Med student posing nude on reddit

[tantacles]

Why do people throw around the white knight word? It would be the same deal if it were a guy. Besides, I'm not into that team, so there is no desire for sexy time with a random girl who I will never see. As well as everyone on this forum

And remember, there are hundreds of med students who also do this stuff....so if you actually are angry at her for doing it, you are gonna be angry at more people. Hell, the girl sitting a row behind you in class could have post nude pictures too!

High five for zero unintended pregnancies. Abstinence is not the only way.

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[ToldYouSo]

A woman taking off her clothes does not make her anymore of an attention ***** than a medical student that spends 10-20+ hours a week posting on a student Doctors forums debating points. She is no more attention seeking than a blog writer or a person making youtube video's showing someone how to Dougie.

Let's be real... if posting on SDN got someone as much attention as posting naked photos on reddit than this site would be a lot more active.


I thought medicine by nature was a very conservative profession? If her posting those photos leads to some negative consequences down the line regarding her career, I wouldn't be surprised.

 

[tantacles]

hahah good for u white knights. It's a serious question. In the medical profession, you can't separate your personal life from professional life.

Sure you can. Try it out. It's great.

What's done in the bedroom should stay in the bedroom. I don't care if doctors do kinky stuff but it should be private not out for the public to see.

I'd rather they did it in public. That's more fun.

And it's not about ego, it's about social conventions, feel free to change them and live in your own little world. Some social conventions are not meant to be changed, would be the same if a guy posed naked, it's not about racism or sexism. Seriously some white knights in this thread. I would smash that sloot tho, no doubt.

The fact that something is a social convention doesn't make it right. And again, we're not arguing that her medical school COULDN'T expel her. We're arguing that it SHOULDN'T. This is one of those social conventions that IS meant to be changed. Sex shouldn't be taboo, and people should be able to post naked pictures of themselves on sites meant for adults without everyone going wild (get it?) about it.

 

[KnuxNole]

High five for zero unintended pregnancies. Abstinence is not the only way.

No Baby mama drama...nor forced trips to the Maury show

 

[tantacles]

Let's be real... if posting on SDN got someone as much attention as posting naked photos on reddit than this site would be a lot more active.

The fact that she's chosen a more effective way to attention grab than we have doesn't make her more of an attention *****. It just makes her a more effective one.

I thought medicine by nature was a very conservative profession? If her posting those photos leads to some negative consequences down the line regarding her career, I wouldn't be surprised.

Yeah, no one's arguing that there aren't consequences for posting crap online. The practical point is well-received and agreed with by all. We're arguing that those consequences are silly.

 

[tantacles]

No Baby mama drama...nor forced trips to the Maury show

Yeah, but I would go willingly.

 

[ToldYouSo]

The fact that she's chosen a more effective way to attention grab than we have doesn't make her more of an attention *****. It just makes her a more effective one.

I don't believe that most people post here to attention ***** in the first place.

Yeah, no one's arguing that there aren't consequences for posting crap online. The practical point is well-received and agreed with by all. We're arguing that those consequences are silly.

I agree with this

 

[NickNaylor]

The fact that she's chosen a more effective way to attention grab than we have doesn't make her more of an attention *****. It just makes her a more effective one.



Yeah, no one's arguing that there aren't consequences for posting crap online. The practical point is well-received and agreed with by all. We're arguing that those consequences are silly.

Depends on your profession IMO. I think posting nudes online is an extremely stupid decision as it's effectively irreversible, but if people want to do that go for it. I also agree that it shouldn't affect one's professional life for the most part. But what if you're in a field in which your public appearance is important to the performance of your duties (like, oh, I don't know, MEDICINE)? Sure, many people wouldn't care, but many probably would. How appropriate would it be if she were a pediatrician and her older patients found these?

If the woman were an attending rather than a med student, I wouldn't have any problem if she was fired over this. It brings unwanted attention to and compromises the professionalism of the entire practice. I do agree that dismissing her as a med student is extreme, though.

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[LakersWestSide]

Depends on your profession IMO. I think posting nudes online is an extremely stupid decision as it's effectively irreversible, but if people want to do that go for it. I also agree that it shouldn't affect one's professional life for the most part. But what if you're in a field in which your public appearance is important to the performance of your duties (like, oh, I don't know, MEDICINE)? Sure, many people wouldn't care, but many probably would. How appropriate would it be if she were a pediatrician and her older patients found these?

If the woman were an attending rather than a med student, I wouldn't have any problem if she was fired over this. It brings unwanted attention to and compromises the professionalism of the entire practice. I do agree that dismissing her as a med student is extreme, though.

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Well said. Medicine is a very public profession. Dismissing her would be extreme and wrong, but for people defending her I don't agree. I'm not judging her I don't know her; but her actions are very irresponsible and impulsive. I'm judging her maturity which as a medical professional is very important.

 

[LakersWestSide]

Sure you can. Try it out. It's great.



I'd rather they did it in public. That's more fun.



The fact that something is a social convention doesn't make it right. And again, we're not arguing that her medical school COULDN'T expel her. We're arguing that it SHOULDN'T. This is one of those social conventions that IS meant to be changed. Sex shouldn't be taboo, and people should be able to post naked pictures of themselves on sites meant for adults without everyone going wild (get it?) about it.

hahah I needed a good laugh. Actually, the society I live in doctors are seen with great respect and known to represent good values and ethics. If you like porn, feel free to post your pics as well but don't argue that it's right. Of course she shouldn't get expelled, that's ridiculous but what she did is wrong.

 

[tantacles]

hahah I needed a good laugh. Actually, the society I live in doctors are seen with great respect and known to represent good values and ethics. If you like porn, feel free to post your pics as well but don't argue that it's right. Of course she shouldn't get expelled, that's ridiculous but what she did is wrong.

Arguing that something isn't wrong is far different from arguing that it's right. I consider drinking not to be wrong, but I don't consider there to be anything inherently immoral about it. However, I don't think there's anything wrong with posting naked pictures online. Posting pictures online is completely unrelated to good values and ethics.

 

[LakersWestSide]

Arguing that something isn't wrong is far different from arguing that it's right. I consider drinking not to be wrong, but I don't consider there to be anything inherently immoral about it. However, I don't think there's anything wrong with posting naked pictures online. Posting pictures online is completely unrelated to good values and ethics.

Well not to get technical, I get your point and I disagree. It's poor judgement to post pics online of porn, definitely a character issue in a doctor.

 

[tantacles]

Depends on your profession IMO. I think posting nudes online is an extremely stupid decision as it's effectively irreversible, but if people want to do that go for it. I also agree that it shouldn't affect one's professional life for the most part.

No disagreement there. In this particular climate, posting pictures online is not a smart move.

But what if you're in a field in which your public appearance is important to the performance of your duties (like, oh, I don't know, MEDICINE)? Sure, many people wouldn't care, but many probably would. How appropriate would it be if she were a pediatrician and her older patients found these?

Yeah, again, I'm not making the case that people WON'T find her conduct inappropriate. I'm making the case that having nude pictures of yourself up doesn't hinder your providing medical care. Pediatrics is actually the field I'd worry the least about; again, the pictures were posted on an adult site, and a pediatrician treats children, not adults.

To be slightly more jocular about it, I'd worry more if she were a cardiologist, if you know what I mean.

If the woman were an attending rather than a med student, I wouldn't have any problem if she was fired over this. It brings unwanted attention to and compromises the professionalism of the entire practice. I do agree that dismissing her as a med student is extreme, though.

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I guess I just don't think that posting pictures of yourself in your spare time compromises professionalism. Physicians can have sex lives out of work, and the notion that they have to be so careful as to avoid attention from anyone, even people who choose to go on to a website with naked pictures on it and purposely look for naked pictures of women, will never be something I can agree with.

 

[NickNaylor]

I guess I just don't think that posting pictures of yourself in your spare time compromises professionalism. Physicians can have sex lives out of work, and the notion that they have to be so careful as to avoid attention from anyone, even people who choose to go on to a website with naked pictures on it and purposely look for naked pictures of women, will never be something I can agree with.

Yeah, I agree that it comes down to sensibilities. People that don't care about nudity or at least aren't bothered by it likely wouldn't care about this either (I'm in this group). However, I do think that seeing your physician naked - regardless of how (unless you're shacking up with them, but that's a completely different discussion) - diminishes the "professional" nature of the relationship a bit. No, it's not going to inhibit your diagnostic, prognostic, or therapeutic skills, but I think there's a reasonable case to be made that it could harm the doctor-patient relationship. In the same vein, I don't think a college professor posting nudes says anything about his/her ability as a teacher, but I absolutely believe it would have an impact on the relationship he/she can form with his/her students. Whether that's important or not depends on the person I suppose, but I don't think that posting nudes is completely benign. At best it's neutral. At worst it has a negative impact on the patient's ability to be comfortable around his/her physician.

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[tantacles]

Well not to get technical, I get your point and I disagree. It's poor judgement to post pics online of porn, definitely a character issue in a doctor.

It's only poor judgment in that it might get her fired for having poor judgment, which is circular reasoning. She posted her pictures in an appropriate forum where only people who are looking for naked pictures of women would look. People looking for pictures of cats or checking their stocks or communicating with relatives on Facebook won't find these pictures. You have to actively look for them.

 

[beBrave]

Well I actually viewed her reddit comments (which she actively participates in).This girl has been recognized various times. She has numerous reddit responses. According to her, everyone recognizes her. Her brothers friend actually showed him her pics and everywhere she goes, everyone who knows her has seen them. Check out the interview. She's does like the attention, but she is happily living with the ramifications of her actions. You still have to respect someone that can live their lives without caring what others think.

Wondering if he's just upset that he can't have her lol. Course that thought is prolly so deep seated he can't even acknowledge it if he tried.

This appears to be an ongoing theme in her life. I think Rendar5 nailed OP's problem. He may have even known her personally and thought that by hanging her out in a popular medical community, it would hurt her career. OP seemed very uncomfortable on a Med forum and then went as far as removing Medical Student from his status. He likely was someone out to get her, probably because he couldn't have her.

 

[tantacles]

Yeah, I agree that it comes down to sensibilities. People that don't care about nudity or at least aren't bothered by it likely wouldn't care about this either (I'm in this group). However, I do think that seeing your physician naked - regardless of how (unless you're shacking up with them, but that's a completely different discussion) - diminishes the "professional" nature of the relationship a bit. No, it's not going to inhibit your diagnostic, prognostic, or therapeutic skills, but I think there's a reasonable case to be made that it could harm the doctor-patient relationship. In the same vein, I don't think a college professor posting nudes says anything about his/her ability as a teacher, but I absolutely believe it would have an impact on the relationship he/she can form with his/her students. Whether that's important or not depends on the person I suppose, but I don't think that posting nudes is completely benign. At best it's neutral. At worst it has a negative impact on the patient's ability to be comfortable around his/her physician.

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I'm happy to just say that I disagree with you on some minor but not wholly irrelevant points with no further argument. You've summed up the underlying social issue pretty well and made it clear that you understand that it's context and not content that is really the problem, so we can both win this one.

 

[LakersWestSide]

It's only poor judgment in that it might get her fired for having poor judgment, which is circular reasoning. She posted her pictures in an appropriate forum where only people who are looking for naked pictures of women would look. People looking for pictures of cats or checking their stocks or communicating with relatives on Facebook won't find these pictures. You have to actively look for them.

Still, point being that it's public. None of us were actively looking for her pictures but now we know about it. She should have known that what's on the internet can instantly become public hence poor judgement on her part.

 

[ijn]

There's nothing brave about this. She probably has some really ****ed up psychiatric history to lead to such disinhibited behavior and abnormal sexual fetishism. I'd have a field day with her on my private consult couch.

Called it. You're welcome.

From that interview link:

... This lax attitude toward nudity stems from, Nina said, her traumatic childhood. She was sexually abused by a relative for years, and in late 2007, she was roofied at a party and left for dead in a stairwell, an experience she doesn't remember but, she said, has fundamentally changed her.

Bet she's bipolar and/or borderline too.

 

[LakersWestSide]

It's sad to read about her sexual abuse history. That's why all these guys says it's ok what she's doing, I disagree. It's a result of her psych issues, she should seek treatment and improve her decision making. Have to respect her for having the strength and courage to get to where she is, no easy task getting into med school and tugging along.

 

[tantacles]

Yeah, I agree that it comes down to sensibilities. People that don't care about nudity or at least aren't bothered by it likely wouldn't care about this either (I'm in this group). However, I do think that seeing your physician naked - regardless of how (unless you're shacking up with them, but that's a completely different discussion) - diminishes the "professional" nature of the relationship a bit. No, it's not going to inhibit your diagnostic, prognostic, or therapeutic skills, but I think there's a reasonable case to be made that it could harm the doctor-patient relationship. In the same vein, I don't think a college professor posting nudes says anything about his/her ability as a teacher, but I absolutely believe it would have an impact on the relationship he/she can form with his/her students. Whether that's important or not depends on the person I suppose, but I don't think that posting nudes is completely benign. At best it's neutral. At worst it has a negative impact on the patient's ability to be comfortable around his/her physician.

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Oh, and I suppose I was looking for a way to say this. The underlying problem with saying "It might make patients hate me!" is that this opens up avenues to fire people for things like, for example, being homosexual. Anyone could, feasibly, come across my partner and me holding hands in the street (not in the slightest a sexual gesture) and object to it so vehemently that it damages the professional relationship and thus makes me a "worse doctor." I don't think that's too far a leap from the current situation, where people are really objecting to her behavior not because it's inherently wrong (ignoring Laker, because there's obviously some sort of moral argument he's making that's completely lost on me) or affects actual patient care, but they object because of prejudice. In my case, because I'm openly gay on the street, but in her case, because she is sexually open on the internet.

In addition, what if someone took nude pictures of her without her consent and posted them on the internet? Her naked pictures are still there and still might affect the doctor-patient relationship. Is she still open to scrutiny in that case? She may not be able to prove that she didn't give consent, but that doesn't mean that she did give consent. And in this case, it's pretty clear that the poster is the one taking the pictures, but the argument still remains.

I mean, I definitely understand that we have an important relationship to maintain with our patients, but many things can interfere with that relationship, some beyond our control.

 

[deleted307836]

I think the point about her advertising her status as a med student is an interesting one (again, assuming it's real) vs not bringing attention to it.

What if she were posing nude in a white coat, or with a stethoscope? Would that change anything?

 

[circulus vitios]

it means analdynia s/p phallic trauma

 

[agates85]

Edit: she's still posting stuff.

 

[beBrave]

Anyone with enough time to concern themselves with the way this woman lives her life needs to have a look at their own.

 

[jw3600]

You are being judgemental.

Is this hypocrisy going to go unaddressed?

 

[kedrin]

Called it. You're welcome.

From that interview link:


Bet she's bipolar and/or borderline too.

I gotta say you did call it pretty well.

 

[Medstudent1968]

Dude you have no idea. Working outpatient psychiatry gives you so many ins with hot bat **** crazy 20 something bipolar chicks. Third year is best year.

You're an idiot. Trying to sleep with your patients is such a horrible transgression that you shouldn't even joke about it. You would get torn a new a******.

On another note, posting nudes of yourself online is not very wise and pretty hard to defend here.

 

[calvnandhobbs68]

Anyone with enough time to concern themselves with the way this woman lives her life needs to have a look at their own.

You mean like someone with every single post from the past two days on this thread...oh wait that's you.

 

[Dwindlin]

lol yeah I bet ALL the 14 year olds are scared away by the "Are you 18 or older?" question.

So are you suggesting it shouldn't be allowed on the net because some 14 year old might see it? Go ahead and take that to its logical conclusion. She did nothing illegal. She harmed no one. If people would feel uncomfortable going to her as a provider so be it, that's is fine, and their right. But this is no business of "the profession" as a whole, and we have no right to police what people do in their free time no matter how public they are about it.

 

[calvnandhobbs68]

So are you suggesting it shouldn't be allowed on the net because some 14 year old might see it? Go ahead and take that to its logical conclusion. She did nothing illegal. She harmed no one. If people would feel uncomfortable going to her as a provider so be it, that's is fine, and their right. But this is no business of "the profession" as a whole, and we have no right to police what people do in their free time no matter how public they are about it.

What? Don't remember saying that anywhere. Unwad your panties bro.

I just found it funny that the guy thought no adolescents would see the pictures because it's on an "adult" site.

 

[beBrave]

You mean like someone with every single post from the past two days on this thread...oh wait that's you.

You're right but I have spent the last few days defending a persons right to not be judged. "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

 

[ToldYouSo]

So are you suggesting it shouldn't be allowed on the net because some 14 year old might see it? Go ahead and take that to its logical conclusion.

How you came up with that conclusion is beyond me.

You're right but I have spent the last few days defending a persons right to not be judged. "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

You're getting way too metaphysical about this

 

[beBrave]

How you came up with that conclusion is beyond me.



You're getting way too metaphysical about this

Probably, but I hate when people pick on others. Standing back and keeping your mouth shut while a lynch mob goes on the attack is not my style. I rather people bash me for getting too involved than sit back and keep my mouth shut. A person that knows better but does nothing is just as bad as those involved.

 

[tantacles]

Probably, but I hate when people pick on others. Standing back and keeping your mouth shut while a lynch mob goes on the attack is not my style. I rather people bash me for getting too involved than sit back and keep my mouth shut. A person that knows better but does nothing is just as bad as those involved.

Oh you almost forgot another important repercussion: Everyone calling you a white knight as if sticking up for any female that's being unfairly treated is somehow just a chauvinistic sexual interlude. What a tiresome "insult," no?

 

[Dwindlin]

What? Don't remember saying that anywhere. Unwad your panties bro.

I just found it funny that the guy thought no adolescents would see the pictures because it's on an "adult" site.

Fair enough.

 

[ijn]

You're an idiot. Trying to sleep with your patients is such a horrible transgression that you shouldn't even joke about it. You would get torn a new a******.

Yea, well you know, that's just like your opinion, man.

 

[tantacles]

lol yeah I bet ALL the 14 year olds are scared away by the "Are you 18 or older?" question.

They definitely are not. I know from personal experience.

 

[JP2740]

Yea, well you know, that's just like your opinion, man.

I'll tell you what I'm blabbering about. I got information man

 

[beBrave]

Oh you almost forgot another important repercussion: Everyone calling you a white knight as if sticking up for any female that's being unfairly treated is somehow just a chauvinistic sexual interlude. What a tiresome "insult," no?

Indeed. I think some of these little boys throwing insults didn't get the love they needed from their mommies so now they take it out on every woman. Btw Happy Mothers Day!

 

[Anastomoses]

Oh, that's what white knight means? That's so stupid. If a male person defends a position held by an individual who happens to be a female person he is at risk of being branded? Gets called a "white knight"? Is throwing this term around supposed to make guys afraid to stand up for an idea if it is held by a female? Weird.

 

[beBrave]

Oh, that's what white knight means? That's so stupid. If a male person defends a position held by an individual who happens to be a female person he is at risk of being branded? Gets called a "white knight"? Is throwing this term around supposed to make guys afraid to stand up for an idea if it is held by a female? Weird.

It often implies that the guy is overly chivalrous; thinking that he can ride in and save the female; its a term also used in business. Some guys really hate women. They will sleep with them, manipulate them but God knows they hate them.

 

[tiedyeddog]

I bet a lot of these little white knights coming to her defense are the same 1s that would be hating on a guy for posing naked, since it's big breasts they are mesmerized....lol they probably haven't been getting any, sry folks, step ur game up.

Go back to misc, brah.

 

[tantacles]

Go back to misc, brah.

 

[JP2740]

It often implies that the guy is overly chivalrous; thinking that he can ride in and save the female; its a term also used in business. Some guys really hate women. They will sleep with them, manipulate them but God knows they hate them.

lol actually, guys who are the "wk" type usually are the ones that chicks are not into. nice guys finish last.

#womanlogic

 

[tantacles]

lol actually, guys who are the "wk" type usually are the ones that chicks are not into. nice guys finish last.

#womanlogic

Right, this is the logic that states that any man who does anything nice for a woman automatically deserves to have sex with her just for being the bare minimum: Not a total douchetard. "Nice guys" really do finish last.

#niceguylogic

 

[beBrave]

lol actually, guys who are the "wk" type usually are the ones that chicks are not into. nice guys finish last.

#womanlogic

Nah, the term nice guy is used by women to describe manipulative guys who do things simply hoping to sleep with them or guys that lack the ability to escalate in a relationship. Hence nice girls also exist that will seemingly attempt to keep a relationship going but lacks the emotional maturity to progress further in a relationship. Nice guys and nice girls are simply people who have trouble being honest with others and themselves. If you notice, guys that get girls are the ones that are able to express their emotions and not afraid to ask for what they want but also know how not to over share or overwhelm their companions. Over sharing usually happens because nice guys and girls often carry deep insecurities and emotional baggage that bleed into other areas of their lives (especially relationships).

 

[username456789]

I used one of my r/gonewild pics for my ERAS photo. Pretty sure it's the only reason I matched into Derm.

 

[throwaway2evry1]

Hi,

So I am Nina. I was alerted to this thread from a really nice guy on Reddit. I have read through most of the comments and while I was implored by a friend not to comment, I just wanted to say a few things:

I'm sorry that I've offended so many of you. I never intended to do so. I don't want to bring shame upon the medical professional or my school. I wasn't viewing it from that perspective. Looking back at it I never should have revealed my status as a medical student, but in all fairness I never anticipated the article would be picked up by the Daily Mail. It was originally intended only for the site the dailydot.com.

For those of you that didn't vilify me, thanks a lot. A couple of the supposed "white knights" over here really moved me. Maybe if I don't expelled, we can be colleagues one day.

Good luck to everyone with their studies!

 

[GUH]

Kids are not the only ones that want to do that. letsbeserious

aye