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hej better 2 ask then be sorry later....anyways just came back from snowboarding with a bump on the head so thinking isin't my strongpoint right now......
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here is my next dumb question of the day:
i know that we get an HPSP handbook (or whatever it is called) that defines the rules of teh scholarship but is there an actual contract that has those rules too? what i am asking is how easily can they change the rules on u and screw u over???
hej better 2 ask then be sorry later....anyways just came back from snowboarding with a bump on the head so thinking isin't my strongpoint right now......
😀 here is my next dumb question of the day:
i know that we get an HPSP handbook (or whatever it is called) that defines the rules of teh scholarship but is there an actual contract that has those rules too? what i am asking is how easily can they change the rules on u and screw u over???
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Moniagrl:
If you want to look at the Navy's HPSP handbook, just take a look here .
I've got a copy of my service agreement from years ago - it may have changed, but I'd be happy to scan a copy & e-mail it. The contract is more to specify what you're obligated to give the Navy, rather than what the Navy is obligated to do for you....looks out primarily for their interests, not yours.
If you want to look at the Navy's HPSP handbook, just take a look here .
I've got a copy of my service agreement from years ago - it may have changed, but I'd be happy to scan a copy & e-mail it. The contract is more to specify what you're obligated to give the Navy, rather than what the Navy is obligated to do for you....looks out primarily for their interests, not yours.
You will get a contract the spells out in clear Legalese what your obligations will be to the military. They can change the contract any time they want before you sign it. After you sign it, it becomes a contract and cannot be changed. However, there will be a clause in the contract that pretty much says they can do whatever they want should a "need" arise.
The obligations rules on how long you need to serve has not changed since 1990.
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is there a place the spells out ALL the benefits??? i tried to find them on the net and all i get is the general ones.
like what are the differences between the benefits when we r in the reserves vs. active duty
i mean things like shopping at the commissery, using millitary gyms, travel, and so on.....u know the stuff that are the little perks
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like what are the differences between the benefits when we r in the reserves vs. active duty
i mean things like shopping at the commissery, using millitary gyms, travel, and so on.....u know the stuff that are the little perks
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When you are inactive, meaning while you're attending medical school, you are eligible for no benefits....nothing!
All those benefits that you mentioned are only available when you are Active Duty, for training or otherwise.
All those benefits that you mentioned are only available when you are Active Duty, for training or otherwise.
Actually you are wrong militarymd, at least for Army HPSP. While IRR You get a Commissary pass -- not that it helps me, I live three hours fromt he nearest commissary. I think, but am not sure, that you may be able to fly space A.
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must have changed since I was a medical student.....it's been over 10 years...but like you said, it doesn't help.
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ther eis a commissary 15 mins from where i will be. hope at least that helps...
i also heard u get discounts on travel ( even though u cant get the travel in uniform discount until u r active duty) there si supposed 2 be lower fares 4 us though. anyone know about this??
i also heard u get discounts on travel ( even though u cant get the travel in uniform discount until u r active duty) there si supposed 2 be lower fares 4 us though. anyone know about this??
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i am confused about something in the contract. i thought that if u get a deferment the millitary still pays for your residency but in the contract it says that they don't( unless i read ti wrong which i am gonna make sure tommorow). anyone have any in sight on how deferments really work?
Deferment for civilian residency - military doesn't pay anything, but you don't get further obligation.
Full-Time Out Service (FTOS) civilian residency - military pays for it, but you incur further obligation.
Full-Time Out Service (FTOS) civilian residency - military pays for it, but you incur further obligation.
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aha i see. so how does one get one over the other?
just out of curiousity???
just out of curiousity???
In the Army it is very difficult to get a deferment or FTOS for residency. The only regular way this happens is if a specialty is "oversubscibed" in a given year. This year, pediatrics was particularly popular. Rumor had it that 40 people were applying for a mere 24 slots. Of the 16 folks who were not selected, those in HPSP got deferred. Those in USUHS were "invited" to chose something else.
FTOS is commonly used for fellowships that the military doesn't offer. If you want to do Pediatric Intensive Care, the Army might sponser you to do this at a civilian location. You would then incur additional payback obligation.
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FTOS is commonly used for fellowships that the military doesn't offer. If you want to do Pediatric Intensive Care, the Army might sponser you to do this at a civilian location. You would then incur additional payback obligation.
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wow. so was i lucky or unlucky to match in peds??
i guess we're gonna have a lot of pediatricians in our class. which is odd, because last year they didn't even have enough people to fill all their slots. i guess we'll all be competing for fellowships too, won't we? at the moment i think it'd be nice to subspecialize, but things may change.ok, back to the original thread. hijacking is over. 🙂
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wait so those who were deferred were not paid by the millitary during residency???
If on a defferment, does the military pay for your housing?
No, deferrment just means that you delay your start of active duty time. So they don't pay for anything....I would be surprised if you receive commissary privileges...any takers on that?
I've heard that they've expanded commissary & exchange priviledges for the reserves, but it's still my understanding that when you are in deferment that you're part of the IRR (inactive ready reserve). This is the same status as during med school on the HPSP - no pay, no benefits, no commissary priviledges - unless you go on active duty for training, TAD, etc.
I cant say about being deferred, but I am positive that you get a commissary card while in HPSP -- I HAVE ONE. It's a pink paper card with a bunch of boxes on the back. I don't know if they punch it or if they check them off because I have never used it.
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Yeah, I have a green ID card as well. I was referring to a separate commissary card. I didn't even notice until I read last post that they didn't send me a new one (it's because I never use it). It's good to know everyone has unlimited priviledges now, though.
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