How is it fair....

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What advice? DO DO DO DO DO DO?

That's legitimate advice considering you have a sub 3.6 gpa. Plus at a DO school with all of those "lesser" students you will easily top the class and match into the most competitive specialty you can! Isn't that what you've always wanted, you anti-intellectual, needlessly elitist, narrow, unremarkable, miserable person you? Be better than the small sample of people immediately around you?
 
@PurpleLove have you considered how much time you have spent in this thread alone...and other productive ways you could have used this time?
 
*Opens this thread*

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@PurpleLove have you considered how much time you have spent in this thread alone...and other productive ways you could have used this time?
It's spring break. What can I do? LOL. I''m about to go to Walmart though.
 
Well, this has been an awesome thread guys. I'm going to go study(which is what the OP should be doing) so I can get an 'A' on my finals. I can't wait to recheck this thread in the morning.
 
That's legitimate advice considering you have a sub 3.6 gpa. Plus at a DO school with all of those "lesser" students you will easily top the class and match into the most competitive specialty you can! Isn't that what you've always wanted, you anti-intellectual, needlessly elitist, narrow, unremarkable, miserable person you? Be better than the small sample of people immediately around you?
No, I like school names too. 😉
 
Well, this has been an awesome thread guys. I'm going to go study(which is what the OP should be doing) so I can get an 'A' on my finals. I can't wait to recheck this thread in the morning.
You go to quarter system school?
 
Damn purplelove you did well in blowing up this thread
 
It's spring break. What can I do? LOL. I''m about to go to Walmart though.

More than complain on a forum. You can always go to a classy place like Wal-Mart. It's spring break, enjoy the week, do whatever you usually do for fun!
 
More than complain on a forum. You can always go to a classy place like Wal-Mart. It's spring break, enjoy the week, do whatever you usually do for fun!
What is this fun you speak of? Nope, I study most of the time, even though I need to work harder. 😀
 
Shame because that top 10 train has sailed for you buddy. But not because of the GPA. It's just you.
Already on it, will stay on it. Gotta make some connections.
 
Why? All you did is motivate me to go to a school like my school's medical school. Jeez, using names would be easier.
Damn I got trolled pretty hard this thread.
 
Why? All you did is motivate me to go to a school like my school's medical school. Jeez, using names would be easier.

You don't go to CalTech because that doesn't have a med school.
You don't go to Harvard because you have a 3.4.
You don't go to Yale because you have a 3.4.
You don't go to Princeton because it doesn't have a medical school.
You don't go to MIT because it doesn't have a medical school.

You might go to Stanford but you don't because you're not even a real person.
 
We work so hard to get into top schools so we can be beat by those who don't do ****? Lol, that's not unfair that's absurd.

Cry me a river... then build a bridge and get over it.

Nice job demonstrating the real reason a school wouldn't want you as a student. (Hint: it's not your B-average.)
 
I sympathize with the OP. I went to a tough undergrad and got crap grades. It's actually known for grade inflation, but that is largely not in the science classes.

But luckily the MCAT is there to help! From my cycle, I think a low gpa at a top school plus a good MCAT can still result in admissions to a lot of good medical schools.
 
LOL as if she would be premed, she's smart enough to know better. She herself says the CC is a joke. By the way, I live a block away from said CC, have taken classes there, and my brother went there and then a ridiculously easy state school. <- I'm jealous.
What in the world is your point?
She's going to CC but not going to med school and you are jealous of her grades? Go - transfer to CC and don't bother with MD.

You say you will just stick with phD (over DO) but then you say "nah I'll just go for MD"... Can you make up your mind? You aren't in high school anymore.

Change the things you can change, accept the things you can't change, and grow some wisdom to know the difference. Get out of SDN until you have the maturity of at least a 12 year old. All I see from OP is the following:

WHINE WHINE WHINE WHINE WOE ME WHINE WHINE WHINE WOE ME WHINE WHINE WHINE
 
You don't go to CalTech because that doesn't have a med school.
You don't go to Harvard because you have a 3.4.
You don't go to Yale because you have a 3.4.
You don't go to Princeton because it doesn't have a medical school.
You don't go to MIT because it doesn't have a medical school.

You might go to Stanford but you don't because you're not even a real person.

I thought we already knew what school OP goes too.. or have i just been assuming
 
Cry me a river... then build a bridge and get over it.

Nice job demonstrating the real reason a school wouldn't want you as a student. (Hint: it's not your B-average.)
B+. I just had legitimate questions... You think other premeds here aren't confused too?
 
What in the world is your point?
She's going to CC but not going to med school and you are jealous of her grades? Go - transfer to CC and don't bother with MD.

You say you will just stick with phD (over DO) but then you say "nah I'll just go for MD"... Can you make up your mind? You aren't in high school anymore.

Change the things you can change, accept the things you can't change, and grow some wisdom to know the difference. Get out of SDN until you have the maturity of at least a 12 year old. All I see from OP is the following:

WHINE WHINE WHINE WHINE WOE ME WHINE WHINE WHINE WOE ME WHINE WHINE WHINE
I'm applying to both... If I went to CC, I'd still shoot for medical school, why the hell now. I think 1 year here/1 there is much stronger than 2 at a CC.
 
Also, I don't understand why people are constantly defending DO schools on SDN, yet trash Caribbean schools left and right.

Judging from objective stats, students at both schools are academically inferior to MD students. So what's up with all the DO love?
 
Also, I don't understand why people are constantly defending DO schools on SDN, yet trash Caribbean schools left and right.

Judging from objective stats, students at both schools are academically inferior to MD students. So what's up with all the DO love?
Because DO students are much better off in the match process than Caribbean grads who are considered IMGs.
 
Also, I don't understand why people are constantly defending DO schools on SDN, yet trash Caribbean schools left and right.

Judging from objective stats, students at both schools are academically inferior to MD students. So what's up with all the DO love?

DO schools actually invest in their students' success so they can match and enter the field of medicine as competent physicians. The Carib does the same thing....for a very small population of its students after actively driving hordes of them into failure and hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt while simultaneously locking them up on an island away from the country they are supposed to be serving.
 
I'm applying to both... If I went to CC, I'd still shoot for medical school, why the hell now. I think 1 year here/1 there is much stronger than 2 at a CC.
What are you complaining about? I'd have a "LITTLE" compassion if your friend who went to CC got into MD school and you didn't - but that's not the case.

How about you feel sorry for some CC student who will end up working as a manager at some mcDonalds... ? Stop this self pity.
 
Every imagine some students go to CC because they cant afford a university????? I know i did. Worked full time 2 jobs to transfer to a 4 year and finish my degree. Not because im stupid.
 
Also, I don't understand why people are constantly defending DO schools on SDN, yet trash Caribbean schools left and right.

Judging from objective stats, students at both schools are academically inferior to MD students. So what's up with all the DO love?

Is this real life?
 
You guys got trolled for six pages worth. If OP was at a top school, he would be dumping on the easy A's at state U.

It used to be and still is the Princeton/Chicago/JHU kids complaining about going to an easier no name state school. Now it's the no-name school kid downshifting to CC's.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
 
I'm guessing you don't have a lot of black friends.

Ah Touchpause, we meet again. I actually am from Los Angeles with my plethora of races for friends. However, due to recent events, even the liberal folk in LA aren't too fond of our president right now.

OP on the other hand is lost cause and I am glad they won't be a physician taking care of our loved ones.
 
OP the troll has a legit point imo. MCAT is not enough to make up for the GPA discrepancy in some cases.
 
OP the troll has a legit point imo. MCAT is not enough to make up for the GPA discrepancy in some cases.
Thank you, as if a premed couldn't study for it during their 4 years at undergrad though many people I know didn't do that and did horribly. If you can't even pull a 20 with the school you go to with or without studying, that says a lot.

Entrance tests would probably me more telling, one you can't study for.

There has to be a reason, after all, that my schools average GPA is so low and the MCAT is so high for premed students, grade deflation vs. natural intelligence.

I'm sure, many other schools have it the other way around, high GPA and low MCAT even though I'd rather be in this position.
 
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You guys got trolled for six pages worth. If OP was at a top school, he would be dumping on the easy A's at state U.

It used to be and still is the Princeton/Chicago/JHU kids complaining about going to an easier no name state school. Now it's the no-name school kid downshifting to CC's.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
OMG you guessed my school. <3
 
Every imagine some students go to CC because they cant afford a university????? I know i did. Worked full time 2 jobs to transfer to a 4 year and finish my degree. Not because im stupid.
What was your SAT/ACT in high school?

Makes sense, I'm not saying everyone who attends CCs are stupid! JEEZUSSSS, I'm saying, many people at CC's who get As couldn't get As at many other schools, seriously how is that so hard to admit? Your tests are easier, it's easier to get A's, and your grades are inflated by curves, homework, and "extra credit".

My brother is way smarter than me and could do great if he applied himself in school. He went to a CC then state school because it was cheaper and he preferred to work, not study. But, I can tell you he never had to work hard... at all to maintain a B+/A- average and I bust my ass.
 
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1. MCAT. You should be taking your MCAT in about a year. You better get a 38+ if you're so frikkin smart. My group of pre-med friends all got a 34-37 at my lowly state school.

2. Extracurriculars are even more important than GPA. Top tier schools are top tier because they have more money, better faculty:student ratios, more opportunities, affiliations with many hospitals where students can volunteer, more research opportunities with bigger name labs, etc etc etc. This is why they're top tier and why they can pick the best of the best students. Community colleges have none of these. Hmm how is this fair?

3. In my experience, having a big name school behind you is a big plus on your application despite what SDN says. Top tier schools definitely take this into account.

Story time:

I went to a state school and I had very few IIs at top tier schools earlier this cycle. I started doing research at a top tier school for ~3 months and sent updates. All of a sudden 2/5 of the top tier schools I sent this update to invite me for interview. I attend the interview and 50% of the people there went to IVY LEAGUES. Another 30% went to places like Duke, Northwestern, UC Berkley etc (still top tier).

I had over a year and a half of research on my AMCAS with posters etc etc. Was this not enough? How was it that adding 3 months of research suddenly pushed it over to getting an invite? Oh right there was the big name behind it.

Story #2:

I emailed dozens of doctors from my school email account for shadowing. Rarely anyone responded. Gee I guess they just don't check their emails.

After getting the research gig from above, I also got an email account with the school. I email the same doctors. Bam shadowing gig after shadowing gig. They all assumed I went to the top tier school because of the email address even though it clearly said where I went in my resume. THEY SAID YES WITHOUT EVEN LOOKING AT MY RESUME
 
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I don't know if someone mentioned this, but that is what the MCAT is for. If they really know their stuff, then they will do well on the MCAT! If they are just superficially memorizing the material, then their MCAT score will reflect that.
 
1. MCAT. You should be taking your MCAT in about a year. You better get a 38+ if you're so frikkin smart. My group of pre-med friends all got a 34-37 at my lowly state school.

2. Extracurriculars are even more important than GPA. Top tier schools are top tier because they have more money, better faculty:student ratios, more opportunities, affiliations with many hospitals where students can volunteer, more research opportunities with bigger name labs, etc etc etc. This is why they're top tier and why they can pick the best of the best students. Community colleges have none of these. Hmm how is this fair?

3. In my experience, having a big name school behind you is a big plus on your application despite what SDN says. Top tier schools definitely take this into account.

Story time:

I went to a state school and I had very few IIs at top tier schools earlier this cycle. I started doing research at a top tier school for ~3 months and sent updates. All of a sudden 2/5 of the top tier schools I sent this update to invite me for interview. I attend the interview and 50% of the people there went to IVY LEAGUES. Another 30% went to places like Duke, Northwestern, UC Berkley etc (still top tier).

I had over a year and a half of research on my AMCAS with posters etc etc. Was this not enough? How was it that adding 3 months of research suddenly pushed it over to getting an invite? Oh right there was the big name behind it.

Story #2:

I emailed dozens of doctors from my school email account for shadowing. Rarely anyone responded. Gee I guess they just don't check their emails.

After getting the research gig from above, I also got an email account with the school. I email the same doctors. Bam shadowing gig after shadowing gig. They all assumed I went to the top tier school because of the email address even though it clearly said where I went in my resume. THEY SAID YES WITHOUT EVEN LOOKING AT MY RESUME
True, but lots of "interview" things I've had for within the school asked me my GPA and they were not impressed....

Thank you, but you're the only person that really admitted to there being an advantage.

It's seriously depressing when you spend so much time on a class and see no results because there will always be someone smarter.

Also, no I probably will be doing bad on the MCAT. I have no time to study for it. I'm sure if my classes didn't take up so much time or if I was naturally smart, I could study for it.
 
1. MCAT. You should be taking your MCAT in about a year. You better get a 38+ if you're so frikkin smart. My group of pre-med friends all got a 34-37 at my lowly state school.

2. Extracurriculars are even more important than GPA. Top tier schools are top tier because they have more money, better faculty:student ratios, more opportunities, affiliations with many hospitals where students can volunteer, more research opportunities with bigger name labs, etc etc etc. This is why they're top tier and why they can pick the best of the best students. Community colleges have none of these. Hmm how is this fair?

3. In my experience, having a big name school behind you is a big plus on your application despite what SDN says. Top tier schools definitely take this into account.

Story time:

I went to a state school and I had very few IIs at top tier schools earlier this cycle. I started doing research at a top tier school for ~3 months and sent updates. All of a sudden 2/5 of the top tier schools I sent this update to invite me for interview. I attend the interview and 50% of the people there went to IVY LEAGUES. Another 30% went to places like Duke, Northwestern, UC Berkley etc (still top tier).

I had over a year and a half of research on my AMCAS with posters etc etc. Was this not enough? How was it that adding 3 months of research suddenly pushed it over to getting an invite? Oh right there was the big name behind it.

Story #2:

I emailed dozens of doctors from my school email account for shadowing. Rarely anyone responded. Gee I guess they just don't check their emails.

After getting the research gig from above, I also got an email account with the school. I email the same doctors. Bam shadowing gig after shadowing gig. They all assumed I went to the top tier school because of the email address even though it clearly said where I went in my resume. THEY SAID YES WITHOUT EVEN LOOKING AT MY RESUME
One @stanford.edu email please <3
 
True, but lots of "interview" things I've had for within the school asked me my GPA and they were not impressed....

Thank you, but you're the only person that really admitted to there being an advantage.

It's seriously depressing when you spend so much time on a class and see no results because there will always be someone smarter.

Also, no I probably will be doing bad on the MCAT. I have no time to study for it. I'm sure if my classes didn't take up so much time or if I was naturally smart, I could study for it.
There is always time to study for the MCAT. If you can't find the time to study for it on top of your classes, you won't be able to handle the workload in medical school.
 
There is always time to study for the MCAT. If you can't find the time to study for it on top of your classes, you won't be able to handle the workload in medical school.
Right... It's not that I can't handle the workload. I can do the recommended homework and studying and do average, but I don't like average (2.7, no thanks).
 
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