HoWWrses: Game Thread

[SkiOtter]

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Fortunately she also has a super trustworthy PM partner for if something can't be said on thread 😉

Psssshhhh I ain’t about that life

 

[Crayola227]

Dubz is the one with the AM 20Q Society Card.
This is the first time I’be been in a game where AM was chaos and we could PM so this is a new situation for me and as WZ said, AM was playing her village game.

I question now when you guys can tell when she's playing her village game or not.... but as I said I'm realizing there's actually only one real sort of tone that I tend to pick up, which is the emotional side things so it pings me. For example, I didn't pick up what you said about Snowy and the difference in her style, but I think you are correct. In my mind you are making specific and accurate assessments about how other players are playing, lol, with one big exception.

Yeah, Dubz' thing saying "we put our lives on hold to find out her true affiliation so you don't have to...."

I mean, I'm wondering, do you think you two accurately read her as village? or as wolf? Or do you just read her as village and game odds support that?

It's all the in past, but it is certainly useful for me to know this going into more games, not mention as I try to work out what you are.

 

[Melchizedek]

I was out to dinner and subsequent activities with the SO all night, and completely forgot to check in. Catching up now due to insomnia. Quoting and responding as I go.

Also, I have no idea how I got lumped in with Kara and Lupin, but at least I can appreciate being in good company

IDK about you and Lupin, but until dubz and SAR soft cleared Kara for me, I was under the impression that you were purposely on every counterwagon to Kara at the beginning of the game. I think some people latched on to that?

While I appreciate the 180, I don't think your sar idea is better if it's based on her ability. She was an ability seer. From the abilities we've seen, I don't think abilities are necessarily affiliation indicative (I think Snowy mentioned this idea). PM'er can go either way, redirector as well to name just a few. Makes me suspect that the wolves have abilities underlying some benign abilities

I get that, but at this point, I'm willing to trust Dubz and SAR's reads on you regardless of ability seer or not. Don't get me wrong, if you flip wolf I will be mad forever.

Like a glowing red conversion type light?

I lol'd

Seriously? This makes no sense. I don't even believe that you believed this for one second.

Bugger off. I really didn't want to believe AM wasn't village. I already feel stupid enough

I'm very uncomfortable with this lynch right now. Mainly because Capri is in second and hasn't dropped her vote yet. I feel like this may turn into IHOP in a few minutes...

You mean....

I don't care what anyone says, Waffle House is gorram dilishios

Of course you can. Here you go:

Spoiler: It's a tie

I lol'd again.

Wow OK

Anyone else want to do more to tell me about how they caught capri this game? I feel doomed to never read her well

she ended up on my radar because of how she was pretending to participate, but wasn't following through on the stuff she was saying or thinking about the implications of what she was theorizing. I was MIA but honestly if I was around, I probably wouldn't have moved because I was okay with either a capri or lupin lynch today.

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Oh sure, everyone *likes* the posts about my post, but doesn't *like* my post



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Translation: I need attention, and lots of it 😛

Sardines results about skim.

ohhh this should be interesting......

Contingency Lynch Skim

(color change so Mods can find it in this wallpost)

She opened a PM with me yesterday and we exchanged pleasantries and talked about how busy she was. Time to do some grillin'

Fortunately she also has a super trustworthy PM partner for if something can't be said on thread 😉

Who? Me? 😱 I'm so flattered!

 

[Karabiner13]

Could go stagg or genny at this point. The former because of previous reasons and because I am not convinced that a post restrictor is village, and the later for VCA and post quality.

Interesting that you stayed off Lupin and capri. Why not lupin?

I need to look through your posts to see if you gave thoughts on capri

Also need to look through yesterday’s lynch when I get home tonight

 

[SportPonies]

Night 5

Bojack Horseman was born to Beatrice and Butterscotch Horseman on January 2nd, 1964. His mother hated him and blamed him for all of her failings, and his drunk of a father abused him as he grew up. To escape from the dysfunctional life he was born into, Bojack looked up to our now-deceased Secretariat, seeking the same fame and fortune that he possessed. He's bitter, narcissistic, and self-destructive. He often wears on others, driving away the people he most cares about. It seems, however, that the fame turned to loneliness and depression; our horse friend turned to substance abuse just to get through the day.

Others were skeptical that he really was that great of a guy with all the negativity that spewed from his mouth and all the troubles he put everyone else through, but his heart was in the right place the entire time.

Unfortunately, it seem bad luck befell Bojack last night, as he was found dead in his stall (home?) this morning.

Capable of ruining his best friends' days just when they need it least, Dead is @Stagg737 - Bojack Horseman, Post Restrictor



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The Roster:
1. @CoffeeQuestionMark
2. @muttmanager
3. @SnowshoeDog143
5. @Skimble
10. @Melchizedek
11. @Dinashadow
12. @Crayola227
14. @Lupin21
15. @cubsrule4e
16. @genny
17. @vetmedhead
18. @MSUcvmHOPE
19. @Mad Jack
20. @Stagg737
26. @bryndiana.jones
27. @WeimMama
28. @Karabiner13
23. @killerleaf
8. @SkiOtter
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Deep in our imaginations:
(30.) @StayingPositive2017

The Renderer:
13. @Barkley13 - Sleipnir - 2x Vig
21. @Miranda Senft - Barn Cat - PMer
4. @dolphin106258 - Spirit - Redirector
29. @ziggyandjazzy - Horace Horsecollar
25. @sheltermed - A Horse With No Name - Anon Messenger
22. @Gwenevre - Secretariat - Tinkerer
9. @Animal Midwife - Mine That Bird - 3x kill, vote controller
7. @WildZoo - The Old Gray Mare
6. @SARdoghandler - Bullseye - Ability seer
24. @capri1722 - Bucephalus - Strongarm
20. @Stagg737 - Bojack Horseman- Post Restrictor

It is now Day 6. Lynch close at 9 PM CST. ​

 

[Stagg737]

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Night 5

Bojack Horseman was born to Beatrice and Butterscotch Horseman on January 2nd, 1964. His mother hated him and blamed him for all of her failings, and his drunk of a father abused him as he grew up. To escape from the dysfunctional life he was born into, Bojack looked up to our now-deceased Secretariat, seeking the same fame and fortune that he possessed. He's bitter, narcissistic, and self-destructive. He often wears on others, driving away the people he most cares about. It seems, however, that the fame turned to loneliness and depression; our horse friend turned to substance abuse just to get through the day.

Others were skeptical that he really was that great of a guy with all the negativity that spewed from his mouth and all the troubles he put everyone else through, but his heart was in the right place the entire time.

Unfortunately, it seem bad luck befell Bojack last night, as he was found dead in his stall (home?) this morning.

Capable of ruining his best friends' days just when they need it least, Dead is @Stagg737 - Bojack Horseman, Post Restrictor



​

The Roster:
1. @CoffeeQuestionMark
2. @muttmanager
3. @SnowshoeDog143
5. @Skimble
10. @Melchizedek
11. @Dinashadow
12. @Crayola227
14. @Lupin21
15. @cubsrule4e
16. @genny
17. @vetmedhead
18. @MSUcvmHOPE
19. @Mad Jack
20. @Stagg737
26. @bryndiana.jones
27. @WeimMama
28. @Karabiner13
23. @killerleaf
8. @SkiOtter
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Deep in our imaginations:
(30.) @StayingPositive2017

The Renderer:
13. @Barkley13 - Sleipnir - 2x Vig
21. @Miranda Senft - Barn Cat - PMer
4. @dolphin106258 - Spirit - Redirector
29. @ziggyandjazzy - Horace Horsecollar
25. @sheltermed - A Horse With No Name - Anon Messenger
22. @Gwenevre - Secretariat - Tinkerer
9. @Animal Midwife - Mine That Bird - 3x kill, vote controller
7. @WildZoo - The Old Gray Mare
6. @SARdoghandler - Bullseye - Ability seer
24. @capri1722 - Bucephalus - Strongarm
20. @Stagg737 - Bojack Horseman- Post Restrictor

It is now Day 6. Lynch close at 9 PM CST. ​

Dam, painfully accurate write-up, lol.

Wolves, you all suck for killing me now. I was about to make the greatest post restriction ever!

Post restrict the Mods

They must post a Magikarp gif as the tally gif and write "splash splash splash" at the end of each of their messages.

Go village go! Avenge meeeeeeee!
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[Dinashadow]

Capri makes stagg think he's going to be killed for being first on her lynch and then wolves NK him anyways. Savage.

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

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Dam, painfully accurate write-up, lol.

Wolves, you all suck for killing me now. I was about to make the greatest post restriction ever!



Go village go! Avenge meeeeeeee!
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
you're my favorite post restrictor

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

@Skimble if you flip wolf that is really not good for attempts to not tunnel on you

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

Interesting that you stayed off Lupin and capri. Why not lupin?

I need to look through your posts to see if you gave thoughts on capri

Also need to look through yesterday’s lynch when I get home tonight

it seems the search function is poorly working just FYI

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

Seriously, can you all STOP IT with the statistics talk?!? I was going to go into why some of you are wrong, but I don't want to perpetuate the topic any longer.

Also, I don't really like the zig or AM votes right now. Not that either (or both) can't be wolves, but I don't like the reasoning for zig, and if AM is village, she's useful to keep around for a while/not someone I want to see lynched d1.

I'm just going to save this for when I'm ready to tunnel Skimble again

-I see a hesitance to draw attention to herself by joining in the stats talk
-early defense of villagers is something I totally do as wolf

 

[WildZoo]

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You heard it here first folks, wolves have broken the search function

Is nothing sacred to them??
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[Animal Midwife]

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Day 6 Lynch Tally

bryndi (1) - cubs
Skim (5) - Ski, Coffee?, meats, Dina, Mel
meats (1) - bryndi

7/18
lynch close in ~11 hours
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[Lupin21]

lynch bryndi

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

Oh dear all the chatty people are dead no wonder I'm bored

 

[SnowshoeDog143]

Sorry guys going to try to get on during my breaks this werkend to catch up, but my parents are visiting so I probably wont be posting a lot. Also I see that capri was a wolf and stagg was village 😕 going to need to re evaluate, but from not reading the past few pages, I think a capri lynch makes me feel better about lupin.

 

[WeimMama]

I’ve got a lot of catch up reading to do and of course SDN was down in the only certain free time of my day. I’ll try to catch up if I get any breaks.

Lynch bryndi

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

I like that there is reason to vote Skimble but at the same time, if we know her ability and it is not EON extra kill, I would rather try to get the EON extra kill wolf tonight before they get to use it, which could be bryndi, so trying to decide to go back to voting there or not.

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

I was out to dinner and subsequent activities with the SO all night, and completely forgot to check in. Catching up now due to insomnia. Quoting and responding as I go.



IDK about you and Lupin, but until dubz and SAR soft cleared Kara for me, I was under the impression that you were purposely on every counterwagon to Kara at the beginning of the game. I think some people latched on to that?


I get that, but at this point, I'm willing to trust Dubz and SAR's reads on you regardless of ability seer or not. Don't get me wrong, if you flip wolf I will be mad forever.


I lol'd


Bugger off. I really didn't want to believe AM wasn't village. I already feel stupid enough


You mean....

I don't care what anyone says, Waffle House is gorram dilishios


I lol'd again.


she ended up on my radar because of how she was pretending to participate, but wasn't following through on the stuff she was saying or thinking about the implications of what she was theorizing. I was MIA but honestly if I was around, I probably wouldn't have moved because I was okay with either a capri or lupin lynch today.


Translation: I need attention, and lots of it 😛


ohhh this should be interesting......

Contingency Lynch Skim

(color change so Mods can find it in this wallpost)

She opened a PM with me yesterday and we exchanged pleasantries and talked about how busy she was. Time to do some grillin'


Who? Me? 😱 I'm so flattered!

You aren't Ski's PM partner! 😛

 

[bryndiana.jones]

I think theres another lurky wolf or 2 - between weim, dina, bryndi & skim

Yes Cray, my village worldview has completely flipped again

Why am I on this list? I've been on and posting every day

I'd also like to hear a little more about your thoughts behind your lynch vote on me, @bryndiana.jones

Looked opportunistic if you knew she was going down. I reread last night and it doesn't make as much sense given your overall play.

Interesting that you stayed off Lupin and capri. Why not lupin?

I need to look through your posts to see if you gave thoughts on capri

Also need to look through yesterday’s lynch when I get home tonight

The only thing I had against lupin was her poor reasoning for her d1 vote on me, I went through her posts and nothing stood out to me so I had no inclination to vote there.

 

[bryndiana.jones]

unlynch vmh
lynch skim

 

[cubsrule4e]

Why?

Cause she is blood red bruh

 

[SkiOtter]

You aren't Ski's PM partner! 😛

Where did he say he was

 

[cubsrule4e]

Oh dear all the chatty people are dead no wonder I'm bored

wassup?? hows the cookster?

 

[cubsrule4e]

Also genny might be moving up my list after throwing shade at me and lupes

 

[SkiOtter]

I like that there is reason to vote Skimble but at the same time, if we know her ability and it is not EON extra kill, I would rather try to get the EON extra kill wolf tonight before they get to use it, which could be bryndi, so trying to decide to go back to voting there or not.

I’ve seen it where the extra kill isn’t necessarily tied to a specific wolf. Though I think usually that’s more of if it’s a harder thing to get (like for dog breed groups in Dogs) vs just an extra free kill...

 

[SkiOtter]

Cause she is blood red bruh

?

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

Where did he say he was

I indicated you had a trusty PM partner to share with and he said "who, me?? I'm flattered"

wassup?? hows the cookster?

She's good! We are about to go to the beach. Haven't taken a real walk in a few days because the snow has turned to ice and it makes me nervous to walk on.

edit: nevermind it's raining
we just gonna get coffee

 

[SkiOtter]

I indicated you had a trusty PM partner to share with and he said "who, me?? I'm flattered"

I missed that apparently
I thought you were saying because he said skim opened a PM with him and that you read it as ski

 

[Lupin21]

unlynch vmh
lynch skim

Who all is in your village vs wolf core?

 

[genny]

Also genny might be moving up my list after throwing shade at me and lupes

I'm ok with that.

 

[cubsrule4e]

I'm ok with that.

😱
🙁

 

[cubsrule4e]

?

Bryndz.... I had developed some kind of link between capri-bryn and kara-lupes, the first one to flip was capri, so im going with the other half of that pairing, and kara and lupes seem pretty village to me right now. Next up is to eval skimble, she is one of those I havent interacted with at all. Maybe some ISO homework on her today

 

[SkiOtter]

Bryndz.... I had developed some kind of link between capri-bryn and kara-lupes, the first one to flip was capri, so im going with the other half of that pairing, and kara and lupes seem pretty village to me right now. Next up is to eval skimble, she is one of those I havent interacted with at all. Maybe some ISO homework on her today

My question mark was to the “She is blood red” part, not questioning who the comment was about.
Care to expand on this link?

 

[Karabiner13]

it seems the search function is poorly working just FYI

Looks like I'll have to wait until I can get at my computer to iso then even though it's a rare time I have time over lunch while at work

Oh dear all the chatty people are dead no wonder I'm bored

I can be chatty just have to have time to be chatty

Lynch brndy

I'll reevaluate her when I'm home to decide if I'm staying here

 

[cubsrule4e]

Bryndi (5) - Karabeans, meats, snowy, Lupes, coffee

Theres gotta be some Red in here somewhere, if not bryndi herself. Zigs flip makes me look a little less at kara.

where are you at with your thoughts on this since koffee was shown green by mods? I see you drop the idea and haven't revisited it again

I guess ive revisited it in pieces, but heres a collective thought

Bryndi -likely wolf

Kara/Lupes - likely village

Coffee - cleared village at one point, but always chance for conversion (from my understanding of that ensuing chat, her role is a good candidate for this)

Meats/Snowy - neutral, didnt like the snowy aggression on stagg lynch

 

[Karabiner13]

Quick look through tallies

Feel better about MSU with Capri going there so much

Bryndy seems to have avoided Capri lynches. Seems iso is working so I'll see if I can find thoughts on Capri and vice versa to evaluate that more. May not finish until I get out of work though

 

[cubsrule4e]

My question mark was to the “She is blood red” part, not questioning who the comment was about.
Care to expand on this link?

If youre asking why her, see above. If youre asking why make it red, I guess i just like seeing the colors? lol. My brain gets happy when those color coded lynch tallies come out. Our work excel spreadsheet with all the doctor teams and scribe/tech assignments for each week are put in blocks for each team and all have a different color

 

[SkiOtter]

If youre asking why her, see above. If youre asking why make it red, I guess i just like seeing the colors? lol. My brain gets happy when those color coded lynch tallies come out. Our work excel spreadsheet with all the doctor teams and scribe/tech assignments for each week are put in blocks for each team and all have a different color

I’m not asking either
You said you saw a link between bryndi and Capri.

 

[Karabiner13]

Well if you'd like my outside viewpoint, I think you lean more towards false negatives than false positives with Mel. That is, if you're wrong in reading him, you're more likely to believe he's village when he's not than you are to mislynch him when he's village.

This feels squicky, like I'm getting a whiff of fishing

This is also kinda where I'm at but also…what AM said about OGs and converts applies here.

I read this to the tune of Mambo no. 5

where u been lol

The 'feeling squicky' was to Cubs. Had me feeling good on Cubs

The 'where u been' was to vmh. Quick look through iso seems it's the only vmh interaction. Makes me want to look into vmh more

So when MSU voted there was a 4 way tie and she voted for none of them. Why? My thought is that she wanted to get a vote in before close, as she more or less said, but didn't have a preference who of the 4 died because none of them were her pack mates. If there was a wolf in there, she could easily have said "lynch [insert any villager in the tie here]" and claimed feels.
This would also clear Coffee, Bryndy, and MOOSE (and killer's original incarnation but…obviously).

Only mention of bryndy so far. I don't remember finding a mention of her from when she was up for D1 (if anyone else does please let me know. Hard on phone)

Can you two take these tin foils a little further?if all 4 of them were village where do you think the wolves voted?

Agree with Snowy for the most part. Why should wolves care who of the four gets lynched if none of them are wolves?
Don't really know what the purpose of that question was, Mel. Was there an answer you were expecting?

Nope, it was Killer who opened a PM with me.
ETA: I'm not even next to Weim…

This interaction between Mel and Capri feels coached. I know Mel likes to help some wolves out by asking questions on thread and giving ways to 'correctly' answer in pm. Need to more objectively evaluate Mel now he's not tunneling me

Yep.

I see your point.

Not sure. Haven't thought that far ahead yet. It basically invalidates the village read I had on Bryndy and the other three have all been confirmed village, so guess I'd have to go back to the drawing board on her.

From a conversation with dubz on the day 1 4-way tie and capri's MSU tin foil. The last mention of bryndy I can find and she never followed up on this. Doesn't make me feel good about bryndy

Rest of iso's I want to follow up on will have to wait until I'm at my computer

 

[Skimble]

SAR wasn't completely correct in her interpretation of her night results for me. I'm a mimic, not an ability thief, which I think should be clear since no one has ever claimed to have their ability stolen, right? In a game this size, I'm not really surprised that there are similar roles. I was surprised that the ability seer was village, but she was, and I am too. I have been trying to use it in the most village way possible, though it seems I'm pretty good at targeting people that I can't use my ability on. N1 I used my ability on dolphin, to see if I could find a pm buddy I could trust, obviously knowing her ability didn't help me trust her one way or another. I tried to mimic stagg N4, again, didn't really help me know if he was wolf or not.

With as busy as I've been this rotation, I probably would have asked for a sub if I were a wolf, but I know that is a bit WIFOM.

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

SAR wasn't completely correct in her interpretation of her night results for me. I'm a mimic, not an ability thief, which I think should be clear since no one has ever claimed to have their ability stolen, right? In a game this size, I'm not really surprised that there are similar roles. I was surprised that the ability seer was village, but she was, and I am too. I have been trying to use it in the most village way possible, though it seems I'm pretty good at targeting people that I can't use my ability on. N1 I used my ability on dolphin, to see if I could find a pm buddy I could trust, obviously knowing her ability didn't help me trust her one way or another. I tried to mimic stagg N4, again, didn't really help me know if he was wolf or not.

With as busy as I've been this rotation, I probably would have asked for a sub if I were a wolf, but I know that is a bit WIFOM.

Seer Dolphin N1, she dies N2. Seer Stagg N4, he dies N5. Your other PM partner, also dead. I'm not even sure I believe you mimicked Stagg because, it has already been discussed, no one was restricted yesterday.

I just got on the train home and I’m just looking at posts I was tagged right now. I’m on page 17... so... if someone wants to give me the TLDR, I’d really appreciate it. I pm’d dolphin this morning asking if she would possibly help me out with that, but I don’t see that she replied yet.

Well, I guess that would explain the lack of response. Is @SARdoghandler still alive? I think she is my other pm partner, and whomever was above dolphin.

At the time this chain of posts gave me pause and I put it aside. I just couldn't understand why you wouldn't check the night right up instead of asking about who is alive and who is dead on thread.

 

[cubsrule4e]

I’m not asking either
You said you saw a link between bryndi and Capri.

Oh, the LINK... im a dumb*** lol. Aside from some early voting and tinfoiling against MSU, i dont really have a smoking gun. Going a lot on gut/feels just continually observing thread interactions day after day. Throw your vote out there and lets see if Im getting any good at this

 

[Skimble]

Seer Dolphin N1, she dies N2. Seer Stagg N4, he dies N5. Your other PM partner, also dead. I'm not even sure I believe you mimicked Stagg because, it has already been discussed, no one was restricted yesterday.

Yes, I do realize that it looks bad, and believe me, I noticed that my pm partners died. Wouldn't it have been easier for me to just lie about it if I were a wolf? I did not mimic SAR, so I had no idea that was her ability until she died. I haven't even really pm'd much at all. I haven't had time for it, plus I'm usually not super into it anyway.

At the time this chain of posts gave me pause and I put it aside. I just couldn't understand why you wouldn't check the night right up instead of asking about who is alive and who is dead on thread.

Because I was on the train and had a limited amount of time. It was a whole lot faster to ask and get tagged in a reply than to go looking for the write up while on my phone.

 

[cubsrule4e]

unlynch vmh
lynch skim

Who all is in your village vs wolf core?

Also take note here, this happened right after 2 more people voted for bryn, moving to skim early to widen the gap

 

[SkiOtter]

Who was it that said sardines told subs they seered or were okay with Kara. Was it you @Melchizedek????

 

[vetmedhead]

Can someone help me keep track of the huge presence and the small and formidable presence?

"A huge/giant presence"
N1 - Ski
N2 - Dina
N3 - ???
N4 - Stagg (also reported his action not going through that day)
N5 - ???

"A small and formidable presence"
N1 - ???
N2 - ???
N3 - mutts
N4 - capri (according to Capri)
N5 - ???

I am mainly intrigued because if I had to guess one is a blocker and the other might be a jailer of some sort, but I was curious if the patterning of chosen targets was at all informative

 

[vetmedhead]

FWIW I am back to being more leery of bryndi and am perfectly happy to lynch there as well

Also feeling less comfortable with mutts, and we obviously know I'm willing to vote down skim as well

 

[bryndiana.jones]

Who all is in your village vs wolf core?

Not in order
village: coffee vmh ski lupin kb
wolf: mel weim genny skim

Bryndz.... I had developed some kind of link between capri-bryn and kara-lupes, the first one to flip was capri, so im going with the other half of that pairing, and kara and lupes seem pretty village to me right now. Next up is to eval skimble, she is one of those I havent interacted with at all. Maybe some ISO homework on her today

How do you think capri and I are linked? You said genny is moving up on your sketch list, how come?

 

[vetmedhead]

Seer Dolphin N1, she dies N2. Seer Stagg N4, he dies N5. Your other PM partner, also dead. I'm not even sure I believe you mimicked Stagg because, it has already been discussed, no one was restricted yesterday.





At the time this chain of posts gave me pause and I put it aside. I just couldn't understand why you wouldn't check the night right up instead of asking about who is alive and who is dead on thread.

To be fair I am less concerned that her PM partners have been dying a day after she acted on them and more concerned that Stagg appears to have been blocked the same night that she acted on him

I am curious to know about her other targets and get an idea of who she thought was suspect enough to take a peek at throughout the game