We started the last week of July...I expect 2013 will do the same...
Thanks, my summer session ends on 7/10. So, I think I will still be ok.
We started the last week of July...I expect 2013 will do the same...
haha awesome.....just curious, which of those do you pref?
I got my letter from them today from my Jan 12 interview, it was good news!!!
hey,
anyone out there know anything about how hpsp works coming from ROTC?
I got my letter from them today from my Jan 12 interview, it was good news!!!
Is it a snail mail?
LECOM B, definitely.
I really like the PBL program. The students that I met at NOVA readily admitted that they hated going to lecture, that they just studied in the back of the auditorium without listening to the prof and that, if they could, they would get a friend to swipe their pass so they didn't have to go (attendance is mandatory, regulated by swiping as you enter the class). PBL seems like a much more interesting way to learn and I feel like I will retain what I've learned more easily. Medical school is going to be intense and hard no matter where I go, but PBL seems more fun.
LECOM B is cheaper (and Bradenton is cheaper to live in.) I think I'll be happier and more relaxed in Bradenton vs. Ft. Lauderdale.
I have family in Tampa and St. Pete.
Good luck and I hope to see you at LECOM next year. It'd be nice to have some company from NC.
Here's a question for the current Bradenton students:
I've seen it mentioned that you are responsible for setting up your clinical rotations (in the 3rd and 4th year). What does this entail? That is, do you have to call the hospital/clinic yourself and say "hi, I'd like to do a rotation with you?" Or does the school facilitate this? If not, what exactly does your tuition buy you during the 3rd and 4th years?
Thanks so much!
I'll let some of the 2nd years answer this better, but I'll tell you what little I know...
There is some paperwork involved. Most of the common rotation sites, I think, are fairly easy to set up through the school. There's sort of a "lottery" system. People submit a list of the places they want to go (or, what month they want a certain rotation...you pick which is more important to you, location or time) and the school matches you into spots...
If you want to go somewhere weird, then you are responsible for contacting the hospital and setting up the rotation, usually through their office of medical education or something like that.
We have an Office of Clinical Education and their job is to take care of 3rd and 4th years.
Your 3rd and 4th year tuition money at pretty much every DO school and many MD schools mostly goes to the school. In any situation, you're at a hospital learning from the attendings, not sitting in class listening to a paid lecturer. Some schools give the hospitals kickbacks for taking students, but LECOM-B does not.
The main thing to keep in mind is this:
Rotations at DO schools are a mixed bag.
Advantages include: choice of what hospitals you rotate at & more 1 on 1 experience (i.e. you get to do more, esp on rotations like surgery)...the hierarchy of Attending-->Resident-->Intern-->4th Year-->3rd year doesn't exist. Instead, it's just Attending-->You.
Disadvantages: You might have to do a little more leg work setting up or figuring out where you want to go. Also, many (but not all) of the hospitals are smaller, so you may not see as much "crazy stuff".
Also, remember that your LECOM-B tuition will still be cheaper than pretty much everyone else's. Why? Because we rock.
Anyone going to be interviewing February, "Friday the 13th?" I will and it might be nice to know someone...
The letters for people who interviewed from Jan 12th & before are dated Jan 13th and yes, are snail mail.
I imagine some of them got held up a bit due to the holiday.
Thanks digitlnoize for the info on the 3rd/4th years. Having volunteered in a teaching hospital I can see how the traditional hierarchy doesn't give the MSIII and IV much hands on time. I'm liking this more every day. Bradenton does rock!
I've already accepted to Bradenton for 2013. I'm just making sure, only get to go to med school once.
No prob. I'm sure one of the 2nd years will chime in with some more detailed info for you.
You can also go to my.lecom.edu and download the Clinical Handbook. That might have more details too...
i officially found out i'm accepted yesterday so as long as i can come up with $1500 by the 28th i'll be good.
I'll let some of the 2nd years answer this better, but I'll tell you what little I know...
There is some paperwork involved. Most of the common rotation sites, I think, are fairly easy to set up through the school. There's sort of a "lottery" system. People submit a list of the places they want to go (or, what month they want a certain rotation...you pick which is more important to you, location or time) and the school matches you into spots...
If you want to go somewhere weird, then you are responsible for contacting the hospital and setting up the rotation, usually through their office of medical education or something like that.
We have an Office of Clinical Education and their job is to take care of 3rd and 4th years.
Your 3rd and 4th year tuition money at pretty much every DO school and many MD schools mostly goes to the school. In any situation, you're at a hospital learning from the attendings, not sitting in class listening to a paid lecturer. Some schools give the hospitals kickbacks for taking students, but LECOM-B does not.
The main thing to keep in mind is this:
Rotations at DO schools are a mixed bag.
Advantages include: choice of what hospitals you rotate at & more 1 on 1 experience (i.e. you get to do more, esp on rotations like surgery)...the hierarchy of Attending-->Resident-->Intern-->4th Year-->3rd year doesn't exist. Instead, it's just Attending-->You.
Disadvantages: You might have to do a little more leg work setting up or figuring out where you want to go. Also, many (but not all) of the hospitals are smaller, so you may not see as much "crazy stuff".
Also, remember that your LECOM-B tuition will still be cheaper than pretty much everyone else's. Why? Because we rock.
I'm definitely jumping the gun here....but I need to plan ahead in the event I get good news from LECOM-B.
Is the acceptance deposit payable by credit card? I do not have $1,500 in my bank account and I only get paid once a month (the joys of working for an academic institution!) and after undergrad loan payments and rent/utilities....my cash stores are definitely below $1,500
Think you pretty much hit on the good stuff above.
Things are always changing so in the next few years the exact procedure and locations available will probably be a little different, but in general..... the class gets split up into groups of around 10-12 people each and each group has their own schedule as far as which rotation they do each month. In other words your group may start with 2 IMs in a row, another group may have their vacation for that first rotation slot, etc.... At the end of your first year you fill out form where you choose if you'd rather have a specific rotation schedule (Ex: you REALLY want to have a specific vacation month) OR if you'd rather have a certain general location. So you kind of decide then what your preference would be (location vs. schedule) and then you're put into groups.
Once you're in your groups that's where you really work out who is going where. For "core/required" rotations (peds, IM, surg, etc...) they have to be with a hospital/clinic/physician that's already on the affiliated list which you'll get. Now, it's possible to do a core rotation at a site that's not on that list but there are a couple criteria that have to be met, proper paperwork filled out and all that. I think the hardest criteria is something like the that location has to agree to take a certain number of students so that could be an issue if you're going back to some small town and will be the only student that's going to be rotating there in the near future. But it's possible, there are several students who are going back to where they are from and were able to setup pretty much all their rotations there.
Other rotations like Family Practice, and elective/selectives are treated more as pure electives and you can pretty much do them where ever you want. If you have a doc back home you want to rotate with on a FP or elective rotation you basically call them up, see if they'll take you for that month, and then there's just a little paper work the school has to get from them (mostly so they can check their credentials). So those are pretty open. Like I said, core rotations can be done at places not on the "list" but with a couple more limitations.
I'm from Florida and have family in Tampa area so I wanted to stay in the St Pete area and didn't have any problems getting all mine in the area. I have a couple back down in Bradenton area but at most it'll be a 40-50min drive from where ever I'm living.
A big change this year is that some of northern locations that were affiliated with Erie weren't as open to us down here because of Erie having preference and first shot at those spots. Didn't really bother me as I didn't want to go up north, but there were some northern students who came down looking forward to being able to go back up and make use of some of those locations only to find them filled. So if that may apply to you then it's something you may want to ask about when you interview. Seems like it's moving more towards we have preference on the spots down here and Erie the northern ones.
All in all I got spots I am happy with and the process didn't kill me. Initially a lot of people were frustrated because there wasn't really any instruction as far as how to go about this..... so there were a lot of questions, a lot of asking the group leaders for clarification, etc.... but it worked out in the end. I'm sure comments will be made from us as to how to improve it for future classes. Part of the reason is this year they started using that online portal system and were in the middle of moving rotation scheduling over to that and dealing with bugs of pretty much testing it out for the first time by having us use it. Previously it was strictly done by paper with choices turned into the clinical office but eventually all the options will be online and it'll be similar to how most of us registered for classes online during undergrad.
Nlax:
How desirable are the Cleveland locations. I am one of those students who will start next year in Bradenton, but I am from Cleveland and would like to do my rotations there. There are a couple of Cleveland hospitals on the list you mentioned and I was just wondering is these were highly sought after
I am in! It is great to hear the news!!
but thats kinda what i am getting at, we have had our own uniquely tough paths, including the application process, to get into med school.
and we have an unbelievably tough path ahead.
its just surreal to have this time right now to just chill out (Thank God!) I am going nuts just figuring out what to do with myself.
Well....I'm about to head to the airport and be on my way to Bradenton!
To any posters or lurkers who are interviewing tomorrow...I wish you all the best of luck and may we all do well tomorrow
I am in! It is great to hear the news!!
Well....I'm about to head to the airport and be on my way to Bradenton!
To any posters or lurkers who are interviewing tomorrow...I wish you all the best of luck and may we all do well tomorrow
a majority of my class wanted to return up north, i am quite certain ohio was one of the areas. the problem is lecom-erie has 1st dibs on those locations so it narrows down the choices. you may not get all your core near you but you should be able to get some. also take note, once the hospital is an affliate, you're set. just find a doc that's willing to take you and that will take some effort on your end. the numbers game is only what is reported from that hospital to our school. it truly is about "who you know"Nlax:
How desirable are the Cleveland locations. I am one of those students who will start next year in Bradenton, but I am from Cleveland and would like to do my rotations there. There are a couple of Cleveland hospitals on the list you mentioned and I was just wondering is these were highly sought after
I just got accepted into LECOM - B but i still have interviews at other schools. I only have till the 4th to send my check in. I don't know what to do. I'm still waiting to hear from my first choice. Does sending in my 1500 $ check mean i have to go to the school? or can i always choose not to go if i hear from another school? How does this work? I don't want to NOT send the check in case i don't get into my first choice....
so confused
I was lucky enough to be accepted to LECOM-B, but after much deliberation/soul searching, I decided that the school is not for me and I forfeited my spot. So hopefully it will go to an SDNer who's on the waitlist and wants it more than I do! Good luck y'all.
1) PBL. I absolutely loved watching PBL in action and felt really engaged in the material, but I have reservations about whether or not its for me. I know most med students i've talked to from other schools end up not going to lectures and end up learning on their own like PBL. But I feel like I might be someone who prefers structured learning.
2) 3rd & 4th year. I've read (here and elsewhere) about it being very messy to set up rotations (everything about LECOM-B is self-directed). But can any students address how 3rd and 4th years actually work and if there are any changes they are making anytime soon? What are the pros and cons to it?
Any comments or advice to help me would be greatly appreciated!!
I've read (here and elsewhere) about it being very messy to set up rotations (everything about LECOM-B is self-directed). But can any students address how 3rd and 4th years actually work and if there are any changes they are making anytime soon? What are the pros and cons to it?
Any comments or advice to help me would be greatly appreciated!!
I was also lucky enough to be accepted to at LECOM-B. I have about two weeks to decide whether or not to put my deposit down. (I've been accepted to two other programs)
Two main things on my mind:
1) PBL. I absolutely loved watching PBL in action and felt really engaged in the material, but I have reservations about whether or not its for me. I know most med students i've talked to from other schools end up not going to lectures and end up learning on their own like PBL. But I feel like I might be someone who prefers structured learning.
2) 3rd & 4th year. I've read (here and elsewhere) about it being very messy to set up rotations (everything about LECOM-B seems self-directed). But can any students address how 3rd and 4th years actually work and if there are any changes they are making anytime soon? What are the pros and cons to it?
Any comments or advice to help me would be greatly appreciated!!
Can I ask what changed your mind about LECOM-B?
Well, ultimately it came down to the way PBL is done at LECOM-B. Reading textbooks for hours on end is not my thing. The lack of direction-as in explicit instructions as to what to know and when-would also stress me out. I imagine some people really thrive in that environment, but because I had so many doubts I figured that LECOM-B wasn't for me.
(disclaimer: I know that textbooks come with the territory of medical school, but every school relies on them to a different extent, and I prefer syllabli/note sets to learn from in lieu of solely reading textbooks)
Other deciding factors for me: Bradenton (not for me) and I think I prefer schools with a few more physical resources (larger building, more study space, a gym, 24 hour buildings/rooms, etc) that come from being associated with a full university.
For the right people, LECOM-B is a great place. I'm not hating on the school. I'm just saying that given my personal preferences, I'm pretty positive I wouldn't be happy there. Hence, I hope my spot goes to somebody who really wants it.