idea about possible institutional grade differences. And, until I (Purplelove) brought the subject up there was probably never a way developed to "test" for this fact.
B. I (Purplelove) purposely ignored the counter evidence.
C. I (Purplelove) have never applied to medical school, so I (Purplelove) have no idea what I'm talking about.
D. I (Purplelove) unwittingly ignored the counter evidence.

Question two:
Are there people in your classes who are premed who are doing well, and why aren't you? If so, and if you feel you can't perform despite working your best maybe HS has lulled you into the idea that any of your HS exceptional-ism would transfer over to an exceptional institution.

A. They did well, but its because they're geniuses. They did better not because they work harder than me (Purplelove), I'm the hardest worker in the land, it was a genetic disposition.
B. I (Purplelove) should of studied more.
C. They did well, but its because they're geniuses. They did better not because they work harder than me (Purplelove), I'm the hardest worker in the land, they had some secret weapon I didn't.
D. They all struggle, like me, and we all bemoan our fate. We did poorly because the professor needs to make sure not everyone gets As.

Question three (Essay prompt):
What could we possibly say to assuage your self esteem issues?
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TLDR, but my experience at UChicago is that studying makes an impact, to a point. I don't know about Hopkins.
 
HopelessGirl said:
TLDR, but my experience at UChicago is that studying makes an impact, to a point. I don't know about Hopkins.
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Studying makes an impact everywhere. It may be less noticeable if practiced acutely, but chronic studying most certainly pays off in the long-run 🙂
 
PurpleLove said:
OH and you have a 3.15 sGPA, if that's at a top school, you should be JOINING my argument. If not, good luck. HAHAHA.
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Best I can find, he's got a 3.3, which is higher than yours. Looking over his app, he'll probably actually be going to med school, if he can knock out his prereqs with an A- or better in each. You're hating on a lot of people that are farther along in the process than you, more willing to sacrifice you, and more tenacious than you. Come back and complain when you ace your MCAT and get your acceptance. We'll be waiting, and dreading to hear that you were accepted to one of our medical schools no doubt.
 
Boolean said:
Studying makes an impact everywhere. It may be less noticeable if practiced acutely, but chronic studying most certainly pays off in the long-run 🙂
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Not unless you're great at conceptual thinking. Some exams are literally a brain workout, they're not as simple as the ones that OP posted, which isn't a CC, it's a state school.
 
HopelessGirl said:
TLDR, but my experience at UChicago is that studying makes an impact, to a point. I don't know about Hopkins.
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As a tutor (premed), having helped organize Stanford's Organic Chemistry tutoring program I'd counter with "only perfect studying makes an impact". There isn't a 1:1 correlation between studying and performance, there is a reason for this. I think too many undergrads falsely assume work will yield rewards. This is a wake up call while studying for the MCAT for most, especially those who don't pony up for prep courses.
 
Mad Jack said:
Best I can find, he's got a 3.3, which is higher than yours. Looking over his app, he'll probably actually be going to med school, if he can knock out his prereqs with an A- or better in each. You're hating on a lot of people that are farther along in the process than you, more willing to sacrifice you, and more tenacious than you. Come back and complain when you ace your MCAT and get your acceptance. We'll be waiting, and dreading to hear that you were accepted to one of our medical schools no doubt.
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I saw a 3.15 if you take into account HIS F in Calculus.
 
HopelessGirl said:
Not unless you're great at conceptual thinking. Some exams are literally a brain workout, they're not as simple as the ones that OP posted, which isn't a CC, it's a state school.
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Conceptual thinking is vital in life though. No matter what you do, you'll benefit if you're great at conceptual thinking. Most (maybe one or two classes aren't this way) of my coursework so far is highly conceptual. I still feel studying has a massive benefit.
 
ruedjgtc said:
As a tutor (premed), having helped organize Stanford's Organic Chemistry tutoring program I'd counter with "only perfect studying makes an impact". There isn't a 1:1 correlation between studying and performance, there is a reason for this. I think too many undergrads falsely assume work will yield rewards. This is a wake up call while studying for the MCAT for most, especially those who don't pony up for prep courses.
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Oh please. But, I am after all just a sophomore. I'll let you know how hard the MCAT is for me next year.
 
Boolean said:
Conceptual thinking is vital in life though. No matter what you do, you'll benefit if you're great at conceptual thinking. Most (maybe one or two classes aren't this way) of my coursework so far is highly conceptual. I still feel studying has a massive benefit.
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How does studying make a difference? You know the Biology book cover to cover and do any homework that may help. The exam is ridiculous. How can studying possibly help?
 
HopelessGirl said:
Right... remember when you said you're just naturally good at Chemistry with your hour of studying? Please, you don't know what hard exams ARE.

Several of my peers from UChicago have PM'ed me saying not to post on SDN anymore as no one understands the pains of knowing more and working harder to not get into medical school.
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are you cyber stalking me?
 
PurpleLove said:
How does studying make a difference? You know the Biology book cover to cover and do any homework that may help. The exam is ridiculous. How can studying possibly help?
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You do realize you are asking how does studying help, yes?
I think it kinda goes without saying.
There are countless journals and an entire academic community that will agree with me when I say studying helps.
 
PurpleLove said:
I saw a 3.15 if you take into account HIS F in Calculus.
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It was a 6 week online class and i missed the drop deadline, never completed the course. Try harder.

If you spent this much time and effort you wouldn't be whining. See you at MD school, oh wait NOT.
 
Boolean said:
You do realize you are asking how does studying help, yes?
I think it kinda goes without saying.
There are countless journals and an entire academic community that will agree with me when I say studying helps.
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It helps if the exam asks you to regurgitate what you know. After that, it's a battle between the great minds and the weak minds.

My friend from China wouldn't even read the Bio book because the exams were so conceptual. He just paid attention in class and did great.
Me, I had to do all the readings, know the material backwards and forwards. Apply it in my head and still do worse than him.
 
kingjameslbj said:
It was a 6 week online class and i missed the drop deadline, never completed the course. Try harder.

If you spent this much time and effort you wouldn't be whining. See you at MD school, oh wait NOT.
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Ha okay. I have a 3.3 with like 12 more Science classes to go. You're pre-CNA, bye bye.
 
ruedjgtc said:
You can "oh please me" all you want my sophomoric friend.
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Why is the MCAT average for my school so high? Because we knew how to study with our tough classes or that we are just smarter? Either way, I should be fine there.
 
PurpleLove said:
Why is the MCAT average for my school so high? Because we knew how to study with our tough classes or that we are just smarter? Either way, I should be fine there.
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Then what the fack is the problem? If you're smart you don't need to make a thread about worrying, nor post on and on about your ranking school. Just take the damn test, and show your lowly "friends" how much better you are than their lower ranked schools. Though, if they knew you spoke about them like you do now here they'd likely not be your friends.

Choosing to stay anonymous was a wise decision -- stick with that, I don't think you want these posts following you around later if you make it into medical school.

PS still awaiting your test, so we can see how hard it is at your college. It may be so hard as to shut everyone up, so just post it already.
 
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HopelessGirl said:
What does it mean? Gosh, I wish I went to Loyola for UG.
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No, I was there for a medschool interview (accepted). I'm from CA, we don't make such a strong distinction about suburbs or city, seemed like a Chicago thing to me haha.
 
Dr. Biology said:
:troll:
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I think you're doing a disservice to actual trolls who likely wouldn't believe in this dribble premise originally posted. The trolls would know it's BS, thus post it to incite rage, this person actually believes it. I would put this on par with global warming denial.
 
ruedjgtc said:
No, I was there for a medschool interview (accepted). I'm from CA, we don't make such a strong distinction about suburbs or city, seemed like a Chicago thing to me haha.
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Haha I go to Northwestern and we get very mad when someone says they're "from Chicago" when they're really like 2 hours away.

Congratulations!
 
Kochanie said:
Haha I go to Northwestern and we get very mad when someone says they're "from Chicago" when they're really like 2 hours away.

Congratulations!
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Thanks! Yeah, went to a bar and got the whole "burbs" versus "city" talk.

You don't even want to hear how much people stretch the meaning of the OC here haha.

BTW, in the end it's looking like BU, loved it.
 
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