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I wish they would work on Barnes and Noble's Nook a little, clean up the UI and function of it. But I'm sort of an Android fanboy...so there's the bias.

Bias aside, I don't think Apple is going to be able to corner the market on this one. Kindle 2 and other eBook readers are just too well established. But as some one else previously posted, this will be interesting to see the competition come out. Hopefully we'll be seeing some exciting updates to devices coming out, Kindle 3 any one?
 
Multitasking is absolutely HUGE, at least for me personally. Right now I have 3 firefox windows open with ~10 tabs each, 4 excel documents, 2 powerpoint presentations, a word file, endnote, and coreldraw. If this thing is going to replace my laptop, it definitely needs multitasking. If it isn't, I already have a phone with pretty much identical bells and whistles.
Now that is multitasking FTW, lol
 
I wish they would work on Barnes and Noble's Nook a little, clean up the UI and function of it. But I'm sort of an Android fanboy...so there's the bias.

Bias aside, I don't think Apple is going to be able to corner the market on this one. Kindle 2 and other eBook readers are just too well established. But as some one else previously posted, this will be interesting to see the competition come out. Hopefully we'll be seeing some exciting updates to devices coming out, Kindle 3 any one?


Apple isnt trying to corner the EBook market with the IPad. Its putting a Jack-Of-All-Trades device on the market that people who dont have a Nook or Kindle, who dont want to justify spending 200-300 bucks + paying 10 bucks per book, for something that is limited to just books. Atleast with the IPad, they spend 500-700 dollars and get something that they can read on and do other crap.

I dont think it will catch on, atleast not with this crappy version they put out.
I also doubt, with later versions of the IPad, that multitasking will become a viable option. Mainly, from a software development POV -unless they upgrade their brand-new processor, which will likely kill battery time - using a single 1 GHZ processor with unknown Cache/FSB (i am assuming its pretty poor), running multiple programs simultaneously doesnt sound too appealing to me.
 
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I basically just never turn it off and leave everything I'm working on open. :laugh:

Luckily I've got a ton of RAM. 👍
You'd need to have that kind of RAM, lol That's a LOT of firefox tabs, hahaha Every try Chrome?
 
Multitasking is absolutely HUGE, at least for me personally. Right now I have 3 firefox windows open with ~10 tabs each, 4 excel documents, 2 powerpoint presentations, a word file, endnote, and coreldraw. If this thing is going to replace my laptop, it definitely needs multitasking. If it isn't, I already have a phone with pretty much identical bells and whistles.

The person you quoted was driving at that you can still "multitask". The state in which the application is left in is saved so it would be the equivalent to a really slow minimize and maximize of different apps. You wouldn't have all of these programs open at the same time all getting a portion of your screen, would you?

This thing is not meant to replace your computer, and if it is, it's an extremely poor attempt.
 
You'd need to have that kind of RAM, lol That's a LOT of firefox tabs, hahaha Every try Chrome?

Yeah, I've tried it but I don't like how there's no traditional menu bar across the top.

The person you quoted was driving at that you can still "multitask". The state in which the application is left in is saved so it would be the equivalent to a really slow minimize and maximize of different apps. You wouldn't have all of these programs open at the same time all getting a portion of your screen, would you?

This thing is not meant to replace your computer, and if it is, it's an extremely poor attempt.

No, but a lot of the time I'd need endnote, word, and corel, or endnote, word, excel, and FF, or some other combination.
 
Yes, CapnCrunch got my intention correct. Like I also stated, there are specific uses for the iPad that it would be good at, as opposed to a laptop or a smartphone. I've got a blackberry, it's a pain in the ass to read anything on, doesn't have wifi, so any internet access on it is super slow, and is limited in what applications are available.

I also have a laptop, in fact a very good laptop, it's great for a lot of things, reading textbooks, not so much, taking notes in a science class, not so much. I like the minimalist approach (as in I don't like to have to sort through the hundreds of pages of notes I take each semester if they're on paper). I can write equations and cell structures and what not on the iPad and I can save it and transfer it to my shiny laptop and organize it into my fully indexed file structure with the rest of my wonderfully typed class notes and what not.

I have an iPod, I can listen to music, I can watch movies, etc, but I can't get on the internet, I can't do much more than consume basic media, so sure the iPad is not the best media device out there, or the best computer out there. I don't intend to use it as such, and if you sat down and thought about this you might be able to see how this would help you instead of automatically turning to, "it's new, aaahhh change, I hate it, I hate it, it can't be good, (hands on ears) lalalalaI can't hear anythinglalalalala"

Some med schools already require an iPod Touch or an iPhone, and take note of this:http://www.advfn.com/news_One-in-Five-Physicians-Likely-To-Purchase-an-iPad-More-than-60-Percent-Intrigue_41405128.html

Can you honestly tell me that you see no benefit to hospitals in the iPad? Hospitals spend loads of time and money digitizing paper records, why not take paper out of the equation and just have digital records (which are far easier to enter on say a touchscreen device that even someone born before 1945 can use) then you reduce errors from misread prescriptions and badly written charts. And when recommending treatments, one can use programs that already exist from say, Epocrates, to look up a particular treatment, show the patient even, or just double check your decision.

If this device is sooo bad, then give me another device that is as cheap, easy to use, and comes from a company that is well known for long lasting products (unlike, say, HP) and can do the same things and has the same installed base of software developers and adoption rate?

Not saying you HAVE to use it or buy it, I'm saying, think of how, if you were in fantasy land, this could actually benefit you and others, especially since you're going to an industry where your entire purpose is to HELP people. Is your bad handwriting helping your patient, is having an intern waste their life trying to interpret charts and enter them into a computer helping anyone, is having such a negative attitude to change and new technologies going to help anyone? If we all had this kind of negative attitude for everything, we'd still be lobotomizing people with the thought that it actually helped behavioral problems.

Again just food for thought, I'm not saying you have to buy one or even consider buying one, just mull the information over, see if it changes anything.
 
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P.S. If it's meant to be a laptop/computer replacement, then why do you need a laptop or a computer to even have it work? You have to transfer media from a computer to this device, just like an iPod or an iPhone, or like an Android tablet, or an Android phone, you may not actually hook it up to a computer, but it's designed to do that, not to function completely solo.
 
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Yes, CapnCrunch got my intention correct. Like I also stated, there are specific uses for the iPad that it would be good at, as opposed to a laptop or a smartphone. I've got a blackberry, it's a pain in the ass to read anything on, doesn't have wifi, so any internet access on it is super slow, and is limited in what applications are available.

I also have a laptop, in fact a very good laptop, it's great for a lot of things, reading textbooks, not so much, taking notes in a science class, not so much. I like the minimalist approach (as in I don't like to have to sort through the hundreds of pages of notes I take each semester if they're on paper). I can write equations and cell structures and what not on the iPad and I can save it and transfer it to my shiny laptop and organize it into my fully indexed file structure with the rest of my wonderfully typed class notes and what not.

I have an iPod, I can listen to music, I can watch movies, etc, but I can't get on the internet, I can't do much more than consume basic media, so sure the iPad is not the best media device out there, or the best computer out there. I don't intend to use it as such, and if you sat down and thought about this you might be able to see how this would help you instead of automatically turning to, "it's new, aaahhh change, I hate it, I hate it, it can't be good, (hands on ears) lalalalaI can't hear anythinglalalalala"

Some med schools already require an iPod Touch or an iPhone, and take note of this:http://www.advfn.com/news_One-in-Fi...d-More-than-60-Percent-Intrigue_41405128.html

Can you honestly tell me that you see no benefit to hospitals in the iPad? Hospitals spend loads of time and money digitizing paper records, why not take paper out of the equation and just have digital records (which are far easier to enter on say a touchscreen device that even someone born before 1945 can use) then you reduce errors from misread prescriptions and badly written charts. And when recommending treatments, one can use programs that already exist from say, Epocrates, to look up a particular treatment, show the patient even, or just double check your decision.

If this device is sooo bad, then give me another device that is as cheap, easy to use, and comes from a company that is well known for long lasting products (unlike, say, HP) and can do the same things and has the same installed base of software developers and adoption rate?

Not saying you HAVE to use it or buy it, I'm saying, think of how, if you were in fantasy land, this could actually benefit you and others, especially since you're going to an industry where your entire purpose is to HELP people. Is your bad handwriting helping your patient, is having an intern waste their life trying to interpret charts and enter them into a computer helping anyone, is having such a negative attitude to change and new technologies going to help anyone? If we all had this kind of negative attitude for everything, we'd still be lobotomizing people with the thought that it actually helped behavioral problems.

Again just food for thought, I'm not saying you have to buy one or even consider buying one, just mull the information over, see if it changes anything.

Yeah, I agree that it's useful for some functions. The reason I would never buy one is that depending on the options you select, it's the same price as a low end to middle of the road laptop (or much more expensive than a netbook), but doesn't come close to matching the functionality of one of these devices.
P.S. If it's meant to be a laptop/computer replacement, then why do you need a laptop or a computer to even have it work? You have to transfer media from a computer to this device, just like an iPod or an iPhone, or like an Android tablet, or an Android phone, you may not actually hook it up to a computer, but it's designed to do that, not to function completely solo.

If it's designed to do that, it's designed very poorly. The ipad doesn't have built in USB or an SD slot.
 
If it's designed to do that, it's designed very poorly. The ipad doesn't have built in USB or an SD slot.

It's probably going to use a regular ipod cable (30 pin connector to usb) since it has a 30 pin connector which is present on all ipods.
 
Yeah, I agree that it's useful for some functions. The reason I would never buy one is that depending on the options you select, it's the same price as a low end to middle of the road laptop (or much more expensive than a netbook), but doesn't come close to matching the functionality of one of these devices.

You're entitled to your own opinion, but imo, it is way better than most netbooks for their similar uses, and it is meant to be a third device, not a replacement for another device, nothing more or less, and I think I see that and that's what Apple is marketing the device as.

Plus, the iPad has a different functionality set than laptops or netbooks or smartphones, as I've already tried to point out. But whatever, trying to convince people of this is like trying to convince the public at large that Pluto isn't a planet, theoretically possible, but it takes years and hundreds of repetitions, even though it's been proven.
 
Why wouldn't someone just use a convert/tablet? I've been abusing my Fujitsu lifebook for 4 years now and it's small enough to fit in my motorcycle tank bag. It's a little thicker but I'll live with the extra 1/4-1/2 inch to keep a full keyboard and all the tablet functions.

I suppose they were counting on the cult of Apple to make free money from a marginal product.
 
Has anyone seen this? What a joke. According to these estimates, Apple charges double the cost to make one of these things. It's supposedly meant to give room for marketing, promotions, and discounts...

http://www.macrumors.com/2010/02/10/ipad-component-costs-estimated-to-begin-at-219-35/

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Has anyone seen this? What a joke. According to these estimates, Apple charges double the cost to make one of these things. It's supposedly meant to give room for marketing, promotions, and discounts...

http://www.macrumors.com/2010/02/10/ipad-component-costs-estimated-to-begin-at-219-35/

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Have you ever heard of research and development? They did design their own processor specifically for this device. What about administrative costs? Cuts for the Apple stores? Customer service? They can charge what they want. If you can do it for cheaper I recommend you get crackin'.
 
SDSU, you gotta stop drinking the kool aid.

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No Flash, whine whine whine, last time I looked most websites use flash for advertising, honestly, I'd prefer to not have to look at the flashy "100,000th visitor" ad and if you're complaining about your lack of farmville or other flash game, get a life. If you're complaining about hulu, oh well, I'm sure there will be an app for it, youtube has an app. So honestly, I could care less about flash when it really gets down to it.

Problem is, hulu doesn't have a app. There are many sites that uses flash, Do you expect all those sites to make their own app for the iPad?

People complain there's no multitasking, what do you really care, apps save the data everytime you close them, so yeah, it's an extra touch instead of just sliding on over to another app, stop being lazy. Okay so you can't read your aim messages, check facebook, and look at porn all at the same time, honestly, it's not that big of a deal, take things one at a time. You can still listen to music and browse the web at the same time.

Being able to recieve IM while writing a doc, watching a video, playing a game, or just browsing is pretty damn useful. Not to metion if you want to listen to Pandora while doing something else.

Think about how this can be used, there are stylus based programs already available for this. Think about how you can use this in a hospital setting.
Think about the never-ending nightmare that is the paperwork that a doctor must complete, think of how many stories there are of lost paperwork, paperwork issues, digitization and what not. Every time a patient record is created on paper it now is entered into a computer system. Why not take the paper out of the equation, you can do that with an iPad, they already have applications for it.

They already have tablet PCs for that (which i've seen at some hospitals). Only weighing 1lb more, they are full blown computers that can run any x86 program. Not a oversized phone and not subject to the ridiculous restrictions of the App Store. These Tablet PCs actually have Pen input and handwriting recognition. You're not subject to typing 5 words per minute with an on screen keyboard, that takes up half the screen, like the iPad.

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With high definition video, okay, so it doesn't fit you're 16:9 aspect ratio, I'm sorry, unless a device is a tv, 16:9 aspect ratios look dumb and disproportionate. Most screens, even HDTV's are not 16:9 aspect ratios. A 4:3 aspect ratio is just fine and dandy. If you're all good students intent upon medical school, then you'll know that an excellent extracurricular is research, you happen to do a lot of presentations when conducting research, or at least presenting your findings, it's a fact. Now look at what you can do with the presentation programs on the iPad, it's aspect ratio is set up to be exactly compatible with 90% of the projectors you'll find, and you won't have to juggle laserpointers, whiteboards, and a projector, you can write notes with your iPad that appear on screen, or you can use a "laser pointer" that is really your finger.

Thsi device is being marketed as an entertainment device, so 16:9 is not an unreasonable expectation. And where are you getting the idea that "Most screens, even HDTV's are not 16:9 aspect ratios". This statement is just total BS when talking about HDTVs. There is barely any TV being sold these days that are not 16:9 widescreen.

Honestly, I see a lot of real use out of this, sure not a lot for media use, but I've got a laptop, an iPod, and a Blackberry for that. The iPad seems like an ideal product, at this point, considering price, battery, warranty, software options, and utility.

So food for thought

This is a pretty bad replacement for a laptop or a phone. It kinda combines the worst qualities of both; it's not a real computer since it can't run a real operating system, and it can't fit in your pocket.

P.S. - The price isn't that bad, the JooJoo, a competing tablet, has only a browser, it's 500, no 3G, and nothing close to the app store...

Compare apples to apples. For $500, the iPad will not come 3G. JooJoo has an atom processor, so it's actually a full blown computer. You can run Linux or Window 7 on it along with whatever apps that runs on those platforms. It can do way more than what the iPad and its apps store can do. And it doesn't run a locked down operating system with an apps store that rejects any program that Apple believes will impact its profits.

In response to your actual statement, the iPad does include standard ports, in fact it has a port that is a standard on nearly 300 million devices across the globe, which as specialty ports go, is pretty standard. So much so that everything from cars to stereos come equipped with docking equipment for that port. If you don't like the port included, you can even adapt it to fit your other needs.

Shows how useless "CompTIA A+ certified technician" is when you don't know what is a "standard port" and what is not. Standard ports are connectors on computers based on a publically available standard, written by a standard committee composed of members of various tech companies, not some proprietary port a single company designed for a specific product or a set of products. Also, the advantage of having a standard port is that you don't need to carry around 10 adapters just to connect the device to a sd card, projector, etc (not to mention the cost of buying/replacing those adaptors in order to do these basic tasks).
 
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It is stupid. I wouldn't be caught dead with one. It's huge, people want something inconspicuous. If I'm on the subway and pull that thing out everyone stares. If I have an iphone no one even notices. It is almost absurd to the point of being a joke. didn't they do focus groups on this or something?

Full of the sort of rich, urban douches who buy absolutely everything that Apple puts its silhouette on.

That looks so lame. iPad = Swollen iPhone. I'll keep my $499, thanks.

Yep... you could buy a reasonable netbook for 300-500, or a really nice touchpaddy sort of laptop for like 600-900. One undercuts the iPad with far more features and usefulness, the other is more expensive, with many, many times the performance and all the capabilities. Why would you need a half-laptop that's not a laptop that can't even do laptop stuff?
 
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SDSU, you gotta stop drinking the kool aid.

Lol, considering I'm one of very few who are actually not spending their time bashing this, I would think you'd be drinking the kool-aid...just saying 🙂



Problem is, hulu doesn't have a app. There are many sites that uses flash, Do you expect all those sites to make their own app for the iPad?

Many of the major websites that people frequent do have iPhone applications to target that audience specifically because they do not have flash available, what makes you sooo sure they won't do the same thing for the iPad? I like flash for certain uses, like doing my chem homework online, but for the things like advertising, I really don't care.

Being able to recieve IM while writing a doc, watching a video, playing a game, or just browsing is pretty damn useful. Not to metion if you want to listen to Pandora while doing something else.

Sorry, don't really use Pandora, at all, I'm picky about exactly what type of music I listen to, so the built in app is just fine for me, lol. Sure receiving IM's whilst doing other things on a computing device is pretty nice, but there are ways to get around the "no multitasking" feature, blackberries employ it, they cache instant messages from services like AIM, like they do sms messages, available for you to view later, it will appear as though you are online, even though the application is not running at the time.



They already have tablet PCs for that (which i've seen at some hospitals). Only weighing 1lb more, they are full blown computers that can run any x86 program. Not a oversized phone and not subject to the ridiculous restrictions of the App Store. These Tablet PCs actually have Pen input and handwriting recognition. You're not subject to typing 5 words per minute with an on screen keyboard, that takes up half the screen, like the iPad.

Most tablets I've seen way far more than 1 lb, especially fully powered ones. In case you have stumbled upon something I've missed (I'll admit entirely possible, even highly likely) Are they slate tablets? And if you see them around so often, why is it that the iPad is generating the amount of buzz (see article link posted in earlier comments) that it is? If such an excellent product already existed for hospitals to utilize, why are they not making use of it? Please enlighten me.

What particular "ridiculous restrictions" are you speaking of? It takes 2 weeks to make sure people aren't loading up porn and "shake the baby" applications, and even those get through occasionally. Sure free market and all that jazz, but if you haven't noticed, even in the relative free market heaven of the United States, there are restrictions. Minors aren't legally allowed to consume pornography, weaponry is restricted, there are illegal substances that one will be jailed for being in possession of, the list goes on and on. Why do you think the digital marketplace should be any different? Not saying it's good one way or the other, but considering my brother uses his iPhone as a pacification device for my nephew, I doubt my nephew's mother would be particularly pleased if he was browsing through applications that demonstrate ways to shake his baby sister to death (they have existed). It's not hard to program for the iPhone/iPad/iPod Touch, and there's a review process, boohoo Apple still has more applications than Android, and they all work on any device capable of running them, unlike Android where there are so many different hardware models that you end up with all sorts of odd bugs.



Thsi device is being marketed as an entertainment device, so 16:9 is not an unreasonable expectation. And where are you getting the idea that "Most screens, even HDTV's are not 16:9 aspect ratios". This statement is just total BS when talking about HDTVs. There is barely any TV being sold these days that are not 16:9 widescreen.

How often do you hear about people using their Zune's to drive an HDTV? Not very often, if at all. It's really not that big of a feature. If you're already that interested in HD content, likelihood is you own a blu-ray player and large number of blu-ray discs. However, most people don't particularly care about the difference between blu-ray and standard dvd quality (as evidenced by the speed of adoption of blu-ray). If you've already got an HD device hooked up to your TV, why would you use an iPad in the first place to play HD content on your tv. Again, if you're that into HD content, you probably have a computer hooked into your TV's HDMI ports so you can view all the HD content available for your consumption on the world wide web, why would you need the iPad to do that? Not a big deal. And sorry, I was thinking of a different aspect ratio than 16:9, my bad, lol.



This is a pretty bad replacement for a laptop or a phone. It kinda combines the worst qualities of both; it's not a real computer since it can't run a real operating system, and it can't fit in your pocket.
I never said it was a replacement, my intent was to point out it was an ideal third product category. And, "not a real OS" ummm, that depends on your definition of OS, because last time I checked, if it's a system and it operates computing hardware, it's an operating system, not a lot of gray area.


Compare apples to apples. For $500, the iPad will not come 3G. JooJoo has an atom processor, so it's actually a full blown computer. You can run Linux or Window 7 on it along with whatever apps that runs on those platforms. It can do way more than what the iPad and its apps store can do. And it doesn't run a locked down operating system with an apps store that rejects any program that Apple believes will impact its profits.

Apples to Apples, for 500 dollars, the JooJoo will not come with 3G, it's not a full blown computer, it's a closed OS, it does not run Windows or Linux, it runs a browser, and you can only run web applications, it right now is limited to about 15 applications that can do email, youtube, etc whereas the iPad has access to 140,000+ applications that can do everything from desktop class document production to more games than Nintendo's ever supported. And p.s. i'm sure rejections have something to do with profits, in an indirect sense, you know, I'm pretty sure housewives will kick up a storm as soon as they see their teens surfing porn applications on their iPhones/iPads, or what have you, but well, not that big of a deal, I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want to hold an iPad up for that type of consumption in the first place, and if the app don't work, why would I want Apple to endorse it so I can find out all on my own that it's a piece of crap that crashes whatever device it's running on?



Shows how useless "CompTIA A+ certified technician" is when you don't know what is a "standard port" and what is not. Standard ports are connectors on computers based on a publically available standard, written by a standard committee composed of members of various tech companies, not some proprietary port a single company designed for a specific product or a set of products. Also, the advantage of having a standard port is that you don't need to carry around 10 adapters just to connect the device to a sd card, projector, etc (not to mention the cost of buying/replacing those adaptors in order to do these basic tasks).
I'm fully aware of what standard ports are, my point is that the 30-pin connector is used by so many 3rd party manufacturers and USB cables for it can be found almost anywhere, that it may not be a "standard" but it certainly is ubiquitous enough to warrant it not being a fringe, niche connector that you can't find a cable or additional peripherals for. Read slightly more carefully, I guess it shows how useless college English is if one can't interpret the written word 🙂 With small devices you have to compromise to fit the form factor, it's a fact at this point in hardware manufacture. Sure adapters suck, but again, it's not a replacement for a fully fledged computer, it's a supplement. my laptop has loads of standard ports on it, that's fine, I use those, but on the iPad, I might occasionally have need of a standard port (as in the relatively rare presentation) in which case I have an adapter, look at use. Why would you want a dedicated monitor output for what is essentially, already a monitor? Sure I can see the use of USB, but even for things like camera downloads, unless you spastically download each photo immediately after you take one, your probably not going to hook up your camera that often, and when you do finally decide to offload your pictures, I'm pretty sure you can wait to load your SD card into the fully fledged computer you have at home, but say you're travelling, you've got an adapter just in case. Adapters are for rare, but sometimes needed usage, not everyday usage. You would have use of that 30-pin connector nearly everyday, why not just use that one port and give it the ability to run like almost any other standard port?
 
"iPad...the name that narrowly beat out TamPod."

Yeah, sorry...I'll wait for 2nd gen. Maybe by that time they'll have a reason for me to buy it. I'm just getting more and more disappointed by Apple, and I used to be a huge supporter. 🙁
 
Even though I am a mac fan (writing this post from a macbook), I think I'll skip the iPad and save my $500 for this:

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ereader/note taking/netbook in one...it really sounds too good to be true. I wonder if it will be as good and useful as it looks?
 
Lol, considering I'm one of very few who are actually not spending their time bashing this, I would think you'd be drinking the kool-aid...just saying 🙂





Many of the major websites that people frequent do have iPhone applications to target that audience specifically because they do not have flash available, what makes you sooo sure they won't do the same thing for the iPad? I like flash for certain uses, like doing my chem homework online, but for the things like advertising, I really don't care.



Sorry, don't really use Pandora, at all, I'm picky about exactly what type of music I listen to, so the built in app is just fine for me, lol. Sure receiving IM's whilst doing other things on a computing device is pretty nice, but there are ways to get around the "no multitasking" feature, blackberries employ it, they cache instant messages from services like AIM, like they do sms messages, available for you to view later, it will appear as though you are online, even though the application is not running at the time.





Most tablets I've seen way far more than 1 lb, especially fully powered ones. In case you have stumbled upon something I've missed (I'll admit entirely possible, even highly likely) Are they slate tablets? And if you see them around so often, why is it that the iPad is generating the amount of buzz (see article link posted in earlier comments) that it is? If such an excellent product already existed for hospitals to utilize, why are they not making use of it? Please enlighten me.

What particular "ridiculous restrictions" are you speaking of? It takes 2 weeks to make sure people aren't loading up porn and "shake the baby" applications, and even those get through occasionally. Sure free market and all that jazz, but if you haven't noticed, even in the relative free market heaven of the United States, there are restrictions. Minors aren't legally allowed to consume pornography, weaponry is restricted, there are illegal substances that one will be jailed for being in possession of, the list goes on and on. Why do you think the digital marketplace should be any different? Not saying it's good one way or the other, but considering my brother uses his iPhone as a pacification device for my nephew, I doubt my nephew's mother would be particularly pleased if he was browsing through applications that demonstrate ways to shake his baby sister to death (they have existed). It's not hard to program for the iPhone/iPad/iPod Touch, and there's a review process, boohoo Apple still has more applications than Android, and they all work on any device capable of running them, unlike Android where there are so many different hardware models that you end up with all sorts of odd bugs.





How often do you hear about people using their Zune's to drive an HDTV? Not very often, if at all. It's really not that big of a feature. If you're already that interested in HD content, likelihood is you own a blu-ray player and large number of blu-ray discs. However, most people don't particularly care about the difference between blu-ray and standard dvd quality (as evidenced by the speed of adoption of blu-ray). If you've already got an HD device hooked up to your TV, why would you use an iPad in the first place to play HD content on your tv. Again, if you're that into HD content, you probably have a computer hooked into your TV's HDMI ports so you can view all the HD content available for your consumption on the world wide web, why would you need the iPad to do that? Not a big deal. And sorry, I was thinking of a different aspect ratio than 16:9, my bad, lol.




I never said it was a replacement, my intent was to point out it was an ideal third product category. And, "not a real OS" ummm, that depends on your definition of OS, because last time I checked, if it's a system and it operates computing hardware, it's an operating system, not a lot of gray area.




Apples to Apples, for 500 dollars, the JooJoo will not come with 3G, it's not a full blown computer, it's a closed OS, it does not run Windows or Linux, it runs a browser, and you can only run web applications, it right now is limited to about 15 applications that can do email, youtube, etc whereas the iPad has access to 140,000+ applications that can do everything from desktop class document production to more games than Nintendo's ever supported. And p.s. i'm sure rejections have something to do with profits, in an indirect sense, you know, I'm pretty sure housewives will kick up a storm as soon as they see their teens surfing porn applications on their iPhones/iPads, or what have you, but well, not that big of a deal, I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want to hold an iPad up for that type of consumption in the first place, and if the app don't work, why would I want Apple to endorse it so I can find out all on my own that it's a piece of crap that crashes whatever device it's running on?




I'm fully aware of what standard ports are, my point is that the 30-pin connector is used by so many 3rd party manufacturers and USB cables for it can be found almost anywhere, that it may not be a "standard" but it certainly is ubiquitous enough to warrant it not being a fringe, niche connector that you can't find a cable or additional peripherals for. Read slightly more carefully, I guess it shows how useless college English is if one can't interpret the written word 🙂 With small devices you have to compromise to fit the form factor, it's a fact at this point in hardware manufacture. Sure adapters suck, but again, it's not a replacement for a fully fledged computer, it's a supplement. my laptop has loads of standard ports on it, that's fine, I use those, but on the iPad, I might occasionally have need of a standard port (as in the relatively rare presentation) in which case I have an adapter, look at use. Why would you want a dedicated monitor output for what is essentially, already a monitor? Sure I can see the use of USB, but even for things like camera downloads, unless you spastically download each photo immediately after you take one, your probably not going to hook up your camera that often, and when you do finally decide to offload your pictures, I'm pretty sure you can wait to load your SD card into the fully fledged computer you have at home, but say you're travelling, you've got an adapter just in case. Adapters are for rare, but sometimes needed usage, not everyday usage. You would have use of that 30-pin connector nearly everyday, why not just use that one port and give it the ability to run like almost any other standard port?

People like you are the reason Apple is in business despite the **** it pulls. Way to go 👍
 
People like you are the reason Apple is in business despite the **** it pulls. Way to go 👍

You mean the s*** every company pulls? Last time I checked, there are quite a few technology companies that are well known for their closed proprietary systems with arduous application acceptance procedures, with prices on their products that do not match up with tangible expenses paid. Give me an example of a perfect angel company that is a market leader and hasn't participated in strong-arming, or some reprehensible business practice, or something you (for your lack of economic training) think is a reprehensible business practice. Welcome to reality.

And you say it like it's a bad thing that I buy or contemplate buying certain products from a company. I'm also part of the reason Microsoft, Creative, IBM, Dell, Hewlett Packard, Sony, Samsung, Logitech, and many more are in business by that logic. I enjoy and laude many of their products as well. So I fail to see the particular evil in NOT getting my hopes up over the last six months for something unlikely to appear in the first place and then being content with the result, because I wasn't expecting a AMOLED capacitive touchscreen display 2 mm thick with a battery that lasted 6 months on a single charge, had every port from PS-2's to HDMI on it, was capable of hacking the Pentagon's servers in thirty seconds while checking AIM and fixing me a cup of coffee while it's at it, completely automated.

Just because all of you decided that every single rumor that surfaced over the iPad must be the god given truth as handed down by Apple and not some fat guy sitting at his computer at a tech magazine making s*** up to get attention, doesn't mean it's not a good product in the end. And doesn't mean I should join you in your collective disappointment that all of your hyped up expectations weren't met.

P.S. - However did Intel stay in business when it undersold competitors, got hit with the biggest anti-trust suits in the history of modern technology, and over-charged for every processor it built? Oh wait, because it made good products, and people liked them, and it had built itself into a large company, so by your logic, if you're using an Intel processor, you're the reason it's still in business today despite the s*** it pulls.
 
Anyone currently using an iPad in here? What is it useful for? My dad won one from his company and I am thinking about using it. Reviews/advice?
 
Anyone currently using an iPad in here? What is it useful for? My dad won one from his company and I am thinking about using it. Reviews/advice?


I use one, filled it with textbooks, use "takenotes" let's you highlight and all that stuff. Umm, also use it for making mind maps (lots of planning and stuff), "ithoughtsHD"

It's also really nice in the lab, you can stretch like parafilm, nitrile or latex over it and it still reads touches, so you can wikipedia it up if you're working on something, or you can save paper and use that to hold your procedures. The speaker's pretty loud so you can also play music for the lab which makes for some good times when everyone's kind of bored just pipetting stuff.

Also great for if you have to walk around and research stuff. Makes a great wikipedia clipboard.

Also great to take ochem notes on, you can scrawl the reactions down and file them away in your existing file system, which I do.

I also use it as a tech newspaper, "Pulse" is really great for feeds, if you have a few feeds that you're interested in, that keeps me occupied for hours.

And my friends love to use it at dinner. They ask me to bring it so they can pass it around and surf craigslist while we wait for food at Denny's every so often.

My nephew loves to play games on it.

And well, that about sums it up, there's other stuff, you can always find a use for it.

It is not a laptop/desktop replacement, in some ways it makes you want to use one of those more. Both in tandem are great. But for what it does, it's nice. Hope that helps.
 
Anyone currently using an iPad in here? What is it useful for? My dad won one from his company and I am thinking about using it. Reviews/advice?

Uber bump 🙂. My friend has one and I've used it. It's a nice toy and all and you can use it at a kindle/e-book reader, but beyond that I haven't found much use for it.
 
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eh I'm not a Steve Jobs fan. He seems pretty cocky. As far as the products go, I respect the neat ideas and the snazzy looks, but that's about it. I can usually always find another brand's product that has similar functionality. I like Apple for driving competition though!

The iPad just seems like a toy as others have said. I'm not spending that much just for a toy.
 
eh I'm not a Steve Jobs fan. He seems pretty cocky. As far as the products go, I respect the neat ideas and the snazzy looks, but that's about it. I can usually always find another brand's product that has similar functionality. I like Apple for driving competition though!

The iPad just seems like a toy as others have said. I'm not spending that much just for a toy.

Get what you like I guess 🙂

Just a note on cash, mine's paid for well over half of itself in savings on textbooks in one semester.

But this guy got a free one, so he's just seeing if he can use it for anything, I think.
 
I have one, love it.

Also I think UCF COM is issuing one to all incoming MS-1s. I know the school I'm going to this fall uses HP tablets right now, but I'm hoping for a switch in the future. 🙂

I know several hospitals in the SE have bought up a bunch of ipads also.
 
Get what you like I guess 🙂

Just a note on cash, mine's paid for well over half of itself in savings on textbooks in one semester.

But this guy got a free one, so he's just seeing if he can use it for anything, I think.

ohh gotcha 👍 If I got a free one, I'd definitely play around with it
 
My father got one for free and doesn't use it at all lol. i've been playing around with it, but it's not something i would pay $500 for. Although it is useful for several things, getting a macbook would simply be more practical. I have heard however that the Ipad 2 will have better features, including usb ports and an actual webcam? Don't know if these are just rumors; either way I personally don't think it's worth the price.
 
I have one, love it.

Also I think UCF COM is issuing one to all incoming MS-1s. I know the school I'm going to this fall uses HP tablets right now, but I'm hoping for a switch in the future. 🙂

I know several hospitals in the SE have bought up a bunch of ipads also.
Stanford did this too this year!
 
My father got one for free and doesn't use it at all lol. i've been playing around with it, but it's not something i would pay $500 for. Although it is useful for several things, getting a macbook would simply be more practical. I have heard however that the Ipad 2 will have better features, including usb ports and an actual webcam? Don't know if these are just rumors; either way I personally don't think it's worth the price.

All in all of these things and lower the price down to 199-299 and I think it'll be a best seller.
 
All in all of these things and lower the price down to 199-299 and I think it'll be a best seller.

It would be. But too bad no one's selling anything worth while for that price with these components. Samsung is selling right around the same price as the iPad for similar components, and HP is selling way above the iPad on the slate.

Though if it was around the 200 mark, damn these would be selling like hotcakes. But then again, they'd devalue their iPod touches and iPhones if they did that...

Oh well, still sells pretty well for being otherwise pricey (at least not a random impulse buy).
 
It would be. But too bad no one's selling anything worth while for that price with these components. Samsung is selling right around the same price as the iPad for similar components, and HP is selling way above the iPad on the slate.

Though if it was around the 200 mark, damn these would be selling like hotcakes. But then again, they'd devalue their iPod touches and iPhones if they did that...

Oh well, still sells pretty well for being otherwise pricey (at least not a random impulse buy).

The iPad is selling like hotcakes. I have one, was grandfathered into the unlimited data plan, and love it. I use it all the time on campus. The 3G is fast; it lets me get on the internet wherever I go, listen to Pandora, watch Neflix instant play, (get on SDN 😉) etc. It was well worth the (I think) $700 I paid for it. However, now that the unlimited data plan is discontinued for people who are just now buying it, I can certainly understand why people wouldn't be interested in it at all.
 
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The iPad is selling like hotcakes. I have one, was grandfathered into the unlimited data plan, and love it. I use it all the time on campus. The 3G is fast; it lets me get on the internet wherever I go, listen to Pandora, watch Neflix instant play, (get on SDN 😉) etc. It was well worth the (I think) $700 I paid for it. However, now that the unlimited data plan is discontinued for people who are just now buying it, I can certainly understand why people wouldn't be interested in it at all.

True enough, I love mine. But I rarely ever need 3G since my campus is covered in wifi. Still pay for unlimited data though 🙂 And I meant, they'd sell even faster than they are right now at that price.
 
My Dad just got one as a gift from a client and he told me straight up he's not going to use it so if I want I can have it. Now, at first I thought that was way cool cuz i've always wanted an e-book reader sort of thing but don't really care to spend the money on it atm and the iPad can do other nifty things e-readers can't...

However i'm really wondering if there's a point to keeping it? I haven't opened it yet. It's pretty much a giant iPod touch right?

I know the iPod touch can come in handy for med school and I have one, but it's first gen and according to my techie brother, can't run alot of the new stuff and the iPad just isn't very portable in that respect. So I kind of want to sell it and buy myself a new touch (if i don't end up going to the school that'll give me one) and a DSLR b/c i've been seriously wanting one of those too for a while.

Thoughts?
 
My Dad just got one as a gift from a client and he told me straight up he's not going to use it so if I want I can have it. Now, at first I thought that was way cool cuz i've always wanted an e-book reader sort of thing but don't really care to spend the money on it atm and the iPad can do other nifty things e-readers can't...

However i'm really wondering if there's a point to keeping it? I haven't opened it yet. It's pretty much a giant iPod touch right?

I know the iPod touch can come in handy for med school and I have one, but it's first gen and according to my techie brother, can't run alot of the new stuff and the iPad just isn't very portable in that respect. So I kind of want to sell it and buy myself a new touch (if i don't end up going to the school that'll give me one) and a DSLR b/c i've been seriously wanting one of those too for a while.

Thoughts?

Go for what you want, if you want the new touch and a DSLR, sell and buy those. It is a giant iPod touch, and at this point it doesn't have a camera and is limited on RAM. In some cases, a bigger screen is really what you want (does make a difference in a lot of the things you can do). But it is 5-800 dollars you can spend on other goodies. If you're not really that into it, no point.

On the other hand, I absolutely love my iPad, it is excellent. My point and shoot rocking 10 MP helps. And well, I have a droid incredible that functions as the uber portable and the iPad is pretty mobile (awesome in movie lines).

If you've got a reason to keep it, then go for it. I've used mine in the lab, I use it for textbooks, I use it as a communal argument settler, I've used it to impress bosses with a super cool presentation and intricate mindmaps, it's nice because it's a full size reference tool pretty much anywhere I need it (I have a backpack if I'm at work, in the lab, or at school, so it's not a big deal, no less portable than a DSLR). Which means I can access a backlog of textbooks and saved pdfs (research papers, essays, you name it), good boredom curing tool with full size rss readers (you can view the full html page and bigger videos, which is nice to share), there are of course games (3d sudoku is addicting), and just all sorts of other things that you can do on a touch, but where the screen really does make a difference.

But yeah, get what you really want, and if selling an iPad gives you the opportunity to do that, take it, imo.
 
i am going to buy a new laptop before med school starts. am i correct in assuming i cant buy an ipad instead? i'm talking about the next version, which i've heard will have usb ports. also, i will have a monitor, which i can use for extra screen space
 
im really happy this thread is back up and running. its funny to see the 180 turn around from people who posted in jan/feb to now. i thought i was going to get one for xmas and got an ereader instead... but im glad i didnt because id much rather wait for a price drop or a new generation ipad to come out. yeah, multitasking is huge... lets hope apple (at the very least) took care of that first. :xf:
 
im really happy this thread is back up and running. its funny to see the 180 turn around from people who posted in jan/feb to now. i thought i was going to get one for xmas and got an ereader instead... but im glad i didnt because id much rather wait for a price drop or a new generation ipad to come out. yeah, multitasking is huge... lets hope apple (at the very least) took care of that first. :xf:

The iOS 4.2 update that came out a month ago gave us multitasking.
 
i am going to buy a new laptop before med school starts. am i correct in assuming i cant buy an ipad instead? i'm talking about the next version, which i've heard will have usb ports. also, i will have a monitor, which i can use for extra screen space

An iPad won't replace a laptop, if you need a laptop, get that! An iPad is nothing but a supplement. You can do a lot of things with it, but you'll be better off spending your money on more important things.

If you already have a working computer though, the iPad is definitely worth it 🙂
 
An iPad won't replace a laptop, if you need a laptop, get that! An iPad is nothing but a supplement. You can do a lot of things with it, but you'll be better off spending your money on more important things.

If you already have a working computer though, the iPad is definitely worth it 🙂

Agreed. Get a Mac Book Pro 😉
Just got mine. It beats the pants off any PC I've ever had.
 
Even though I am a mac fan (writing this post from a macbook), I think I'll skip the iPad and save my $500 for this:

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ereader/note taking/netbook in one...it really sounds too good to be true. I wonder if it will be as good and useful as it looks?

That looks like something out of the 80's.
 
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