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[MixedAnimals77]

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Can someone please explain to me why Capri doesn't seem wolfy? That's where I was gonna put my vote today and I guess I'm not understanding why I'm skeeved out but most of the rest of you are not.

Heads up that I'm dragging all the resident ambassadors to a PR event today, so I'll be MIA until later this evening

Also you're not the only one, but I'm not sure I'm ready to go there quite yet.

 

[youngkal]

Care to elaborate?

I mean if you had one you’d know but i was told there was so much Mischief last night that i couldn’t concentrate. Therefore unsuccessful. And there was no NK. I’m just a little confused. Curious what others are thinking

 

[MixedAnimals77]

I mean if you had one you’d know but i was told there was so much Mischief last night that i couldn’t concentrate. Therefore unsuccessful. And there was no NK. I’m just a little confused. Curious what others are thinking

Yeah didn't have one which is why I asked. Hmmm. Possibilities I can think of: conversion but I doubt that would affect you like that unless you're the convert which would make sense because you're the most cleared player of the game. I don't know if you are the convert though why you would come out with this much info unless it's a tactic. Other possibility I could think of would be a night cancel which seems like that might be a given ability...I'd love to hear what Sports thoughts on this are. Or something else that I have no idea.

 

[Coopah]

Hm I could go capri, jboo, or paws. Paws wasn't on my radar until I read her posts from last night a idk if it's a deliberate misinterpretation or just didn't understand. Also she seems to have pulled Mixy into the limelight and almost seems to be manufacturin evidence. I'll go there for now.

Lynch Paws

 

[MixedAnimals77]

Gonna go ahead and go with my strongest feels coupled with all my previous reasoning. Plus IDK how much I'll be around later today.
###Lynch paws ###

 

[JustPaws]

I've been know to aggressively interrogate. Although in all the questions AM asked me I only asked those 3 back which I think if fair to try and get other theories out there. Already addressed and retracted my theory-crazier ones have been put out there...also Staffy seems to like to use me when he's a wolf (go check last game he was a wolf and I was village he did the same exact thing) also always take with a grain of salt what a known wolf said.That's why I was asking about mechanics and didn't directly accuse of anything! Plus you've spun far greater lies before so don't eye roll at me, because some of your statements this game have been less than ideal.Care to elaborate?

Hmm, I can appreciate this response
For now
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Unlynch mixy
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Not sure where to put a vote yet. Will do the iso's later today and get back on

 

[JustPaws]

Hm I could go capri, jboo, or paws. Paws wasn't on my radar until I read her posts from last night a idk if it's a deliberate misinterpretation or just didn't understand. Also she seems to have pulled Mixy into the limelight and almost seems to be manufacturin evidence. I'll go there for now.

Lynch Paws

Gonna go ahead and go with my strongest feels coupled with all my previous reasoning. Plus IDK how much I'll be around later today.
###Lynch paws ###

You all are lynching vanilla village.

 

[jaboo]

Maybe add some good original thoughts too. Help game solve. Mel has implied several things what do u you think about them?

I did, but I can add more in the morning when I'm not about to nod off. While everyone was perusing who made the tie for mayor election, I tried to figure out why there was 2 kills N1. There may be an odd-night extra kill wolf or a vig (far less likely) out there.

I'll also address Mel in the morning.

A johnnaboo always pays her debts.

I'm really unsure of the odd night extra kill wolf thing now bc there wasn't a kill last night. Leaning moreso toward a noob vig, but other ideas are welcome. That's the biggest puzzle to me. Also who was blocked last night?

Onto Mel.

First sketchy thing was him putting pressure on YK and then immediately hopping over to questioning you, Coop, before YK confirmed she protected someone the following night. Seems OOC for Mel to back off that easily before having evidence.

Add to that increased Mel cheekiness and Mel crept up my sketch list. Already noted that Mel has been playing more sassily, but that could just be my own interpretation.

Also his soft defense of staffy and not targeting him because he didn't have many posts seems off now knowing staffy's affiliation. Could have been trying to protect the noob wolf. So I'm sticking with

Lynch Mel

 

[Melchizedek]

I mean if you had one you’d know but i was told there was so much Mischief last night that i couldn’t concentrate. Therefore unsuccessful. And there was no NK. I’m just a little confused. Curious what others are thinking

Can you clarify, you're saying that you were told this last night?

 

[capri1722]

Idea just occurred to me, maybe the wolves got an extra kill on resurrection nights? That would be neato and would explain why we haven't seen another double kill night.

That seems difficult to coordinate logistically. Especially since you believe it was a player rez:

I suppose that's possible but they at least played it like they were waiting on a player decision

Like what if the rezzer didn't submit an action until very late?

 

[capri1722]

Tensions were high even after catching a tree-climbing lion who was suspected of killing members of the group. Seems no one could agree on who was clear of blame and who else might be responsible for killing people. Everyone woke up worried about who would be next. A head count found no one was missing. Unsure that that was correct, another count was done and sure enough everyone was present. Not sure what to make of it and whether it meant someone had betrayed them, everyone decided to just look on the positive side and hunt for the other killers. Maybe the mood would be lighter today without the stress of another death

Surprised no one has mentioned the possibility of a conversion. Writeup seems pretty clear IMO.

 

[youngkal]

Can you clarify, you're saying that you were told this last night?

Yes

 

[kaydubs]

D4 Lynch Tally

paws (4) - pippy, kal, Coops, MA
mixy ()
jboo (1) - mel
Melby (1) - jhobo

6/11

Deadline ~ 9 hours

 

[capri1722]

Kal, any chance you can share who you protected last night?

 

[WildZoo]

That seems difficult to coordinate logistically. Especially since you believe it was a player rez:

Like what if the rezzer didn't submit an action until very late?

You tell the wolves they may get an extra kill and to submit one just in case. Easy peasy.

 

[WildZoo]

Surprised no one has mentioned the possibility of a conversion. Writeup seems pretty clear IMO.

Idk, I think mixy said the word convert like 4 times 😉

I'm not surprised to see a conversion happen if I'm right about the numbers though. It's dangerous to go alone!

 

[Melchizedek]

Possibilities for no kill:
1. Wolves were blocked
2. Protector protected the target
3. Night was cancelled
4. Conversion
5. Wolves forgot to submit an action.

1 and 2 are off the table if YK was blocked last night. Nothing in the write up suggests 3.
4 and 5 seem plausible.

What I don’t understand is why people were thinking the blocks were villager inclined because it doesn’t make sense for village to block the protector. Now if the wolves were worried that their conversion attempt wouldn’t go through then I can see them wanting to block the protector on the night they converted.

I have another theory but don’t want to say it in case it influences the end result.

 

[JustPaws]

Possibilities for no kill:
1. Wolves were blocked
2. Protector protected the target
3. Night was cancelled
4. Conversion
5. Wolves forgot to submit an action.

1 and 2 are off the table if YK was blocked last night. Nothing in the write up suggests 3.
4 and 5 seem plausible.

What I don’t understand is why people were thinking the blocks were villager inclined because it doesn’t make sense for village to block the protector. Now if the wolves were worried that their conversion attempt wouldn’t go through then I can see them wanting to block the protector on the night they converted.

I have another theory but don’t want to say it in case it influences the end result.

Tin foil: #1 could still be true if YK lied about being protector, she and pips are wolves, and the blocker blocked her.

Not very likely but putting it out there anyways

 

[JustPaws]

Think you need to reread some earlier coop and staffy posts, keeping in mind that staffy flipped wolf.

Yeah I guess I can see that after reread with staff as wolf

 

[Melchizedek]

Tin foil: #1 could still be true if YK lied about being protector, she and pips are wolves, and the blocker blocked her.

Not very likely but putting it out there anyways

haha yes, thats what I was getting at with:

I have another theory but don’t want to say it in case it influences the end result.

ETA: Based on yesterday, the long-shot scenario I see Pippy as a wolf is if staffy asked for a replacement in the wolf PM and the mods said they weren't gonna be able to find one, so Pippy bussed him to get village cred since he'd be mod-killed anyway. But even this is a little tin-foil for me.

 

[Mad Jack]

haha yes, thats what I was getting at with:


ETA: Based on yesterday, the long-shot scenario I see Pippy as a wolf is if staffy asked for a replacement in the wolf PM and the mods said they weren't gonna be able to find one, so Pippy bussed him to get village cred since he'd be mod-killed anyway. But even this is a little tin-foil for me.

Pippy really isn't reading wolf to me

 

[JustPaws]

Pippy really isn't reading wolf to me

Willing to say who IS reading wolf to you?

 

[Mad Jack]

Willing to say who IS reading wolf to you?

When I have a strong read I share it. It's easier to sort villagers from wolves because wolves usually have to make a mistake to give themselves away, but as of this time the only players I'm reading strong in either capacity are mel and pips who both read village. Everyone else I'm still feeling out, because a lot of them I don't know.

 

[WildZoo]

Think my top suspects right now are capri, jboo, and mixy. Not necessarily in that order, and I likely won't vote for capri because that feels like a tunnel waiting to happen. I'm going to reread yesterday's lynch and see if I can glean anything from it and staffy's prior posts.

I had some feels about cheezit but I honestly don't think he would have stuck his neck out for staffy like that.

 

[JustPaws]

Think my top suspects right now are capri, jboo, and mixy. Not necessarily in that order, and I likely won't vote for capri because that feels like a tunnel waiting to happen. I'm going to reread yesterday's lynch and see if I can glean anything from it and staffy's prior posts.

I had some feels about cheezit but I honestly don't think he would have stuck his neck out for staffy like that.

I could see these three as well, I get confused with Capri though because she has sound logic that I agree with often.

 

[WildZoo]

I could see these three as well, I get confused with Capri though because she has sound logic that I agree with often.

Yeah one of the reasons for the reread. I want to listen to the people who I think are village, but not ignore my own feels either. It's hard knowing when to trust myself...

 

[kaydubs]

D4 Lynch Tally

paws (4) - pippy, kal, Coops, MA
mixy ()
jboo (1) - mel
Melby (1) - jhobo

6/11

Deadline ~ 5.5 hours

 

[kaydubs]

😴
Role call:
@WildZoo @Mad Jack @capri1722 @StayingPositive2017 @SportPonies

 

[Mad Jack]

😴
Role call:
@WildZoo @Mad Jack @capri1722 @StayingPositive2017 @SportPonies

We're thinking come onnnnnm

 

[kaydubs]

We're thinking come onnnnnm

I was sleeping. Move it, slowpokes.

 

[WildZoo]

I was sleeping. Move it, slowpokes.

Hey man I didn't roll out of bed until 3pm

 

[Mad Jack]

Lynch jboo

 

[kaydubs]

D4 Lynch Tally

paws (4) - pippy, kal, Coops, MA
mixy ()
jboo (2) - mel, MJ
Melby (1) - jhobo

7/11

Deadline ~ 4.25 hours

 

[kaydubs]

Role call:
@WildZoo @capri1722 @StayingPositive2017 @SportPonies

 

[SportPonies]

Still haven't been given any reason not to, so ******lynch capri*******

 

[WildZoo]

Some of these are a little out of order because I was trying to group topics so...apologies. I tried to keep context intact where I could.

Would also like to hear more from Staffy today. I could switch to him easily because he's still setting off my feels.

Quoted to see if she followed up on this, which she did

Lynch staffy

Because his earlier post did nothing to ease my worries. And he's been more quiet than usual.

Could also go Mel. But what else is new?

And initially that was making me feel better about jboo.
However, she was really quick to jump back off the lynch when staffy said he was requesting a sub. Like, I think it was the very next post.

Well, poop.

Unlynch staffy
Lynch Mel

So that raises the hairs on the back of my neck.

FYI I think blocker is probably village

Thought this as well

I'm curious about the initial reasons for this feeling as well as what you guys think now. I think it's still possible if we go with something a little less likely, like what pip suggested here. In that case, maybe the reason for the no kill was that yk is a wolf and was successfully blocked.

And, there have been wolf protectors in the past so while I don't think you are wolfy, I don't mind if people look into you later in the game. Like, track you (best case scenario) or block you again at some point.

But I think occam's razor would point to yk is the village protector and was blocked by a wolf blocker.

Alrighty some sketch before I go to work. Paws has jumped up on my sketch list. She's basically been voting without any sorts of reasons which isn't helpful to village. She's been avoiding answering questions and giving what people she feels is sketchy and why besides me. She also says she doesn't see why this person is sketch but this person could be but fails to provide any sort of reason as to why they are thinking one way or another. Maybe I'm wrong, but this feels an awful lot like Michigan when AM would ask her 20questions and she would avoid them/give vague answers and ride others thoughts.

I'm gonna go ahead and go with my coop theory for now that way if I don't make lynch close I'll have at least voted. The whole mel and pip situation isn't giving me any feels or useful reads.
###lynch coop###
Will waffle if it avoids a tie if I'm able to get on before close and the tally is situated as such

Have to go back and find the original post where she talked about coop because the post before this one didn't lay it out. But I found this vote interesting considering the context (I believe coop and staffy were already the frontrunners at this point) and the fact that earlier it seemed Mixy was much more interested in paws, and gave more solid reasoning, than with coop.

Was NOT getting feels from Coop until I iso'd her. It's been a while since I played with her, and she literally died D1 when I played with her as wolf, so I feel like I don't have a good idea of how she actually plays... but I'm seeing a whole lot of AM-level questioning, which I don't recall her doing in the past, and then the remainder of her posts are mostly short one-sentence comments. Not a huge fan.

Honestly coop's style this game has read much more villager with a little time coop than wolf coop, to me. Not super aggressive, but engaged. I also hate to punish increased involvement, so I kind of dislike the "more participation, must be wolf" hunting tactic. Would much rather look at what the content is than the amount of content. And I think the interactions between coop and staffy this game essentially clear her.

This was the laziest most half-assed vote I have seen from you yet.

This was directed at MJ, and I forgot to comment on it before, but if that's the laziest vote you've seen from him, I don't think you've been paying attention 😉 Actually I think part of his bias might be that he was a wolf who asked for a sub (i believe that was in immuno), all the suspicion on him dissipated, and his hydra sub lasted much longer into the game than he would have otherwise.

After iso skimming Coop I'm gonna

Lynch Staff

For tie breaking purposes

Edit: lmaoooooo ninja'd twice

The timing of this still bothers meeeeee
But I can't find much else at the moment that really points at capri other than timing issues, which are hard to analyze with people having busy lives. So I'm more focused on mixy and jboo.

participate tingling

Quoted for the lulz

 

[kaydubs]

Wow, did DubZ get body snatched by Crayola....

 

[kaydubs]

D4 Lynch Tally

paws (4) - pippy, kal, Coops, MA
mixy ()
jboo (2) - mel, MJ
Melby (1) - jhobo
Capri (1) - Sporty

@StayingPositive2017 - you lead.

8/11

Deadline ~ 2.75 hours

Role call:
@WildZoo @capri1722 @StayingPositive2017

 

[Mad Jack]

Wow, did DubZ get body snatched by Crayola....

Gotta add some innuendo if you want proper cray

 

[JustPaws]

Think my top suspects right now are capri, jboo, and mixy. Not necessarily in that order, and I likely won't vote for capri because that feels like a tunnel waiting to happen. I'm going to reread yesterday's lynch and see if I can glean anything from it and staffy's prior posts.

I had some feels about cheezit but I honestly don't think he would have stuck his neck out for staffy like that.

Unlynch YK
Relynch Staffy

Lynch jboo

I'm having a little trouble with the jboo Lynch, do we think she would Lynch staffy, D1 and then relynch him 30 minutes before Lynch risking him when everyone was waffling off YK? I'm just not sure

 

[WildZoo]

Wow, did DubZ get body snatched by Crayola....

I was posting long posts before she was even playing WW!

Hmph. Noobs always steal my thunder.
Watch me make a color coded tally (@Animal Midwife)

 

[WildZoo]

I'm having a little trouble with the jboo Lynch, do we think she would Lynch staffy, D1 and then relynch him 30 minutes before Lynch risking him when everyone was waffling off YK? I'm just not sure

One of the reasons I haven't decided on that vote yet. It feels really risky, especially if I'm right about the numbers.
However, she is a student of some great wolf mentors (hehe), so...idk, I wouldn't put the tactic past her. If it's something you could see pippy, karabou, or myself doing...it's something jboo could do. So look at it that way.

 

[WildZoo]

lynch mixy

Because I want that on the board in case I run out of time to keep changing my mind.

 

[JustPaws]

One of the reasons I haven't decided on that vote yet. It feels really risky, especially if I'm right about the numbers.
However, she is a student of some great wolf mentors (hehe), so...idk, I wouldn't put the tactic past her. If it's something you could see pippy, karabou, or myself doing...it's something jboo could do. So look at it that way.

I sodon know, it was really well timed with her waffling and the reveals. She's been on Staffy for multiple days so just intense for bussing.
If I vote that way it would be self prez

For now I'm going back to
###
Lynch mixy
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[JustPaws]

lynch mixy

Because I want that on the board in case I run out of time to keep changing my mind.

Ninja'd

 

[JustPaws]

@PippyPony @youngkal @Coopah
Can I answer any questions?

 

[JustPaws]

I was posting long posts before she was even playing WW!

Hmph. Noobs always steal my thunder.
Watch me make a color coded tally (@Animal Midwife)

Please do, have only had mobile, too hard to copy paste and switch between lynches or I would have already

 

[JustPaws]

Hm I could go capri, jboo, or paws. Paws wasn't on my radar until I read her posts from last night a idk if it's a deliberate misinterpretation or just didn't understand. Also she seems to have pulled Mixy into the limelight and almost seems to be manufacturin evidence. I'll go there for now.

Lynch Paws

What misinterpretation/ lack of understanding?

 

[WildZoo]

Overall I find lynch trackers or strike-through tallies to be more useful, gives you more info, but I don't have time to go through and do that so I settle for this.


Day 1 Final Tracker Election

Genny (1) - Genny
dubz (4) - mj, dubz, coop, finimal
finimal (4) - mixy, paws, kal, mel
staffy () -
sporty (4) - skim, roz, sporty, jboo
mel () -
roz (1) - capri
coop (1) - staffy

15/16
Missing: pippy

D2 Final Tally

mel (2) - mj, capri
staffy (1) - jboo
Kal (3) - sporty, mel, paws
jboo (1) - roz
roz (5) - pippy, mixy, coop, kal, finiaml

missing: staffy

12/13


D3 Lynch Tally

staffy (6) - pippy, dubz, MJ, coop, YK, capri
coop (3) - mel, sporty, MA
mixy ()
Kal () -
Mel (2) - staffy, jboo
Sporty (1) - paws
jboo ()

12/12

 

[kaydubs]

I was posting long posts before she was even playing WW!

Hmph. Noobs always steal my thunder.
Watch me make a color coded tally (@Animal Midwife)

I was doing a lot of WWing prior to any of you playing ...