Inflation, Interest Rates and the Economy for 2025

[UscGhost]

Whats a pipe dream is the libtard environmentalist agenda. We dont have the resources and we’re going bankrupt. Open your eyes.

Totally.

Those libtards created an entire EV industry, wind, solar and renewables. All of which are now cheaper and more efficient than fossil fuels. Not to mention that renewables are responsible for more jobs, more job growth and better paying jobs than fossil fuels.

And given that humanity has already F'ed this planet... probably best if try and not accelerate the process further.

But hey, keep betting on coal and gas. I am sure that will work out well for you in 50 years. I presume you live close to a oil refinery or coal power plant? After all, wouldn't want to accuse you of being concerned about the environment

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[cchoukal]

Well, just to play devils advocate, is he really talking about fossil fuels, or is he talking about minerals, like copper and lithium? There is certainly a trade-off between exploiting some of our public lands to mine for those critical elements for the greener energy economy, versus continuing to rely on Importing those things from less stable trading partners abroad. Not that I don’t generally agree with you, but continuing to get rare earth minerals and lithium from elsewhere isn’t free, either.

 

[nimbus]

Well, just to play devils advocate, is he really talking about fossil fuels, or is he talking about minerals, like copper and lithium? There is certainly a trade-off between exploiting some of our public lands to mine for those critical elements for the greener energy economy, versus continuing to rely on Importing those things from less stable trading partners abroad. Not that I don’t generally agree with you, but continuing to get rare earth minerals and lithium from elsewhere isn’t free, either.

Just to play devils advocate, we had very stable trading partners until the very stable genius turned the USA into the most unstable trading partner on the planet.

 

[TeslaCoil]

Well, just to play devils advocate, is he really talking about fossil fuels, or is he talking about minerals, like copper and lithium? There is certainly a trade-off between exploiting some of our public lands to mine for those critical elements for the greener energy economy, versus continuing to rely on Importing those things from less stable trading partners abroad. Not that I don’t generally agree with you, but continuing to get rare earth minerals and lithium from elsewhere isn’t free, either.

Thank you. That is exactly what im talking about. Promoting solar and EV from one side of the mouth and then throwing terms like “strip mining” from the other side. Typical. EV and solar will grind to a halt if we dont start mining for the minerals. Nobody wants to continue using fossil fuels. I certainly dont, Im not an idiot. But when you have malevolent global competitors out there, cutting off your own economic legs from under yourself so to speak is about the most re7arded thing you can do. And thats what the Biden administration did. Hes over here lecturing me about the environment. He is blind and deaf to the economic reality of the situation.

 

[TeslaCoil]

Just to play devils advocate, we had very stable trading partners until the very stable genius turned the USA into the most unstable trading partner on the planet.

Ha. Yea a straight steady stable path to bankruptcy.

We have the negotiating leverage to get better deals. Period. And we NEED better deals. Not hard to understand.

 

[MirrorTodd]

Ha. Yea a straight steady stable path to bankruptcy.

We have the negotiating leverage to get better deals. Period. And we NEED better deals. Not hard to understand.

lol have you seen the budget they put out?

 

[nimbus]

Ha. Yea a straight steady stable path to bankruptcy.

We have the negotiating leverage to get better deals. Period. And we NEED better deals. Not hard to understand.

How are we getting better deals?

 

[TeslaCoil]

lol have you seen the budget they put out?

Yes. The problems arent going to go “poof! and get fixed overnight. You cant fix decades of bad economic policy within the first 100 days of a presidency.

 

[Southpaw]

if you ask Tesla a question I’m pretty sure you can give yourself the answer. It’s like typing a question into MAGA AI-bot.

 

[cchoukal]

Yes. The problems arent going to go “poof! and get fixed overnight. You cant fix decades of bad economic policy within the first 100 days of a presidency.

Well, no, but he didn’t have to add $4 trillion to the debt.

As for Nimbus point, while I agree, wholeheartedly that Trump‘s approach is that of a Dingus, I think that a lot of the minerals for electric car batteries, for example, we’re already coming from places that were not terrific, and there is certainly a national security case to be made for on-shoring the development of these resources, notwithstanding that mining lithium is probably as bad for our sources of freshwater as burning fossil fuel is for global warming.

 

[nimbus]

I’m a simpleton. Can someone explain how this is helping us?


“It’s time that we play the game the way I know how to play the game,” Trump told reporters in the Oval Office. “I’m not looking for a deal. We’ve set the deal — it’s at 50 percent.”
The White House will also move ahead with fresh 25 percent tariffs on phone manufacturers in an effort to punish tech giant Apple for declining to make its iPhones exclusively in the U.S., Trump said.

The abrupt decisions underscored the intensifying pressure Trump faces to cut dozens of trade deals before a self-imposed July deadline that White House officials once suggested the administration would easily meet. The president has reserved much of his ire for the European Union, the 27-country bloc that represents the administration’s biggest trade target — yet also perhaps its most difficult.

“Trump is frustrated that the Europeans aren’t rushing to the negotiating table,” said Stephen Moore, an outside economic adviser to Trump. The president’s actions today are “meant to get them to act.”

The trade threats, which roiled markets in the U.S. and abroad, came after Trump in a pair of Truth Social posts earlier Friday accused the EU of being “very difficult to deal with” and Apple CEO Tim Cook of failing to cooperate by shifting more of the company’s manufacturing to the United States.“

‘I’m not looking for a deal’: Trump revives global trade war

The president vowed to hit the European Union and phone manufacturers with new tariffs.

www.politico.com

 

[MirrorTodd]

I’m a simpleton. Can someone explain how this is helping us?


“It’s time that we play the game the way I know how to play the game,” Trump told reporters in the Oval Office. “I’m not looking for a deal. We’ve set the deal — it’s at 50 percent.”
The White House will also move ahead with fresh 25 percent tariffs on phone manufacturers in an effort to punish tech giant Apple for declining to make its iPhones exclusively in the U.S., Trump said.

The abrupt decisions underscored the intensifying pressure Trump faces to cut dozens of trade deals before a self-imposed July deadline that White House officials once suggested the administration would easily meet. The president has reserved much of his ire for the European Union, the 27-country bloc that represents the administration’s biggest trade target — yet also perhaps its most difficult.

“Trump is frustrated that the Europeans aren’t rushing to the negotiating table,” said Stephen Moore, an outside economic adviser to Trump. The president’s actions today are “meant to get them to act.”

The trade threats, which roiled markets in the U.S. and abroad, came after Trump in a pair of Truth Social posts earlier Friday accused the EU of being “very difficult to deal with” and Apple CEO Tim Cook of failing to cooperate by shifting more of the company’s manufacturing to the United States.“

‘I’m not looking for a deal’: Trump revives global trade war

The president vowed to hit the European Union and phone manufacturers with new tariffs.

www.politico.com

S&P 3k?

 

[deleted1130227]

S&P 3k?

or 30K from the melt money printing and dollar debasement.

 

[deleted1130227]

Totally.

Those libtards created an entire EV industry, wind, solar and renewables. All of which are now cheaper and more efficient than fossil fuels. Not to mention that renewables are responsible for more jobs, more job growth and better paying jobs than fossil fuels.

And given that humanity has already F'ed this planet... probably best if try and not accelerate the process further.

But hey, keep betting on coal and gas. I am sure that will work out well for you in 50 years. I presume you live close to a oil refinery or coal power plant? After all, wouldn't want to accuse you of being concerned about the environment

 

[maxxor]

I’m a simpleton. Can someone explain how this is helping us?


“It’s time that we play the game the way I know how to play the game,” Trump told reporters in the Oval Office. “I’m not looking for a deal. We’ve set the deal — it’s at 50 percent.”
The White House will also move ahead with fresh 25 percent tariffs on phone manufacturers in an effort to punish tech giant Apple for declining to make its iPhones exclusively in the U.S., Trump said.

The abrupt decisions underscored the intensifying pressure Trump faces to cut dozens of trade deals before a self-imposed July deadline that White House officials once suggested the administration would easily meet. The president has reserved much of his ire for the European Union, the 27-country bloc that represents the administration’s biggest trade target — yet also perhaps its most difficult.

“Trump is frustrated that the Europeans aren’t rushing to the negotiating table,” said Stephen Moore, an outside economic adviser to Trump. The president’s actions today are “meant to get them to act.”

The trade threats, which roiled markets in the U.S. and abroad, came after Trump in a pair of Truth Social posts earlier Friday accused the EU of being “very difficult to deal with” and Apple CEO Tim Cook of failing to cooperate by shifting more of the company’s manufacturing to the United States.“

‘I’m not looking for a deal’: Trump revives global trade war

The president vowed to hit the European Union and phone manufacturers with new tariffs.

www.politico.com

At this point, it’s got to be some combination of

1. Stock manipulation (Apple or the greater market)
2. Deliberate economic suicide for the benefit of the billionaire class
3. Pushing more to a crypto financial system. The pardon of Ross Ulbricht should have been a bigger news story than it was.

 

[TeslaCoil]

I’m a simpleton. Can someone explain how this is helping us?


“It’s time that we play the game the way I know how to play the game,” Trump told reporters in the Oval Office. “I’m not looking for a deal. We’ve set the deal — it’s at 50 percent.”
The White House will also move ahead with fresh 25 percent tariffs on phone manufacturers in an effort to punish tech giant Apple for declining to make its iPhones exclusively in the U.S., Trump said.

The abrupt decisions underscored the intensifying pressure Trump faces to cut dozens of trade deals before a self-imposed July deadline that White House officials once suggested the administration would easily meet. The president has reserved much of his ire for the European Union, the 27-country bloc that represents the administration’s biggest trade target — yet also perhaps its most difficult.

“Trump is frustrated that the Europeans aren’t rushing to the negotiating table,” said Stephen Moore, an outside economic adviser to Trump. The president’s actions today are “meant to get them to act.”

The trade threats, which roiled markets in the U.S. and abroad, came after Trump in a pair of Truth Social posts earlier Friday accused the EU of being “very difficult to deal with” and Apple CEO Tim Cook of failing to cooperate by shifting more of the company’s manufacturing to the United States.“

‘I’m not looking for a deal’: Trump revives global trade war

The president vowed to hit the European Union and phone manufacturers with new tariffs.

www.politico.com

Keep reading politico it’ll really give you the unbiased truth. 😂

Give it a few months. We are already in talks with China. I dont think you understand just how devastating not coming to a fair trade agreement with us would be for them. At this point I would go so far as to call them our enemy. They should be squeezed like a grape.

You are missing the forest from the trees. We are headed rapidly toward economic disaster. The bond auction the other day is a perfect sign of the times.

 

[nimbus]

Keep reading politico it’ll really give you the unbiased truth. 😂

Give it a few months. We are already in talks with China. I dont think you understand just how devastating not coming to a fair trade agreement with us would be for them. At this point I would go so far as to call them our enemy. They should be squeezed like a grape.

Politico just quoted Trump and his advisors. Guess I could have just quoted his truth social posts.


China is an authoritarian state and they’re used to suffering. They don’t have elections every few years. It’s unlikely we’ll win a sufferfest against them.

Has Trump onshored MAGA hats, data centers, and Bitcoin mining yet?

 

[TeslaCoil]

Politico just quoted Trump and his advisors. Guess I could have just quoted his truth social posts.


China is an authoritarian state and they’re used to suffering. It’s unlikely we’ll win a sufferfest against them.

We already are. Their shipyards are inundated with backed up goods that have nowhere to go. Unless they are suicidal they will bend.

 

[nimbus]

We already are. Their shipyards are inundated with backed up goods that have nowhere to go. Unless they are suicidal they will bend.

China just went through Covid. They’re used to it.

 

[psychbender]

Politico just quoted Trump and his advisors. Guess I could have just quoted his truth social posts.


China is an authoritarian state and they’re used to suffering. They don’t have elections every few years. It’s unlikely we’ll win a sufferfest against them.

Has Trump onshored MAGA hats, data centers, and Bitcoin mining yet?

One of my favorite quotes heard regarding this mess was something to the effect of, "we can remain ******ed longer than they can remain solvent." I don't know how accurate that statement is, but it certainly is poetic.

 

[MirrorTodd]

One of my favorite quotes heard regarding this mess was something to the effect of, "we can remain ******ed longer than they can remain solvent." I don't know how accurate that statement is, but it certainly is poetic.

Realistically, we can't though. At least, I don't believe we can. Americans are soft, we just are. That statement in your post certainly applies to rich people who can afford to **** off, but not to the general populace.

 

[UscGhost]

Thank you. That is exactly what im talking about. Promoting solar and EV from one side of the mouth and then throwing terms like “strip mining” from the other side. Typical. EV and solar will grind to a halt if we dont start mining for the minerals. Nobody wants to continue using fossil fuels. I certainly dont, Im not an idiot. But when you have malevolent global competitors out there, cutting off your own economic legs from under yourself so to speak is about the most re7arded thing you can do. And thats what the Biden administration did. Hes over here lecturing me about the environment. He is blind and deaf to the economic reality of the situation.

Well the only competitor is China..and it's for rare earths. And Biden helped to expedite multiple new mines..the first in 50 years

https://m.miningweekly.com/article/greenlight-for-first-new-us-rare-earths-mine-in-70-years-2023-08-08#:~:text=Initial%20mine%20development%20work%20on,initial%20target%20disclosed%20in%20May.

FACT SHEET: Biden-Harris Administration Takes Further Action to Strengthen and Secure Critical Mineral Supply Chains | The White House

Department of Energy Battery Supply Chain Awards Build on Four Years of Whole-of-Government Effort to Increase Domestic and Allied Supply of Critical

bidenwhitehouse.archives.gov

 

[UscGhost]

Keep reading politico it’ll really give you the unbiased truth. 😂

Give it a few months. We are already in talks with China. I dont think you understand just how devastating not coming to a fair trade agreement with us would be for them. At this point I would go so far as to call them our enemy. They should be squeezed like a grape.

You are missing the forest from the trees. We are headed rapidly toward economic disaster. The bond auction the other day is a perfect sign of the times.

Yea, that's what happens when you propose a tax plan that balloons the debt in order to pay for an unnecessary tax cuts for the rich

 

[We'llBeDoneIn15Minutes]

Once all of this tariff chaos settles out the market has 2 very viable paths, an ai boom taking productivity and therefore the market and valuations much higher, or a massive crash due to debt, a struggling bond market to service that debt, and a financial crisis.

Both are very reasonable logical paths, particularly sitting here right on a 100 year trendline of all previous peaks back to 1929, that one can't be sure with a lot of conviction until it plays out. One thing I do know for sure, Trump's tariffs and trade agreements once completed will be a much smaller factor in which way the market settles out, BUT, all of his haters and disciples will respectively assign Trump all of the blame if we crash and all of the credit if we boom, and neither could be further from the truth.

I see no reason to get off of the William Devane plan heavily weighted towards gold. In my opinion there are potential paths for collapse of both stocks and Bitcoin, but only consolidations and corrective pullbacks for gold with still much upward movement over at least the next few years.

 

[We'llBeDoneIn15Minutes]

At least for now Bitcoin is passing the obligatory retest of the new all-time high breakout. I wouldn't say it's in the clear as Bitcoin does closely follow the stock market, and we'll have to see if the trade war skirmish that took down the markets Friday continues this week.

 

[UscGhost]

Thank you. That is exactly what im talking about. Promoting solar and EV from one side of the mouth and then throwing terms like “strip mining” from the other side. Typical. EV and solar will grind to a halt if we dont start mining for the minerals. Nobody wants to continue using fossil fuels. I certainly dont, Im not an idiot. But when you have malevolent global competitors out there, cutting off your own economic legs from under yourself so to speak is about the most re7arded thing you can do. And thats what the Biden administration did. Hes over here lecturing me about the environment. He is blind and deaf to the economic reality of the situation.

Well the only competitor is China..and it's for rare earths. And Biden helped to expedite

FACT SHEET: Biden-Harris Administration Takes Further Action to Strengthen and Secure Critical Mineral Supply Chains | The White House

Department of Energy Battery Supply Chain Awards Build on Four Years of Whole-of-Government Effort to Increase Domestic and Allied Supply of Critical

bidenwhitehouse.archives.gov

 

[pgg]

Keep reading politico it’ll really give you the unbiased truth

Says the guy who linked a $49 infomercial scam about a $150T trust fund.

JFC, man, get a grip.

 

[TeslaCoil]

Says the guy who linked a $49 infomercial scam about a $150T trust fund.

JFC, man, get a grip.

I guess motley fool is a scam in your book as well?

I dunno how many times I can say it. Im not endorsing his newsletter. Just agreeing with what he was saying about the economy and the minerals etc.

 

[pgg]

I guess motley fool is a scam in your book as well?

Dunno, I quit reading them a couple decades ago after the Foolish Four thing taught me that financial media is all garbage. All of it.

I dunno how many times I can say it. Im not endorsing his newsletter. Just agreeing with what he was saying about the economy and the minerals etc.

I'm just giving you **** because you threw shade at Politico right after linking an infomercial.

 

[TeslaCoil]

Dunno, I quit reading them a couple decades ago after the Foolish Four thing taught me that financial media is all garbage. All of it.


I'm just giving you **** because you threw shade at Politico right after linking an infomercial.

Exactly so i put it in the same category, which is 50/50 garbage and accuracy. Not worth money. But sometimes these insiders have great economic insight.

You can give me isht all you like but if you have any drop of critical thinking you will also admit within the same breath that politico is heavily biased. Also rendering it essentially useless.

 

[GravelRider]

I guess motley fool is a scam in your book as well?

I dunno how many times I can say it. Im not endorsing his newsletter. Just agreeing with what he was saying about the economy and the minerals etc.

Motley Fool is and was always a scam. A decade ago it was a little more polished than some other internet scams at the time, but it always peddled weird get rich quick schemes masquerading as investment advice.

 

[TeslaCoil]

Motley Fool is and was always a scam. A decade ago it was a little more polished than some other internet scams at the time, but it always peddled weird get rich quick schemes masquerading as investment advice.

Some people swear by it 🤷🏻‍♂️

 

[pgg]

Some people swear by it 🤷🏻‍♂️

The neat thing (and I'm not even being sarcastic!) about the last 15 years of bull markets all around is that everyone made money. The flip side to that is that many people think they made money because they're smart.

We're living in an era in which most people under 45-50 have never been invested through a market downturn that lasted longer than a few months. They got through COVID and TrumpTariff and think they're some kind of Warren Buffet prodigy.

Just about all investment advice since the 2008 crisis, except "sell everything and hoard cash" worked out. You could've thrown a dart at a board full of investment advice web gurus and unless you landed on Jim Cramer you'd probably have done OK.

You can give me isht all you like but if you have any drop of critical thinking you will also admit within the same breath that politico is heavily biased. Also rendering it essentially useless.

All media is biased. It doesn't take a lot of effort to tell the difference between fact and opinion, though.

This chart isn't perfect but it's not bad. Politico definitely leans left, but I wouldn't call it heavily biased.

 

[TeslaCoil]

The neat thing (and I'm not even being sarcastic!) about the last 15 years of bull markets all around is that everyone made money. The flip side to that is that many people think they made money because they're smart.

We're living in an era in which most people under 45-50 have never been invested through a market downturn that lasted longer than a few months. They got through COVID and TrumpTariff and think they're some kind of Warren Buffet prodigy.

Just about all investment advice since the 2008 crisis, except "sell everything and hoard cash" worked out. You could've thrown a dart at a board full of investment advice web gurus and unless you landed on Jim Cramer you'd probably have done OK.




All media is biased. It doesn't take a lot of effort to tell the difference between fact and opinion, though.

This chart isn't perfect but it's not bad. Politico definitely leans left, but I wouldn't call it heavily biased.

Thats fair on the first point. Although I do have some trader friends who buy high and sell low. 😂

On the second point I have to disagree. My opinion is that it is heavily biased.

 

[<(^_^)>]

The neat thing (and I'm not even being sarcastic!) about the last 15 years of bull markets all around is that everyone made money. The flip side to that is that many people think they made money because they're smart.

We're living in an era in which most people under 45-50 have never been invested through a market downturn that lasted longer than a few months. They got through COVID and TrumpTariff and think they're some kind of Warren Buffet prodigy.

Just about all investment advice since the 2008 crisis, except "sell everything and hoard cash" worked out. You could've thrown a dart at a board full of investment advice web gurus and unless you landed on Jim Cramer you'd probably have done OK.




All media is biased. It doesn't take a lot of effort to tell the difference between fact and opinion, though.

This chart isn't perfect but it's not bad. Politico definitely leans left, but I wouldn't call it heavily biased.

100% agree. There is a growing sentiment that stocks will not be allowed to go down for a prolonged period, so why not lever up your risk exposure to >100% stocks? And the sad thing is they may be right…

 

[We'llBeDoneIn15Minutes]

100% agree. There is a growing sentiment that stocks will not be allowed to go down for a prolonged period, so why not lever up your risk exposure to >100% stocks? And the sad thing is they may be right…

Futures are significantly up looking to gap right over any losses on Friday. When bad news is repeatedly overlooked like it's nothing, such as the debt downgrade and then potentially large tariffs on Europe, it's a sign the forces for now pushing up the market are strong.

 

[Splenda88]

Futures are significantly up looking to gap right over any losses on Friday. When bad news is repeatedly overlooked like it's nothing, such as the debt downgrade and then potentially large tariffs on Europe, it's a sign the forces for now pushing up the market are strong.

We have a few billionaires controlling everything. I am all in MGA7 except TSLA and GOOG for the next 5-10 years.

 

[JiPo]

We have a few billionaires controlling everything. I am all in MGA7 except TSLA and GOOG for the next 5-10 years.

Why not TSLA and GOOG?

 

[pgg]

Why not TSLA and GOOG?

I don't pick individual stocks, but if I did, I wouldn't buy TSLA. It's a car company that's going to struggle to sell cars for the foreseeable future, it's ridiculously overvalued, handicapped by Elon Musk dabbling in politics (to say the least), and despite being a first mover in the EV market, now faces growing competition from other manufacturers.

There are people who will argue that TSLA isn't a car company - that it's a "technology" company and worth its stock price because of AI and self-driving tech and because it'll have a monopoly over consumer transportation on Mars because of Elon and SpaceX, but those people are wrong.

 

[Splenda88]

Why not TSLA and GOOG?

I had TSLA and sold it before the election.

One question that people have to ask themselves. What do you think will happen to TSLA if a democrat becomes president? You don't think there will be payback.

Never had a chance to buy GOOG. I should have bought it at the beginning (early April) of the tariff debacle. Now, I feel like is too high. I can use that money to buy more AMZN, which has more growth potential.

 

[maxxor]

I had TSLA and sold it before the election.

One question that people have to ask themselves. What do you think will happen to TSLA if a democrat becomes president? You don't think there will be payback.

Never had a chance to buy GOOG. I should have bought it at the beginning (early April) of the tariff debacle. Now, I feel like is too high. I can use that money to buy more AMZN, which has more growth potential.

Gemini is incredible. I’d sprinkle some Google too.

 

[Direct Laryngoscopy]

There are people who will argue that TSLA isn't a car company - that it's a "technology" company and worth its stock price because of AI and self-driving tech and because it'll have a monopoly over consumer transportation on Mars because of Elon and SpaceX, but those people are wrong.

Wrong on hodling $TSLA stock or taking over the world. $TSLA stockholders have been winning for some time. Numbers don’t lie.

 

[pgg]

Wrong on hodling $TSLA stock or taking over the world. $TSLA stockholders have been winning for some time. Numbers don’t lie.

The relevant question is whether new buyers of TSLA will make money from here out. I'm skeptical.

But again, I don't buy individual stocks.

I own TSLA in whatever proportion any of my index funds own it.

You're very certain about things that are unknowable. You might even end up being right. It's your certainty and dogmatism that gives me pause.

 

[Direct Laryngoscopy]

You're very certain about things that are unknowable. You might even end up being right. It's your certainty and dogmatism that gives me pause.

I am certain you know nothing about me.

 

[pgg]

I am certain you know nothing about me.

I am certain you've posted with great certainty about certainly many things. That's all I know about you. 🙂

 

[UscGhost]

I had TSLA and sold it before the election.

One question that people have to ask themselves. What do you think will happen to TSLA if a democrat becomes president? You don't think there will be payback.

Never had a chance to buy GOOG. I should have bought it at the beginning (early April) of the tariff debacle. Now, I feel like is too high. I can use that money to buy more AMZN, which has more growth potential.

Democratic leaders don't tend to fixate on retribution like Desantis and Trump do. Trump and Desantis use it as a political strategy. Trumps entire platform is based on retribution (against foreign countries, immigrants, equality, etc)

So I am not worried about Tesla from that perspective. Tesla is key to the renewables/EV goals.

Will Elon overreact to every perceived slight or regulation imposed by a Democrat and scream "it's retribution!"..of course he will

 

[TeslaCoil]

Democratic leaders don't tend to fixate on retribution like Desantis and Trump do. Trump and Desantis use it as a political strategy. Trumps entire platform is based on retribution (against foreign countries, immigrants, equality, etc)

So I am not worried about Tesla from that perspective. Tesla is key to the renewables/EV goals.

Will Elon overreact to every perceived slight or regulation imposed by a Democrat and scream "it's retribution!"..of course he will

Riiiight, thats why they tried to bury trump in legal troubles piled sky high. Not like them to be vengeful or spiteful at all. And not like you to be biased whatsoever. Never. 😏🙄

Good thing they suck at everything. Even that.

 

[TeslaCoil]

Wrong on hodling $TSLA stock or taking over the world. $TSLA stockholders have been winning for some time. Numbers don’t lie.

I agree. If you properly understand Tesla its pretty obvious that its the unstoppable future much in the way microsoft was in 1994.

 

[Direct Laryngoscopy]

I am certain you've posted with great certainty about certainly many things. That's all I know about you. 🙂

Like I said, you know nothing about me. Stay in your lane.

 

[Gern Blansten]

You're very certain about things that are unknowable. You might even end up being right. It's your certainty and dogmatism that gives me pause.

You expressed just as much “certainty” in the opposite direction when you said, “those people are wrong.” (Post 1889)
I don’t know who is correct, but you’re calling him out as untrustworthy for the exact same thing you did only a few posts upstream.
How do you reconcile that?