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Day 4 Thoroughbred Thursday Lynch Tally

AM (9) - coffeebean, mutts, meats, cray, SAR, bryndi, cubs, snowy, skim
Kara (1) - mel
Mutts () -
Mel (1) - Kara
MJ () -
capri (1) - MJ
MSU (2) - killer, capri
Stagg (4) - Dubz, genny, AM, Weim

18/22 voting
@Animal Midwife you are in the lead!

Missing: some people who @SportPonies gets to tag b/c I am busy

Lynch close at 9pm CST (3 hours remaining)

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WildZoo said:
I'm still thinking on it, I just don't think I can share anything more right now. I wouldn't have moved off of AM if I wasn't sure she is not a wolf though, and that's not just from talking to her.
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I want to trust this, but you make it so hard to trust you when there's nothing else to go on.

WildZoo said:
Because it's not
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😡:lame:
 
WildZoo said:
I'm sorry, really, but it's way too early in the game to have the whole thing unravel.
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If her death will ruin it, yall arent doing a good job trying to convince us of whos actually a wolf. Id move back to Cray but it wouldnt matter if everyone else stays on AM
 
genny said:
That sounds like a wolf plot.

Does it unravel if AM is lynched today? Because that seems to be happening.
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No, it doesn't. I would prefer she's not lynched since she's not a wolf but I don't think her death puts anyone else in danger. If it did I would be more forthcoming.

muttmanager said:
If her death will ruin it, yall arent doing a good job trying to convince us of whos actually a wolf. Id move back to Cray but it wouldnt matter if everyone else stays on AM
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I mean, I've posted my reads. I don't really know what else you want from me? I don't think cray is a wolf but you should vote for who you think is most wolfy :shrug:
 
muttmanager said:
But what info are you gaining?

I could see a scenario where you are not a wolf - maybe a wolf was trying to kill you and that was redirected to Ski not your action was redirected to Ski, but I don't think that is right
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Info on how the tallies look when people vote for who they suspect without external lulz factors.

What you're describing isn't a scenario or how mechanics can works for anyone but a watcher.
 
muttmanager said:
If her death will ruin it, yall arent doing a good job trying to convince us of whos actually a wolf. Id move back to Cray but it wouldnt matter if everyone else stays on AM
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How about you move to Stagg? We've both, and some select others, have been saying he's acting weird.
 
Animal Midwife said:
Info on how the tallies look when people vote for who they suspect without external lulz factors.

What you're describing isn't a scenario or how mechanics can works for anyone but a watcher.
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And what have you learned from that info?

That's good to know, idt I've seen a watcher role
 
muttmanager said:
And what have you learned from that info?

That's good to know, idt I've seen a watcher role
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Enough to form my current wolf leans. I still would've liked less ties based on lesser village reads, but I'll take what I can get.
 
Animal Midwife said:
So why are you lynching me exactly? It sounds like you're building up to something then you comment about the vote steal instead.
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In that post I had asked you to share what happened but by the time I posted you had already done so. I'm voting for you because there is so much sketch surrounding this entire situation. I'm trying to mentally work through how this could be what you and dubs are claiming, but it's not clicking.

Melchizedek said:
Occam's Razor issue.
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What is this? It's been mentioned several times now
 
muttmanager said:
I agree he seemed quieter than his usual until maybe the last 2 days but hes not reading off to me
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Why is he not reading off to you? But you can't say I'm not convincing anyone in the future when I'm straight up asking you to move there now.
 
Animal Midwife said:
Enough to form my current wolf leans. I still would've liked less ties based on lesser village reads, but I'll take what I can get.
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Can you acknowledge 2/4 of your wolf leans have been confirmed wrong this game?
If not Stagg or me, who do you have next?
 
bryndiana.jones said:
In that post I had asked you to share what happened but by the time I posted you had already done so. I'm voting for you because there is so much sketch surrounding this entire situation. I'm trying to mentally work through how this could be what you and dubs are claiming, but it's not clicking.
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Okay, what's the sketch if you found what you were looking for?
 
muttmanager said:
Can you acknowledge 2/4 of your wolf leans have been confirmed wrong this game?
If not Stagg or me, who do you have next?
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I will circle back to Weim, but I doubt there's not one between the two of you.

Now I ask, how many of your wolf leans have been correct this game? How many have been wrong?
 
muttmanager said:
If her death will ruin it, yall arent doing a good job trying to convince us of whos actually a wolf. Id move back to Cray but it wouldnt matter if everyone else stays on AM
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I think I've been saying it pretty loud for a couple days who I think we should be lynching, and I think dubz has made it clear who we should lynch by voting for Stagg. (A wagon I will back if it comes down to saving AM btw.)

Could also go Dina after looking at the end tallies of the last few days.

I don't have a lot to spend, so if I bought a horse, it'd be a small one. Less money to pony up.
 
Skimble said:
I just got off the train and I haven’t caught up all the way yet (about 1/4 way down of 34, for my own refrence) but I didn’t want to lose my tags again, so I’ll make a quick post before I drive home.


This makes no sense? Why would this ever happen?

Wait... she said her action went through because the person she was acting on was near ski? That isn’t how that works. Either she’s lying, or she must have grossly misunderstood mods. I’m going with the former.

Lynch Am
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Yeah this doesn't make a bit of sense, unless the mods are using some ridiculously convoluted mechanics

Lynch AM
 
Animal Midwife said:
Okay, what's the sketch if you found what you were looking for?
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The sketch is that multiple people had actions on ski last night, it was confirmed by dubz that you were one of the people who acted on ski because she redirected you.
 
Animal Midwife said:
Why is he not reading off to you? But you can't say I'm not convincing anyone in the future when I'm straight up asking you to move there now.
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He's contributing reads & backing them up

Animal Midwife said:
I will circle back to Weim, but I doubt there's not one between the two of you.

Now I ask, how many of your wolf leans have been correct this game? How many have been wrong?
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Of the confirmed flips, killer was the only I was thought was wolfy - once Coffee and I started PM'ing she moved neutral. None of my other wolf leans have been killed.


Melchizedek said:
I think I've been saying it pretty loud for a couple days who I think we should be lynching, and I think dubz has made it clear who we should lynch by voting for Stagg. (A wagon I will back if it comes down to saving AM btw.)

Could also go Dina after looking at the end tallies of the last few days.

I don't have a lot to spend, so if I bought a horse, it'd be a small one. Less money to pony up.
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I dont think Kara's a wolf or that anyone else will move to Cray. I have Weim higher than Stagg for wolfy, if yall really want to let this AM thing play out don't crucify me for moving - i hate this whole thing

###unlynch AM, lynch weim###

And if weim or stagg flips village, can we lynch AM then?
 
Karabiner13 said:
also, has anyone else been blocked or anything or are we keeping that stuff to pm?

I had nothing happen to me last night
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yeah kinda hating the stuff being kept to PM

SERIOUSLY guys, unless you think it's going to advance the wolf agenda to know something, the villagers are uninformed majority. The only thing we have going for us is putting our heads together to compare notes and find wolves.

The rest should be shared with the class. I get that some secrets must be kept to keep wolves from finding out about PRs. But be careful what info you're keeping secret and brokering for "trust" in PMs. Be careful about saying things in PM that you're not sharing on thread. It can make you look dishonest and LAL principle has caused many a mislynch (lynch all liars). Villagers need to do their best to be honest and appear so to others. PM secretiveness and talking behind people's backs (sharing suspicions by PM but not on thread) increases paranoia.

There are people that use PM privacy to network and share intel and advance a villager agenda. But please be careful. I say this having maybe screwed up myself this game.
 
bryndiana.jones said:
The sketch is that multiple people had actions on ski last night, it was confirmed by dubz that you were one of the people who acted on ski because she redirected you.
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And?

muttmanager said:
He's contributing reads & backing them up
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I've only seen him talk about joke vote Kara, MOOSE, and me on repeat. And voting been between the former two with one being proven wrong...

muttmanager said:
Of the confirmed flips, killer was the only I was thought was wolfy - once Coffee and I started PM'ing she moved neutral. None of my other wolf leans have been killed.
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muttmanager said:
Most wolfy - in no order
Miranda - as much as I love gifs, at this point shes been active enough to have some leans
AM - seems off, mainly feels - still asking her usual questions but i think thats NAI
Coffee - need to ISO but feels off
Cray - im not really following her logic but I'll reread her posts
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This was also the only reads listed before Coffee was confirmed, so you have had some go through outside of killer (whom you're suspecting again).
 
WildZoo said:
Is that your only criteria for village? Because you won't catch any experienced wolf doing anything less.
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No but its part of why he's not sketching me out - he seems like himself.

Tinfoil alert - im not convinced AM didnt offer to convert you and Mel as long as you keep her alive.

I don't trust any bit of this situation but I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't move off someone flailing to themselves - though I dont necessarily get the same in return
 
Animal Midwife said:
And?

I've only seen him talk about joke vote Kara, MOOSE, and me on repeat. And voting been between the former two with one being proven wrong...


This was also the only reads listed before Coffee was confirmed, so you have had some go through outside of killer (whom you're suspecting again).
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I could be wrong about him, I really don't know but I have him leaning village rn

Don't even bc when it came down to moose or kara, i did not feel moose was wolfy-ist at that point. Coffee and I had not been talking at that point.
 
muttmanager said:
I could be wrong about him, I really don't know but I have him leaning village rn

Don't even bc when it came down to moose or kara, i did not feel moose was wolfy-ist at that point. Coffee and I had not been talking at that point.
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Yes, so you voted Kara whom you find villagey.

Do you see how this is hypocritical though? You can be wrong and reevaluate and it's okay and expected. If I'm wrong and reevaluate it makes me wolfy.
 
muttmanager said:
No but its part of why he's not sketching me out - he seems like himself.

Tinfoil alert - im not convinced AM didnt offer to convert you and Mel as long as you keep her alive.

I don't trust any bit of this situation but I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't move off someone flailing to themselves - though I dont necessarily get the same in return
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I disagree :shrug:

I wouldn't take that offer lol I'm not a fan of conversion these days
 
Animal Midwife said:
Yes, so you voted Kara whom you find villagey.

Do you see how this is hypocritical though? You can be wrong and reevaluate and it's okay and expected. If I'm wrong and reevaluate it makes me wolfy.
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Seriously, stop. We, literally you and I had this whole conversation already. She is leaning village now, when it was time to vote Kara was MIA, moose was posting - Kara showed up after and is now leaning village

Eta- Yes you can be wrong and reevaluate - quote where i said you reevaluating is wolfy and I'll apologize.
 
muttmanager said:
Seriously, stop. We, literally you and I had this whole conversation already. She is leaning village now, when it was time to vote Kara was MIA, moose was posting - Kara showed up after and is now leaning village
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I'm trying to point something out to you about reevaluating. I want you to see that you're wolf reading me for the very things that you are doing yourself.

On the note of Kara though, that would mean Stagg is repeatedly voting villagers. Does that affect your opinion on him?
 
Animal Midwife said:
I'm trying to point something out to you about reevaluating. I want you to see that you're wolf reading me for the very things that you are doing yourself.

On the note of Kara though, that would mean Stagg is repeatedly voting villagers. Does that affect your opinion on him?
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Maybe we're misunderstanding each other then bc my post with the 2/4 was intended to ask you to reevaluate. Im not reading you wolf for that. Im reading you wolf for reasons previously stated - they may not be strong reads in your eyes but this stagg push is the most significant play I've seen this game and why I'm willing to give you a chance to prove me wrong.

Kara flips village I would definitely reevaluate my stance on Stagg and Mel
 
muttmanager said:
Maybe we're misunderstanding each other then bc my post with the 2/4 was intended to ask you to reevaluate. Im not reading you wolf for that. Im reading you wolf for reasons previously stated - they may not be strong reads in your eyes but this stagg push is the most significant play I've seen this game and why I'm willing to give you a chance to prove me wrong.

Kara flips village I would definitely reevaluate my stance on Stagg and Mel
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Okay, I still can't define why you're wolf reading me then.

Also, if you're village reading someone, it's best to pretend you're already in a world where they flipped village and how that affects perceptions of other player actions and motives. That's what allows for successful wolf lynches.
 
lynch capri

This is still where my wolf is. The bridle business is hard to ignore, but I trust that either WZ or Mel would catch AM if there were a hole, hopefully not both of them on the wrong end of the bamboozle.
 
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Day 4 Thoroughbred Thursday Lynch Tally

AM (8) - coffeebean, meats, cray, SAR, bryndi, cubs, snowy, skim
Kara (1) - mel
Mutts () -
Mel (1) - Kara
MJ () -
capri (2) - MJ, lupin
MSU (2) - killer, capri
Stagg (4) - Dubz, genny, AM, Weim
Weim (1) - mutts

19/22 voting
@Animal Midwife you are in the lead!

Missing: @Dinashadow @MSUcvmHOPE @Stagg737

Lynch close at 9pm CST (1.5 hours remaining)
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