MD vs. DO schools

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hopefulMD9 said:
How in the eff do people find this stuff! I never can......
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I use www.sidereel.com. Find the show you want to watch, select the episode you want, then click on "search links" and you try different links until you find one. Lots of annoying popups, and after a while you figure out which websites are reliable and which are not, but make sure you run a full virus scan often when using unfamiliar websites. You'll also realize there are tons of stupid things they try to get you to click on that you THINK start the show, but don't. Once you get it down though, you can find any show you want within 5 minutes.
 
abolt18 said:
I use www.sidereel.com. Find the show you want to watch, select the episode you want, then click on "search links" and you try different links until you find one. Lots of annoying popups, and after a while you figure out which websites are reliable and which are not, but make sure you run a full virus scan often when using unfamiliar websites. You'll also realize there are tons of stupid things they try to get you to click on that you THINK start the show, but don't. Once you get it down though, you can find any show you want within 5 minutes.
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Solid. Another reason i love sdn....random advice...
 
It seems as if I did skip the Carribean schools in my previous post. I've had the opportunity to meet many med students from all over the world in the last few years and if you're considering that route, I can only recommend SGU since it has every step of the way paved for you, from the classes with full immersion in the content (see their site for the details) and the prep courses and rules for taking Step 1 before you are able to go any further. Their class sizes are reasonable and they have a true set of Health and Psychological Services (which you will probably need somewhere in your medical career) as well as having someone on-site during the majority of your rotations, which have been set up for you well in advance. The cost is comparable to most DO schools and you do save a bit of money by having a lot of rotations in the same area, mostly the upper-East Coast. I can't stand NYC, but if you can weather the winters there, you may be alright. When you finish your education through SGU, you will have made all of the contacts in the area that are FMG and IMG friendly, so you're able to walk into interviews possibly knowing some of the people you'll see there already.

That being said, give it at least 2 rounds of app seasons to try for an MD school in the states, go to an OMED or House of Delegates meeting for DOs and get the atmosphere that you'd be getting into if you choose that route (somber and only a small angry and DRUNK group in attendance at each of them) and get into SGU if you're considering the Caribbean route. You should also check the SDN boards for a general idea of which routes have the most frustration along the way. I say the DO route, but n=1 and there are a lot of posters in each section.

That being said, ALL are respectable routes and you must be in the top third of your class in Clerkship grades and Step 1 scores to really open up doors that are usually closed to most students of any background. Failing USMLE Step 1 is the kiss of death for many programs, so do what you need to do to KILL that test above all else. Doing USMLEWorld over and over may seem ridiculous, but it's the one sure thing that's helped for all forms of the medical licensing exams. There's a whole other thread for that topic, so I'll leave it at that. I've done my research and am really trying to help. And yes, I tried to identify all of the viscera that came apart when they pulled that one zombie out of the well. Well done joke for the Walking Dead crew...
 
JeetKuneDo said:
Dude, not cool. Don't ruin it for those of us who haven't watched it yet bro.
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Crap. Sorry.

Hope you get time to watch! Wish we could start a thread somehow related. This one's bumming me out.
 
thepoopologist said:
While I despise my medical school experience, I'd like to point out that there are DO schools out there that will let you repeat M1 multiple times, will let you finish rotations and continually take your boards multiple times until you pass, and then when you can't find a residency for whatever reason, has an open primary care spot that you can take because all the good students went to the MD programs and DO residencies can only take DOs. This is what happens to a bottom of the barrel, 2.0 gpa, 400 COMLEX I and II after multiple tries, medical student. Is this a laughable standard for medical education? Yes it is, but if you're that bottom of the barrel student and you just graduated that residency where you saw one patient a day for three years you're now eligible for that $130,000 a year job as a physician and now you can pay off the $600,000 in medical school debt you've accumulated because you went to medical school for 7 years. A sad day for medicine? Yes, because this "physician" will indirectly and directly commit homicide for the remainder of his/her career, BUT no one failed his/her ass out and now there's a six figure income stream to eventually pay off their enormous debt.

The majority of students will not end up like the above example. They will go to MD residencies or DO residencies and practice competent medicine at minimum. But if you end up like the example above, going to a DO school was the best decision of your life because you're a physician despite failing numerous tests and spending the better part of the decade going to medical school. Scary for the patients? Yes, because some can't tell one white coat from another and their life will be shortened by the care this physician provides. But that physician will eat well and drive a decent car in due time, provided they aren't financially *****ic.
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Exhibit A: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showpost.php?p=13255405&postcount=40

5 total Step 1 attempts, with 1 pass = $2,500

5 total Step 2 attempts, score on the last attempt pending = $2,500

Still in medical school

I failed Step 1 twice when I realized something was wrong...
I was subsequently diagnosed with a learning disability and after applying for accommodations and denied a multitude of times (a wonderful case of disability apartheid) I had to proceed without accommodations.
I failed two more times before passing step 1.
I have failed step 2 four times and will be passing my next attempt in December...(the power of positive thinking)
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GypsyHummus said:
What are the schools that allow you to repeat years? You can PM me if you are worried about being anonymous.
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I don't have specific information on hand, but I'd peruse the student handbook at each school you interview. That should be enough to give you an idea.
 
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