is it just me or are there too many pre-meds?

[21JumpStreet]

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People seem to contradict themselves: posters ask about whether or not they will get in if they didn't do well in organic chem and everyone chimes in by saying that they got in to med school with just a "C." Now in this thread, it is suddenly a weed out course.

 

[jbone]

People seem to contradict themselves: posters ask about whether or not they will get in if they didn't do well in organic chem and everyone chimes in by saying that they got in to med school with just a "C." Now in this thread, it is suddenly a weed out course.

If you think organic is difficult at this level, wait till you see what it is like at the grad level. Organic at the pre-med level is just the alphabets. 🙄

True, but the majority of us will never take graduate level chemistry courses other than the Biochem etc. taught in medical school.

 

[21JumpStreet]

Another thing that I have noticed too: people here are assuming that science is harder than non-science fields. To some science is easy and non-science is hard. I've met people who have found physics to be easy and statistics in a non-scientific discipline to be very difficult. One woman actually had the most difficult time with her history courses and thought O-chem was easy. No matter how much time she studied for her history exams, she always came close to failing them. This really showed me that science is not always the hardest for everyone.

 

[Law2Doc]

People seem to contradict themselves: posters ask about whether or not they will get in if they didn't do well in organic chem and everyone chimes in by saying that they got in to med school with just a "C." Now in this thread, it is suddenly a weed out course.

Not inconsistent, just different people. It is a weed out course. Most people who start out premed don't do all that well, but at least pull B's and continue to be optimistic that they can salvage the GPA later in the process. Then they tank orgo and suddenly their BCPM is close to or lower than 3.0. It is at that point that they realize things went from bad to worse and they won't be going straight from college to med school. However there are some premeds who get mostly A's in the science courses, and in such case, a C in orgo won't pull the BCPM down below competitive. So a C or two is not fatal for most premeds. But if you had to point to a single course that makes the most premeds see reality that they won't graduate with stats competitive for med school, it would be orgo. Hope that helps.

 

[Law2Doc]

Another thing that I have noticed too: people here are assuming that science is harder than non-science fields. To some science is easy and non-science is hard. I've met people who have found physics to be easy and statistics in a non-scientific discipline to be very difficult. One woman actually had the most difficult time with her history courses and thought O-chem was easy. No matter how much time she studied for her history exams, she always came close to failing them. This really showed me that science is not always the hardest for everyone.

Having done both tracks, I can tell you this - it is a totally different skillset to do well in hard versus social sciences. But once you master that skillset, you spend a heck of a lot less time studying for the social science courses than the science ones. The way you do well in a social science class is to read a lot, and write well. The way to do well in a science course is to do problems and understanding things. For many, reading and writing is less painful than understanding. And gets you out of the library much earlier.

 

[online_support]

i was pre-med like 8 yrs ago and most the pre-meds then knew what they were getting themelves into. But now my cuz is a pre-med and he tells me how some of them dont even know what a residency is. its really sad

 

[anon-y-mouse]

People seem to contradict themselves: posters ask about whether or not they will get in if they didn't do well in organic chem and everyone chimes in by saying that they got in to med school with just a "C." Now in this thread, it is suddenly a weed out course.

I think that's a good point. For me, it was kind of the opposite - I got A's in orgo and orgo lab, and there were literally hundreds of people in my class. For me, that was the acid test that showed I was able to prove myself and think critically. Orgo is new to everyone in undergrad; a lot of med school curriculum (in the way they teach it) is new to incoming med students... I think the point is that orgo is something tough to master at first, and if you have that skill, you can master, say, learning anat & phys.

 

[Law2Doc]

I think that's a good point. For me, it was kind of the opposite - I got A's in orgo and orgo lab, and there were literally hundreds of people in my class. For me, that was the acid test that showed I was able to prove myself and think critically. Orgo is new to everyone in undergrad; a lot of med school curriculum (in the way they teach it) is new to incoming med students... I think the point is that orgo is something tough to master at first, and if you have that skill, you can master, say, learning anat & phys.

There is no correlation between mastering orgo and mastering A&P. Don't expect to do well on one having done well on the other or vice versa.

 

[Mr. Tee]

I don't say I'm premed because I don't want to be stereotyped. When teachers ask the students in the science class who's premed, everyone but me raises his/her hand. Also I want to go into academic medicine so when I tell people that I wanna do research, they give me blank stares

 

[online_support]

I don't say I'm premed because I don't want to be stereotyped. When teachers ask the students in the science class who's premed, everyone but me raises his/her hand. Also I want to go into academic medicine so when I tell people that I wanna do research, they give me blank stares

i always got the stares like i was a some freak for wanting to do research 😱

 

[anon-y-mouse]

There is no correlation between mastering orgo and mastering A&P. Don't expect to do well on one having done well on the other or vice versa.

Wow, by the authority vested in you by whom? Anyway. I have no such expectation. Quite simply, I'm saying that I was able to learn something completely new, that required me to adopt/learn/apply a new learning style.

It's not about the content, I feel, so obviously there is no direct correlation; for me, the theme of applying one's learning techniques and skills is the connecting thread. Those who learn new material well should obviously succeed at ... learning new material well, if there are no other confounding factors. With that said, there is a huge amount of room to eventually "learn how to learn". I've personally seen a lot of people who made C's first semester and turned around to get A's, and they tell me it's because they've finally figured out what was deficient in their personal learning style.

 

[Law2Doc]

Quite simply, I'm saying that I was able to learn something completely new, that required me to adopt/learn/apply a new learning style.

It's not about the content, I feel, so obviously there is no direct correlation; for me, the theme of applying one's learning techniques and skills is the connecting thread. Those who learn new material well should obviously succeed at ... learning new material well, if there are no other confounding factors. With that said, there is a huge amount of room to eventually "learn how to learn". I've personally seen a lot of people who made C's first semester and turned around to get A's, and they tell me it's because they've finally figured out what was deficient in their personal learning style.

I agree with your statements here. However I would suggest (from personal experience and observation of many others) that there are courses other than Orgo that would be far better indicators of success, and far more analagous to A&P or a lot of other future science courses.

 

[gujuDoc]

not to get back on the engineering kick...but something i've noticed personally. i'm a chemical engineering major and i got into med school (yay!) recently. whenever people asked me what my major was, etc., if i said "chemical engineering" the person would be like "WOW. you must be really smart! that's so hard! (insert other grovel-y type phrases)". if i said "pre-med chemical engineering" i would get really strange looks and people would be like "why are you wasting your time, etc". i would say that i was taking the scenic route or something. and if i just said "pre-med" people would be "oh". that's it.

i guess my point is that while you're in undergrad, there's no respect for straight pre-med people, but if you're engineering people bow down at your feet. just food for thought.

Its because engineering is a tough major. Don't worry, when the premeds who make it into med school get there, then they get the same bow down to your feet butt kissing from others on occasion. I always found those butt kissing kinda people to be annoying and irritating. A lot of desi parents are like that. When they hear someone got into med school or what not, they start acting all obnoxious with you. Very irritating because at the end of the day you are still the same person you were yesterday.

 

[JimmyG]

I, personally, think that there needs to be an internship year before people even apply to medical school to show those pompous premeds what our disorganized, bureaucratic health care system is really like. That would wean out many, many, many premeds.

 

[anon-y-mouse]

A lot of desi parents are like that. When they hear someone got into med school or what not, they start acting all obnoxious with you. Very irritating because at the end of the day you are still the same person you were yesterday.

parents treat you obnoxiously because you got into med school? I'd think they'd be thrilled!!

 

[gujuDoc]

There is no correlation between mastering orgo and mastering A&P. Don't expect to do well on one having done well on the other or vice versa.

Agreed. A&P is pure blunt memorization where as ochem like physics, is doing problems and mastering problems.

Namaste,

Please read Law2doc's posts, because what he/she said about when and when its not a weed out case, is what most of us were trying to get at.

 

[anon-y-mouse]

A&P is pure blunt memorization

I really don't think so... at least to do well. The impression I got was that to do well, one has to know (for example) which way muscles interact with others, and the bigger picture of what's going on. Save for the practical, I don't think memorizing Netter's would take you very far - especially since a lot of med school (and board) exams are clinical vignettes that require you to think and apply the knowledge you've learned. I would think this is much more true for physiology, where "Why is this person's BP high?" is more like "How can you synthesize aspirin from benzene?" where the answer requires one to actively think, apply, and logically go through a cascade to solve the problem.

(Not to disagree with you about the correlation in content though)

 

[TerdFerguson]

Not to steer the conversation away from current posts, but it seems to me that the "pre-med" designation per se is really fading out. Seems like you simply have your science and non-science majors who are taking the required pre-reqs to apply. I never really ran across anyone who labeled themself a pre-med. Of course I graduated from a small, liberal-arts school so I may be ignorant to the reality of it all at larger universities.

 

[Law2Doc]

Not to steer the conversation away from current posts, but it seems to me that the "pre-med" designation per se is really fading out. Seems like you simply have your science and non-science majors who are taking the required pre-reqs to apply. I never really ran across anyone who labeled themself a pre-med. Of course I graduated from a small, liberal-arts school so I may be ignorant to the reality of it all at larger universities.

A few schools actually have that as a major. Far more require you to declare it in some way at some point notwithstanding your major so that the premed advisors and committee can open up a file for LORs and know how many composite letters they are going to need to write. As for folks calling themselves "premed", I'd say that a ton of people would say they are in freshman year, and the number drops off exponentially each semester.

 

[gujuDoc]

parents treat you obnoxiously because you got into med school? I'd think they'd be thrilled!!

What I meant was related to other people's parents who know you, who act pretty weird around you, and then when they find out you've gotten in they start acting very phony with you. Its hard to explain.

 

[gujuDoc]

I really don't think so... at least to do well. The impression I got was that to do well, one has to know (for example) which way muscles interact with others, and the bigger picture of what's going on. Save for the practical, I don't think memorizing Netter's would take you very far - especially since a lot of med school (and board) exams are clinical vignettes that require you to think and apply the knowledge you've learned. I would think this is much more true for physiology, where "Why is this person's BP high?" is more like "How can you synthesize aspirin from benzene?" where the answer requires one to actively think, apply, and logically go through a cascade to solve the problem.

(Not to disagree with you about the correlation in content though)

I thought we were talking about the Anatomy and Physiology at undegrad level, NOT MEDICAL SCHOOL LEVEL.

Talking about medical school courses is a different ball game, cuz there's more critical thinking in relation to the clinical cases etc in medical school courses. However, undergrad A&P classes are not as in depth and require much of that kinda correlations depending on where you take it. For instance, comp anat was all pure memorization. however, I will agree on a gross anatomny and medical physiology course, with what you have said.

Its just two different ball games when talking about undergrad vs. med school courses.

 

[Gatewayhoward]

I think those who are meant to progress to medicine make it, while those naieve dreamers just fail.

 

[Law2Doc]

I think those who are meant to progress to medicine make it, while those naieve dreamers just fail.

You make your own fate.

 

[deuist]

Having done both tracks, I can tell you this - it is a totally different skillset to do well in hard versus social sciences. But once you master that skillset, you spend a heck of a lot less time studying for the social science courses than the science ones. The way you do well in a social science class is to read a lot, and write well. The way to do well in a science course is to do problems and understanding things. For many, reading and writing is less painful than understanding. And gets you out of the library much earlier.

So true! I easily scored A's in all of my religion courses just by writing. The upper level physics courses were much more difficult and required a whole lot more work to understand.

To the OP: yes, there are lots of pre-meds. However, most of them will switch to business or law by the time they graduate. Some will even end up with a bio degree and then become high school teachers. Also, about your acceptance rate question (I didn't read all of the thread): about half of each year's applicants are accepted, meaning that getting into med school puts you at the top of the academic pile.

As an aside, given that law school is also a lot of reading and writing, is there any wonder why so many liberal arts majors are pre-law?

 

[DoctorFunk]

Talking about medical school courses is a different ball game, cuz there's more critical thinking in relation to the clinical cases etc in medical school courses.

Not really. Your basic science years are likely to be taught predominantly by PhDs who test on minutia in order to obtain some sort of class distribution. The majority of your learning (in my experience in M1 year) will be memorization, with a smattering of critical thinking in courses like physiology and some of the metabolic topics in biochemistry.

Gross Anatomy lab is certainly all about memorization, and there is only a limited number of clinical conditions testable on written exams that pertain only to anatomy, most of which you will end up memorizing rather than reasoning out.

 

[MEG@COOL]

I dont know any engineering premeds, but most of the premeds I know are considerably less intelligent than most of the engineers I have known. I havent really ever met a premed whos intelligence has impressed me. I have however known some engineers that are pretty freaking smart.

 

[duckhunter25]

so many good stories, oh they're great

 

[21JumpStreet]

Having done both tracks, I can tell you this - it is a totally different skillset to do well in hard versus social sciences. But once you master that skillset, you spend a heck of a lot less time studying for the social science courses than the science ones. The way you do well in a social science class is to read a lot, and write well. The way to do well in a science course is to do problems and understanding things. For many, reading and writing is less painful than understanding. And gets you out of the library much earlier.

I came from both tracks too. I did my ugrad in criminal justice, my grad in geophysics and now a med student. This may have been the case for you. But, i know individuals that have done well in orgo and spent all their time studying and still haven't mastered the social sciences. Some people are just better at different things. For those that still don't get courses like statistics don't leave the library any sooner. Some are just better at science than writing. We can't make generalizations about individuals.

Also, there have been many people that have picked up on organic chem and have done really well the first time around. Like others I have really enjoyed the course and did not find it difficult. If you think orgo is hard, you should see what it is like at the graduate level. At the pre-med level, it is just like learning the alphabets so one can eventually learn grammar and composition.

 

[benelswick]

I dont know any engineering premeds, but most of the premeds I know are considerably less intelligent than most of the engineers I have known. I havent really ever met a premed whos intelligence has impressed me. I have however known some engineers that are pretty freaking smart.

Big News. If you want to work on novel, previously unsolved problems go into science or physics or research. If you want to put every ounce of your soul into words on the page become a poet. If you can't live without turning the perfect phrase on your saxophone be a jazz musician.

If you want to work your ass off to become and be a physician within the elaborate beaurocratic medical system then discipline, work ethic, and working well with others will be prized.

The most motivated students are well suited for the pre-med game. The most intelligent and creative are drawn other things instinctively because they can't express themselves within the context of pre-med culture.

 

[Law2Doc]

If you think orgo is hard, you should see what it is like at the graduate level. At the pre-med level, it is just like learning the alphabets so one can eventually learn grammar and composition.

I thankfully will stop at the ABCs. 🙂

 

[gujuDoc]

I think those who are meant to progress to medicine make it, while those naieve dreamers just fail.

The better way of putting this is that if you want it bad enough you don't just dream about it but you do what you need to get there, and work to get there against the odds. if you are dreaming about it but don't have the drive to make the dream come true then you won't make it. That is true with anything in life.

 

[werd]

each year there are 16000 spots in medical schools and a variable number of applicants... recently it's been about 35000 applicants so about half get in on any given year. i once saw that the two majors with the highest acceptance rates are biochem and engineering (by a couple percents)... not sure if med schools actually prefer those majors or if people in them are just generally brighter than your average joe's.

 

[DrBowtie]

each year there are 16000 spots in medical schools and a variable number of applicants... recently it's been about 35000 applicants so about half get in on any given year. i once saw that the two majors with the highest acceptance rates are biochem and engineering (by a couple percents)... not sure if med schools actually prefer those majors or if people in them are just generally brighter than your average joe's.

Not sure where AAMC puts engineering and biochem but here is the official AAMC data on majors.

http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/2005/mcatgpabymaj1.htm

 

[Gatewayhoward]

Most of these dreamers are only excited by the idea of the end result and not the process. How many people can say that just knowing that they're ON THE WAY towards a goal like that, that they feel more alive than ever and overcome all neuroses they may of had cause they're too focused on this thing?
I know people that have bio/chem degrees that have that "When I get around to it" toward medical school and know less about the process than me and I'm two years away from a BS.

 

[gujuDoc]

each year there are 16000 spots in medical schools and a variable number of applicants... recently it's been about 35000 applicants so about half get in on any given year. i once saw that the two majors with the highest acceptance rates are biochem and engineering (by a couple percents)... not sure if med schools actually prefer those majors or if people in them are just generally brighter than your average joe's.

I think those kids who are engineering do better on things like the MCAT because of either better standardized testing skills or more used to thinking out of the box or a combo thereof. Most every engineering major I've met got 30-40 range on MCAT without even having to do much studying or anything.

 

[isobel]

I think those kids who are engineering do better on things like the MCAT because of either better standardized testing skills or more used to thinking out of the box or a combo thereof. Most every engineering major I've met got 30-40 range on MCAT without even having to do much studying or anything.

yeah, i did biomed engin undergrad. i had a lowish GPA, about 3.3, but a really good MCAT score with little studying. the two premed advisors i talked to said that it was actually pretty common for engineers to have lower GPAs but practically ace the MCAT. i feel like the difference between me and other premeds i know is that i can cut through all the crap in the questions quickly and know what is really being asked. i know a lot of people who get hung up on small details that i know don't matter in the least.

i wasn't premed in college because i couldn't stand the whole "Pre-Med" culture where it was widely believed that a C would doom you forever and people would ask annoying questions in class just to hear themselves talk.

 

[gujuDoc]

yeah, i did biomed engin undergrad. i had a lowish GPA, about 3.3, but a really good MCAT score with little studying. the two premed advisors i talked to said that it was actually pretty common for engineers to have lower GPAs but practically ace the MCAT. i feel like the difference between me and other premeds i know is that i can cut through all the crap in the questions quickly and know what is really being asked. i know a lot of people who get hung up on small details that i know don't matter in the least.

i wasn't premed in college because i couldn't stand the whole "Pre-Med" culture where it was widely believed that a C would doom you forever and people would ask annoying questions in class just to hear themselves talk.

at the last sentence of your post. That is sooooooooo true of some of the premeds I knew.

 

[kimmcauliffe]

The worst ones are the people who sit in lecture and ask the most ******ed questions because they have no clue and yet they think they're going to be a doctor .

Please read my post online re: these pre-meds. We're all guilty of it to some extent.
http://kimberlymcauliffe.blogspot.com/2005/12/pre-med-dissected.html
#5, in particular

 

[eddie13231]

Pratically everyone I meet in my pre-req classes are pre-med and they annoy the **** outta me. All of them talk about being a doctor and bla, bla, bla. I do think many of them are ignorant of the facts and realities of medicine and what it takes to get in. One girl I spoke with during finals week has like 62 credit hours but can't declare her major because her GPA is too low, she was complaining about something. I said "That sucks, so what do you wana do when you get done?". She was like, "I'm gona be a doctor, and my patients won't care I got a D- in physics and orgo", She needed a reality check, I kept my mouth shut. But there are a few cool pre-med people i've met too but far too many annoying types.

 

[Will Ferrell]

I dont know any engineering premeds, but most of the premeds I know are considerably less intelligent than most of the engineers I have known. I havent really ever met a premed whos intelligence has impressed me. I have however known some engineers that are pretty freaking smart.

Very true, MEG@COOL... the enginerds earn much more respect in my opinion. Some of the brightest minds i know don't want to bother with medical school. The whole process has too many hoops to jump through and it's not an intellectual accomplishment.

As for the question, the MCATs downsizes the pool.

 

[GoodEats]

Just something I heard somewhere: as a generalization, engineers are taught how to think and problem solve, whereas bio-type majors learn to memorize and regurgitate information.

 

[gujuDoc]

Very true, MEG@COOL... the enginerds earn much more respect in my opinion. Some of the brightest minds i know don't want to bother with medical school. The whole process has too many hoops to jump through and it's not an intellectual accomplishment.

As for the question, the MCATs downsizes the pool.

That is very true. I had many friends who had great GPAs and Great MCAT scores but who copped out at the end cuz they didn't want to spend 4 years of schooling and several years of residency because they got bored with the idea of medicine and found other things more interesting like research, journalism, and engineering.

So they went on to those other things instead.

 

[BooMed]

Pratically everyone I meet in my pre-req classes are pre-med and they annoy the **** outta me. All of them talk about being a doctor and bla, bla, bla. I do think many of them are ignorant of the facts and realities of medicine and what it takes to get in. One girl I spoke with during finals week has like 62 credit hours but can't declare her major because her GPA is too low, she was complaining about something. I said "That sucks, so what do you wana do when you get done?". She was like, "I'm gona be a doctor, and my patients won't care I got a D- in physics and orgo", She needed a reality check, I kept my mouth shut. But there are a few cool pre-med people i've met too but far too many annoying types.

Wow, that is really kind of sad. 🙁 The truth is, you don't need to give her a reality check because the whole MCAT/application process will (if she even gets that far).

 

[clc8503]

At your school does it seem like everyone you meet is pre-med? I can't figure out how and why there are so many people who think they want to go to med school. The worst ones are the people who sit in lecture and ask the most ******ed questions because they have no clue and yet they think they're going to be a doctor . I don't know whats worst that or the cheaters who always do their work and online tests in groups to pad their grade. I really hate it when you know some of them and you know they'd be an awful doctor but you can't help but think what if they get into med school and I don't.

The point of this whole thing is what percent of people who apply to med school actually get in? not to a specific school but just in general? And when do people realize they either won't get in or are not fit for the job?

Sorry for the rant

I hate posts like this! Yet, for some reason I feel compelled to respond. You're an idiot! There's nothing wrong with asking a stupid question in class. I find that the students who ask questions are generally the students who understand the material the best. It takes a certain amount of understanding to actually know what questions to ask. If you ask me, (which you didn't but I'm going to say what I think anyway) the students like you are the worst. It's like you think you're superior to everyone else just becasue you're pre-med and you're so sure you'll make and they won't. The other students seem undeserving to you. You need to lose to god-complex that you got going. When I took my first general biology, my freshman year, I did not even know what ATP was (I know that's sad but biology at my high school was a joke). As a result of this, I asked tons of "stupid" questions in class. I still managed to do well thoughout college and I am applying this summer for 07" with above average stats. All I'm saying is that you can't judge a students success by how he or she acts in the lower levels. As many have already posted, they will be weeded out in organics. The fact that you do not know this tells me that you are either a freshman or at best a sophmore. As far as you know, you could become weeded out yourself. Besides, since when does being stealer in Organic Chemistry and Physics determine how well you will perform as a physician? True, if you can't cut it in these classes you won't get into medical school in the first place. Biology, a little chemistry (rarely), a good clinical program/residency, and having a good bed side manner are what makes a physician excellent all around. To answer your question, a little more than 50% of students that apply actually gain acceptance to medical school. If you average in the amount that apply to Osteopathic Medical schools as well, the numbers will increase a little bit more. Then there's the Carribeans (not a path I would recommend but it can get you there if you have a strong will to become a physician). Get back with us in a year or two when you are no longer one of the many pre-meds and rather one of the few that have not been weeded out or one of the students that have been. I hate to be an ***hole but your whining is annoying. I'm sure I'm going to be flamed for this and I really don't care. Like I said, lose the god-complex and hit the books so you become just another (has been) pre-med. ~Good day

 

[anon-y-mouse]

There's nothing wrong with asking a stupid question in class.

There's a time and place. I hate people who don't bother to do pre-reading if they have doubts. I think the only questions that should be asked in class are the truly insightful, perspicacious ones. If you asked "What is ATP?" in a freshman biology lecture, I'd have been really pissed off by people like you. Also, if the lecturer has been noticeably vague or unclear about something that's relevant, then sure, ask for the benefit of the whole class. If you have such a basic question as about ATP, I really think you should ask it at the end of class to the lecturer, rather than waste the time of students who are prepared for class.

 

[clc8503]

There's a time and place. I hate people who don't bother to do pre-reading if they have doubts. I think the only questions that should be asked in class are the truly insightful, perspicacious ones. If you asked "What is ATP?" in a freshman biology lecture, I'd have been really pissed off by people like you. Also, if the lecturer has been noticeably vague or unclear about something that's relevant, then sure, ask for the benefit of the whole class. If you have such a basic question as about ATP, I really think you should ask it at the end of class to the lecturer, rather than waste the time of students who are prepared for class.

That was just an example. I never asked the definition ATP in class. I probally asked a few questions regarding the process of Cellular Respiration and the Calvin Benson Cycle though. I just thought the guy/girl made his/her posts with little insight reagarding others, and I just found it annoying. Besides, I finished with a 3.61341 BPCM gpa (That's not perfect but it's above average) which I think is pretty good, so it really doesn't matter what I had to ask because I came out ok.

 

[duckhunter25]

ok before you have a heart attack settle down


I don't have a god-complex.

The questions I am talking about are questions that a first year general chem student would know. I don't mind questions that are somewhat relevant to organic chem but if you're asking questions during lecture because you don't fully understand the concept of a mole 😱 These are the types of questions I don't like


btw, how do can you be stealer at chem and physics



Did you mean stellar? I am a god I am a god

 

[Law2Doc]

btw, how do can you be stealer at chem and physics



Did you mean stellar? I am a god I am a god

He was probably distracted by the game and meant Steelers...

 

[dimebag darrell]

I dont know any engineering premeds, but most of the premeds I know are considerably less intelligent than most of the engineers I have known. I havent really ever met a premed whos intelligence has impressed me. I have however known some engineers that are pretty freaking smart.

I agree wholeheartedly.

 

[tacrum43]

That was just an example. I never asked the definition ATP in class. I probally asked a few questions regarding the process of Cellular Respiration and the Calvin Benson Cycle though. I just thought the guy/girl made his/her posts with little insight reagarding others, and I just found it annoying. Besides, I finished with a 3.61341 BPCM gpa (That's not perfect but it's above average) which I think is pretty good, so it really doesn't matter what I had to ask because I came out ok.

Would you consider giving your GPA to the hundred-thousandths place to be annoying?