is it just me or are there too many pre-meds?

[clc8503]

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Would you consider giving your GPA to the hundred-thousandths place to be annoying?

Yeah, but I didn't start a thread about it. Did I?

 

[clc8503]

ok before you have a heart attack settle down


I don't have a god-complex.

The questions I am talking about are questions that a first year general chem student would know. I don't mind questions that are somewhat relevant to organic chem but if you're asking questions during lecture because you don't fully understand the concept of a mole 😱 These are the types of questions I don't like


btw, how do can you be stealer at chem and physics



Did you mean stellar? I am a god I am a god

Easy there killer! Is that all you got? No debate? All you can do is point out the fact that I misspelled a word in a post that I didn't think was even important enough to proof read. You might want to channel that energy into passing English 101 and 102! You're just a freshman premed. That really means nothing. Anything you think of me a merely hypothetical, so who cares if I confused the word that you pointed out with the video game. By the way, there is no way that someone could have made it to organic chemistry without fully understanding the concept of a mole. Get over yourself! Oh yeah, I don't know how do can you be stellar at organic chemistry and physics when you don't even know if you can get through general chemistry.

 

[Chris127]

Uggh, I am getting nervous again. I am only a frosh entering my 2nd semester, and here again I havfe found people on these boards saying "orgo will weed them out," after convincing myself that I will be able to handle it.

Is it really that bad?

I plan to dedicate this summer to taking Orgo, and nothing else.

 

[Law2Doc]

Uggh, I am getting nervous again. I am only a frosh entering my 2nd semester, and here again I havfe found people on these boards saying "orgo will weed them out," after convincing myself that I will be able to handle it.

Is it really that bad?

I plan to dedicate this summer to taking Orgo, and nothing else.

Orgo isn't impossible, just a bit different than the sciences you take prior to it. But honestly, taking orgo over the summer is much harder, assuming you are doing it at one of those compressed, two semesters in 8-10 weeks kind of places. You are better advised to take it durig a normal semester.

 

[tacrum43]

Yeah, but I didn't start a thread about it. Did I?

😕 While that statement is true, I don't really see the point of stating it.

 

[tulane06]

Uggh, I am getting nervous again. I am only a frosh entering my 2nd semester, and here again I havfe found people on these boards saying "orgo will weed them out," after convincing myself that I will be able to handle it.

Is it really that bad?

I plan to dedicate this summer to taking Orgo, and nothing else.

I hope I didn't undermine your confidence.....Orgo isn't "hard" per se, it will just require you to study hard and put a lot of effort into the class. Orgo weeds out people who lack the real determination needed to pass it.

 

[gujuDoc]

Uggh, I am getting nervous again. I am only a frosh entering my 2nd semester, and here again I havfe found people on these boards saying "orgo will weed them out," after convincing myself that I will be able to handle it.

Is it really that bad?

I plan to dedicate this summer to taking Orgo, and nothing else.

Any course is a weed out course if it gets a lot of premeds to drop the whole medicine thing. But as I noted above, please note that not all people change out of medicine for the reasons of bad grades or being afraid of the MCAT, but because they realize they are chasing a dream without fully understanding what medicine entails. If you want something badly enough, it eventually works itself out through hard work and doing what you need to do. But you've got to have it in you to do well in anything you do.

 

[femily]

umm...i sense really tense people in this thread...

as much as some (haha...ok most) typical pre-meds annoy me with their gunner-like attitudes and stupid class questions, as much as i hate to admit it, i'm kind of glad that they're around. their hyperactive ways of studying inspire to me to at least get with it and the stupid questions sometimes prompt the professor to re-explain stuff in a better way. so i guess some good comes with the bad. they'll always have all the med school help books (like the ultra-platinum edition) so you won't have to spend all your money on them...that is if you can get them to loan them out!

and for the other side...as a laid-back (pre-med) engineering student...i try to get my pre-med friends to relax with me and show them that you CAN go through this process and have a some fun too. like...instead of forcing yourself to study all friday night because you think you'll fail a test...come out of your study hole and at least have a coffee break! and if all the relentless mcat talk bugs you...just tell them to bugger off and go do something else.

so i guess what i'm trying to say is everyone lighten up and have a good time! (or not if that's more your thing) and respect all the weird types of people out there...because if everyone was the same it would so boring.

wow...i sound so inspirational

 

[Pewl]

Uggh, I am getting nervous again. I am only a frosh entering my 2nd semester, and here again I havfe found people on these boards saying "orgo will weed them out," after convincing myself that I will be able to handle it.

Is it really that bad?

I plan to dedicate this summer to taking Orgo, and nothing else.

I didn't even know what organic chemistry was until I took it. I got mostly B's in it (horribly tough curve) but it was fine. I can't remember a thing about it now but I think it's definitely doable.

You're a freshman in college. Have fun for God's sake. Quit worrying about this stuff. =P

 

[Philo]

honestly, the worst ones are the jackasses who sit in class and try to act like they're already doctors and actually think they know something about medicine because they read an article in newsweek...those are the ones that are gonna be the horrible doctors...

so true...

 

[duckhunter25]

how did you know that. I am a freshman pre-med who doesn't know anything. Actually I want to go to med school because doctor sounds good and the chicks dig it. And I did pass english with a D+

Yea you know me inside and out 🙄

 

[Shredder]

At your school does it seem like everyone you meet is pre-med? I can't figure out how and why there are so many people who think they want to go to med school. The worst ones are the people who sit in lecture and ask the most ******ed questions because they have no clue and yet they think they're going to be a doctor . I don't know whats worst that or the cheaters who always do their work and online tests in groups to pad their grade. I really hate it when you know some of them and you know they'd be an awful doctor but you can't help but think what if they get into med school and I don't.

The point of this whole thing is what percent of people who apply to med school actually get in? not to a specific school but just in general? And when do people realize they either won't get in or are not fit for the job?

Sorry for the rant

 

[21JumpStreet]

People give up on the idea of medicine for many reasons. Some move on to harder careers and some easier. A former classmate dropped the pre-med idea to pursue mathematics. He felt his mathematical talent would be wasted in medicine.

Overall People change careers for a variety of reasons. For instance, i've known someone that started college thinking that she wanted to be a psychologist and found the coursework to be very different than what she expected. Also, she wanted to be with her family more often and realized that it was impossible for her to do so. She'd have her bachelor's to work on and the rigourous grad program would take seven plus years.

 

[BooMed]

I didn't even know what organic chemistry was until I took it. I got mostly B's in it (horribly tough curve) but it was fine. I can't remember a thing about it now but I think it's definitely doable.

You're a freshman in college. Have fun for God's sake. Quit worrying about this stuff. =P

I agree. I majored in Spanish and didn't even know what a carbon atom was before I started my post bac program, and I got A's in Orgo. Just study enough and you'll be fine.

 

[Dr Trek 1]

Actually I want to go to med school because doctor sounds good and the chicks dig it

 

[quarterhorsecol]

Chris- orgo is subjective imho, don't listen to half the people on here. I didn't do so hot in gen chem but I worked very hard in orgo and learned it very well and ended up doing much better. Don't freak out. Every university is different. Our "weedout" class was Bio II. Go figure.

 

[Dr.Andrews]

True, but the majority of us will never take graduate level chemistry courses other than the Biochem etc. taught in medical school.

It is true. I am in Honors Chemistry and when I look back at sophmore Organic I just laugh. 😛

 

[chaldobruin]

When I see this thread, I think of a fellow front desk volunteer with whom I share shifts at a free clinic I work at. This guy has great EC's and "wants to be a doctor", but his GPA is pretty low, and worst of all he is EXTREMELY rude to the patients that come in! Im talking so rude its shocking.

For example, when patients come in without an appointment, I always end up saying "I'm so sorry blah blah, I wish I could help you but we are so backed up, you can't see the docs without an appointment. Can I maybe refer you to another low cost clinic that allows walk-ins? It is urgent? How do you feel? etc."

This guy will be like "This is a free clinic, tough luck, its free what do you expect??" in the most RUDE tone.

Its the little things that give you insight to people's character. I'd rather be get a check up from a donkey than this guy. Im hoping the process eventually weeds him out somehow..

 

[njbmd]

When I see this thread, I think of a fellow front desk volunteer with whom I share shifts at a free clinic I work at. This guy has great EC's and "wants to be a doctor", but his GPA is pretty low, and worst of all he is EXTREMELY rude to the patients that come in! Im talking so rude its shocking.

For example, when patients come in without an appointment, I always end up saying "I'm so sorry blah blah, I wish I could help you but we are so backed up, you can't see the docs without an appointment. Can I maybe refer you to another low cost clinic that allows walk-ins? It is urgent? How do you feel? etc."

This guy will be like "This is a free clinic, tough luck, its free what do you expect??" in the most RUDE tone.

Its the little things that give you insight to people's character. I'd rather be get a check up from a donkey than this guy. Im hoping the process eventually weeds him out somehow..

Hi there,
I believe the low GPA has already "weeded him out". Perhaps he is rude because he is not smart enough to have learned simple manners that most people master at age 4. Anyway, pity him and move on because he is likely not to go much further in medicine than the volunteer desk at the free clinic. Sometimes people come into your life as examples of what NOT to be when you grow up.

njbmd 🙂

 

[thes_hunter]

Hi there,
I believe the low GPA has already "weeded him out". Perhaps he is rude because he is not smart enough to have learned simple manners that most people master at age 4. Anyway, pity him and move on because he is likely not to go much further in medicine than the volunteer desk at the free clinic. Sometimes people come into your life as examples of what NOT to be when you grow up.

njbmd 🙂

My only pet peeve: At least at my school.....

Pre-med is not a major. Go try looking it up in the catalog, but you can't because it doesn't exist.

Instead of trying to impress people with your future dream, why not just be straight up with people and say something like "biochemisty", or "I don't know, General Studies"?

</rant>

 

[CardiacIntensivist]

Uggh, I am getting nervous again. I am only a frosh entering my 2nd semester, and here again I havfe found people on these boards saying "orgo will weed them out," after convincing myself that I will be able to handle it.

Is it really that bad?

I plan to dedicate this summer to taking Orgo, and nothing else.

Hey, there is also the slight possibility that you may end up LOVING orgo. I went into Orgo I terrified but determined. I found that I loved the subject and the class and you might too! Nowadays I'm busy trying to find anyway to take upper level Organic Chemistry courses without have to do research. Lesson: take an optimistic approach because you never know what may happen!!! Just because it is hard for many people doesn't mean it will be hard for you. 😉

 

[CardiacIntensivist]

Hi there,
I believe the low GPA has already "weeded him out". Perhaps he is rude because he is not smart enough to have learned simple manners that most people master at age 4. Anyway, pity him and move on because he is likely not to go much further in medicine than the volunteer desk at the free clinic. Sometimes people come into your life as examples of what NOT to be when you grow up.

njbmd 🙂

Wouldn't it be fantastic if that were true of all rude, undeserving pre-meds? But unfortunately there are ways to recover from a low GPA and it is not hard to fake being nice on paper, on interviews, or in front of superiors for a LOR. This probably happens for every job or organization, not just medical school. 🙁

I definately agree with your last sentence. That is the only way I cope with obnoxious people. I note the way they treat me and others and promise myself to not become that. But I also usually hope that that person changes for the better.

 

[SirTony76]

I ran scared from engineering, planned on biomedical engineering until i realized I was absolutely horrid at math. Whats that calculus joke about engineering, something like: gpa as degree approaches engineering = business major, something like that, i'm horrible at math so i probably killed the joke too... how sad.

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[Zoom-Zoom]

Looking for this?

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[bbas]

My only pet peeve: At least at my school.....

Pre-med is not a major. Go try looking it up in the catalog, but you can't because it doesn't exist.

Instead of trying to impress people with your future dream, why not just be straight up with people and say something like "biochemisty", or "I don't know, General Studies"?

</rant>

At some schools there is actually a premed or preprofessional major. I pity the people with this degree who never make it to med school....

 

[Addb]

At some schools there is actually a premed or preprofessional major. I pity the people with this degree who never make it to med school....

At my school it was called "Interdisciplinary Natural Sciences, Health Professions Track."

Thank God they at least changed the name to Biomedical Sciences lol

 

[bbas]

At my school it was called "Interdisciplinary Natural Sciences, Health Professions Track."

Thank God they at least changed the name to Biomedical Sciences lol

I can only imagine the blank stares people in that major must get when asked about it. Biomedical sciences sounds much better though..

 

[Dr Trek 1]

Psychology is the way to go 👍

 

[jackieMD2007]

Strong work. 👍

 

[Avalanche21]

Just something I heard somewhere: as a generalization, engineers are taught how to think and problem solve, whereas bio-type majors learn to memorize and regurgitate information.

Lol, being from a group of chem majors we always said that about the bio majors. So which is harder, depends who you ask, what school you're at, what prof you have, if you like math, etc... Physics is the most conceptual and mathematical of the natural sciences and is sometimes attributed to being the hardest. Biology is sometimes said to be the easiest because it is more of memorization. Chemistry is a medium between. Is this trend true? maybe, maybe not.

 

[plainolerichie]

I'm not sure if someone said it, but only about 50% of people who apply get in (to any medical school). Also, most of the people who start off premed freshman year, decide not to apply for many many reasons.

 

[CatsandCradles]

I'm not sure if someone said it, but only about 50% of people who apply get in (to any medical school). Also, most of the people who start off premed freshman year, decide not to apply for many many reasons.

I knew several people who became physics majors and biochemistry majors. They just became interrested in something else and decided to pursue it. These individuals did very well in OChem and would have done exceptionally well on the MCAT(s).

As for me, when someone asked what I was during my freshman year, I said I was sort of undecided between nursing and medical. Thus I avoided having to say "Pre-med"

 

[plainolerichie]

As for me, when someone asked what I was during my freshman year, I said I was sort of undecided between nursing and medical. Thus I avoided having to say "Pre-med"

Heh, as for me, I never said I was "premed" until early in my junior year, despite applying for Vanderbilt's early decision program as a Sophomore. (I was afraid of the MCAT). I wasn't even going to take physics, but my advisor for my bio major recommended it for the bio major although it's not required. Oh well, it changed in a year.

 

[fyi411]

I hate pre-meds. Sorry if I offend anyone, but generally speaking I find pre-meds to be an arrogant bunch of dinguses who have absolutely no idea what they're getting into and just want to wear the white coat. Jerks.

i'm sorry are you a premed?
if you are then i guess you are in the pack of "arrogant bunch of dinguses who have absolutely no idea........."

 

[windzilla]

How much true ochem do we use in med school anyway? I'll admit that I don't remember a thing about ochem, now, after grad school. My head is now filled with nuclear physics and radiation dosimetry. =P

I think the weed out should be two semesters of real bio-stats, not the piddily crap i got in undergrad. (ooh t-test). It would be very useful as a physician too.

 

[naru]

"i hate premeds, yet i am a premed and i'm posting this on a premed forum."

i love this thread... hilarious!

 

[plainolerichie]

Does this mean you hate us too?

 

[naru]

Does this mean you hate us too?

haha no. i just find it amusing that the theme of the thread is "premeds suck, except for us, we don't suck. but those other premeds suck."

somehow, i find it odd that i have to agree. i find a lot of premeds shallow and overly cynical. especially those premeds that look down on their professors bc they "only have a ph.d"

but i'm not shallow or over-cynical. in fact, i rule. 😎