1. Guest, be sure to check out How To Get Into Dental School, our free downloadable PDF with step-by-step details for dental school applicants!
    Dismiss Notice
  2. Dismiss Notice
Dismiss Notice
Last chance to give your feedback! Fill out the 2019 SDN Member Survey to let us know what's important to you (and win prizes!)

is "it's not what you know but who you know" true?

Discussion in 'Pre-Dental' started by smile4me, Mar 9, 2007.

  1. smile4me

    2+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2006
    Messages:
    12
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Pre-Dental
    Hi everyone

    I just had a curious question, has anyone heard, or gotten into dental school because they knew someone from the admissions committee or anyone who worked in the dental "admissions" office? Does knowing someone at the admissions office of your dental school give you an advantage?
     
  2. I'mFillingFine

    I'mFillingFine Pulptastic
    5+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2005
    Messages:
    3,530
    Likes Received:
    3
    Status:
    Dental Student
    I haven't heard of this.....probably around 1/3 of the people applying have dentist family members (I'm just making this up, but it's a lot), and most of those at least apply to the schools that family member went to. So everyone knows everyone anyway (and dentistry is a VERY peer-based profession....you don't go to jail, you get "peer reviewed" :D)

    People who don't get accepted in a year may claim this is true, but I doubt that knowing people in the school would gain you an enormous advantage since people know people anyway. I've heard it is more common in law school, where jobs are dependent on who you've hobnobbed with along the way.

    However, i HAVE heard that this is true in applying to specialty schools. Receiving schools trust the opinion of certain faculty members over another, so they will value LORs from certain professors more than others.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  3. fancymylotus

    fancymylotus A Whole New World
    Dentist 10+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2004
    Messages:
    36,046
    Likes Received:
    17,663
    NO. Believe me. I know.:mad:
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  4. Drill2Fill

    Drill2Fill DentalStudentWannabe
    5+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2006
    Messages:
    1,096
    Likes Received:
    1
    Status:
    Pre-Dental
    So you are mad that you didnt get the advantange of nepotism?
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  5. SugarNaCl

    SugarNaCl Dental Student
    Moderator Emeritus 5+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2006
    Messages:
    1,869
    Likes Received:
    6
    Status:
    Dentist
    I had a friend who both knew someone on Adcom for one school AND his dad worked in close association. He was rejected from that school despite having the committee "on his side."
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  6. fancymylotus

    fancymylotus A Whole New World
    Dentist 10+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2004
    Messages:
    36,046
    Likes Received:
    17,663
    You've got PM.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  7. drpduck

    drpduck Senior Member
    7+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2001
    Messages:
    307
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Dental Student
    I think any field has some extent of "who you know". However, I'd say for the most part it plays a very little role in dental admissions. Almost everyone I know either had a parent that went to a school they were applying to or had a dentist friend that could make a call for them. But honestly it didn't really seem to make a difference. If two candidates were equal and the school was trying to pick between them, then knowing them might help a little. But this does not mean that if you have a 2.5 gpa but you know AdCom members that you will get in. Everyone that gets admitted to D-school is because the AdCom believes they will get through. It would make the school look pretty bad if they admitted a 2.5 gpa person because they had connections and they went around saying "how their dad got them in" or failed out. To get admitted, your academics (GPA/DAT) are going to get looked at first, if you don't make the cut, it won't matter how many people you know, because you won't get in.
     
  8. lemoncurry

    lemoncurry tequila mockingbird
    Staff Member Administrator Dentist Verified Expert 10+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2006
    Messages:
    3,733
    Likes Received:
    884
    Status:
    Dentist
    it may work in my favor, at least in terms of getting a second interview at a certain school. but then again, having a relative in congress didn't help me get into a school in his state.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  9. bruinpredent

    bruinpredent UCLA School of Dentistry
    7+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2006
    Messages:
    773
    Likes Received:
    1
    Status:
    Dental Student

    ^ theres your answer. spot on.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  10. eleminopee

    eleminopee I've got 2 infractions!
    5+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2006
    Messages:
    176
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Pre-Dental
    knowing people doesn't help you at all in life because most of the people you know don't actually like you. sorry
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  11. SHC1984

    SHC1984 Membership Revoked
    Removed 5+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2007
    Messages:
    6,105
    Likes Received:
    20
    Status:
    Pharmacy Student
    thats true in EVERY FIELD. how else are you going to explain why someone with a 17 on the DAT got accepted and someone with a 25 on the DAT DIDN'T get accepted?? its called connections...



     
  12. armorshell

    armorshell One Man Freak Show
    Physician Dentist Moderator Emeritus Verified Expert 10+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2006
    Messages:
    7,173
    Likes Received:
    233
    Status:
    Non-Student
    Whatever helps you sleep at night. While they certainly do matter, numbers aren't everything.
     
  13. xdianaax

    xdianaax In memory of Riley Jane
    Moderator Emeritus 7+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2006
    Messages:
    1,379
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Pre-Health (Field Undecided)
    Where it may help you, it won't make you. You might get the interview because of whoever you might know but there's always going to be someone you don't, and if you don't have something that impresses everyone I don't think it will help you. There's only so much a connection can do, and for the most part I think they make strict rules about helping people and stuff...at least that's what i've heard.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  14. leedizzal

    2+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2007
    Messages:
    60
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Pre-Dental

    Of course it does, the whole world works this way "Its not what you know, its whom you know..."


    That being said if you have good marks and work real hard you will make it... Sure doesnt hurt to know people though that can help pull strings for you. Anybody that believes this is not true is awfully naive to the way the real world works...
     
  15. catytweety

    catytweety Member
    5+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2006
    Messages:
    166
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Dental Student
    I agree - to a certain extent, ofcourse knowing someone can help you... but that can only get your foot in the door. Ultimately your credentials and personality will make it or break it for you.

    (Unless your mother/father is like the head of the admissions committee or something - which I still think would not completely get you in)
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  16. blue_moon01

    2+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2006
    Messages:
    313
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Pre-Dental
    It definitely helps to have connections if you've got the 3.5 Sci GPA and 20+ DAT.

    I'm not being sarcastic. I exaggerated the numbers a little but basically if you dont have at least the minimal requirements, no connections are gonna help you. Period. (in most cases.. never say never cause we do live in a capitalist country afterall.. and money sometimes talk louder than grades and scores.)
     
  17. Ething

    Ething Junior Member
    7+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2006
    Messages:
    401
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Dental Student
    Having connections will usually work as long as you are a qualified candidate.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  18. pacbum

    7+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2006
    Messages:
    431
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Pre-Dental
    couldn't have said it better myself
     
  19. amichail

    5+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2006
    Messages:
    167
    Likes Received:
    0
    I had "hook-ups" for addmission to UMDNJ... however, they were the first of many to reject me... LOL... Who you know my a$$!
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  20. utahdent123

    utahdent123 Senior Member
    5+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2005
    Messages:
    377
    Likes Received:
    0
    Some schools have alumni family provisions. For example, Case will offer interviews to alumni children pretty much guaranteed. Whether you get accepted is another thing, but at least you get the interview.
     

Share This Page