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SARdoghandler said:
Quoting these as an example to answer the first quote. Coffee, I never said logical, I said you were making sense. As in, I wasnt sitting here going "coffee wat r u doin" like I did last game. Your sketchess has made it into my analysis of you, just like you asked haha


I thought along these lines too when I read the write up - as in it seemed like Mel's death was almost coincidental. Didn't think about it as mod flair though. Either way, more nights should give us an idea on whether 2 kills will be normal or just a one off (I suspect the latter, if only because this is not a huge game but I've been very wrong speculating mechanics before)



Not a fan of this logic. I didnt read coffee as being in genny's face. Fishing a little, maybe but not aggressively. What would be the alternative - 0 follow up questions on the info drop?


See, again, this type of post sounds more village coffee to me having been inside her village pm brain. Gonna stop second guessing myself and plunk her village lean for now.



Leaving these quoted because the first one pinged feels because it seemed like a comment with a heck of a lot wrong with it but I think I see the purpose in asking in the second quote.
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Oh okay good. Just as long as you don't claim that I'm being logical :laugh:
 
The current candidates are listed in the 2nd Deck Lounge. Your Captains thank you for your assistance.

Day 2 Votes
SAR (2) - AM, genny
KC (2) - Coffeebean, pip
DVMD () -
Bryndi (2) - skim, dubz
Coffeebean (3) - jboo, Sobsob, bryndi
pippy (1) - kcough
genny (1) - SAR

11/16 passengers accounted for. Deadline in 5.25 hours

Carry on with your business! Don't forget to check out the views.
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kcoughli said:
Can people who are just posting a lynch vote with no explanation please elaborate? My mind reading abilities have deteriorated lately.
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CoffeeQuestionMark said:
Since Mel is dead guess I have to RNG :yeahright:

Lynch KC

Are dolphin and Jboo the only ones to not post yet?
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This rubbed me the wrong way. Also the follow up about the mod PM makes me think she’s in wolf chat.
 
WildZoo said:
Pretty sure my role wasn't RNG either so would not be surprised
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So you're something super tiny? Like a tiny little krill? Or maybe an algae?

CoffeeQuestionMark said:
When do I reach the level of sketchoness of AM and Mel to make me immune to both lynch and NKs?
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Ummmm, did you miss what happened last night? lol.

Apparently the RNG gods don't think you're sketchy enough yet, because they've decided to

lynch coffee?
 
Stagg737 said:
So you're something super tiny? Like a tiny little krill? Or maybe an algae?



Ummmm, did you miss what happened last night? lol.

Apparently the RNG gods don't think you're sketchy enough yet, because they've decided to

lynch coffee?
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Ok but that was a rare thing and we don't even know what the circumstances were so I maintain he is immune (for the most part)
 
Stagg737 said:
So you're something super tiny? Like a tiny little krill? Or maybe an algae?



Ummmm, did you miss what happened last night? lol.

Apparently the RNG gods don't think you're sketchy enough yet, because they've decided to

lynch coffee?
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Phytoplankton, actually

And I'm not sure I believe this is RNG :thinking:
 
PippyPony said:
There is NO reason for an RNG vote right now. There has been a mayor vote, 2 night kills, and a full complement of people talking today. Side eye hard for this.
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Do I really need to explain my reasoning for my initial vote being RNG every game? Yea, there's been some decent discussion, but nothing convincing enough to me that I feel comfortable placing a lynch vote anywhere yet. That may change, but at the moment I still prefer RNG.

And yea there were NKs, but how are we actually supposed to analyze that this early in the game? There are too many possibilities for me to actually make any meaningful conclusions from that right now. Unless I just really suck at this I don't have enough info yet to start making decisions based on anything other than early game feelz, which you should know by now I don't trust.
 
Stagg737 said:
Do I really need to explain my reasoning for my initial vote being RNG every game? Yea, there's been some decent discussion, but nothing convincing enough to me that I feel comfortable placing a lynch vote anywhere yet. That may change, but at the moment I still prefer RNG.

And yea there were NKs, but how are we actually supposed to analyze that this early in the game? There are too many possibilities for me to actually make any meaningful conclusions from that right now. Unless I just really suck at this I don't have enough info yet to start making decisions based on anything other than early game feelz, which you should know by now I don't trust.
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Anything about Coffee?'s posts sticking out to you?
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
Funny I thought the same thing, because the only other game I recall him RNG he also voted me
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I have RNG'd on the first vote in every game I've played other than maybe Colorado (my first game). It got me lynched D1 in the Bicycle game and Cray and I had a long exchange about it in dead chat. I've also explained why I do it at least 3 times now. I'm not sure if you're genuinely forgetting this or if you're playing dumb to try and make me look wolfy, but it's making me more comfortable with my RNG vote than I previously was...

Animal Midwife said:
Anything about Coffee?'s posts sticking out to you?
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Not until the other quote in this post. Coffee had been coming across as neutral to slight village lean before that, but I feel like she's played with me enough that she should know that I RNG D1/first lynch by now.
 
Stagg737 said:
Not until the other quote in this post. Coffee had been coming across as neutral to slight village lean before that, but I feel like she's played with me enough that she should know that I RNG D1/first lynch by now.
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So you RNGed someone you felt could be village? Where do you lean her now?
 
Stagg737 said:
I have RNG'd on the first vote in every game I've played other than maybe Colorado (my first game). It got me lynched D1 in the Bicycle game and Cray and I had a long exchange about it in dead chat. I've also explained why I do it at least 3 times now. I'm not sure if you're genuinely forgetting this or if you're playing dumb to try and make me look wolfy, but it's making me more comfortable with my RNG vote than I previously was...



Not until the other quote in this post. Coffee had been coming across as neutral to slight village lean before that, but I feel like she's played with me enough that she should know that I RNG D1/first lynch by now.
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A quick search of RNG in your posts shows you RNG'd in Bicycle (which I didnt play and poorly followed) and Smash where you RNG'd me. Am I missing something?
 
Stagg737 said:
Do I really need to explain my reasoning for my initial vote being RNG every game? Yea, there's been some decent discussion, but nothing convincing enough to me that I feel comfortable placing a lynch vote anywhere yet. That may change, but at the moment I still prefer RNG.

And yea there were NKs, but how are we actually supposed to analyze that this early in the game? There are too many possibilities for me to actually make any meaningful conclusions from that right now. Unless I just really suck at this I don't have enough info yet to start making decisions based on anything other than early game feelz, which you should know by now I don't trust.
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What day do you expect to have enough information?
 
Skimble said:
I think mostly her comment about DVMD seeming village, even though she hadn’t said much at that point and the comment about coffee making sense, though most others don’t seem to feel the same way. It just doesn’t feel right, especially coming from SAR.
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To expand on those reads you've commented on: Dvmd may not have said much, but her D1/D2 contributions in this game are like 800% higher than usual (which for the past few games has been drop a lynch vote and peace, which I get because life). Of what she has said, I'm reading village. Most of my feels work that way, and one post is enough to trigger feels. That's what got me tunneling on you last game. As for coffee, I so far (excepting one tinfoil incident) can read her 100% reliably. If others disagree with me on her behaviour today then that's on them but I'm not going to sheep others opinions on a player when they differ from mine. Also it should be noted that Coffee making sense to me some today initially had my eyebrows up, which I think is the opposite here of what you are implying. Coffee and I tend to be extreme tinfoiling buddies and she can be a bit of a rabid villager so if her comments don't seem at least a little erratic (ilu coffee) then I start to doubt her villageness. She's had enough of her regular meta posts today to calm me down again and leave me relatively happy with putting her at village lean

Unless she's playing the long game and started pocketing me two games ago...
 
Animal Midwife said:
So you RNGed someone you felt could be village? Where do you lean her now?
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For now still neutral, but less of the village lean after her previous comment. I could be persuaded to move that vote as we've had more conversations than the typical D1 lynch vote. But I'd need someone to give a better reason that "this person is giving me feelz".

CoffeeQuestionMark said:
A quick search of RNG in your posts shows you RNG'd in Bicycle (which I didnt play and poorly followed) and Smash where you RNG'd me. Am I missing something?
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Those are the only two games I've played other than Colorado and I've talked about it extensively in tots/dead chat several times. If you really want I can look for those convos because apparently you are missing things. If you were part of dead chat for bicycle Cray and I had a long exchange about it near the end.

PippyPony said:
What day do you expect to have enough information?
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Usually I start making legit votes based on analysis on D3/4. D2 is sometimes enough info for me to feel comfortable enough to cast a more legit vote, but we don't have a D1 lynch to look at and I've never played a game with a mayor/first mate before, so I'm not really sure how to interpret that. I've started some early analysis for this game which is why I said at this point I could be persuaded to move off my RNG vote, but not comfortable enough to make a true vote I'm comfortable with yet.
 
Stagg737 said:
For now still neutral, but less of the village lean after her previous comment. I could be persuaded to move that vote as we've had more conversations than the typical D1 lynch vote. But I'd need someone to give a better reason that "this person is giving me feelz".
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Well, it's not Day 1 lol

What does "feelz" mean to you?
 
WIFOM incoming:
I straight up told Stagg he was going to continue to get heat for his RNG votes when it was discussed in dead chat in the Bicycle game. I feel like continuing to do it here despite that is fairly village.
 
SARdoghandler said:
To expand on those reads you've commented on: Dvmd may not have said much, but her D1/D2 contributions in this game are like 800% higher than usual (which for the past few games has been drop a lynch vote and peace, which I get because life). Of what she has said, I'm reading village. Most of my feels work that way, and one post is enough to trigger feels. That's what got me tunneling on you last game. As for coffee, I so far (excepting one tinfoil incident) can read her 100% reliably. If others disagree with me on her behaviour today then that's on them but I'm not going to sheep others opinions on a player when they differ from mine. Also it should be noted that Coffee making sense to me some today initially had my eyebrows up, which I think is the opposite here of what you are implying. Coffee and I tend to be extreme tinfoiling buddies and she can be a bit of a rabid villager so if her comments don't seem at least a little erratic (ilu coffee) then I start to doubt her villageness. She's had enough of her regular meta posts today to calm me down again and leave me relatively happy with putting her at village lean

Unless she's playing the long game and started pocketing me two games ago...
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this is nice
like a mutually warm gooey hot pocket

Stagg737 said:
For now still neutral, but less of the village lean after her previous comment. I could be persuaded to move that vote as we've had more conversations than the typical D1 lynch vote. But I'd need someone to give a better reason that "this person is giving me feelz".



Those are the only two games I've played other than Colorado and I've talked about it extensively in tots/dead chat several times. If you really want I can look for those convos because apparently you are missing things. If you were part of dead chat for bicycle Cray and I had a long exchange about it near the end.



Usually I start making legit votes based on analysis on D3/4. D2 is sometimes enough info for me to feel comfortable enough to cast a more legit vote, but we don't have a D1 lynch to look at and I've never played a game with a mayor/first mate before, so I'm not really sure how to interpret that. I've started some early analysis for this game which is why I said at this point I could be persuaded to move off my RNG vote, but not comfortable enough to make a true vote I'm comfortable with yet.
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I don't think I'm missing anything. I don't doubt that you RNG D1 each game. But that somehow you have rolled me 2/3 times, and I was ALREADY the leading lynch vote, mais c'est un grand coincidence, non?
 
Animal Midwife said:
Well, it's not Day 1 lol

What does "feelz" mean to you?
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True, it's D1. But we don't have any lynch votes to look at yet, so it's like an extended D1 imo.

Feelz to me is voting just based off of tone of posts or just interactions between two people without comparing it to anything. I like either looking at vote/action patterns (if a person is claiming an ability) or comparing statements/reads on from early game to later in game. Imo the further into the game you get the less you should be using feels as reasoning for votes.

I don't particularly like using "metas" as reasoning either as I think the better players can manipulate them well, but I do realize the utility of it and don't fault people for using it as reasoning.
 
Stagg737 said:
True, it's D1. But we don't have any lynch votes to look at yet, so it's like an extended D1 imo.

Feelz to me is voting just based off of tone of posts or just interactions between two people without comparing it to anything. I like either looking at vote/action patterns (if a person is claiming an ability) or comparing statements/reads on from early game to later in game. Imo the further into the game you get the less you should be using feels as reasoning for votes.

I don't particularly like using "metas" as reasoning either as I think the better players can manipulate them well, but I do realize the utility of it and don't fault people for using it as reasoning.
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Wolves have been caught before from mayor votes as they are just as, if not more strategic, than D1. Watch who people are pushing for mayor and why and how people respond to those votes. You spectated Bake, right?
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
I don't think I'm missing anything. I don't doubt that you RNG D1 each game. But that somehow you have rolled me 2/3 times, and I was ALREADY the leading lynch vote, mais c'est un grand coincidence, non?
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Yea, and last game I RNG'd someone who had just voted for me and people thought I was making a retaliation vote and it got me lynched. Like I said, I've got a neutral(ish) feel on you for now and could be persuaded to move my vote, but someone would have to give me a reason to or.

Animal Midwife said:
Wolves have been caught before from mayor votes as they are just as, if not more strategic, than D1. Watch who people are pushing for mayor and why and how people respond to those votes. You spectated Bake, right?
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I did, but all I really remember was that MJ was the chef (ended up being wolf I think?) and that Sporty managed to convince Capri and Paws that Moose was the wolf on LyLo.
 
The current candidates are listed in the 2nd Deck Lounge. Your Captains thank you for your assistance.

Day 2 Votes
SAR (3) - AM, genny, skimble
KC (1) - Coffeebean
DVMD () -
Bryndi (1) - dubz
Coffeebean (4) - jboo, Sobsob, bryndi, Stagg
pippy (1) - kcough
genny (1) - SAR
jboo (1) - dolph

12/16 passengers accounted for. Deadline in ~3 hours

Carry on with your business! Don't forget to check out the views.
giphy.gif
 
WildZoo said:
WIFOM incoming:
I straight up told Stagg he was going to continue to get heat for his RNG votes when it was discussed in dead chat in the Bicycle game. I feel like continuing to do it here despite that is fairly village.
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That's nice.

My feeling is that if he took half the effort he puts in to defending RNG votes at the end of D2, and put that into some analysis of the votes that have already occurred, he could probably already have a well-reasoned vote.

So from my perspective, it might be village, but it's not helping the village.
 
I am currently in a break from driving and am going to place a vote purely based on feels so I can respond to questions and such later when I hopefully get on again before lynch close.

Lynch jboo
 
dolphin106258 said:
I am currently in a break from driving and am going to place a vote purely based on feels so I can respond to questions and such later when I hopefully get on again before lynch close.

Lynch jboo
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What are your feels on jboo coming from?
 
SARdoghandler said:
To expand on those reads you've commented on: Dvmd may not have said much, but her D1/D2 contributions in this game are like 800% higher than usual (which for the past few games has been drop a lynch vote and peace, which I get because life). Of what she has said, I'm reading village. Most of my feels work that way, and one post is enough to trigger feels.
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Uh.... I'm usually fairly vocal, so not sure I'm agreeing with you on the I drop a vote and leave thing. But, sure, whatever you say.
 
LYnch Coffee?

Really not liking her reasoning today. Also looking at SAR for pushing at the mayor so early on as I assume someone will look into her soon enough. Didn't like some of kc's thoughts, but retalitory lynching usually seems more village then wolfy.

PippyPony said:
There is NO reason for an RNG vote right now. There has been a mayor vote, 2 night kills, and a full complement of people talking today. Side eye hard for this.
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Also agree with pippy. (Always slightly distrustful of pips, but am feeling okay so far with her)
 
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