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it's under biology. sorry
I need help!
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it's under biology. sorry
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Just another tip... unless TigerW beats me to it
... vet schools want to see your elective courses in science, even more specifically in something relevant to vet medicine. Not EVERY elective needs to be, but they want to see you are taking tough classes and doing well. Getting As in these classes won't do much to help you get into vet school, and you have A LOT of work to do! I took bowling one semester, but I was taking 17 other hours of science courses...
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Yeah I said that in my head, but I figured you would get there before I could type it anyway 😉
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i didn't intend on taking them for fun. my advisement counselor thought taking those science classes this spring 2012 would be too much because of the work load, while i'm trying to raise my gpa. i'll be taking those required science classes in the fall 2012.
i have to take intro to trignometry before taking calc.
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Can't you take just one or two then? No one is saying to complete them all in one semester, but it does help your case if you can take and succeed in science classes, since veterinary medicine is a science-based curriculum/profession.
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Ok, in all seriousness FutureVet 90, I'm pretty sure the best thing for you to do is read through these threads and realistically decide if this is something you feel is attainable for you. Talk to your academic advisor, research schools, and I think you will get a frightening wake up call. If this is something you REALLY REALLY want, than you REALLY REALLY have a TON of work ahead of you.... get started. We wish you the best!
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This is getting stupid.
How is it even possible that you are a sophomore in a pre-health, chem program without taking any pre-health or chem courses?
For a chem minor at my Mickey Mouse school, you need a year of gen chem, a year of ochem, analytical and p-chem. That's three years worth of classes.
A bio major starts first semester and compounds throughout your 4 years. You don't get 2 years to exclusively take "intro to world religion, survey of art history and history of motion pictures."
At some point, you do realize that you have to take some science, right?
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Pwned.
Okay OP, so you said your major was UNDER bio, but you still need to take upper division bio courses. I have this feeling that you aren't going to graduate early. At all. For instance I took a couple film classes and exercise classes but I did a lot of courses over each summer (I had to work at school anyways and the only way for me to get the work study was to be taking classes). Anyways, I never took intro to trig or these general GENERAL bio courses. I would suggest seeing what your degree requires. Map that out. See what classes schools require. Map that out. Discuss with counselor.
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Goddamnit dsmoody. You stole my fire. And your post is funnier.
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um...i know i have to take alot of science classes.
i changed my major last year in march. my previous major was nursing and on top of that, classes i needed to take were filled. so i was stuck choosing electives. i'm very aware that i'm behind. all i'm asking for advice and some bloggers seemed annoyed by it.
i do thank the people who have given me advice in here.
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I was eating chocolate!!! I retire. I take back my comment.
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We gave you the advice.
You ignored it and started a second thread asking for the same advice.
We gave you the advice again.
You're ignoring it, making weak excuses, and I presume you're about to start a third thread.
If you want advice about study skills, planning your schedule, help with specific courses, etc... I'm sure there are countless people who will help you here, myself included. But we're not talking about anything that matters in here, right now.
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OP...I think you need to take a look at the Successful Applicants thread and see where people's experience, grades, GREs, etc stand to be competitive--a pet store and animal shelter won't cut it for vet hours, even if you get transportation worked out. I applaud you for getting your grades up this past term, but you need to be more realistic, see who you are up against, and talk to a career/academic counselor about what to do next.
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what weak excuse did i make?
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That's sort of the point. Vet schools don't really care if you can pull in an A in a tough science class while taking a bunch of easy courses. They need to see that you can get good marks while taking just about all hard classes, because that's more or less vet school. They need to see that you can handle a heavy work load. If you raise your GPA on the back of art history and motion picutres, it isn't going to look good to admissions comittees, especially not if it's next to a D and C in bio and chem.
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thank you. and i will.
all i asked for was advice and i got some and i also got some childish bloggers pointing out that i made a second thread.
a pet store and animal shelter was just to get started and that's something that i have to work out because idk how i'm going to get to these places. a pet store would be nice since i'm having a hard time finding employment and i would be around animals.
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ok......
maybe i'll look into science classes i want to retake and a science class that is required, in the summer.
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Yeah but make sure you get "veterinary" experience, not just animal experience. They are very different and are actually two compltely separate spots/requirements on school applications...
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yeah, i know about the vet experience as well. i don't know if you have people/family that you can depend on, but i don't. so, it's kind of hard to do the things i want/need to do without transportation.
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Maybe you need to look at your own attitude instead of lashing out at others. You are not going to encourage people to help when posting multiple threads on the same topic (which is also a violation of SDN terms of service ....perhaps someone will report YOU).
Do a little reading and research. Search the forum, read a bunch of threads and understand how people use this forum. Then maybe you won't get criticized and get so defensive.
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- my grades were horrible living at home
- it's kind of hard to get involved when i don't have transportation or a driver's license at age 21.
- it's kind of hard to get involved like i would like to since i have no transportation (as i stated earlier) and no one to really depend on
- it's kind of hard to get involved like i want to because of no driver's license and no transportation.
- but with no transportation and not enough help
- i'm having a hard time finding employment
- my previous semesters were horrible while living with my mom
- taking those science classes this spring 2012 would be too much because of the work load
- classes i needed to take were filled. so i was stuck choosing electives
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Is there any type of transportation system your school has? Although I had a car, there were things called zip cars at my school. There was also a tram system. Ever look into bus schedules? Really, the best thing to do is find a local vet. I'm sure there is one nearby. What about friends? I know that I had to drag friend's *****es around bc they were OOS.
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sorry if you think those facts are weak excuses.
i don't know what else you want me to say. i'm not about to type my life story about why things aren't where i want them to be in my life.
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And I was just trying to help. You seem pretty unaware of a lot of things about vet school, so I thought that was a fair suggestion... but you OBVIOUSLY don't want vet school bad enough to listen to what anyone is trying to tell you...!
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sorry. i don't see where i had attitude.
it seems like you did though. it's a second thread, if you felt annoyed by it, you should've just not posted in it.
have a good night.
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So change them. If you heard the things I overcame in college, they would blow your world apart, so do what I did, and stop feeling sorry for yourself and work toward your goals! FOR GOD'S SAKE!
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Ditto. This ain't worth the power of superman fingers. You said nothing about what the school offers as far as transportation. So maybe it is an excuse. I think you got some valuable free advice. It is what you make of it. If you don't use it, even the sarcastic ones, I wouldn't be surprised.
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I'm with ya on making herself as competitive as possible (that's just common sense?); I just think that the people saying that she HAS to get STRAIGHT A's from here on out are probably overdoing it. An A- or a B+, or even two, aren't going to kill things. Retake that one D class to make it an A and suddenly even her pre-reqs aren't outright *horrible*.
Regarding schools not looking at cum GPA - I'm sure you probably know better than I do. Since I had no intention of moving, I can't say I know much about other schools (I only applied at my IS). But the point is still valid: there are at least two schools that this person's cum GPA wouldn't matter at (clearly those are two she may want to target!), so there are two schools that with a solid track record from now on she could be competitive! Even with an A-/B+ or two.
I dunno. I was hesitant to post my thoughts because I didn't want to take too much off the emphasis that you and others gave of working really hard going forward to get solid grades. But I do have to disagree with you that it would necessarily require literally straight A's from here on out.
With regard to your other thread, OP, I think Dsmoody is on track - you're in a position where looking too far ahead isn't going to help you. See if you can get straight A's this next semester or two and then, once you've gained some confidence, start thinking about further down the road. You'll have other hurdles to jump, like gaining the vet experience the schools will want you to have. But none of that will matter if you don't make a drastic academic change for the better.
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You can take summer classes without graduating early, no problem. In order to graduate, you need to complete a certain number of units and required courses for your major. At my school, once you finish all your required courses for your major however, you MUST graduate. So anyone who wants to take courses that aren't required by their major, must take those before they finish their last required course. It may be different at your school, so I would check with your councilor.
Also, if you want you could take up a minor so you could have some area of focus in whichever extra courses you decide to take. I know a lot of animal science students who have a minor in biology, for example.
Also, if you want you could take up a minor so you could have some area of focus in whichever extra courses you decide to take. I know a lot of animal science students who have a minor in biology, for example.
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But... but.... but.... I wanna know how to do that? I'd like to go back and put a few bets on a few key games.
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I am pretty much 23 without a drivers license, had no one to depend on for transportation throughout undergrad and am entering this semester with no one to drive me around. I still managed to volunteer at 3 clinics, do veterinary work abroad, volunteer at 2 shelters and write a thesis. My commute was up to 2 hours both ways. This semester I have a 3.5 hour commute that I have to do every Friday because my ride bailed. I take the bus. I have walked in snow, slush, wind, extreme heat, extreme cold and rain to get animal/veterinary experience. And when those two methods failed, I took money out of my earnings and cabbed it. I also chose courses that would give me hands-on experience without leaving campus. If this is what you really want to do, walking, taking the bus, cabbing it or asking a friend for help should not be "hard". If you have problems getting around without someone to drive you... best of luck in the real world... or get up and move to a place where all your wants and desires are within walking/bussing distance. Bikes are a good way to get around too, or so I have heard. 👍.
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Wow,it sounds like you (the op) want a bunch of coddling. And as DsMoody said allyour sob story excuses aren't going to get you much. YOU have to be responsiblefor YOUR own s**t. Your mom didn't make you fail your exams. "Doingbetter" is not BBCC. That is subpar. So Get it together and quit whining.Your current attitude will NEVER get you into vet school
..the adcoms willsniff you out in the first 3 seconds, if you get that far.
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i didn't have family nearby OR transportation either, but I just accepted it and moved on. I also went to school where you really needed a car to get any sort of vet experience. I didn't use that as an excuse to be lackluster. Instead, I decided to maximize what I could do. I found like 3-4 small jobs in whatever I could find even if they weren't always steady jobs (dog walking, alum calling for school donations, science center guard desk at night, tutoring, babysitting etc...) so that I had a small reserve of cash. That was important for me because then money wasn't as much of an issue if I needed to tide myself over between school and summer opportunities and stuff. I scoured the job opportunities boards like all the time and took anything that I could do. I also took the school year to volunteer with kids and stuff since that's something I like doing, and because that's when I had time to do it since I wasn't getting vet/animal experiences during the school year. I also took on a very high courseload every semester and made sure I did a decent job, because I wanted to take care of everything academic when I had the opportunity to do so. I did not want to squander the time/money to do school during the summers/post-grad when I was already spending 4 years of tuition and time for school. I took like 6-10 upper level science courses above the requirements as well, and that only added to my preparation for vet school.
So then I used my summer months and even winter breaks to get all my experience. It's easier to get around no transportation when you have time, and aren't limited to the geographic location of your school. During the school year when I wasn't getting experience, I researched a ton of opportunities to apply for. I applied for public service grants that allowed me to take non-paid positions during the summer. I also shipped myself out of state for an internship that had provided housing and a small stipend. I also worked for one summer in the vet services dept of a humane society. I even took a semester off to do a 6 month paid internship and still graduated on time (again that was possible because I maximized my use of my other semesters). I ended up not applying straight out of UG because I felt like I needed more so I got a job in a research lab for two years and found an opportunity with a new animal rescue group that I got to run. And voila, here I am.
You can't let the fact that you can't do things like other people (with cars, with rides/support, etc...) stop you from doing the best you can. Regardless of your situation, there's no reason why you can't put 120% into something that's going to be helpful to get you into vet school at all times. At the rate you're going, you won't getqualityexperience during school because you don't have a car. And because you're doing so poorly in school with so many pre-reqs to go, you won't have the time to get good experience for a long time. And experience is one of those things that take investment too. The more effort/time you put in, the more things fall under your footsteps. There's nothing but yourself stopping you from doing most of the things I listed above. If you read through all of that and kept thinking, "oh, I can't do that because..." or "that might not be for me because...." after each thing then that's where you're going wrong.
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Epic moderator threadmerge action! Flex those mod muscles, minner!
Somewhere, another pre-vet student is so happy right now.
(You remember the orientation speeches? "Look to your right and to your left. Only one of you will get into vet school." They're almost certainly guaranteed a spot now if this is an example of some of the pre-vet major fillers!)
(You remember the orientation speeches? "Look to your right and to your left. Only one of you will get into vet school." They're almost certainly guaranteed a spot now if this is an example of some of the pre-vet major fillers!)
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She got 2 Bs and 2 Cs
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Just a friendly reminder that SDN has had some changes and we will be trying to encourage a friendly, helpful atmosphere (rule #2 of the ToS - "Be courteous and contribute positively. If youre not contributing to the forums in a positive manner, we reserve the right to temporarily or permanently close your account."). So let's try and be nice in here, even if you don't agree with the OP.
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Now, now. There was a remarkable degree of restraint and helpfulness in the initial incarnation of this thread.
I think I even offered to study coach the little fella. I was pretty much lying, but still...
What are we defining as a 'positive contribution?' It might be reasonable to say that the reaction the OP got here was the most positive one possible, in light of the situation. He/she may not know it yet, but public shaming is sometimes the most efficient route to getting your life together.
When I started posting here, I got shut down regularly and without much pleasantry. And that was definitely for the best. I was uninformed and not knowledgeable about much of anything related to the content here. Now, I check and double check the things I post seriously, and make sure my factual information is pretty much unimpeachable.
And that's all thanks to folks being mean to me. Yourself included.
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My first post was immediately SLAMMED by Nyanko (thanks Nyan!)... I too learned from that experience, even though my initial reaction may not have been so pleasant.
