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ha, so sad, but so true........
LECOM - Bradenton Discussion thread 2007-2008
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ha, so sad, but so true........
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Some people prefer it that way
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He's actually a great guy as well, does alot of mission work too. Sorry the announcers liked him. Might be a better pick then last year. ( 41 -whaa?)
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So I was looking at the schedule for rotations which says
Third Year Rotations
Internal Medicine I, II, III
Surgery I, II
Obstetrics/Gynecology
Family Medicine
Pediatrics
Core Selective
Elective I, II
Psychiatry/Behavioral Health
Vacation (4 weeks)
Fourth Year Rotations
Emergency Medicine I, II
Medicine Selective
Primary Care Selective
Surgery Selective
Ambulatory Medicine I, II
Rural/Underserved
Elective I, II, III, IV
Vacation (4 weeks)
Now I know everything is ever changing since it is all new and what not but what would be some examples of choices for selectives and electives, what is the difference between selectives and electives?
Third Year Rotations
Internal Medicine I, II, III
Surgery I, II
Obstetrics/Gynecology
Family Medicine
Pediatrics
Core Selective
Elective I, II
Psychiatry/Behavioral Health
Vacation (4 weeks)
Fourth Year Rotations
Emergency Medicine I, II
Medicine Selective
Primary Care Selective
Surgery Selective
Ambulatory Medicine I, II
Rural/Underserved
Elective I, II, III, IV
Vacation (4 weeks)
Now I know everything is ever changing since it is all new and what not but what would be some examples of choices for selectives and electives, what is the difference between selectives and electives?
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A core selective must be in IM, Peds, OBGYN, Surgery or Psych-- what we consider the "core" rotations. A surgery selective can be general surgery or any subspecialty of surgery. A Primary Care selective is pretty much what it says. An elective can be in anything you want. If you want to do a reasearch month, it must be in an elective. If you want to do one of the international rotations (Australia, Europe, etc.) it must be done during an elective. that help?
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yes very much, so a selective is just a subspeciality in that particular area? Thanks
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I think you just know. At least that's how I felt.How can you know if PBL is right for you???
I think if you go into it with the right attitude (i.e., totally fired up about it), it can be extremely effective. Then again, there's something to be said for the structure of classroom lectures too.
LECOM-Bradenton seems to be set up with the goal of giving their students as much free study time as possible. PBL instead of hours of lectures. Prosection instead of dissection anatomy lab. They really trim the fat from medical school curriculum. Some people may feel that this is too much freedom. Almost nobody will have had a lot of PBL in undergrad, so it could make some folks uneasy.
Personally, I think I would love it. Then again, I funtion well with a lot of structure, and when my schedule is jam-packed with stuff to do. I'm not always as efficient when I have a lot of freedom with my schedule.
I hope no 1 else has asked this already cuz I don't have time to look up old posts atm...
I don't have a DO letter of Rec yet (I have an MD letter in the committee packet from my school, tho). Anyway I'm going to try to shadow a DO in January so I won't have a letter until feb or march.
Do I have to have ALL my letters before being invited for an interview?
I don't have a DO letter of Rec yet (I have an MD letter in the committee packet from my school, tho). Anyway I'm going to try to shadow a DO in January so I won't have a letter until feb or march.
Do I have to have ALL my letters before being invited for an interview?
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How can you know if PBL is right for you???
I think one of the key things to ask yourself is whether you learn better through self-directed studies or through teacher-directed studies. If you are a "self-learner" and find lectures stifling and tedious, the freedom of PBL will probably suit you. If, however, you are looking for someone to direct your learning, ie breakdown what you need to know into a nice outline for you and keep you on a tight schedule for learning it, you may find yourself frustrated and flailing here.
People often also mention self motivation as a key factor to succeed in PBL, which is true, although personally I think that's gonna be important in any med school pathway.
Thinking back over your undergrad years and how you did in lecture-based classes versus those that emphasized more independent work might give you some idea of how well PBL would fit you.
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I was invited for an interview before having all my letters of recommendation submitted; however, they were all received by LECOM prior to my acceptance. They must have received my letter the month and a half between my receiving the phone call for an interview and my actual acceptance letter coming in the mail. Hope that helps.
Hi all..
If any current students or residents of Bradenton read this message, would you please let me know what are some of the good elementary schools?
I am reasonably sure I am moving to Bradenton next fall. I am researching on buying a small house there. So, a good/safe neighborhood is important. I also want to find a good elementary school where my child can go.
Thank for any info or pointers.
If any current students or residents of Bradenton read this message, would you please let me know what are some of the good elementary schools?
I am reasonably sure I am moving to Bradenton next fall. I am researching on buying a small house there. So, a good/safe neighborhood is important. I also want to find a good elementary school where my child can go.
Thank for any info or pointers.
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I'd like to hear this too...
I *think* the schools in Lakewood Ranch are pretty good, but that's simply based on a day driving around the neighborhood...
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I don't have kids yet so I'm not familiar with the schools but here's some info from the Lakewood Ranch website:
http://www.lakewoodranch.com/community/schools.cfm
Lakewood Ranch is a really nice area and pretty new so I'd imagine you wouldn't have too many problems there. Really this whole area around and to the east of I-75 is that way. Not like to the west more in "downtown" Bradenton and closer to the coast where it may get iffy in some areas.
So I mailed my deposit on Saturday and I got an email today saying they received it. So I guess I'm going to be part of the 2012 class!!!! Now I have a long wait ahead of me. I can't wait to start looking for apartments and stuff.
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Congrats! Check out our SGA website as time goes on, usually people will start posting apartments for rent and others who are looking for roomates.
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WOOT! I got an interview at LECOM-B, finally! It's this Friday. Now I'm getting kinda nervous. lol. 😀
Anyone else going on Friday Dec 7th?
Anyone else going on Friday Dec 7th?
I have my interview on December 17th. I am a traditional applicant and I feel like most people interviewing are nontraditional. Any insights? Also, I have only read positive responses to the interview at Bradenton, has anyone heard negatives besides being dissappointed with PBL and the size of the school, I am more interested in interview negatives.
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I'm a semi-nontrad (I'm 29) but most of my interview group was pretty similar to my other interviews at MD schools...ages 22-25 for the most part...
I really enjoyed the PBL session I saw...it seems like a great way for me to learn...I learn better when I'm actually applying the material, rather than just memorizing...
I can memorize with the best of 'em, but it doesn't stick unless I apply it...
The only negatives on my list for LECOM-B are:
1. New school, so no residency placement yet...Although I asked my interviewer about this and he told me people have done interviews at some pretty prestigious places (Hopkins, etc)...This is important to me since I'm interested in a competitive specialty (rads).
2. I've *heard* some opinions (and others say the opposite) that the administration is not the greatest about responding to the students' concerns. Don't know how true or important it is...It could just be people mad that they can't eat and drink in class...I don't know...
3. Some people don't like the area, and think it's in the middle of nowhere, but I didn't really get this impression. It's not NYC, but it seemed there'd be plenty to keep one busy in their limited free time.
4. Some people don't like the dress code...
As far as the actual interview day goes, I enjoyed it. The interview was pretty low stress. They give you an article to read (in about 10min) and they ask you to talk about in the interview...I guess to see how well you absorb and recall information...but it was pretty easy, don't sweat it.
There's not alot to the school, nice building, but you don't spend alot of time there as a student, so...labs looked nice. PBL rooms are nice, but small...library is pretty lame, but I'm fine with online materials...as much as I'll use them...
Have fun. Go to the beach. Good luck!
I heard from them the day my file was complete with them. So I think as soon as they get all of your materials you should hear back fairly quickly. I don't think I'm a stellar candidate but I heard back really fast and was accepted.
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I can't agree with this one at all. Many of the changes that have been made in the last few years have been due to student suggestions. You are required to evaluate each course and each professor (anonymously) and the administration has responded in a lot of areas. For example, you won't have the same ethics professor that I did because we complained about her and she was fired. We complained about the way the OSCEs were graded in clinical exam. We came back this year with a new system in place (This one is likely to change again, though). You even have student reps sitting on the curiculum committee.
There are only five rules and they are set in stone. Among them are the no eating/drinking in class and dresscode. If you don't like them, don't come here. No amount of complaining will change these rules, so plan not to complain about them. It's a waste of your time.
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LauraDO: I heard back from them VERY, VERY quickly, but I was very early (July/Aug, I think). It is likely that if you submitted later, it may take longer...I also got my acceptance very quickly...and it's not like I have great scores (cum 3.3, sci 3.8 MCAT 28R).
Scpod: I suspect that the people I've heard grumbling ARE people who are unhappy with the "set in stone" rules...I'm not one of them...I like dressing up, it makes me feel important 🙂
At the same time, it's the ONLY negative thing I've heard about the place, so I felt compelled to share...there is always going to be population that is unhappy with their school for one reason or another.
Scpod: I suspect that the people I've heard grumbling ARE people who are unhappy with the "set in stone" rules...I'm not one of them...I like dressing up, it makes me feel important 🙂
At the same time, it's the ONLY negative thing I've heard about the place, so I felt compelled to share...there is always going to be population that is unhappy with their school for one reason or another.
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LauraDO have you taken your MCAT yet? I thought you said January.
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no you are right, I'm freaking out right now. I need to calm down. That's what too much physics will do to a person
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A lot of where you want to look for a house here really depends on your price range - feel free to pm me, though you might not get a response 'til finals are over.
My wife and I bought a great little home in West Bradenton in a very solid neighborhood a stone's throw from an elementary school - Bayshore. I don't have kids, so I have no idea if that's good school or not.
We looked at Lakewood Ranch, but were able to find our current home with all the same amenities - granite counters, tile, stainless appliances, neighborhood pool, etc. for about half the price by living in Bradenton as opposed to Lakewood Ranch. We also pay $10 a year for our pool access, as opposed to several communities in Lakewood Ranch that charged $100/month!
If you cross the line into Sarasota (University Avenue), you will also notice a jump in cost, though it does vary somewhat by neighborhood.
The other thing to be aware of is that property taxes and homeowner's insurance (ie for hurricanes) is likely to be pretty eye-popping. At least it was for me, even moving from an over-priced market like Seattle.
I think it's mandatory if you live here for a couple years to get a real estate license, so you'll have no trouble finding an agent - if you need a referral let me know.
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I've heard the property taxes there are crazy...I also looked up the Hurricane data for Bradenton, and was surprised to find that it's about the same as Virginia Beach...must be in some kind of sweet spot.
I've also heard that it's very hard to SELL a house down there right now. We're planning on renting something...at least for a little while, until we get settled and get a feel for the area...There are a ton of good rentals, for a good price, from what I can see.
I've also heard that it's very hard to SELL a house down there right now. We're planning on renting something...at least for a little while, until we get settled and get a feel for the area...There are a ton of good rentals, for a good price, from what I can see.
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Yea, I'd probably recommend renting for a little while so you can get to know the area and then if interested look into buying if the market is still like it is now. If we didn't hang on to the townhouse we own back home then we would've looked into buying here, but we decided to hang on to it, rent it out, and wait for the market to come back around.
There's a lot going on currently with property taxes in Florida. It was real bad where we used to live and I know the legislature was working on a bunch of ideas/plans but once school started I really haven't followed it, so not sure the status of the proposed "relief" coming down the pipe.
We lucked out this hurricane season. Unless you live right on the coast or on the river (or other flood zone) it's really only the wind you have to worry about, and I'm not sure of the last time they had significant winds here. I was in Orlando during Charley (had about ~100mph winds) and that ended up coming ashore further south than expected and skirted Bradenton, otherwise they would have gotten hit fairly hard. So unless you're looking for a place right on the beach or on the river here where you'll also need flood insurance, it shouldn't be much different than most places in Florida.
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I think that we all should hang out before orientation/classes start in July. Personally, I will be moving down to the Bradenton area around July 18th or so, just so I can get settled in and get accustomed to the area. If anyone would like to join me one evening, play some Wii, watch TV, or just go for a drink, let me know!
Yeah I'm fairly sure I will be moving there early July too. I want to be completely moved in and settled before the fun of anatomy begins 😱 Also it will be like having a mini vacation before school starts. I'd be up for hanging out. I'll be married then so my husband will be around as well. Is your gf/fiance going to be moving with you?
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Does anyone know where the nearest Ross or TJ Maxx is..?
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So, I found out on Monday that I have an interview this Friday, but when I talked to Heather she said I only had one LOR in from a science professor, and I've contacted the other professor that was supposed to write one a looooong time ago and he's not responding.
Did anyone interview without having all of their LOR's in at the interview? Do you think it will cause any problems?
Do you think it would be better to send them a LOR from another science professor that was meant for a masters program not LECOM? At least they'd have another LOR....haha.
What to do, what to do....... 🙁
Did anyone interview without having all of their LOR's in at the interview? Do you think it will cause any problems?
Do you think it would be better to send them a LOR from another science professor that was meant for a masters program not LECOM? At least they'd have another LOR....haha.
What to do, what to do....... 🙁
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I am totally down with some Wii action...Count me in.
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Malisa.. no, she won't be down. Let me explain our plans (not that you probably care, but..). We are getting engaged soon and both graduating in the spring. She is going to stay with her parents or one of her sisters and work for a year to save up money (she's a nurse). We are going to get married in the summer of 2009 (so you'll probably be invited ^.^), and then she'll move down. You actually probably won't meet her for a while, especially when we're all bogged down with anatomy, embro, etc. Oh well. We can all just play some Wii and have some drinks to celebrate the lack of fun we will all be having. Oh, and spouses/significant others are DEFINITELY welcome. And this is not limited to the 2012 class. Anyone (from LECOM-B) is allowed to come, too!
I am sooo freaking excited to just graduate already and get to medical school. I know I shouldn't rush it, but man.. how freaking pumped are you every day when you wake up and say to yourself "Man.. I'm gonna be a doctor!" It's like all of your dreams are finally coming true. I am sure it'll be a grind, but this is gonna be worth it.
^.^ Siiick!
I am sooo freaking excited to just graduate already and get to medical school. I know I shouldn't rush it, but man.. how freaking pumped are you every day when you wake up and say to yourself "Man.. I'm gonna be a doctor!" It's like all of your dreams are finally coming true. I am sure it'll be a grind, but this is gonna be worth it.
^.^ Siiick!
Haha I don't mind hearing about your plans. I'm kinda bored at the moment because I'm attempting to do myelin basic protein staining but I'm lacking a reagent that will hopefully be delivered any minute now (haha bet you didnt want to know that) So it kinda sucks that you will be away from your fiance for a year. I wouldn't make it.
Anyways I'm really excited about everything too. I'm actually really looking forward to moving and starting a new life. So I'd be up for some Wii action. I'm so lame but I've been out of school since May but I still haven't taken the time to play my Wii 🙁 I've only played a little bit. I bought Mario Galaxy last week and haven't played it at all. I really need to get in some Wii time before I no longer have that luxury.
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YES!! I got Mario Galaxy just before Thanksgiving break but I haven't played it too much. I have already gotten all 120 stars and am working on beating it a second time before finals in a couple of weeks (there's a reason.. you'll see why). I am just wasting time trying not to start my Health Policy presentation where I discuss the disparities between MDs and DOs in the public eye. I think I may have a bit to talk about ^.^
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I always get a chuckle out of someone complaining about the dress code. For some folks, rotations, residency & practice are going to be a real bitch. Welcome to the real world and may your major complaint in life always be the dress code.
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i went to Vanderbilt for undergrad where there basically is an unofficial dress code (depending on the crowd you 'hang with 🙂) Frankly I liked it, it was good for transition to the real professional working world, it made you feel confident and good about yourself, it made you take pride in your apperance and the impression it made on others
As much as some might not want to accept it, our physical apperance is what makes the biggest first impression everywhere we go, on colleagues, patients, ect. Having a dress code is part of your 'political' and 'social' med school education
suck it up and shine your shoes
As much as some might not want to accept it, our physical apperance is what makes the biggest first impression everywhere we go, on colleagues, patients, ect. Having a dress code is part of your 'political' and 'social' med school education
suck it up and shine your shoes
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I agree w/ the response scpod posted above, but I also have to add that I can see why some people have issues with the administration. Anyone who comes here should realize that the "5 rules" are not suggestions, they are rules, and they are enforced strictly and indiscriminately.
For example, although we don't have many lectures, attendance is required at those which we do. I guess some people started skipping, which the administration responded to by requiring students to sign in during class. Apparently, some students started to have their friends sign in for them, forcing the administration to up the anty again, and now we have assigned seats in the lecture hall, and an administrator occasionally goes around and looks for empty seats.
During lecture, many people were IM'ing each other. It was rude and disrespectful, especially when you would hear that classic "IM sent" tone ring out from some idiot who forgot to silence his laptop. IM is now blocked on campus, as is streaming video, ie youtube.
Last year, if a student forgot their ID, they could sign in at security and enter the building. Apparently students were abusing this somehow, and now students must have their ID to enter the building. If they lose it or forget it, they must pay a $25 replacement fee to enter the building.
I'm not sharing these examples to paint the school in a negative light; I'm quite happy and have never regretted coming here. I absolutely love what they have done with PBL here and I've had a lot of support from faculty. If you're respectful and work hard, you will be encouraged and treated with respect. However, the school expects students to conduct themselves in a professional, mature manner and unfortunately it only takes a few students who want to push the rules to cause consequences for the whole class.
In the 18 months I've been here I've missed one class due to illness, I keep my ID in my car, and I'm too old for "IM" so none of these "punishments" really affect me, but they don't exactly give me a warm fuzzy feeling either. Even if you always follow the rules, nobody enjoys being constantly reminded of them. Hopefully this will shed a little light on the rumblings of discontent you may occasionally hear on SDN or during your interview...
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You know, it's funny because we're dealing with this exact same thing at the hospital I work at. They blocked almost every internet site imaginable because the ED was going online too much...
In other words, you'll have to deal with it in the real world too.
Btw, if they use Websense to block (like most people do), you can get around it easily using Remote Desktop to access your completely unblocked machine at home. Not that I would go through the trouble just to AIM someone...that's what cel phones are for 🙂
I actually don't think these rules are unfair...maybe the no water bottles rule, but being hard core on security access is good in the age we live in. The dress code makes us all professional-like.
I assume that since the school is PBL, any lectures they DO have, must be deemed rather important (whether the students think they are or not).
I'm actually impressed by some of the mini lectures offered at LECOM-B, and wish other med schoools would step up.
In other words, you'll have to deal with it in the real world too.
Btw, if they use Websense to block (like most people do), you can get around it easily using Remote Desktop to access your completely unblocked machine at home. Not that I would go through the trouble just to AIM someone...that's what cel phones are for 🙂
I actually don't think these rules are unfair...maybe the no water bottles rule, but being hard core on security access is good in the age we live in. The dress code makes us all professional-like.
I assume that since the school is PBL, any lectures they DO have, must be deemed rather important (whether the students think they are or not).
I'm actually impressed by some of the mini lectures offered at LECOM-B, and wish other med schoools would step up.
I totally need to learn of the remote desktop thing you speak of!!! I work in a hospital but not doing hospital things (I do research on rats not people hehe) And sometimes checking facebook or perezhilton would be fun to do while on my lunchbreak or between analyzing tons of data.
But yeah I don't see the big deal about it being blocked at school because it doesn't sound like you are at school for that long anyways.
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You need to have Windows Professional (XP...not sure about Vista) on the computer you want to connect to. The comp doing the connecting just needs any old Windows...it's built in.
It's under Accessories>Communications>Remote Desktop...there's some online tutorials about how to set it up...took me some playing around with, but once it's going...it's pretty cool.
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God I love this school already😍
