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Hi,
I want to thank anyone who sees this for taking their time for everyone on this site. I remember looking here back in high school and got great advice and learned a lot about the process. It is amazing how many thousands of people you have guided through your work on SDN alone.
Unfortunately for me, knowing is not doing!
I apologize for the length of my post, I'll try to keep it concise.
I messed up undergrad. 2.9 Composite, 2.7 Science. I was immature and severely depressed. I took a semester of W's and expressed poor judgement in doing the same thing the next semester.. I went from being lively, working out 5 times a week for 4+ years, other hobbies, etc. to not leaving bed for very long each day. Things were bad, and I wasn't equipped to handle it. I ended up graduating in 5 years with a BS in neuroscience (along with several retakes, Ws and a few C's - 1 F, including in pre-reqs)
Once the depression/personal issues came up in year 2, I was coasting through life/school, doing the minimum to get by. I had no ambition or goals, just to graduate. I did continue to work as an ABA therapist through 4 years of school, and planned to get a job doing something unrelated to my degree where my GPA wouldn't be a problem. It pains me to write, and for a long time it paralyzed me from taking any action. When I finally realized how I was throwing my life away and had wasted an incredible opportunity, I thought long and hard about what I wanted (medicine). I had talked myself out of it for years, and I believe I used my poor mental health combined with poor work ethic as an excuse to self-sabotage things further. I talked to advisors/professors/adcoms at my school, and received mixed feedback (as expected). Some encouraged me, some tried to encourage other routes. Ultimately I was pretty insistent on giving it a shot if there was I thought a successful few years could make me a competitive applicant.
I was very fortunate to have no debt from undergrad, thanks to scholarships, money saved from work in highschool/working in undergrad and a contribution from my parents. I strongly preferred not to take out loans to pay for classes and dig myself an even bigger hole. So I got a job as a medical assistant at my university which allows full time employees to take 10 credits/semester for free. I figured this would be great for my app as well, as it would result in thousands of hours of clinical experience. I had Ochem and Physics left as far as premed classes.
Since graduating I have taken-
O chem I, II (10 cr)
Ochem Lab I, II (4 cr)
Physics I, II (10 cr)
For GPA of ~3.9 in the 24 credits of 'DIY Postbac', all while working full time as a medical assistant.
I know I never would have been half as motivated without all of the failure I had experienced. I can't explain how proud I am of my progress because I had been so 'passive' about my failure for so long. Most of the W's I had were from classes I never even showed up to. The C's were classes I would study for a max 2 days before the exam (only showing up on exam days). It feels so good to be actually doing the work. Of course, I think about what could have been sometimes, but I have finally learned and truly believe it to have been something that needed to happen in order for me to ever get my life together. I feel I should add I have learned to manage depression quite well with no medications and occasional therapy, after years of trying a combination of both. Of course, lifestyle changes have made a huge difference as well, especially exercising regularly.
I took a summer to study for the MCAT, I was fortunate my parents let me live with them so I didn't have to work. I studied for 12 weeks and managed a 515.
My plan is (was?) to take ~20-25 more credits over the next year while continuing to rack up my clinical hours.
Assuming I could continue my 3.9 from the first 24 credits, that would be ~50 credits of post-bac "high level" science with a 3.9. Obviously, the issue is that this still only brings my cgpa to 3.2. and sgpa to 3.1. Professors have been mostly receptive to my goal and work, but recently I spoke to a different professor who bluntly dismissed any chance of me making it to med school. I was taken aback a little, but I would prefer honest opinions and the hard truth if I am deluding myself.
So
I would be sitting around a 3.2 cgpa and 3.1 sgpa total (8? W's)
~50 credits of post bac science (3.9) completed while working full time as medical assistant
2 years working full time as medical assistant > 3500 hrs
4 years experience ABA therapist >2000 hrs
Hundreds of volunteer hours, clinical and non-clinical
~100 hrs shadowing total, from 2 different docs (No DO at this point)
Strong LORs from faculty who are aware of my academic history and goals
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I completely understand that my weak history is my own doing and I take full responsibility. It weighed me down for years. I am hoping to prove that I am a different person. That I was lost, young and struggling but will never go back to that person. I also understand that there are consequences to our actions.
Are my efforts futile or misguided? I would like to know if I am chasing a pipe dream. I want the hard truth if I am simply deluding myself into thinking I can still have a worthwhile shot at making it into med school. I know I would find success in something else, but I'm not sure I would be as satisfied.
My conviction is strong, but I also don't want to be ignorant. It would be hard for me give up now, but I have already proven a lot to myself and would rather put my efforts into another area if that is more realistic.
Any Chance at MD? DO?
Would you say I have to do an SMP after the postbac work? I am hesitant to do that only because of the extreme expense compared to the free classes I am currently taking.
Thank you for your time and feedback, I really appreciate it. You are truly giving me invaluable information about my future.
I think that if you articulate this well within your personal statement, and your letter writers who are well-aware of everything, you will be fine. The 3.2/3.1 may still hold you back to some degree, so if I were in your shoes, I'd apply broadly to DO.
The upward trend, the story, recognizing everything and taking control, the 515 are all in your favor. DO schools tend to be more forgiving and open and you'd likely get some love from some of them.
Good luck!