LECOM Bradenton MMS Program 2019-2020

[Chinita]

So we have a CMB test coming up and I am not sure if I should focus on the book readings or the powerpoints or both equally, anyone have any input?

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[TarpolianDynamite]

So we have a CMB test coming up and I am not sure if I should focus on the book readings or the powerpoints or both equally, anyone have any input?

I only used powerpoints and made A's on all but one of the tests. With one day left I would spend your time doing powerpoints, but the CMB book is an easy read (compared to the other books lol) if you get stuck on a topic use the book like an encyclopedia to clarify. DO NOT NEGLECT the parts that Dr. G types into the notes sections on the powerpoints lots of questions get pulled from there. Good Luck!

 

[Chinita]

I only used powerpoints and made A's on all but one of the tests. With one day left I would spend your time doing powerpoints, but the CMB book is an easy read (compared to the other books lol) if you get stuck on a topic use the book like an encyclopedia to clarify. DO NOT NEGLECT the parts that Dr. G types into the notes sections on the powerpoints lots of questions get pulled from there. Good Luck!

Okay thanks!! And our tests are on mondays so we actually have all weekend to study!

 

[Med1238]

Sorry for the delayed response, summertime, Florida, margaritas, and stuff. I was looking at the responses a few of my classmates posted on the facebook page and they all gave some pretty solid advice. I'm going to give my take on what I think you need to do overall. I am assuming some classes are changing but I will hit on the big ones that won't change.

A lot of the things that you asked for are subjective and dependant on you as a student so I am going to give some background about me:
I had a sub 3.0 cGPA and around a 3.0 sGPA. I took the MCAT twice, once for a 492 (day after my 21st was a horrible experience 0/10) and the second time for a 500. I worked full time to support my family and myself through undergrad. Graduated in December 2016 and worked as an MA for a year where I met a doc that really helped me get into the MMS program. Originally I was rejected but a few emails and phone calls later I ended up getting in. I came into the program thinking that I didn't deserve to be there and I was ready to work to prove to everyone that I did belong and to myself that I am more than what my undergrad GPA said I was. I fought for my grades in every class and put a lot of time into making sure I studied efficiently and not just for long hours. I finished with a 3.58 in the entire program.

My biggest and most important point I want to make is that there are 2 things that will determine how you do in this program:
1) Your ability to develop good study habits fast. Summer is hard but is the most rewarding the classes are manageable and you can dedicate copious hours to each course without falling behind in one or the other. Set yourself up here and continue to use the habits you form in the fall.
2) Your attitude. I might sound mean here and I am sorry if I piss anyone off but the fact of the matter is, none of you got into medical/dental school and you are here to prove that you deserve the spot. You cannot see this program as a quick ten months of busy work with a nice way into school, you MUST approach it like you have to prove to everyone that you can thrive and make this environment a cake walk. The people that didn't get in are the people who talked about how they could get into another school so easily and would say things like "I didn't study that part but I doubt we even have to worry about it. Do you really think they will turn us away after all this that we have had to do?" (yes, yes they will).

I'm going to break things up by semester now. Background knowledge in any of the classes is nice but not necessary. All information provided to you will be sufficient for the class and probably recommended that you only use class information.

Summer: Study habits: 3-5 hours of review on weekdays. Re-reading and typing outlines 7am-1pm on weekends.

CMB: Dr. G is super cool. I loved his lecture style and the way that he breaks down his lectures. Powerpoints are all you will need. Study for mechanisms and understanding the big picture. He likes to ask questions that will challenge how well you know the material and the purpose and function of the cell performs.
Biochem 1: Powerpoints, used the book to clarify, and flashcards. Dr. B is super nice and very approachable. His questions are straight from his powerpoints and review slides that he posts. Questions are standard memory recall with a little bit of applied reasoning.
PHPM: Group essays due every week and take home tests. If you struggle here idk what to tell you.

Fall: The class load here increases and you will find it hard to dedicate the same amount of studying every day. My S/O works full time so I tried to finish studying before they got home so I could relax with them. This is why for me, being efficient when studying helped me make the most of my shortened time spent studying.

Pharm: This was my worst class. Straight memory recall and flashcards. I tried to spend too much time looking at signs and symptoms and not enough of understanding the class of drug and why this one is important in that class. The rotating professors kinda sucks but they are all super nice and you can always email them.
Phys: This is a heavy class. Rotating professors with lots of different teaching and question styles. If you are medical, these are the people that will interview you for medical school. Don't be a jerk, show up to class, and put a face to a name politely. Most of the teachers are pretty cool with some of them having a very dry sense of humor. Study the powerpoints and clarify with the book.
Biochem 2: Dr. Brown is Dr. G's wife and she is the nicest person you will ever meet. She seems a little lost when lecturing but all of her power points are correct. I hate to say I never paid attention in lecture but I would study her lecture slides and I did well on the tests. Her material is very important and will be the subject of many PBL cases. Get used to reading the biochem book.
PBL 1: Every group has a different facilitator but we all take the same tests and learn the same cases. Tests were usually on Fridays if I remember correctly. I would spend M-W reading on my own and coming up with my own notes and then meeting up with 2-3 friends to quickly work through the cases on Wednesday night. Different facilitators will touch on different important points so it helps to see your friends perspectives. Then I would review on my own all day Thursday.
Histology: Can be hard. I enjoyed it though. Spend some extra time on weekends looking at the website and the slides that they recommend. Email your professors with questions they always helped me out. Review powerpoints are a GOD SEND.

Interview: Very lax, just be happy and pleasant. The group interview is set up like PBL. I recommend having a different opinion than your peers once or twice. They want to see if you get offended or defensive when challenged or someone thinks you're wrong.

Spring: Literally flew by. My worst semester but I was already accepted so I think I got pretty comfortable.

Micro: Tables and charts probably would work best. I tried to type out my own lectures on the material and that got to be too much and I had to stop and just review and flash card myself. Made a B by the skin on my teeth.
PBL 2: Now the class is 4 credits and they expect you to pick up the pace. Totally manageable same advice from PBL 1 applies here. Made an A.
Immunology: I relied on the book for this class. Powerpoints were nice but the book saved my life. The class is fast with a couple of quizzes and 2 exams everything is weighted really heavy. Made a B here.
Genetics: Dr. G teaches this class. Whatever you did for CMB will work here. Made an A in this class.
Anatomy: No more physiology just straight structure and function. Flashcards and memorization work here. Skip the book, for the most part, it will help sometimes but I barely used it. Maybe that's why I made a B?

All in all the program is on you to find the time to dedicate the appropriate amount of studying in your preferred style. I can't recommend one way to study over another but I can tell you that the people that made it are the ones that didn't stop when they thought they were done. Most of my time was spent studying they next test ahead. After summer I found it hard to dedicate more time to any class that wasn't being tested on that week. If you can manage to study multiple subjects every week you will do great.

Hope this helps!

How would you describe the differences between dr beringers and dr browns exams?

 

[TarpolianDynamite]

How would you describe the differences between dr beringers and dr browns exams?

Rely on the book more and don't overthink her questions. The questions were pretty straight forward. I made it out with an 89.5 in her class after making a 94 in Biochem 1. I think I relied on the power point too much for the first exam. Her powerpoints highlight where she will pull her questions from in the book. Any figure she puts in her powerpoint points you in the right direction to read up on.

 

[TarpolianDynamite]

Hey guys! Did you have your final for CMB yet? How'd it go?

 

[FutureDr123]

Hey guys! Did you have your final for CMB yet? How'd it go?

Our Final for CMB is on Monday , I'm personally more worried about Biochem on Friday due to the change in professor. I've taken your advice to heart so lets hope everything goes well!

 

[Chinita]

Hey guys! Did you have your final for CMB yet? How'd it go?

Any advice?

 

[TarpolianDynamite]

Any advice?

Study. You know how well you have to know everything at this point.

 

[MedDoc305]

Study. You know how well you have to know everything at this point.

We started fall yesterday, and I was wondering if you had any specific advice on each of the physiology professors focus on the exams? I was thinking about just reading the chapters and memorizing the powerpoints to cover all bases, but if anything comes to mind it would be of great help.

Exam 1: Critz with Nolan
Exam 2: Lorenzo
Exam 3/4: Hussein
Exam 5: Critz and Nolan

Thank you in advance.

 

[TarpolianDynamite]

We started fall yesterday, and I was wondering if you had any specific advice on each of the physiology professors focus on the exams? I was thinking about just reading the chapters and memorizing the powerpoints to cover all bases, but if anything comes to mind it would be of great help.

Exam 1: Critz with Nolan
Exam 2: Lorenzo
Exam 3/4: Hussein
Exam 5: Critz and Nolan

Thank you in advance.

Great idea, in theory, you will burn yourself out though if you are a normal human. PBL, Biochem 2 (with Brown, love her but I have never been more confused by a lecture in my life), and Pharm will take up a lot of your reading time if you're like me. You will find out that the powerpoints for physio are very dense and the book isn't much better. Physio and Pharm were my two worst classes. Still made B's but it's tough to trim it down on what I could have done better. For Dr. Hussein, I would rely only on powerpoints and he is awesome. Super funny and entertaining when he lectures. Dr. Lorenzo is good too but his exam was over cardiac physiology which is just tough in general. PowerPoints are your main source of information. Capitalize on exams 3 and 4 those should be the most straight forward. Get right with whatever deity you believe in for the 5th exam because I literally thought I failed out of the program with that exam. I needed a 35% to keep my B and I emailed Dr. G asking him what would happen if I failed because of that one test lol it all worked out in the end but Dear God was that test rough. It's over neurophysiology and it is DENSE.

 

[FutureDr123]

Great idea, in theory, you will burn yourself out though if you are a normal human. PBL, Biochem 2 (with Brown, love her but I have never been more confused by a lecture in my life), and Pharm will take up a lot of your reading time if you're like me. You will find out that the powerpoints for physio are very dense and the book isn't much better. Physio and Pharm were my two worst classes. Still made B's but it's tough to trim it down on what I could have done better. For Dr. Hussein, I would rely only on powerpoints and he is awesome. Super funny and entertaining when he lectures. Dr. Lorenzo is good too but his exam was over cardiac physiology which is just tough in general. PowerPoints are your main source of information. Capitalize on exams 3 and 4 those should be the most straight forward. Get right with whatever deity you believe in for the 5th exam because I literally thought I failed out of the program with that exam. I needed a 35% to keep my B and I emailed Dr. G asking him what would happen if I failed because of that one test lol it all worked out in the end but Dear God was that test rough. It's over neurophysiology and it is DENSE.

Thank you for the reply! Its only been 2 days and we have about 8 chapters worth of material between all classes and I'm starting to feel the pressure Not necessarily a bad thing because I tend to procrastinate.

 

[MedDoc305]

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Program is taught to FAIL (like in casino, some will win but most will LOSE) After tuition is paid, the REAL face of LECOM shows Lectures are READ from powerpoints instead of being taught People who...

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The only reason I am responding is so that future applicants know what to expect and are persuaded to not take the chance to obtain a pathway into medical/dental school because of your post. I am going to be as unbiased as possible as a current MMS student. That "website by former students" is literally just the one post you made and has no more validity compared to the posts here on SDN.

• Program is taught to FAIL (like in casino, some will win but most will LOSE).

I don't understand how a program is taught to fail. The first thing we are told is that we are not competing with each other and if everyone were to get the required grades we would all be accepted into the medical/dental school, pending any disasters. We started out with 96 students, half wishing to pursue dental and the other half medical. Starting the second semester we are currently around 80. It is known and expected that people drop out during or after the first semester, either due to getting into their graduate programs or simply because they failed. This is not a surprise. We were told that this program is not easy and that the medical school curriculum is much harder. If you aren't able to succeed here you definitely will not succeed in medical school. The pre-dental students were also told that this program was geared towards the more medical aspect and that the medical sciences they would learn here would be more in-depth than in their program. If you look at any of the previous years forums for the program, there is ALWAYS a drop in student roster, just like every other masters programs in the United States. At least it's not like Nova’s master where if you get two C’s you're dropped from the program, or like most other SMP’s where you’re competing against each other.

• After tuition is paid, the REAL face of LECOM shows

We have been constantly reminded to go to office hours or student affairs if we are struggling in class. Tuition is paid the first week of class so I don’t know what he/she means by this.

• Lectures are READ from powerpoints instead of being taught

I do not know what undergrad this person went to but part at least in my experience, part of a professor's lecture is reading stuff off the powerpoint and then adding information or explaining it, which is exactly what they do. If you are expecting to be spoon-fed all the information for a test within the few hours of lecture you have another thing coming. Medical school students do not even attend lectures if they do not have to because of how inefficient it is. LECOM, like many other medical schools, uses PBL in which there are bare minimum lectures anyways.

• People who succeed are learning from Youtube and osmosis, NOT from LECOM instructors

As stated above, if you expect to learn everything in class you have unrealistic expectations of school in general, let alone graduate school. I’d be very surprised if you could show me a med student/dental student that does not look at youtube videos/khan academy/ak lectures/ect.

• LECOM lies about true numbers of people they accept from Masters/post-bac programs

Last years acceptance rate was exactly what was posted on this forum from last years students (and the powerpoint we were shown the first day of orientation). Only 1 student out of those who received over a 3.2 (and accepted the interview) did not get into their respective program. There were even students who were accepted with much lower GPA’s. LECOM specifically showed us a powerpoint of the average GPA of the students that were accepted last year (3.57) and tells us to aim for that, which is much higher than the lowest GPA they actually accept.

• Dr. Gnarra takes questions from BOOK TESTBANK which are way harder than what he is capable of teaching

I do not know where Dr. Gnarra takes his questions from, whether he creates them himself or finds them somewhere. However, unless you are taking pictures or video recording somehow during the test which is a violation of the student handbook, there is no way to know. He explains at the beginning of the program that his tests have a mixture of 1st, 2nd, and 3rd order questions. GOD FORBID a professor asks you to actually apply the information you are expected to know for the exam. Yes, when compared to the other class we take in summer, biochemistry, it seems much more difficult because the biochemistry test is pure regurgitation. But this is not what you should expect in your graduate program.

• Dr. Gnarra's powerpoints have ZERO logic, slides are randomly inserted out of order

Yes, his powerpoints are very disorganized. However, all the information you need is splattered on there. Go to class and pay attention so you can make sense of everything at home.

• Students have ZERO voice, administration intimidates students by threats of dropping from program for UNPROFESSIONAL behavior when indeed the criminal behavior of LECOM is being covered up

I believe this person is talking about when the dean of medical school came to talk to us about a post on facebook that was brought to his attention because it had language that vaguely posed a threat to faculty, staff and students. He recommended that we delete the page. The original post was from a student that was also failing a class and wanted to get students riled up against the faculty. If I had to guess this is probably the same person considering they are targeting Dr. Gnarra.

• If you want to succeed, trust the book, Dr. Gnarra will work real hard to FAIL you to make himself look like a tough professor

Dr. Gnarra does not care about being a tough professor, he just genuinely likes to test you on higher-order thinking. The book for CMB is very thin, it only covers about half of the information that will be on the test. You must listen to lectures and learn the powerpoints to succeed in his class. He actually gave a pretty significant curve for the final exam (which is not even cumulative).

• More information is coming soon

This program, just like any SMP or direct linkage program, is not for the faint of heart. This MMS program accepts students with very low GPA’s, even sub 3.0s. Some of these students just did not take undergrad seriously and will fly through the program, but others did try their hardest in undergrad and just could not get the grades they needed. As a future MMS student, you need to take a deep look inside and hope you are not the latter. If you are you then you need to figure out if you have what it takes to excel in graduate school. In all honesty, the summer semester is simply a 6 week accelerated course of biochemistry and CMB. I felt that my undergraduate biochemistry class was much harder than this. All in all, this program would be doing us a disservice if it did not adequately prepare us for medical school/dental school curriculum and testing.

 

[MedDoc305]

askaquestion101, why don't you mention here that you are lecom EMPLOYEE who is on a clock and is being paid to promote FAKE image of LECOM and NOT a student. Therefore your opinion here is invalid

lol If you look at my posts for the past year, you can clearly see I'm not an employee. But yeah, have fun with your opinion.

 

[TarpolianDynamite]

askaquestion101, why don't you mention here that you are lecom EMPLOYEE who is on a clock and is being paid to promote FAKE image of LECOM and NOT a student. Therefore your opinion here is invalid

Luke is that you?

 

[MedDoc305]

Luke is that you?

I honestly think it is lol

 

[Medschoolgal1]

askaquestion101, why don't you mention here that you are lecom EMPLOYEE who is on a clock and is being paid to promote FAKE image of LECOM and NOT a student. Therefore your opinion here is invalid

LOL to whoever this student is that is posting on here bashing LECOM's MMS program. As a fellow MMS student, my advice to you would be to spend more of your time taking responsibility for the fact that you did not make it in the program and figuring out what you will do now, than bashing a program that has already proven to get students accepted into their respective programs.

Not everyone is cut out for medical/dental school, but this program does ITS ABSOLUTE BEST to help students succeed. Personally, I failed an exam in the summer semester when I was not sure how to study for Dr. Gnarra's exams, and after speaking with Dr. Gnarra he showed me where I needed to shift my focus. After taking his advice I was able to do well on the following exams and earn a B in the class.

Blaming other people for not being able to get through it is just immature and will NEVER get you the success you desperately seek. If the ENTIRE CLASS had done horribly and failed out, THEN you can blame the school. But literally 80% of the class continued on and did well. Learn to take responsibility for your own mistakes and you will go much farther in life.

 

[Shuazaki]

The only reason I am responding is so that future applicants know what to expect and are persuaded to not take the chance to obtain a pathway into medical/dental school because of your post. I am going to be as unbiased as possible as a current MMS student. That "website by former students" is literally just the one post you made and has no more validity compared to the posts here on SDN.

• Program is taught to FAIL (like in casino, some will win but most will LOSE).

I don't understand how a program is taught to fail. The first thing we are told is that we are not competing with each other and if everyone were to get the required grades we would all be accepted into the medical/dental school, pending any disasters. We started out with 96 students, half wishing to pursue dental and the other half medical. Starting the second semester we are currently around 80. It is known and expected that people drop out during or after the first semester, either due to getting into their graduate programs or simply because they failed. This is not a surprise. We were told that this program is not easy and that the medical school curriculum is much harder. If you aren't able to succeed here you definitely will not succeed in medical school. The pre-dental students were also told that this program was geared towards the more medical aspect and that the medical sciences they would learn here would be more in-depth than in their program. If you look at any of the previous years forums for the program, there is ALWAYS a drop in student roster, just like every other masters programs in the United States. At least it's not like Nova’s master where if you get two C’s you're dropped from the program, or like most other SMP’s where you’re competing against each other.

• After tuition is paid, the REAL face of LECOM shows

We have been constantly reminded to go to office hours or student affairs if we are struggling in class. Tuition is paid the first week of class so I don’t know what he/she means by this.

• Lectures are READ from powerpoints instead of being taught

I do not know what undergrad this person went to but part at least in my experience, part of a professor's lecture is reading stuff off the powerpoint and then adding information or explaining it, which is exactly what they do. If you are expecting to be spoon-fed all the information for a test within the few hours of lecture you have another thing coming. Medical school students do not even attend lectures if they do not have to because of how inefficient it is. LECOM, like many other medical schools, uses PBL in which there are bare minimum lectures anyways.

• People who succeed are learning from Youtube and osmosis, NOT from LECOM instructors

As stated above, if you expect to learn everything in class you have unrealistic expectations of school in general, let alone graduate school. I’d be very surprised if you could show me a med student/dental student that does not look at youtube videos/khan academy/ak lectures/ect.

• LECOM lies about true numbers of people they accept from Masters/post-bac programs

Last years acceptance rate was exactly what was posted on this forum from last years students (and the powerpoint we were shown the first day of orientation). Only 1 student out of those who received over a 3.2 (and accepted the interview) did not get into their respective program. There were even students who were accepted with much lower GPA’s. LECOM specifically showed us a powerpoint of the average GPA of the students that were accepted last year (3.57) and tells us to aim for that, which is much higher than the lowest GPA they actually accept.

• Dr. Gnarra takes questions from BOOK TESTBANK which are way harder than what he is capable of teaching

I do not know where Dr. Gnarra takes his questions from, whether he creates them himself or finds them somewhere. However, unless you are taking pictures or video recording somehow during the test which is a violation of the student handbook, there is no way to know. He explains at the beginning of the program that his tests have a mixture of 1st, 2nd, and 3rd order questions. GOD FORBID a professor asks you to actually apply the information you are expected to know for the exam. Yes, when compared to the other class we take in summer, biochemistry, it seems much more difficult because the biochemistry test is pure regurgitation. But this is not what you should expect in your graduate program.

• Dr. Gnarra's powerpoints have ZERO logic, slides are randomly inserted out of order

Yes, his powerpoints are very disorganized. However, all the information you need is splattered on there. Go to class and pay attention so you can make sense of everything at home.

• Students have ZERO voice, administration intimidates students by threats of dropping from program for UNPROFESSIONAL behavior when indeed the criminal behavior of LECOM is being covered up

I believe this person is talking about when the dean of medical school came to talk to us about a post on facebook that was brought to his attention because it had language that vaguely posed a threat to faculty, staff and students. He recommended that we delete the page. The original post was from a student that was also failing a class and wanted to get students riled up against the faculty. If I had to guess this is probably the same person considering they are targeting Dr. Gnarra.

• If you want to succeed, trust the book, Dr. Gnarra will work real hard to FAIL you to make himself look like a tough professor

Dr. Gnarra does not care about being a tough professor, he just genuinely likes to test you on higher-order thinking. The book for CMB is very thin, it only covers about half of the information that will be on the test. You must listen to lectures and learn the powerpoints to succeed in his class. He actually gave a pretty significant curve for the final exam (which is not even cumulative).

• More information is coming soon

This program, just like any SMP or direct linkage program, is not for the faint of heart. This MMS program accepts students with very low GPA’s, even sub 3.0s. Some of these students just did not take undergrad seriously and will fly through the program, but others did try their hardest in undergrad and just could not get the grades they needed. As a future MMS student, you need to take a deep look inside and hope you are not the latter. If you are you then you need to figure out if you have what it takes to excel in graduate school. In all honesty, the summer semester is simply a 6 week accelerated course of biochemistry and CMB. I felt that my undergraduate biochemistry class was much harder than this. All in all, this program would be doing us a disservice if it did not adequately prepare us for medical school/dental school curriculum and testing.

Current M2 who went through the MMS. This is all absolutely true. The MMS is not easy, but it is easier than medical school. 2 years ago, when you just needed a 3.0 in the program, MMS students who got into the medical program had lower exam averages then people who got straight into the medical program for their M1 Fall semester. I don't know if that changed last year or this year, but I would imagine that's why they have their minimums set where they are. If they were any lower, than LECOM would be taking people from the MMS who are going to do worse, on average, than their normal applicant pool. For a personal anecdote, I had a 3.5 MMS gpa when I interviewed for the med program, and hover around the 50% rank in my class.

I absolutely agree MMS is best suited for people who have low stats for non-academic reasons. I had <3.0 and used AIS, but I knew that it was because I was very lazy in undergrad. If that's you, and you can turn it around, then the MMS is a great choice. If you have those same stats, and its the best you can do, the MMS is definitely a risky decision.

I know most of the MMS students are doing the MMS because they are not competitive to get into their programs directly, BUT the biggest mistake you can make is thinking that the MMS will get you in with lower standards than the normal route. It is a proving ground, not a backdoor.

 

[TarpolianDynamite]

We'll see who will get a last laugh as we send a letter to senator Rick Scott...
Perhaps we need a professional evaluation of this school. When LECOM loses it's license I would hire dean Kauffman as McDonalds supervisor and Dr. Gnarra as his assistant. It is not FAIR that LECOM charges nearly 25000 for program that does not deliver the results

Make sure to include the fact that you went to the post bacc in Erie, and didn't make it there. Then somehow still got allowed to be in a program that is almost a guarantee to get into the dental school as long as you qualify for an interview.

Stop telling yourself that the system failed you when it was your own damn fault for not fixing your own flaws in the first place. Stop fishing for sympathy, you had your shot(s) and you didn't capitalize on it(them). Move on and be better.

 

[FutureDr123]

We'll see who will get a last laugh as we send a letter to senator Rick Scott...
Perhaps we need a professional evaluation of this school. When LECOM loses it's license I would hire dean Kauffman as McDonalds supervisor and Dr. Gnarra as his assistant. It is not FAIR that LECOM charges nearly 25000 for program that does not deliver the results

There are programs where only 20% of the students are matriculating into graduate schools afterward and they continue to run. Good luck getting this one disbanded.

 

[KalisMedGirl]

For those in the program, what time does class start (Monday-Friday)?

 

[MedDoc305]

For those in the program, what time does class start (Monday-Friday)?

Summer classes were Mon from 9-12 (unless we had an exam, then it would be exam 9-11, class 12-3), Tuesdays/Thursdays 9-3, Wed 9-12, Fridays 9-12.

Fall = Our schedule is all over the place and changes in 2/3 weeks, especially with PMH/pathophysiology needing and histology starting. Classes have started 9:30 at the earliest

 

[Chinita]

Anyone have any advice for Dr. Arnold's exams?

 

[MedDoc305]

Anyone have any advice for Dr. Arnold's exams?

The advice I was given was to read the book and memorize the little information he has on the powerpoints. As you've noticed you don't get much from the lecture. Last years class did not have Dr. Arnold for biochemistry.

 

[Chinita]

The advice I was given was to read the book and memorize the little information he has on the powerpoints. As you've noticed you don't get much from the lecture. Last years class did not have Dr. Arnold for biochemistry.

yeah thats why im worried about the exams, and not gonna lie, those jeopardy questions were kinda hard.

 

[MedDoc305]

yeah thats why im worried about the exams, and not gonna lie, those jeopardy questions were kinda hard.
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I also heard his exams were difficult last year. But I feel its because people were not expecting to know as much as they needed to based on the lecture.

 

[Medschoolgal1]

Can any past MMS students that are now medical students give advice on the LEOCM Med application timeline? We haven't really received any information on when we should have our application submitted and if we are supposed to include the MMS transcript (our final grades) in our application or not. I kind of want to get the ball rolling before our fall semester really starts kicking our butts with exams every week, because time is going to start flying by. Thanks!

 

[TarpolianDynamite]

Can any past MMS students that are now medical students give advice on the LEOCM Med application timeline? We haven't really received any information on when we should have our application submitted and if we are supposed to include the MMS transcript (our final grades) in our application or not. I kind of want to get the ball rolling before our fall semester really starts kicking our butts with exams every week, because time is going to start flying by. Thanks!

I submitted my application over Thanksgiving break. They should give you a lecture about the process when submitting your application but if you are applying to any other schools just throw LECOM Bradenton in there and that will be good enough. I included all of the classes that I had taken and was taking at the time of submitting my application and just had a transcript sent in from LECOM to AACOMAS. I did not include my spring semester classes because I was not taking them yet and you will be interviewing at the beginning of those classes so your grades there won't matter as much.

Make sure if you are wanting to go to any other campus, besides Bradenton, you send your AACOMAS application to that campus specifically. I think our timeline was something like having our AACOMAS application submitted before the beginning of Winter break.

 

[Medschoolgal1]

Does anyone have any advice on Dr. Biyashee's exams? He is the second professor we have for Pharmacology.

 

[TarpolianDynamite]

Does anyone have any advice on Dr. Biyashee's exams? He is the second professor we have for Pharmacology.

PowerPoint word for word. He is super fair.

 

[Predentaldreamer]

I plan on applying for this masters program next year. Is there a minimum gpa requirement to be considered for admission? I looked on their website and on one part on the websites it states that you at least need a 2.7 minimum science gpa while another part of the website states that you only need at least a 2.7 minimum overall gpa, test scores and the required credits based on your specific track. So I wasn’t sure which one is accurate.

 

[usctrojans24]

Summer classes were Mon from 9-12 (unless we had an exam, then it would be exam 9-11, class 12-3), Tuesdays/Thursdays 9-3, Wed 9-12, Fridays 9-12.

Fall = Our schedule is all over the place and changes in 2/3 weeks, especially with PMH/pathophysiology needing and histology starting. Classes have started 9:30 at the earliest

I have a few questions:
Do you guys have classes for only 3 hours a day and then you are able to leave campus and study on your own? And roughly Fall and Spring are the same?
Dress professionally I assume while on campus?
Is there an email address for LECOM to ask questions I can't seem to find one?

 

[MedDoc305]

I have a few questions:
Do you guys have classes for only 3 hours a day and then you are able to leave campus and study on your own? And roughly Fall and Spring are the same?
Dress professionally I assume while on campus?
Is there an email address for LECOM to ask questions I can't seem to find one?

The 3 hour days are in the Erie campus. Here in Bradenton the schedule varies greatly. There are days we only have 1-2 hour class, other days its all day 9-4. Yes you have to dress professionally while on campus until 5 pm.

 

[usctrojans24]

The 3 hour days are in the Erie campus. Here in Bradenton the schedule varies greatly. There are days we only have 1-2 hour class, other days its all day 9-4. Yes you have to dress professionally while on campus until 5 pm.

Thanks is there an email address I can contact someone in Bradenton about the program?

 

[Ag1625]

Hi guys, my portal says it is sending my decision via mail. But I have a student ID. Does this mean a rejection?


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[MedDoc305]

Hi guys, my portal says it is sending my decision via mail. But I have a student ID. Does this mean a rejection?


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All decisions, whether acceptance or rejection, are sent through snail mail. Youll just have to wait and see what they determined. I would be hard-pressed to believe you were rejected, especially applying so early.

 

[Medschoolgal1]

Does anyone know someone previously in the program who was waitlisted at the end of fall and accepted in the spring? What did they have to bring their GPA up to? Was it still only a 3.3, or did they require a higher cut off? Did they get a call to let them know they were taken off the waitlist, or were they notified in an email?

 

[TarpolianDynamite]

Does anyone know someone previously in the program who was waitlisted at the end of fall and accepted in the spring? What did they have to bring their GPA up to? Was it still only a 3.3, or did they require a higher cut off? Did they get a call to let them know they were taken off the waitlist, or were they notified in an email?

I know of a few people. I think they brought it up to as close to a 3.3 as possible. Really its how much improvement can you show off like if you get a 4.0 in the last semester but only get to a 3.2 it's impressive and I think you will be okay. I think you get the letter by snail mail but you get notified on the portal that a decision was made. You might be able to sucker someone into letting you know what the decision is like if you "happen to be on vacation and you can't get home to check your mail" (wink wink). They don't like to be asked about your decision though and it is best to just be patient and wait for the letter. Hope this helps! Good luck and Happy Thanksgiving!

 

[sktu20]

Anyone get in with a cumulative gpa of around 2.7-2.8?

 

[jboogie500]

Anyone get in with a cumulative gpa of around 2.7-2.8?

Is this GPA from the masters program or from undergrad?

 

[sktu20]

Is this GPA from the masters program or from undergrad?

from just undergrad

 

[sktu20]

I can’t speak on their behalf but it was sub 3.0 (somewhere around 2.7-2.8) and I know one brought it up to a 3.2.
A 3.0 is required for interview and was the spring contingency for those accepted in February. (Spring was what they planned as our toughest semester: Micro, PBL, Anatomy, Immuno, Genetics)

was this their overall gpa with undergrad as well as with the masters program or just the gpa in the masters program for the year?

 

[TarpolianDynamite]

was this their overall gpa with undergrad as well as with the masters program or just the gpa in the masters program for the year?

This is just the Master's GPA. They won't really look at your undergrad GPA once you're in the program.

 

[Startingover123]

We started fall yesterday, and I was wondering if you had any specific advice on each of the physiology professors focus on the exams? I was thinking about just reading the chapters and memorizing the powerpoints to cover all bases, but if anything comes to mind it would be of great help.

Exam 1: Critz with Nolan
Exam 2: Lorenzo
Exam 3/4: Hussein
Exam 5: Critz and Nolan

Thank you in advance.

Could I PM you about this program I have a few questions? It looks like ur messages are off though.

 

[Medschoolgal1]

Hey guys! Any previous MMS students have any advice about spring classes? We will be taking Anatomy, Microbiology, Immunology, Genetics, and PBL again

 

[Dochopeful13]

Current M2 who went through the MMS. This is all absolutely true. The MMS is not easy, but it is easier than medical school. 2 years ago, when you just needed a 3.0 in the program, MMS students who got into the medical program had lower exam averages then people who got straight into the medical program for their M1 Fall semester. I don't know if that changed last year or this year, but I would imagine that's why they have their minimums set where they are. If they were any lower, than LECOM would be taking people from the MMS who are going to do worse, on average, than their normal applicant pool. For a personal anecdote, I had a 3.5 MMS gpa when I interviewed for the med program, and hover around the 50% rank in my class.

I absolutely agree MMS is best suited for people who have low stats for non-academic reasons. I had <3.0 and used AIS, but I knew that it was because I was very lazy in undergrad. If that's you, and you can turn it around, then the MMS is a great choice. If you have those same stats, and its the best you can do, the MMS is definitely a risky decision.

I know most of the MMS students are doing the MMS because they are not competitive to get into their programs directly, BUT the biggest mistake you can make is thinking that the MMS will get you in with lower standards than the normal route. It is a proving ground, not a backdoor.

Would you mind PMing me?? I have some questions regarding this program.

Thank you!

 

[TarpolianDynamite]

Hey guys! Any previous MMS students have any advice about spring classes? We will be taking Anatomy, Microbiology, Immunology, Genetics, and PBL again

Immunology and genetics were my favorites in terms of material. The tests are in depth but if you did well in CMB you will be fine in both of these classes. Try your best to crush anatomy. That is the big one that carries over to the medical school I made a B in the MMS and made a B in it in the medical school. PBL is PBL round 2 nothing crazy new but it did correlate a lot better with the material in genetics, immunology, and micro. Micro was my least favorite. Just seemed a little disorganized and I had trouble nailing down a good study plan for that class, mostly memorization rather than application.

 

[Med1238]

Can a past master's student shed some light on the nature of the anatomy exams? Professor Liuzzi said to take special note of the clinical boxes in the book so does that mean most questions are focused on those and his slides or no?

 

[TarpolianDynamite]

Can a past master's student shed some light on the nature of the anatomy exams? Professor Liuzzi said to take special note of the clinical boxes in the book so does that mean most questions are focused on those and his slides or no?

If you read the book at all stick to the blue boxes. His tests are power point and one liner based for the most part. The only question that was not in the power points was a question about rickets if I remember correctly.

 

[MedDoc305]

If you read the book at all stick to the blue boxes. His tests are power point and one liner based for the most part. The only question that was not in the power points was a question about rickets if I remember correctly.

Thanks that helps tremendously.