LECOM-Erie class of 2011!!

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Dorkus Maximus said:
Well, since everyone else is jumpin' in and stating their views, I guess I will too!!! Before I begin: to all those that are coming next year, don't fret! I too read all the negative views everyone seemed to have about LECOM before I arrived. I had already accepted and was so excited, then everyone started bashing it and I thought I made a mistake. Welp, I'm here to tell you that you didn't make a mistake at all! Even you don't end up liking LECOM, it's a means to an end!

Anyway, here's my two cents:

I thought first semester was pretty good. I quickly got broken in to the whole medical school study routine, as my first anatomy grades were absolutely horrible. However, with the help of the professors and fellow students, things worked out. Most of the professors are awesome, but there are always a few wherever you go that just rub you the wrong way. My fellow students are super-duper and I feel the education I'm getting is great.

But I must agree with the other comments in this thread. LECOM has implemented a whole ton of "revisions" to a rule book that was already thicker than the Bible. It seems that this semester, Satan herself is out to make us hate her even more. We used to be able to come in sweats and a t-shirt for OMM days, now we have to put a shirt and tie on just to come in the building, then go to the locker room and change. How stupid is that? Anyway, all the rules are starting to nag us a little bit, but we will all get through it. With that being said, did you all hear LECOM is building a $35 million (est) Health and Wellness Center - so maybe the administration did listen to our complaints about the "gym" at the school. But then again, Satan and her minions will probably make some absurd rules that you have to wear a tie to workout, and even then, you can't have a water bottle. And absolutely no sweating! 😱

In conclusion: Do the rules suck - yes! Is Silvia a wire-haired man goblin - yes! (any fans of Scrubs? :laugh: :laugh: ) But am I happy I came here and will be a DO in the end - you bet! So there you have it.
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Great Post 👍 and I love Scrubs. I'm sure others do as well!
 
I got my acceptance in the mail today!!! But of course I sent in my deposit to bradenton yesterday....IDIOT. My wife and I are pumped about the school and the fact that we will get to witness seasons. If anyone knows of a good realtor I'd like to know.
 
In the words of one of our clinical professors "get over it!"
Thats right, here at LECOM we don't receive words of encouragement. We're told that the demands of being a doctor is "unreasonable" and we need to just "get over it."

I do agree that many of the professors are great and try their best to help you, well, once you've been allowed behind the locked doors and have been escorted to their offices so you can talk to them...

I understand the need for rules and policies, I don't mind the dress code (my wardrobe has grown extensively), but if they want us to be professionals, they need to treat us like ones.

As for the new health and wellness center, its just another way for LECOM to get their name out in the community. The students have ask for many more reasonable, less expensive things, like keeping the library and study rooms opened later than 11pm, or letting us study in the student lounge past midnight. But we were told that it would cost more money to keep everything opened later and they're just trying to keep our tuition cost low. They have an extra 35mil laying around, I'm sure a couple hours wouldn't hurt.

Overall, if I had to go back and do it again, I would seriously consider a different school. Med school is hard enough as it is, you don't need the extra BS and stress from the administration.
 
I wonder what the LECOM higherups would say about all this negative publicity to their school, to people who have been accepted here. I kind of want to ask them about it and be like "Most current students come here and give many reasons to go somewhere else, with hardly any students posting positive reasons to attend here, as other students do on SDN".

Opinions??
 
i'm still waiting to hear back about these alleged gallbladder removals from the lack of water fountains. am I the only one that found that statement bizarre? was it a poorly executed joke?

all the complaints are of the administration and I just don't know anyone who actually likes their administration. no one talks about how great their school's administration is. I hated the admin at my undergrad but I wouldn't go around telling people not to go there. You have to wear a tie on OMM days? Someone alert the ACLU. You have to go study at your apartment after midnight? Shocking. When you consider the disproportionate amount of whining LECOM students do on SDN, compared to other schools, it makes me think maybe the admin makes all these new rules to try to break the whiners and make them grow up. If you really honest to God have a problem with the school, then have a protest. Have a big campus wide protest where you all come to class in your underwear and dump water on the desks and demand your rights. Present the admin with a list of your demands. Go to the press and embaress them publicly. Start a campaign where all the alums refuse to donate any more money until things change. Other than the underwear bit, I did all the above myself when I was in school and unhappy with policy. But you people aren't not going to do that. You're not going to risk your priveleged doctor futures. You're going to come on here and complain anonymously and say "don't come here!". That's just lame.
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Now back to those-going-to-LECOM-next-year chat. My mother is freaking out about how cold it's going to be. It's weird because I live in western PA already so it's not like I'm coming there from florida or something. She went and bought me a winter coat on clearance this weekend. So odd the things parents worry about. I myself am worried about finding good pre-school in Erie for my 3 year old son. Does anyone know which ones are good? I'm hoping a current student will see this and suggest one. He's special needs but he'll be going to a regular pre-school as far as I know. I'd like to find the pre-school first and then find housing nearby if possible.

Looking forward to meeting all of you! Oh, one more thing: does anyone know when the interviews for the Primary Care Scholars program is?
 
MiesVanDerMom said:
i'm still waiting to hear back about these alleged gallbladder removals from the lack of water fountains. am I the only one that found that statement bizarre? was it a poorly executed joke?

all the complaints are of the administration and I just don't know anyone who actually likes their administration. no one talks about how great their school's administration is. I hated the admin at my undergrad but I wouldn't go around telling people not to go there. You have to wear a tie on OMM days? Someone alert the ACLU. You have to go study at your apartment after midnight? Shocking. When you consider the disproportionate amount of whining LECOM students do on SDN, compared to other schools, it makes me think maybe the admin makes all these new rules to try to break the whiners and make them grow up. If you really honest to God have a problem with the school, then have a protest. Have a big campus wide protest where you all come to class in your underwear and dump water on the desks and demand your rights. Present the admin with a list of your demands. Go to the press and embaress them publicly. Start a campaign where all the alums refuse to donate any more money until things change. Other than the underwear bit, I did all the above myself when I was in school and unhappy with policy. But you people aren't not going to do that. You're not going to risk your priveleged doctor futures. You're going to come on here and complain anonymously and say "don't come here!". That's just lame.
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Now back to those-going-to-LECOM-next-year chat. My mother is freaking out about how cold it's going to be. It's weird because I live in western PA already so it's not like I'm coming there from florida or something. She went and bought me a winter coat on clearance this weekend. So odd the things parents worry about. I myself am worried about finding good pre-school in Erie for my 3 year old son. Does anyone know which ones are good? I'm hoping a current student will see this and suggest one. He's special needs but he'll be going to a regular pre-school as far as I know. I'd like to find the pre-school first and then find housing nearby if possible.

Looking forward to meeting all of you! Oh, one more thing: does anyone know when the interviews for the Primary Care Scholars program is?
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For your son I would recommend you looking into the Millcreek school system. My realtor told me they are top notch. As for the PCSP program, candidates will be interviewed after the first 15 weeks and it will depend on how well you do in that timeframe. I put PCSP/LDP as my #1 choice, but if I don't get it I will be happy anyway. It's a win/win situation. 😀

Please let's continue the positive energy on this forum. Soon enough well become like somewhat of a family in the future because we will all go through the same hardships to reach our goals and we will be colleagues in the end.

Life isn't perfect, we just need to deal with it as we go!
 
Oh I wish I was still an optimistic and naïve pre-med.

Several of my classmates are trying to warn you that this is a bad situation with a malignant administration, and you want to call us whiners!!!!!

God help you after you are $100,000 in debt with an aggressive administration breathing down your neck trying to trip you up and throw you out. You have no idea how bad it is here and how hopeless it feels to be so discouraged and belittled.

I fear saying anything else because “Big Brother” is always watching here at LECOM!!!

Best of luck to you and I’ll be looking for future posts from you once you are one of the whiners you now criticize!
 
I've always wanted to do EM, but I'm only an MS1, so we'll see.

FYI - I am not by any means trying to scare people away from LECOM, I'm just trying to pass on information about my current feelings about the school for you guys. I heard the same bad things about the school when I was making my decision, but I still came here. I'm just making sure that all of you are afforded the same pre-warning, because I know I wouldn't want to be stuck into this without warning.

Just repeat the mantra after me, "Its a means to an end, its a mean to an end."
 
LisaMD said:
I wonder what the LECOM higherups would say about all this negative publicity to their school, to people who have been accepted here. I kind of want to ask them about it and be like "Most current students come here and give many reasons to go somewhere else, with hardly any students posting positive reasons to attend here, as other students do on SDN".

Opinions??
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I know where it would get you....absolutely nowhere, but if you do please let me know what they say. That would make some great entertainment. Put it this way, at my last residency interview I got 1 pt. given to me out of a possible of 8 pts. for quality of medical school...:scared:

I too defended LECOM prior to med. school. Like the rest of you I just didn't know any better. Hindsight is always 20/20. It's a means to end and nothing more. My advice...show up, shut up, speak when spoken too, and study like nobody's business so you can kill the USMLE's and match into what you want to do and where you want to go.
 
"You can't keep a good man (or woman) down" and it is possible to navigate the minefields that this administration sets in front of you but if given a choice why would you want to? There are other schools to attend and I don't see any posts warning people not to attend them. The number of people who will warn you that this place is not acceptable is growing!

If you have another acceptance, think very seriously about taking it!!!
 
smgilles said:
I know where it would get you....absolutely nowhere, but if you do please let me know what they say. That would make some great entertainment. Put it this way, at my last residency interview I got 1 pt. given to me out of a possible of 8 pts. for quality of medical school...:scared:

I too defended LECOM prior to med. school. Like the rest of you I just didn't know any better. Hindsight is always 20/20. It's a means to end and nothing more. My advice...show up, shut up, speak when spoken too, and study like nobody's business so you can kill the USMLE's and match into what you want to do and where you want to go.
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The interviewers gave you a 1/8 because of LECOM? What is this based on??
 
People, there's nothing to fear! Make the most out of it and that's all. None of us will spend an eternity at LECOM. We just need to keep our focus and rock the boards and ace rotations and match.
 
LisaMD said:
The interviewers gave you a 1/8 because of LECOM? What is this based on??
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I have no idea what it is based upon because they didn't say. I wasn't supposed to see the form he was filling out. I just watched him circle it as he was going through my ERAS application and interviewing me.....these things are supposed to be "objective." Yeah right! Lots of places use a scoring system, i.e., so many pts for grades, LORs, board scores, etc. This is supposed to give them an easier way to rank all the people they interview.

I have gotten mixed reviews about LECOM on my interviews. A couple of places thought they put out strong applicants. A few others frowned heavily on the school because they just started in 1993 and already have a sister school in FL. A couple of places I interviewed had never heard of the place, but that shouldn't be suprising because there are people in Erie that don't know what LECOM is.

Like it has been said a million time, medical school is what you make of it and how hard you are willing to work, but it is hard to soar with eagles when you are surrounded by a bunch of turkeys. What I am trying to say is don't put yourself at a disadvantage from the beginning.
 
bkpa2med said:
For your son I would recommend you looking into the Millcreek school system. My realtor told me they are top notch. As for the PCSP program, candidates will be interviewed after the first 15 weeks and it will depend on how well you do in that timeframe. I put PCSP/LDP as my #1 choice, but if I don't get it I will be happy anyway. It's a win/win situation. 😀

Please let's continue the positive energy on this forum. Soon enough well become like somewhat of a family in the future because we will all go through the same hardships to reach our goals and we will be colleagues in the end.

Life isn't perfect, we just need to deal with it as we go!
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for PCSP I was told there would be an initial interview before classes started and from that interview 12 people would be chosen. then, after the first 15 weeks of class, 6 of those 12 would become the actual chosen ones. So I'm assuming there's an interview in the spring some time.
 
Wow, the bashing continues!

I'm an MSI at LECOM and just wanted to add a few comments...

It would probably be safe to say that LECOM has THE MOST RULES of any medical school in the country. Yes, some of them are petty (wearing a tie on wednesdays), annoying (no food/drink in lecture), and just plain dumb(new grading policies)...

Based on this, many students in our class feel "oppressed," and have the need to "fight back" by complaining about these things... LECOM could be the best school in the country, but just based on the rules imposed on us students there would still be a multitude of bitching on this forum about it! We do have plenty of pissed off students in our class, but the majority of the students like to complain about the rules (myself included), laugh at how dumb they are, and then move on! There are only a select few (people writing on SDN), that are truely irritated and deeply depressed because of LECOM.

Medical School is what you make of it. The professors at LECOM have been very good so far, students are a kick, and the weather is beautiful! Yes, the rules are RIDICULOUS, but we all new LECOM was a "guidelines" type of school before we came.... right?? Some people are still pissed about the dress code, if you didn't hear about that before school your dumb, and should quit now...


On another note, I've heard from numerous people(physicians included) that students rotating from LECOM are some of the best students in the PA/Ohio area... So get over this whole ("if you go to LECOM you get a 1/8") crap! It's just plain not true...

Last year at this time I was deciding on whether or not to come here, and read something by "Steal City." He was a student and hated LECOM, and let everyone know how terrible it was. Remember, LECOM will inherently have the noisiest students because of the strict rules... It doesn't mean its a bad school.

Although... These threads are a very good procrastination outlet👍
 
Well put, DonVB! 👍

I wholeheartedly agree with you! People need to take a step back from all the hoopla, take a deep breath, and relax... as evidenced by our OMM lecture on relaxation techniques yesterday! :laugh:

So future students - don't worry about it! Things will be OK... and once you get here, if you "feel oppressed" +pity+ , you can always get on SDN and scare the kids next year! Just something to look forward to!

I just find humor in the whole thing - keeps me sane!
 
Donvb and Dorkus Maximus :

Thanks for writing up honest posts. This thread is made for the Class of 2011 to cherish the joy of being accepted and choosing this medical school. With all the people complaining about the rules, it's true that you knew about them beforehand. I guess this is why certain people don't apply to LECOM and at least they don't do a disservice to themselves.

We know what we are getting ourselves into from the beginning. I was really impressed with the campus and I loved the atmosphere that certain first years I met gave off. When it comes down to it, to each his own like I've said before. LECOM-Erie was a right choice for me and I will be happy with my choice. If things get "irritating" I'll just laugh it off and move on.

There are greater issues that we should consider like the future of medicine itself and not what rules LECOM will apply. Some people may call me crazy that I didn't choose NYCOM but honestly I'm looking for FP or IM for the most part. I don't want to travel 3 hours a day round trip from school and take out $65k/yr (yep and it increases). But look at this ... these are my reasons and you don't really see me posting on NYCOM's Class of 2011.

Back to the ones who are going to be my future classmates, WE'LL BE FINE! It comes down to the individual for all your achievements in life.
 
As current students, we are not on here to complain or to attempt to scare anyone. We a trying to warn those who are making decisions about what school to attend, and to prepare those are coming here (what they should expect). Higher-ups do monitor this site...and some of us are sticking our necks out to try to help you future students! If you don't want to listen, don't! I won't lose sleep over it, what little I do get!
(P.S. I am glad people are able to laugh things off as first years, b/c I was able to do that also. But, come talk to me after you have been here almost 2 years, and have to deal with everything in the midst of boards/etc...)
 
LisaMD said:
I wonder what the LECOM higherups would say about all this negative publicity to their school, to people who have been accepted here. I kind of want to ask them about it and be like "Most current students come here and give many reasons to go somewhere else, with hardly any students posting positive reasons to attend here, as other students do on SDN".

Opinions??
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After reading almost everything that people have posted on here, I couldn't comment on everyone's post, so I picked this one.

I am a current 2nd year, and I speak for everyone in my class when I say that the fact that rotations are starting soon and of course eachother are the only things that are going to get us through the next 5 months. Our class morale is so low because of how the administration approaches and treats the students and other faculty, it is degrading and extremely unprofessional. Lisa, the administration KNOWS how we feel about things and the school. As open-minded they say they are to hearing about student's needs, they aren't. Period. The fact that there are current students "hardly posting positive views" should tell you something. You're smart enough to get into med school, wake up for christ's sake and decipher the comments. The fact that we are taking time out of our lives to tell other students that we don't even know what really goes on should tell you something. I'm going to tell you like it is, if you're going to spend $200,000 on a professional education at LECOM you are going to be disappointed. This place is a doctor factory, and the administration does not care about it's students, just the money they bring in. Instead of investing in better hospitals for students to go on rotations (Like our class and every class before us have requested), they claim to not have the funds, yet decide to build a $35 million dollar "wellness center" so the school will look appealing and attract more students. That is only one of MANY examples that tells you this place does not have the student's best interest in mind.

As for the first year that is posting stuff..... you have a very rude awakening ahead of you. Things were hunky-dory for us for the most part during our first year. Your class will soon get the hammer thrown at them also, just don't be surprised next year when things start to get shady. Our class was.
To everyone else: NEVER EVER base your decision on money and cost. NEVER. Unless you have a couple hundred grand lying around in a bank account and plan on paying for school yourself, cost should never be a factor. You're going to make a lot of money someday and every doctor I know has paid off their debt with no problem. Go somewhere you know you will enjoy the atmosphere. If you must come here because you didn't get accepted anywhere else, or you outright chose lecom, don't let things get to you. Nothing is going to change here, so just keep quiet and take it for the 2 years you will spend here before rotations. After spending 2.5 years here, if I knew then what I know now I would have went to one of the other schools that accepted me.

The only positive thing I have to say about my experience here so far is the professors and students. Most of the professors are great and will help you with any problems that arise, and of course your classmates will always know what you are going through and you'll learn to lean on eachother. As for Bradenton, I have no idea what it's like down there. It could be great, and for those of you who have decided to go there I hope it's better than Erie. Best of luck....
 
Does anybody else find it odd that most of these negative comments are coming from people with a total of 1 or 2 posts? 😕

Is word finally getting around to all the nay-sayers that they can get on this website and warn everybody of the impending doom and harsh oppression that awaits them at LECOM? :scared:
 
Dorkus Maximus said:
Does anybody else find it odd that most of these negative comments are coming from people with a total of 1 or 2 posts? 😕

Is word finally getting around to all the nay-sayers that they can get on this website and warn everybody of the impending doom and harsh oppression that awaits them at LECOM? :scared:
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You are right...I only have 2 posts.🙄 Let me know how much help you get from your adviser when applying to your specialty of choice. Oh wait...you don't get one, you have to figure it all out on your own. How about the match process, ERAS, and NRMP? You guessed it...all on your own again. What about finding rotations/electives...yep, all on your own again. Enjoy trying to schedule your interviews when you are allowed a total of 10 days missed for interviews. How about getting to see your own dean's letter to make sure the information in it about you is correct...you guessed it again, we aren't allowed to see it.

Again, I am glad those that are coming are excited. I was too when I was in your shoes. I don't post to "scare" people and I don't post to spread lies or make things up. If you are forewarned you can be forearmed.
 
smgilles said:
You are right...I only have 2 posts.🙄 Let me know how much help you get from your adviser when applying to your specialty of choice. Oh wait...you don't get one, you have to figure it all out on your own. How about the match process, ERAS, and NRMP? You guessed it...all on your own again. What about finding rotations/electives...yep, all on your own again. Enjoy trying to schedule your interviews when you are allowed a total of 10 days missed for interviews. How about getting to see your own dean's letter to make sure the information in it about you is correct...you guessed it again, we aren't allowed to see it.

Again, I am glad those that are coming are excited. I was too when I was in your shoes. I don't post to "scare" people and I don't post to spread lies or make things up. If you are forewarned you can be forearmed.
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smgilles,
You're posts are accurate and are welcomed. I don't get how all of a sudden you get these posters who have one post making all these comments. For all I know it can be one person.
 
Ok, Ok... I guess I should have said "a few" of the negative comments are from people with only 1 or 2 posts. My bad. 😳

But there are a few people that have come out of the woodworks to post. Every year about this time all the hermits come down out of the mountains, get a cup of Joe from the 7-11 and go to the local library for Internet access, all in the name of LECOM. +pissed+
 
seinordiggler said:
"You can't keep a good man (or woman) down" and it is possible to navigate the minefields that this administration sets in front of you but if given a choice why would you want to? There are other schools to attend and I don't see any posts warning people not to attend them. The number of people who will warn you that this place is not acceptable is growing!

If you have another acceptance, think very seriously about taking it!!!
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You must be on the waitlist too! Resorting to gorilla tactics to deter the fence sitters? NICE!!!👍
 
Coming from a second year, sick of spending 150 hours in CODA for NOTHING, feeling the nerves while waiting in the "little line" before going into the OMM lab practicals and getting one of the "sticklers", wishing that the library wasn't so uncomfortable and being chewed out by the security guard because of how I drove through the parking lot...its a joy to ba a part of the school!

I just wanted to let you know that this place is really going to be a let down when you get here. I wish that someone would have warned me before I turned down my other acceptances. At least you all won't be able to say "I didn't think it would be like this."

The kicker for me was the force feeding of all the mandatory rotation sites, that was final straw! :meanie: That and the lack of any career guidance mentioned earlier...I'm afraid to tell any of the clinical faculty that I don't want do do family practice...ohhh the balsphemy!!!

Best of luck to anyone with an original thought of how they think things should be! This is not the place for non-conformists!! If you accept everything you are told, think OMM can cure cancer and want family practice you will be alright!
 
If anyone cares or hasn't already seen this, here is the 2004 Matchlist of LECOM-Erie:

2004 Matchlist

TRADITIONAL ROTATING (56)
UPMC Hospital
Cook County Hospital
Bassett Hospital
St. Vincent Health Center
Mt. Sinai Hospital
Garden City Osteopathic Hospital (2)
Oakwood Southshr Medical Center
Millcreek Community Hospital (4)
St. Joseph's Hospital of Macomb
Osteopathic Medical Center of TX
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center
Wellington Regional Medical Center
Altoona Hospital
St. Elizabeth's Hospital
Mercy Hospital of Pittsburg in Pittsburgh
Henry Ford Bi-County Community Hospital
Meadville Medical Center (2)
Abington Memorial Hospital
Conemaugh Valley Hospital
Hamot Medical Center
Geisinger Health System (2)
Sisters of Charity Hospital
UPMC, St. Margaret
University of Connecticut Health Center (2)
Clarion Hospital
Western PA Hospital
Medical Center of Independence
Graduate Hospital in Philadelphia
Henry Ford HS/Horizon HS (2)
Lehigh Valley Hospital & Health
Richmond Heights Hospital
UPMC Horizon
St. Vincent Health Center
Meadville Medical Center
Leigh Valley Hospital & Health Center
Arrowhead Reg. Medical Center
Doctor's Hospital – Columbus
St. Joseph's Mercy of Macomb
Portsmouth VA Naval Medical Center
UHHS – Richmond Heights (2)
Western PA Hospital
Portsmount Naval Medical Center
University Hospital of Richmond Heights
St. Lukes Hospital
Conemaugh Valley Center
Hamot Medical Center

FAMILY PRACTICE (26)
Millcreek Community Hospital (2)
Ingham Regional Medical Center
A Eisenhower Army Medical Center
Duluth Graduate Medical Education
Mercy Hospital of Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh (2)
St. Joseph's Health Center
Memorial Medical Center
Mtn Area Health Ed. Center
Sisters of Charity Hospital
Lancaster General Hospital
St. Vincent Medical Center
Camp Lejeune Naval Hospital
Trinity Medical Center North
Jacksonville Naval Hospital
Altoona Family Practice
Community Hospital of Lancaster (2)
Memorial Family Practice in TX
Florida Hospital – Orlando Memorial
Martin Army Community Hospital
University of TN Medical Center
Pinnacle Health Com. Gen. Osteo. Hosp.
DeWitt Army Community Center
MGMC Air Force

INTERNAL MEDICINE (31)
Geisinger Health System
West Pennsylvania Hospital (2)
NY Hospital Medical Center – Queens
Frankford Hospital
Synergy Med. Ed. Alliance – MI
Riverside Methodist in Ohio
Henry Ford Bi-County Community Hospital
Geisinger Medical Center
National Naval Medical Center
Ingham Regional Medical Center
Beth Israel Medical Center
St. Joseph's Mercy Hospital of Pittsburgh
Washington Hospital Center
Osteopathic Medical Center of TX
University of Connecticut
Northside Hospital & Heart Inst.
Lahey Clinic – MA
Drexel (MCP Hahnemann) U COM-PA
Millcreek Community Hospital (2)
Albert Einstein Medical Center
Wright Patterson Air Force Base
Mercy Hospital of Pittsburgh
Garden City Osteopathic Hospital
Frankford Hospital
U Florida Program Shands Hospital
Richmond Heights Hospital
Kennedy Medical Center (2)
University Hospital

GENERAL SURGERY (12)
San Diego, CA Naval Medical Center
Conemaugh Memorial
Waterbury Hospital in CT
Mercy Hospital of Pittsburgh of Pittsburgh (2)
Western Pennsylvania Hospital
Christiana Care
Portsmouth VA Naval Medical Center
Philadelphia Consortium
St. John Detroit Riverview Hospital
Botsford General Hospital
Conemaugh Memorial

OBSTETRICS/GYNECOLOGY (12)
WSU/Detroit Medical Center
St. Joseph's Mercy of Macomb (2)
Riverside Medical Center
Synergy Med Ed. Alliance – MI
University of Connecticut
Greenville Hospital System
Rush University Medical Center
St. Joseph's Hospital – IL
Riverside Regional Medical Center
Mercy Hospital of Pittsburgh
University of Connecticut

ANESTHESIOLOGY (9)
Western PA Hospital (3)
U Michigan Hospital – Ann Arbor
Grandview Medical Center
UPMC Medical Education Program
Ohio State University Medical Center
Mercy Hospital of Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh
Shands Hospital

EMERGENCY MEDICINE (8)
Botsford General Hospital
Leigh Valley Medical Center
St. Vincent Mercy Medicine
L Darnall Army Community Hospital
Grandview Medical Center
Mount Clemens Hospital
University of Connecticut
Doctor's Hospital of Stark County

PEDIATRICS (8)
Horizon Hospital
Maimonides Medical Center
North Shore-LIJ Health System
Sinia Hospital
St. Joseph's Hospital Medical Center
University of Connecticut
Wright Patterson Air Force Base
Richmond Heighs Hospital

PHYS. MEDICINE & REHABILITATION (2)
Mercy Hospital of Pittsburg
John Hopkins Hospital

PRELIMINARY MEDICINE (3)
Sisters of Charity Hospital
Luthern General Hospital
Allegheny General Hospital

PSYCHIATRY (5)
Ohio State University Medical Center
Cleveland Clinic Foundation
University of Maryland Medical Center
NCC Walter Reed Army Medical Center
University of Colorado SOM -Denver

DIAGNOSTIC RADIOLOGY (3)
St. James Hospital & Health
Mercy Hospital of Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh (2)

NEUROLOGICAL SURGERY (1)
Doctor's Hospital - Columbus

FACIAL PLASTIC SURGERY (1)
Doctor's Hospital - Columbus

ORTHOPEDIC SURGERY (1)
Cleveland Clinic

ONCOLOGY (1)
Allegheny General Hospital

PATHOLOGY (1)
Allegheny General Hospital

TRANSITIONAL YEAR (1)
Brook Army Medical Center
 
thanks for the info! I saw a couple of the residency sites I'm interested in listed there, so that's encouraging. I'm going into Family Medicine so I guess I won't have as much oppression as my specialist peers.

Thanks to all who've added constuctively to this conversation. I think we've pretty much beat the dead horse into the ground at this point. But at least it keeps our thread at the top of the page. 🙂

Oh, for smgiles: you said we're forewarned so we can be forearmed. Do you have any advice? Basically, we just need to be aggressive and organized and make sure we're getting good clerkships etc. for ourselves? Anything else?

Sorry to anyone I was bitchy to. It's a weakness of mine. But if I was a guy I'd probably just consider myself assertive so...🙄 🙂
 
I'm a current MSI, and yes, the rules are silly. BUT, if you didn't know about all the rules from SDN, they told them all to you at the interview. There are no surprises. Do I like dressing up in the morning? No. Do I like not being able to have food in the building? No. Do I like mandatory attendance policy? No. But, that's not why I'm in med school. If your ultimate goal is to be a doctor then just suck it up and quit complaining. It's a private school so they can make all the ridiculous rules they want. Do I still complain about it from time to time? Sure, it's what med students do best. Like many other people have said, it is what you make of it. There are a lot of great professors and fellow students, and if you're there to learn and do well, then you will. I too was warned before coming here. Don't let it scare you off. I would, however, recommend expanding your professional wardwrobe before you arrive.
 
2006 Matchlist (Remember they vary depending on the class interests)

Anesthesia (2)
• Western PA Hospital PA Anesthesiology Allopathic
• Rush University Hospital IL Anesthesiology

Emergency Medicine (21)
• Southe Pointe- Cleveland Clinic OH Emergency Medicine
• St. John's Oakland MI Emergency Medicine
• Albert Einstein Medical Center NY Emergency Medicine
• Memorial Hospital PA Emergency Medicine Osteopathic
• Southe Pointe- Cleveland Clinic OH Emergency Medicine
• Kern Medical Center CA Emergency Medicine
• St. John West Shore Hospital OH Emergency Medicine
• Frankford Hospitals PA Emergency Medicine
• Allegheny General Hospital PA Emergency Medicine
• St. Vincent Mercy Medical Center OH Emergency Medicine
• Case Western/ Metro Health Hos. OH Emergency Medicine
• St. Vincent Health Center PA Emergency Medicine
• Memorial Hospital PA Emergency Medicine
• St. John West Shore Hospital OH Emergency Medicine
• St. Vincent Health Center PA Emergency Medicine
• St. Barnabas Hospital PA Emergency Medicine
• St. John's West Shore Hospital OH Emergency Medicine
• University of Rochester/Strong Mem. NY Emergency Medicine
• University of Florida - Shands FL Emergency Medicine
• Hershey Medical Center PA Emergency Medicine
• Shands Hospital FL Emergency Medicine

Family Medicine (23)
• Mercy General Health Partners MI Family Practice
• Cuyhoga Falls General Hospital OH Family Practice
• Millcreek Community Hospital PA Family Practice
• Kalamzoo Center MI Family Practice
• North Colorado Medical Center CO Family Practice
• North Colorado Medical Center CO Family Practice
• Eastern VA Medical School VA Family Practice
• Sisters of Charity Hospital NY Family Practice Osteopathic
• Cuyhoga Falls General Hospital OH Family Practice
• St. John Oakland Hospital MI Family Practice Osteopathic
• ETSU - Quillen College of Medicine TN Family Practice
• Garden City Oseopathic Hospital MI Family Practice
• Cuyhoga Falls General Hospital OH Family Practice
• Clarion Hospital PA Family Practice Osteopathic
• St. Joseph Medical Center PA Family Practice Osteopathic
• St. Joseph - Eastland OH Family Practice
• Portsmouth Naval Hospital OH Family Practice Navy
• Rapid City Regional Hospital SD Family Practice
• Doctor's Hospital - Columbus OH Family Practice
• Central Washington WA Family Practice
• Latrobe Medical Center PA Family Practice
• Brommen Medical Institute IL Family Practice
• Sisters of Charity Hospital NY Family Practice

General Surgery (8)
• Mount Clemens General Hospital MI General Surgery
• University of Florida - Jacksonville FL Surgery
• Peninsula Hospital NY General Surgery
• Genesys Health System MI General Surgery Osteopathic
• Doctor's Hospital - Stark County OH General Surgery Osteopathic
• Southe Pointe- Cleveland Clinic OH General Surgery
• Botsford General Hospital MI General Surgery
• Mercy Suburban Hospital PA General Surgery

Internal Medicine (20)
• Sisters of Charity Hospital NY Internal Medicine
• Case Western/ Metro Health Hos. OH Internal Medicine
• Southe Pointe- Cleveland Clinic OH Internal Medicine
• Geisinger Health System PA Internal Medicine Osteopathic
• Hennepin County Medical Center MN Internal Medicine
• Botsford General Hsopital MI Internal Medicine
• Summa Health / NEOUCOM OH Internal Medicine
• Beth Israel Medical Center NY Internal Medicine
• Lahey Clinic MA Internal Medicine
• University of Kentucky KY Internal Medicine
• Frankford Hospitals PA Internal Medicine
• Sisters of Charity Hospital NY Internal Medicine
• Northside Hospital & Heart Institute FL Internal Medicine
• Hennepin County Medical Center MN Internal Medicine
• Millcreek Community Hospital PA Internal Medicine
• UC Irvine Medical Center CA Internal Medicine
• Illinios COM IL Internal Medicine
• Summa Health / NEOUCOM OH Internal Medicine
• Newark Beth - St. Barnabas NJ Internal Medicine
• Metro Hospital OH Internal Medicine

OB/GYN (3)
• Botsford General Hsopital MI Ob/Gyn Osteopathic
• Detroit Riverview MI Ob/Gyn Osteopathic
• Univ. of Maryland Medical Center MD Ob/Gyn

Orthopedics (1)
• UPMC Pittsburgh PA Orthopedics

Pathology (5)
• Winthrop University Hospital NY Pathology
• Winthrop University Hospital NY Pathology
• Danbury Hospital CT Pathology
• Allegheny General Hospital PA Pathology
• Berkshire Medical Center MA Pathology

Pediatrics (6)
• Schneider Children'sHospital NY Pediatrics
• St. John Oakland Hospital MI Pediatrics
• University of Buffalo NY Pediatrics
• Geisinger Health System PA Pediatrics Osteopathic
• Wright State Univ. OH Pediatrics
• University of Buffalo NY Pediatrics

Physical Med. & Rehab (1)
• WSU/ Detriot Medical Center MI Physical Med. & Rehab.

Psychiatry (2)
• Cleveland Clinic Foundation OH Psychiatry
• University Hospital OH Psychiatry

Radiology (1)
• Botsford General Hospital MI Diagnositic Radiology Osteopathic
 
well the LECOM-Erie DO that I shadowed is going to write and send my LOR to interfolio this weekend. i know that it is pretty late in the application cycle but anybody know what percent of the class is full? i know they are inviting until the end of april according their website, do i still have a chance? BTW i don't care about the negative comments about the school, i could tell by the LECOM-Erie DO i shadowed that she received a great education there. my stats are 3.39 overall, 3.43 science, 3.35 non-science and 23 MCAT.
 
Stats are ok but I really don't know chances. It is pretty late in the cycle.
 
Anyone attending now know of many of your classmates that are doing orthopedic residencies and if they matched osteo or allopathic?
 
Buckeye4life said:
Anyone attending now know of many of your classmates that are doing orthopedic residencies and if they matched osteo or allopathic?
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I think the majority of people on this site are still pre-clinical...but as current students we are aware of where our students are matching. So not sure how many of my class are going to match...but I am interested in ortho, and keep a close eye on these spots. If you have any specific questions shoot me an email!
 
Wow! After reading all the posts from current students as to how bad this place is, I am ever so thankful I didn't apply to LECOM. I might have been accepted and tempted to actually attend. I feel sorry for folks who actually turned down other schools to come to LECOM.
 
All this warning about the administration makes me think about the wizard of oz. The Great Wizard of Oz makes Dorthy and her friends shudder at the thought of meeting him face-to-face, and some of the people who get nervous about all the fire and show are like the cowardly lion who jumps through the glass window. Ultimately, though, it is all an act and the Wizard turns out to be alright in the end, and everyone involved had what they needed to succeed all along, and they didn't need a pat on the butt to get them to overcome their obstacles. I for one am going to douse that green, broom-riding witch, and get that half burnt proof called my medical degree. I know, I know, it's so clever.😎
 
ppormansdoormd said:
BTW i don't care about the negative comments about the school, i could tell by the LECOM-Erie DO i shadowed that she received a great education there..
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Having been on rotations for 2 years and done residency interviews and talked to attendings, many of whom are DOs and quite a few of them LECOM grads, I can tell you that LECOM is regarded for having an excellent clinical education. The students are very good clinically. Most say that they love working with LECOM students and that they are actually well thought of as applicants for residency programs esp in Primary Care ( LECOM: building the next generation of primary care physicians or whatever). However, LECOM's not so good at preparing you for the boards, so take my advice, study for the boards early and study hard. Because the average is low, and no matter how good your grades or your rotations have gone, too many will end up failing (steps1 and 2), i know that from experience. (note i'm not bashing the administration or their rules, so that's my advice to all of you, and i wish someone told me) The summer after your MS1 year, you'll be tempted to not do anything medical school-related, but you better. Good luck at LECOM, you'll all get through it, it's almost over for me 👍 Match is 2/12!
 
Most 4th years aren't that pissed off anymore that they sat in alphabetical order or wore a tie as 1st years. Don't go, 300 other people would love your spot.
 
koennen said:
Wow! After reading all the posts from current students as to how bad this place is, I am ever so thankful I didn't apply to LECOM. I might have been accepted and tempted to actually attend. I feel sorry for folks who actually turned down other schools to come to LECOM.
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You know, these conversations about LECOM have been going on for years, so it's not like any good SDNer wouldn't be informed. 🙂 Hey, though, things might change. DMU, which is loved by everyone here, used to be bashed pretty regularly.
 
confused_amused said:
Having been on rotations for 2 years and done residency interviews and talked to attendings, many of whom are DOs and quite a few of them LECOM grads, I can tell you that LECOM is regarded for having an excellent clinical education. The students are very good clinically. Most say that they love working with LECOM students and that they are actually well thought of as applicants for residency programs esp in Primary Care ( LECOM: building the next generation of primary care physicians or whatever). However, LECOM's not so good at preparing you for the boards, so take my advice, study for the boards early and study hard. Because the average is low, and no matter how good your grades or your rotations have gone, too many will end up failing (steps1 and 2), i know that from experience. (note i'm not bashing the administration or their rules, so that's my advice to all of you, and i wish someone told me) The summer after your MS1 year, you'll be tempted to not do anything medical school-related, but you better. Good luck at LECOM, you'll all get through it, it's almost over for me 👍 Match is 2/12!
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thanks for the advice 👍
 
LisaMD said:
I wonder what the LECOM higherups would say about all this negative publicity to their school, to people who have been accepted here. I kind of want to ask them about it and be like "Most current students come here and give many reasons to go somewhere else, with hardly any students posting positive reasons to attend here, as other students do on SDN".

Opinions??
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I think that would excellent. It may make them think about think and maybe they'll ease up a little for you guys comming in.
 
I dont know about you guys but the only reason why I am going to medical school is to get laid....So as long as LECOM doesnt have any rules like "No sex in the champagne room" I will be fine!

Thought I would lighten things up a bit...
 
cebfordham07 said:
I dont know about you guys but the only reason why I am going to medical school is to get laid....So as long as LECOM doesnt have any rules like "No sex in the champagne room" I will be fine!

Thought I would lighten things up a bit...
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oOoOo yea :laugh:
 
cebfordham07 said:
I dont know about you guys but the only reason why I am going to medical school is to get laid....So as long as LECOM doesnt have any rules like "No sex in the champagne room" I will be fine!

Thought I would lighten things up a bit...
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It's funny you mention that because during your 2nd year you will get an entire lecture about not having sexual "activities" in the dorm facilities at the various rotations for 3/4th years. So yes, there are LECOM rules about that too...😀

What I meant by if you are forewarned you can forearmend is that you know by reading the previous posts you are going to have to be extra prepared, work harder than most students, have thick skin, and learn in an environment that is not conducive to learning. I am biased but I think PBL will prepare you the best for boards, especially if you are taking the USMLE (which everyone should!!).

Buckeye4life....I suggest you get some thicker skin, because you are going to hear plenty of negativity throughout your 4 years at LECOM (from attendings, students from other schools, and your own classmates). Just pretend LECOM is the Florida Gators...that's what it is going to be like at times.😱
 
Does LECOM have a SimMan? If so, how many and when do students get to start using them?
 
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