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MarWWel -- GAME THREAD
Started by Doggo Labs
I know, thats what I meant. How are you feeling about him? He's been uncharacteristically agreeing with several of my comments, not sure if Im just doing an ok job or if theres something I should be concerned with.
I am concern.
Something just feels different about him. It’s not quite wolfy, I dunno.
On re read
I don’t like this post either
I have a busy day. I'll get my thoughts compiled later. Right now I'm looking the closest at True and Bob.
Would like to see more from genny though. Wheres gennys?
And obviously Breadrick.
Still unsure about Violet too.
I can see how people are seeing it they way they are, but is not that a pretty standard question for a noob who hasnt encountered that mechanic before? I still get confused myself on how 3p affect the numbers sometimes.
Truenamer
Toothy, Furry Villager
Deeply, deeply annoyed that I helped catch the one kind of wolf that doesn't get me any village credI have a busy day. I'll get my thoughts compiled later. Right now I'm looking the closest at True and Bob.
Would like to see more from genny though. Wheres gennys?
And obviously Breadrick.
Still unsure about Violet too.
True's interpretation is kind of the same thought I had about it. It could be this wild smoking gun, but more likely than not I feel like it's a noob comment misinterpreted.
No. She was a wolfy sidecar in Stardew.
I think it was a rojo.
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What is your read on Sporty?
The fact that you were making comments with 10 minutes to go about when he flipped village and a pack wouldn’t have known he was a wolf is a little sketchballs
I’m sticking to it
Yeet fluff
Yeet fluff
How did you feel about Fluff's fight with Barks?
She also made the comment about asking about parity before AM or Zenge said it was 3P and I would expect a noob to assume a wolf is a win. I think there was TMI and it was a rojo. I don’t think I’m going to be able to be pulled away from this.
The comment about parity came before any discussion of 3P was discussed, so why did she assume it was a 3P of some sort?
Truenamer
Toothy, Furry Villager
Though actually, I'm going to argue that the people involved in moving the vote away from the TME/Barks tie to Mel should get some credit. No one is confirmed village, but the chance of TME+Barks both being wolves who were voting for each other just feels so outlandish to me.
Here's how the Mel vote happened:
Assemble Yourselves Day 1 Vote Tally (#1223)
DubZ ()
samac ()
TME (5) - AM, Zenge, Mel, Barks, Bread
True (2) - genny, kdswg
Mel ()
Fluff (1) - samac
Sporty (1) - violet
Violet (2) - cubs, True
Barks (5) - DubZ, SAR, Sporty, fluff, TME
Zenge ()
cubs (1) - Dana
AM (1) - PSV
18/19
@TelemarketingEnigma + @Barkley13 - there can only be one winner
Missing: @BobLoblaw78
Vote closes at 10pm ET/9pm CT/7pm Fantasyland on Tuesday, 2/15/22 (~15 MINUTES)
Truenamer
Toothy, Furry Villager
She's been the same Anger!Sporty I'm used to from previous games, I guess? She doesn't feel different the way Mel did. But then, Dubz felt like Dubz last game and she was a woof the whole time.
I disagree. I don't think this is a credit situation. You can definitely village read people's overall efforts and progression to get to voting Mel but there's zero reason a wolf (or more) couldn't have been on that vote.
Truenamer
Toothy, Furry Villager
I will invite you to look at my voting track record last game. Maybe I should be more stern and tight-lipped about being anxious about misyeeting people, but I haven't been in the past.
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Truenamer
Toothy, Furry Villager
AM 85-90% to be villager btw 😉
I mean...does it feel outlandish partially because TME is dead and flipped village?
Why so eager to be that cleared all of the sudden? I thought you were trying to avoid NKs?
To be honest it didn’t stick out enough to me to remember it well
Truenamer
Toothy, Furry Villager
Because I've gotten more than enough shade for my taste and don't want to be misyoten
I'd like you to re-read the end of day fight and get back to be on your thoughts. Try and keep and open mind.
I’m gonna be hard pressed to get myself out of this one.
Truenamer
Toothy, Furry Villager
Also because I spent the entire last game killing villagers and want a scrap of acknowledgement for doing good :/
I just made that interpretation 2 posts before and you Liked it, but you avoid commenting on it now after I pointed out youd been agreeing with me a lot?
Edit: It was actually the same exact time. I just started typing it before I saw his post.
Were there lone wolves in StardeWW? A cult isnt the same thing as a lone wolf.
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Your comment was after True's. I quoted Samac. I quoted True. I started writing my own post. You commented between me writing my post and me hitting the post reply button. Seems odd to obsess over this.
Truenamer
Toothy, Furry Villager
Also, wait, I was reading the Mafia wiki and it looks like there are lone wolves and then lost wolves; Lost Wolves count toward the pack except they can't talk to them, and Lone Wolves are basically a 3P that wins when they're the last one standing. Mel was Lone, not Lost, right? Or do we not always use the same terms as that wiki?
It doesn't really matter because he's dead, I just want to clarify for future games.
Yes Lost wolves try to find the rest of the pack and when they do usually they become a part of it and go to wolf chat. A lone wolf is more 3P like in the sense that they have to survive until everyone else is gone.
Not always. Lone wolves can mean anything on SDN. I've even seen them have inclusive wins with the pack.
Not obsessing... it was... one... comment?
Truenamer
Toothy, Furry Villager
fight fight fight fight
village
barks
true
samac = dubz
AM
sheltervet
SAR
kdswg
genny
sporty
violet
bread
fluff
bob = cubs= zenge
wolfy
i went back and reread the thread while ignoring a physiology lecture haha
barks
true
samac = dubz
AM
sheltervet
SAR
kdswg
genny
sporty
violet
bread
fluff
bob = cubs= zenge
wolfy
i went back and reread the thread while ignoring a physiology lecture haha
my first thought was a vig shot (i know im not very experienced but you cant stop me from sharing my opinion!)
Truenamer
Toothy, Furry Villager
Why so much confidence in Barks? I agree and think she's village, just want to hear your reasoning
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i’ll totally admit i struggled with who to put at the top of the list. but i had to pick someone and my interpretation of what happened last night is that TME and barks were both village and we managed to see through that and yeet mel at the end. that interpretation of events is also what led to me giving other people like samac and dubz some village credit- so that’s why i thought barks should go at the top. i also believe bark’s role reveal.
Not good to assume, but if I had to guess it had something to do with Mel.
So me zenge and bob are the remaining wolves?
Also there was no NK. We dont know if any actions were actually blocked, night cancel, protection, etc. Maybe it had something to do with an early wolf pack kill, which makes less sense though, because TME wouldnt have been cleared and still had misyeet potential.
Truenamer
Toothy, Furry Villager
Thinking aloud:
Let's say he has something like "when you die, you can take someone with you." This would also explain the slightly longer delay between his yeeting and the writeup.
If so, who would he pick?
Picking TME might make sense if Mel's victory condition is just the wolves winning. If that's the case, he would want to pick someone he's pretty confident isn't also a wolf; and at least to me, TME looked like a prime misyeet waiting to happen.
If he had picked someone like Samac, AM, or me, it would be more obvious that it was revenge/collateral, whereas this way it leads to more confusion (which I assume is pro-woofs).
What early pack kill?
No. There weren’t. I’m speaking about 3P assumptions.
I have no idea why a noob village would immediately assume something flipping wolf would be 3P and if it is ask questions about parity when she knows how 3P would work towards parity.
this is my first time ever making it to day 2 as village, you'll never hear me say im 100% confident in my reads. i color coordinated them to show who im wolf reading most right now, but there's nothing saying those blue people cant become purple, or the greens cant become blue, etc. my reads have already changed a bit as the game has gone on. *ill also have you note i put fluff in the same color as yall
something that stood out to me upon reread is how you and zenge had a bit of a disagreement early on in the thread, and then there was a shift where zenge started agreeing with you. i dont think you're incompatible as wolves. and i just wasn't a fan of bob's responses to AM last night.
I dunno? True asked about tinfoils as to why TME died.
Truenamer
Toothy, Furry Villager
I'm building a cozy tinfoil hut, so I need to collect lots of tinfoil hats
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