Intra-professional humiliation (??!!)

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ok, so I saw this paradox last week, and it kicked me thinking for a while about what this whole profession is about...
Morning, I went to the hospital for school stuff-we were supposed to shadow a preceptor on rounds just to see how it's done (what a relief cause I'm sick at all those IPPE reatails since I've been counting and licking for almost my whole life). My preceptor is a nice and humble guy with 2 years of residency and almost 8 years practicing ICU clinical pharmacy. As we were standing at the nurse station preping the paper and charts, there was this J-erk. *****-face guy advancing to us and patting my preceptor's back
JA..-face: "Hey S. long time no see, so you work here??"
My Preceptor: "Hi J., yeah how has it been? I've been a preceptor here for almost 3 years now after leaving xxxx where I did 2 years of residency"
JA..-face: "Yeah yeah I remember your name on that papers. I started with XYZ [a retail chain] and now I'm the manager. I gotta feed my mouth ya know" (sarcastic voice)
My preceptor: "That's good" (a bit awkward reply)
Ja.-face: "So how is it like to be the MD's B*tch? You kiss their behind really good huh?" (laughing a bit in saracasm) "There are some fine gal doctors around here I see" (really sarcasm, not at all a friendly joke between buddies)
OMG I just wanted to punch this effing j-erk right away. Yo, at least if you want to say things like that pull your friend over to a corner, don't just say it in front of his students and a few nurses... SO my preceptor just smiled and said "I'm happy at what I do now." I just stared at that ***** face for a bit and saw the nurses in the break room kinda laughed (the a-hole said it really loud). Later, I found out that the ***** face had some relatives staying at hospital and just paid a visist and ran into my preceptor.
Then after lunch I came into the "dungeon" pharm department to chitchat with some of the staff pharmacists there to see what it's like. Oh mine, they ridiculed all these new grads coming out and running into retail at once and not going for clinical training. One of the ladies even compared these new grad running into retail like moths running into candles' flame 🙂meanie:--my fav quote of the date).
At the end of the day, I asked my preceptor nicely "So you know that guy this moring" "Yeah he was my classmate back in when we were in school, he was really socially active then" (smile)
On the way home, I kept thinking about the paradox of this retail vs. clinical "story", chasing its own tail. I know, there are a bunch of threads on here comparing the two paths and please don't start another fight because of my story. I just need to vent a bit cause I really like this preceptor (hope to have him for my P4 rotation: the way he deals with people really really nice and professional).
What would you do if you were my preceptor facing that *****-face in that situation?? I already told my way of dealing with that j-erk 😡
 
the douche nozzle guy made a fool of himself just by acting like himself! The nurses were laughing at him and sure, a witty comment would have been helpful but I think he dug his own grave. Sounds like a class act.
 
If the guy is a chronic d-bag I'm sure his co-workers, family, etc all know it. People suck, that's the way it is.
 
the douche nozzle guy made a fool of himself just by acting like himself! The nurses were laughing at him and sure, a witty comment would have been helpful but I think he dug his own grave. Sounds like a class act.

Yup. If I were the clinical pharmacist, I would have asked this pro retail guy a question regarding patient care. What would he use to treat your patient in room 212 with a certain condition. When he sat there with a confused look on his face, I'd have pat HIS back and told him to have a nice day... then maybe as I walked away, look back over my shoulder and said, "by the way, Mrs. Jones called and needs her once daily boniva script refilled."
 
Yup. If I were the clinical pharmacist, I would have asked this pro retail guy a question regarding patient care. What would he use to treat your patient in room 212 with a certain condition. When he sat there with a confused look on his face, I'd have pat HIS back and told him to have a nice day... then maybe as I walked away, look back over my shoulder and said, "by the way, Mrs. Jones called and needs her once daily boniva script refilled."

Or you could go to his pharmacy counter with 30 or so pieces of 50 cent candy, ask him to ring you up, and insist they are all on sale even though they are ringing up at the normal price. It would be best to do this during peak hours when there are at least 3 people in line behind you.
 
Wow a pharmacy student and a pre-pharmacy student commenting....You guys are really the experts....Thanks for your insightful comments👎

It has been discussed Ad nauseam.....there is no need for further comment.
 
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Wow a pharmacy student and a pre-pharmacy student commenting....You guys are really the experts....Thanks for your insightful comments👎

It has been discussed Ad nauseam.....there is no need for further comment.

last time i checked this was a public forum.. the guy's just discussing a situation that occurred at work give him a break!
 
Wow a pharmacy student and a pre-pharmacy student commenting....You guys are really the experts....Thanks for your insightful comments👎

It has been discussed Ad nauseam.....there is no need for further comment.
what do you mean? I am in no way to look down on retail pharmacists cause I've been lucky enough to have worked with a few who are the top. I was just venting a bit about the j-erk behavior and posing something I found funny during my time in the hospital. relax dude 😀!
 
Or you could go to his pharmacy counter with 30 or so pieces of 50 cent candy, ask him to ring you up, and insist they are all on sale even though they are ringing up at the normal price. It would be best to do this during peak hours when there are at least 3 people in line behind you.
:laugh: awesome suggestions... though I myself told people asking me to ring up there doritos to go to the front all the time. But right on man!!😉
 
Yup. If I were the clinical pharmacist, I would have asked this pro retail guy a question regarding patient care. What would he use to treat your patient in room 212 with a certain condition. When he sat there with a confused look on his face, I'd have pat HIS back and told him to have a nice day... then maybe as I walked away, look back over my shoulder and said, "by the way, Mrs. Jones called and needs her once daily boniva script refilled."
🙂 I guess my preceptor is a nice guy, plus after having gone through that much training like he has, any decent person has learned enough humility to act professional and mature in such situation.
 
re: the retail v. hospital wars. We are all in the same profession and if you are happy in your job and your position (not pointing at OP or anyone in particular) why feel the need to bash another person's job? What concern is it of yours if retail is so much better than hospital or vice versa? As long as that person is happy and serving a function in a job it really shouldn't matter what the hell they are doing. If you need constant reassurance that you are better than everyone else, then just go pick on that handicapped kid down the way.
 
Yup. If I were the clinical pharmacist, I would have asked this pro retail guy a question regarding patient care. What would he use to treat your patient in room 212 with a certain condition. When he sat there with a confused look on his face, I'd have pat HIS back and told him to have a nice day... then maybe as I walked away, look back over my shoulder and said, "by the way, Mrs. Jones called and needs her once daily boniva script refilled."

So... you'd be a "douche bag," but from the other end of the spectrum.

I think you may have missed the point of the post.

OP: That's just life, man. In any profession, there are gonna be people who live in their self-constructed ivory towers judging others who don't have the same interests as them. You just have to make sure your own moral compass is pointing in the right direction, and act accordingly.
 
Wow a pharmacy student and a pre-pharmacy student commenting....You guys are really the experts....Thanks for your insightful comments👎

It has been discussed Ad nauseam.....there is no need for further comment.
Thanks Debbie Downer. 🙄

Just ignore him. He is very bitter and unhappy person. He hates where he lives and he hates where he works. He is so far past Debbie Downer....he makes her look like an optimist.....
 
I think you also need to look at their friendship. I think some people may find that to be rude but again, it depends on their friendship.

There are positives and negatives to both professions. There is really no need continue to bash each other. If retail does poorly, then more pharmacists would compete for hospital positions and vise versa. Let's just hope we are happy at where we are at and both professions will continue to thrive.
 
Just ignore him. He is very bitter and unhappy person. He hates where he lives and he hates where he works. He is so far past Debbie Downer....he makes her look like an optimist.....

No Old Timer that would describe your typical CVS pharmacist....Perhaps a slice of your life? You are obviously delusional as you are the only CVS pharmacist who likes their job...again I believe delusional is a good word to describe you because no CVS pharmacist likes thier job.
 
last time i checked this was a public forum.. the guy's just discussing a situation that occurred at work give him a break!

Wow really?!?! Last time you checked this was a public forum? Is there a place on SDN where you can verify the public status of the forum? It must be a sub-forum in the I have nothing intelligent to post forum.
 
No Old Timer that would describe your typical CVS pharmacist....Perhaps a slice of your life? You are obviously delusional as you are the only CVS pharmacist who likes their job...again I believe delusional is a good word to describe you because no CVS pharmacist likes thier job.

You are a one note Charlie. What does this have to do with CVS? Nothing at all. CVS bad, others good. You play your note over and spew your venom. It's sooooooo obvious you are not happy. It's really a shame. It's time to quit your job and move back to the middle of the country and open your own place where you can be happy.

I'm not qualified to post because:

You are obviously delusional
and
you are the only CVS pharmacist who likes their job

Others are not qualified to post because:
a pharmacy student and a pre-pharmacy student commenting....You guys are really the experts....

Just think of the things you say and they way they make others feel. You should not inflict your unhappiness on others. I have thick skin and I could care less what you call me. When students post here, you should give them a little leeway and realize they lack a certain perspective that they will gain over time.

I suggest you find a copy of
Chofetz Chaim: A Daily Companion and take it's teaching's to heart. It is too short to go through life acting like:

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You are obviously delusional as you are the only CVS pharmacist who likes their job...again I believe delusional is a good word to describe you because no CVS pharmacist likes thier job.

I know plenty of CVS pharmacists who absolutely love their jobs.

I love my job as an intern for CVS (although I know that doesn't count in your book).

Your job is what you make it; if you want to complain about it constantly, then it will suck. If you decide to actually try and enjoy yourself and help others, then maybe you won't hate your life quite so much.
 
You are a one note Charlie. What does this have to do with CVS? Nothing at all. CVS bad, others good. You play your note over and spew your venom. It's sooooooo obvious you are not happy. It's really a shame. It's time to quit your job and move back to the middle of the country and open your own place where you can be happy.

I'm not qualified to post because:


and​



Others are not qualified to post because:​




Just think of the things you say and they way they make others feel. You should not inflict your unhappiness on others. I have thick skin and I could care less what you call me. When students post here, you should give them a little leeway and realize they lack a certain perspective that they will gain over time.​



I suggest you find a copy of


Chofetz Chaim: A Daily Companion and take it's teaching's to heart. It is too short to go through life acting like:



grinch.jpg
Good sir... I read some of your post earlier. Are you single? I'd love to hook you up with my cousin who is currently "delusionally" going with a guy who told her to get married quick and reproduce so they can live off wellfare :scared:
 
Wow really?!?! Last time you checked this was a public forum? Is there a place on SDN where you can verify the public status of the forum? It must be a sub-forum in the I have nothing intelligent to post forum.
Oh my poor poor little Charlie... Charlie... Charlie...😳 Take a chill pill dude! Go work-out or something! I had bad days at retail too when I wanted to strangle people but after all "it's what you make out of it" (in the words of my former hospital director--believe it or not 😀)
 
What's a CVS?

It's where you have max 15mins to fill rx for waiters (the computer has the clock thing in it and would count the time remaining to fill for a waiter). But it's also where I first found out how to be a good community pharmacist from my very first and awesome preceptor. Also, it's the place where I first had my crush on a cute blond tech... too bad she is taken by a computer geek now already 🙁 Dang, what does he have that I don't ??😡
 
Good sir... I read some of your post earlier. Are you single? I'd love to hook you up with my cousin who is currently "delusionally" going with a guy who told her to get married quick and reproduce so they can live off wellfare :scared:

What does the name Old Timer mean to you??????
 
What does the name Old Timer mean to you??????
It means nothing. Remember "You're always young inside despite your outside" 😀 Anyhow, sorry man I forgot to look at your name. But woohoo to being that long in the profession (especially with retail) and still find it worth thriving for 👍
 
I know plenty of CVS pharmacists who absolutely love their jobs.

I love my job as an intern for CVS (although I know that doesn't count in your book).

Your job is what you make it; if you want to complain about it constantly, then it will suck. If you decide to actually try and enjoy yourself and help others, then maybe you won't hate your life quite so much.

Find me one...other than the delusional Old Timer.

When did I say I hated my life?
 
jerk. sorry just had to see if it was really censored.
you can continue to your regularly scheduled pissing match
 
Find me one...other than the delusional Old Timer.

When did I say I hated my life?

Would you like their store numbers, or just confirmation that they exist?

I wasn't referring to you specifically, I meant "you" in the group sense (English isn't the best language for conveying that). I've found that many of the pharmacists who hate their jobs and are constantly self-loathing don't take the time to actually try to enjoy themselves at work. If they didn't spend all their free time convincing themselves that their job is terrible, then it probably wouldn't be all that bad.
 
Back to original thread-That's awful. I hated it when my preceptor (Hospital DOP) was treated like that, and he was at times. After a few years I noticed he did lose his temper, but only when it counted-for him this was when a patient's well-being was jepoardized by idiots. He was secure enough to realize the other crap wasn't important. I learned a lot from him.
 
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