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I'm sort of in the same boat. I would say if you're below the schools' average MCAT and GPA, you may be better off applying to another school with similar stats but a higher OOS percentage. On the other hand, if you have the money to apply to extra schools, go for it.
 

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MSU, OSU, Rowan, and OU may have an actual bias because they are state schools, but the others more likely have high percentage of IS just because there are a lot of applicants in those states who want to stay closer to home. Go ahead and apply
 

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Also, remember OU has some sort of must-practice-in-Ohio agreement, and that the out-of-state tuition for MSU is astronomical.
 
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Also, remember OU has some sort of must-practice-in-Ohio agreement, and that the out-of-state tuition for MSU is astronomical.
Yep, you will need to practice a minimum of 5 years in Ohio after medical school. Some residency programs will count towards this time, others will not and you will need utilize the 5 years during your time as an attending (also if you enter residency in another state, you will need come back).
 
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Are these schools worth applying to with mediocre stats? I know it may seem intuitive, but I just want to hear from others. I am applying to most DO schools, but are any of these an absolute waste of money without being a resident of the state?

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*Data gathered by me (OrdinaryDO) from http://www.aacom.org/docs/default-source/data-and-trends/2014_MatCOMState.pdf?sfvrsn=6

***This data is from 2014 matriculating class.
Those numbers mean absolutely jack, its only the state DO schools that are biased against out of state students. If you want to know if they are biased against out of state students find out the acceptance rate of in-state vs out of state and that will give you an idea if there is a bias. The state schools on that list probably are biased, the private schools I would wager are not.

Several of the schools on that list are private and not affiliated with any state university system whatsoever. A private university has no incentive to be biased to in state or regional students. In fact private schools actively recruit students from geographically diverse regions because it increases their profile.

The main reason there are mostly in state students at the private schools on the list is due to most applicants being from the state.
 
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If an SDNer asks me "WAMC"? and I see a state MD school with a 20% accept rate for OOSer, I tell them "go for it".

Touro, Wester and NYITCOM have no preference for IS vs OOS...it's just that the pools of competitive applicants are very high inNY and CA.

I normally mention that MSUCOM, OH- and OK-SOM's has a regional bias.

Are these schools worth applying to with mediocre stats? I know it may seem intuitive, but I just want to hear from others. I am applying to most DO schools, but are any of these an absolute waste of money without being a resident of the state?

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*Data gathered by me (OrdinaryDO) from http://www.aacom.org/docs/default-source/data-and-trends/2014_MatCOMState.pdf?sfvrsn=6

***This data is from 2014 matriculating class.
 
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If an SDNer asks me "WAMC"? and I see a state MD school with a 20% accept rate for OOSer, I tell them "go for it".

Touro, Wester and NYITCOM have no preference for IS vs OOS...it's just that the pools of competitive applicants are very high inNY and CA.

I normally mention that MSUCOM, OH- and OK-SOM's has a regional bias.
I would add the Northeast (New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Maryland, etc) and Chicago area as well. At most Ivy Schools, they are located in states with populations less than 5 million people, if you look up the demographics though, you will find that as much as 75 to 80 percent of the students come from the Northeast at most of the Ivy League universities. At a school like Stanford you get a geographic mix of students from all over, about 37 percent of the students are from California, with the rest from elsewhere, so they clearly do not have a bias towards in state, sure a large percent of their students are from in state but they seem to recruit students from all over the country and every region of the planet.

Duke the is the same as well, for a while though Duke was kind of like a Harvard for Southerners and was biased strongly towards students from the Southeast, but Duke has students from all over, including in its medical school.

AZCOM lists itself as having a lot of out of state students, but the entire state has a population less than San Diego and as much as 40 percent of the school comes from California. Its practically the third California DO school.

University of California might be less biased towards California students than most people think, the UC schools have moved to make themselves look more like the Ivy League so they tend to recruit students from all over the country and the world, but I would say they still would have a bias towards students from in state. Although I have heard that they have aggressively recruited students who would otherwise attend elite East Coast Ivy League schools, most of these students coming from private boarding schools in the Northeast. UC is different from the public institutions because they act more like private schools and in California you got the California State University system which is heavily biased towards CA students.

Generally speaking its absolutely silly and illogical for any private school to have region or in state bias when it comes to selecting students. Schools want to build their brand, and the best way to do this is to get people from far and wide.
 
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