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I wore a J ferrar suit from JCPenney that I paid about 150 for including minor alteration. The shirt I bought for 20 and the tie for 15. I had shoes. I was strapped for cash and it worked okay with me. I realized that it wasn't going to last me forever. Also, this was really my first time buying the "big boy" aka adult clothing so I wasn't sure about brands and what fit me well, I'm getting better at it now but keep in mind no two people look the same in a shirt or suit.

Men's Wearhouse is a great place to get a suit during a sale and so is Jos A Bank. I know at MW they were super helpful and followed the same general rules that are posted in this thread (because they ARE the rules).
 
Here are a couple pics from another forum. You should be aiming to look like these guys. The more I see the more I like Navy.
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What is everyone's opinion on french cuffs vs normal ones? And what about shirts that are colored yet have the white collar. I am not sure what to make of these as to whether they are classier looking or plain weird...
 
What is everyone's opinion on french cuffs vs normal ones? And what about shirts that are colored yet have the white collar. I am not sure what to make of these as to whether they are classier looking or plain weird...

French cuffs are classy but way too formal. I actually like French cuffs when done on shirts with playful patterns like ginghams and checks because it offsets the seriousness of the pattern. It also depends on how gawdy the cufflinks are. White and light blue with cufflinks should be reserved for very important meetings/weddings, etc.

The contrast collar is super stupid. It should only be worn by the incredibly wealthy and requires a business title like CEO, COO, CFO, etc. Young people with contrast collars = weird or unfamiliar with the etiquette/history of the contrast collar. If you have to always remind people that you're a white collar, then you're trying too hard. Even among the incredibly wealthy who dress well, contrast collars are avoided for their history. There is also an age limit when it comes to contrast collars since a young person in a contrast collar is probably not established enough to wear it and will generally be frowned upon by his elders as posing/faking/pretending.

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Reminding others that you're white collar is also classist. You should try to be collar blind.
 
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French cuffs are classy but way too formal. I actually like French cuffs when done on shirts with playful patterns like ginghams and checks because it offsets the seriousness of the pattern. It also depends on how gawdy the cufflinks are. White and light blue with cufflinks should be reserved for very important meetings/weddings, etc.

The contrast collar is super stupid. It should only be worn by the incredibly wealthy and requires a business title like CEO, COO, CFO, etc. Young people with contrast collars = weird or unfamiliar with the etiquette/history of the contrast collar. If you have to always remind people that you're a white collar, then you're trying too hard. Even among the incredibly wealthy who dress well, contrast collars are avoided for their history.

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Thanks for the explanation! So the french cuffs are a no-no for interview attire then? I figured that is where I could throw in a little class without overkilling it and becoming that arrogant guy in the waiting room. :laugh:
 
What is everyone's opinion on french cuffs vs normal ones? And what about shirts that are colored yet have the white collar. I am not sure what to make of these as to whether they are classier looking or plain weird...


I actually really like french cuffs, and some of my favorite shirts are double cuffs. (Some of my favorite shirt makers only make double cuffs, but that's a different topic.) I wore french cuffs to my interviews this past season and I don't think it was at all a faux pas. Granted, my shirts weren't very conservative so they didn't come off as being extremely formal. If you do, I recommend using relatively simple cufflinks.

I'm actually a little bit surprised that captainnerd disagrees with me on this, given his love of English styles and products. Double cuffs are pretty standard across the pond.

I really hate the contrast collars though. Don't do that.
 
:idea: How about a toga? Think about it there is nothing classier than a toga. The modern suit has been around for what maybe 200yrs tops, the toga on the other hand was around for a couple hundred of years, if not thousands, we even have parties to celebrate its classiness. Time=classy therefore wear a toga. BRING TOGAS BACK!! 😀
 
:idea: How about a toga? Think about it there is nothing classier than a toga. The modern suit has been around for what maybe 200yrs tops, the toga on the other hand was around for a couple hundred of years, if not thousands, we even have parties to celebrate its classiness. Time=classy therefore wear a toga. BRING TOGAS BACK!! 😀

Thanks *******
 
I'm actually a little bit surprised that captainnerd disagrees with me on this, given his love of English styles and products. Double cuffs are pretty standard across the pond.

I do like French cuffs. Just not to interviews. Also, French cuffs require a graduate degree in dressing well that is not suitable for recommendation on a website that is for pre-doctors. I'd hate to see students come in with overly baggy suits that are too long in the arms, shirts too big, tie too long, and FRENCH CUFFS? It's also very hard to find classy cufflinks that aren't made of a precious metal. Cufflinks makers know the market they're producing for and are always trying to make the gawdiest things possible. I recommend mother of pearl, glass, and stone/ceramic to tone things down. Jade also looks good.

The Europeans are so accustomed to dressing well that they wouldn't bat an eye at French cuffs. In America, French cuffs get stares and queries of "what's that? Ooooh, shiny."

I like how people find it funny to post something like "how about a toga?" Or "how about bugs bunny tie?" Or "what about Air Force Ones?" As someone who used to write for the school humor magazine in undergrad, it always amazes me how people think they're funny. And did that guy register a whole new account just for that? He saw a thread about interview attire and said "oh wow, I don't have an account but I have this really funny joke about togas that's gonna leave them in stitches (pardon the clothing pun). Quick, sign me up!"

PS. The frat boy who came up with togas would never be clever enough to come up with the stitches pun. That was my idea. He didn't actually think that. I might have made him seem too intelligent there. My apologies.
 
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I do like French cuffs. Just not to interviews. Also, French cuffs require a graduate degree in dressing well that is not suitable for recommendation on a website that is for pre-doctors. I'd hate to see students come in with overly baggy suits that are too long in the arms, shirts too big, tie too long, and FRENCH CUFFS? It's also very hard to find classy cufflinks that aren't made of a precious metal. Cufflinks makers know the market they're producing for and are always trying to make the gawdiest things possible. I recommend mother of pearl, glass, and stone/ceramic to tone things down. Jade also looks good.

The Europeans are so accustomed to dressing well that they wouldn't bat an eye at French cuffs. In America, French cuffs get stares and queries of "what's that? Ooooh, shiny."

I like how people find it funny to post something like "how about a toga?" Or "how about bugs bunny tie?" Or "what about Air Force Ones?" As someone who used to write for the school humor magazine in undergrad, it always amazes me how people think they're funny. And did that guy register a whole new account just for that? He saw a thread about interview attire and said "oh wow, I don't have an account but I have this really funny joke about togas that's gonna leave them in stitches (pardon the clothing pun). Quick, sign me up!"

PS. The frat boy who came up with togas would never be clever enough to come up with the stitches pun. That was my idea. He didn't actually think that. I might have made him seem too intelligent there. My apologies.
:laugh: lol at your arrogance in this thread. You wrote for your school humor magazine?? OMGZ! Doesn't that make you an expert in wit and comedy.
 
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I do like French cuffs. Just not to interviews. Also, French cuffs require a graduate degree in dressing well that is not suitable for recommendation on a website that is for pre-doctors. I'd hate to see students come in with overly baggy suits that are too long in the arms, shirts too big, tie too long, and FRENCH CUFFS? It's also very hard to find classy cufflinks that aren't made of a precious metal. Cufflinks makers know the market they're producing for and are always trying to make the gawdiest things possible. I recommend mother of pearl, glass, and stone/ceramic to tone things down. Jade also looks good.

The Europeans are so accustomed to dressing well that they wouldn't bat an eye at French cuffs. In America, French cuffs get stares and queries of "what's that? Ooooh, shiny."

I like how people find it funny to post something like "how about a toga?" Or "how about bugs bunny tie?" Or "what about Air Force Ones?" As someone who used to write for the school humor magazine in undergrad, it always amazes me how people think they're funny. And did that guy register a whole new account just for that? He saw a thread about interview attire and said "oh wow, I don't have an account but I have this really funny joke about togas that's gonna leave them in stitches (pardon the clothing pun). Quick, sign me up!"

PS. The frat boy who came up with togas would never be clever enough to come up with the stitches pun. That was my idea. He didn't actually think that. I might have made him seem too intelligent there. My apologies.


You're right, that would be the most likely end result.
 
:laugh: lol at your arrogance in this thread. You wrote for your school humor magazine?? OMGZ! Doesn't that make you an expert in wit and comedy.

Air Forces Ones with a suit. Compared to that, nothing is funny to you. It's like having to deal with girls once you've already had sex with a supermodel.

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Check out the Chunk on the right. Not so bad compared to the guy in the yarn. That's a sick camo pattern too. This trend is gonna hit the US in about a year. Cause it always starts in Japan first. Do you think these three guys are in a group? They're sitting awfully close to one another. And middle guy has a scarf in the same camo pattern in different colors.

Air Force Ones with a suit is like adding multi-colored silhouettes of children holding hands to a cloak.
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"HEEY YOU GUUUUYS, who wants to burn some crosses?!?! It's gonna be FAAAAAB-U-LUS!"
 
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My hopes are hinging on every other male applicant spending more time obsessively posting about what they're going to wear to their interviews than on preparing for the interviews themselves. 🙂

I've been a member of SDN since around starting college-- I think I see about 10x more discussion re: this topic than on anything relating to national healthcare policy, biomedical ethics, or the pros/cons of different learning modalities and the differences between instruction/assessment at schools or how to discuss the weaker points of one's application. (Which seems like it'd be more relevant for an interview?)

Oh, for what it's worth: brightly-colored argyle socks FTW.
 
My hopes are hinging on every other male applicant spending more time obsessively posting about what they're going to wear to their interviews than on preparing for the interviews themselves. 🙂

Yeah, shouldn't you guys be practicing how to tell lies or making up stories about how you gained so much insight into your own life when you volunteered at that homeless shelter and how that one homeless lady reminds you so much of your own mom and how she struggled to keep you off the streets of Long Beach?
 
Air Forces Ones with a suit. Compared to that, nothing is funny to you. It's like having to deal with girls once you've already had sex with a supermodel.

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Check out the Chunk on the right. Not so bad compared to the guy in the yarn. That's a sick camo pattern too. This trend is gonna hit the US in about a year. Cause it always starts in Japan first. Do you think these three guys are in a group? They're sitting awfully close to one another. And middle guy has a scarf in the same camo pattern in different colors.

Air Force Ones with a suit is like adding multi-colored silhouettes of children holding hands to a cloak.
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"HEEY YOU GUUUUYS, who wants to burn some crosses?!?! It's gonna be FAAAAAB-U-LUS!"

lol you crack yourself up, you hipster, you.
 
I do like French cuffs. Just not to interviews. Also, French cuffs require a graduate degree in dressing well that is not suitable for recommendation on a website that is for pre-doctors. I'd hate to see students come in with overly baggy suits that are too long in the arms, shirts too big, tie too long, and FRENCH CUFFS? It's also very hard to find classy cufflinks that aren't made of a precious metal. Cufflinks makers know the market they're producing for and are always trying to make the gawdiest things possible. I recommend mother of pearl, glass, and stone/ceramic to tone things down. Jade also looks good.

The Europeans are so accustomed to dressing well that they wouldn't bat an eye at French cuffs. In America, French cuffs get stares and queries of "what's that? Ooooh, shiny."

I like how people find it funny to post something like "how about a toga?" Or "how about bugs bunny tie?" Or "what about Air Force Ones?" As someone who used to write for the school humor magazine in undergrad, it always amazes me how people think they're funny. And did that guy register a whole new account just for that? He saw a thread about interview attire and said "oh wow, I don't have an account but I have this really funny joke about togas that's gonna leave them in stitches (pardon the clothing pun). Quick, sign me up!"

PS. The frat boy who came up with togas would never be clever enough to come up with the stitches pun. That was my idea. He didn't actually think that. I might have made him seem too intelligent there. My apologies.


How about the arrogance of pointing out your own pun? Oh, I mean THANK YOU BECAUSE NO ONE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN IT IF YOU DIDN'T POINT IT OUT FOR US. DAMN YOU ALMOST SNUCK ONE BY US, MR. WIT.

You aren't funny in the slightest. Frat boy? What the **** is this the 1970s? Are all frat guys huge, dumb jocks that pick on all the computer science majors too? Hope they don't throw food at the CS major while he's in the cafeteria and proceed to laugh and high-five their buddies.

The audacity to point out that someone else isn't funny either based on a single 10 word response in an online forum just shows how pretentious you really are. You need to seriously reflect on your own sense of humor. Wow, air force 1s and a toga ... this must be the response they've been thinking of FOR YEARS! JUST WAITING TO USE IT! No, they responded with an innocent piece of text not meant to cause an uproar of laughter, just a quick, imaginative scenario you'd smile at and forget about in 5 seconds.

School humor magazine? Please post a story you wrote for it (as I'm sure there's TON considering you wrote for it somewhat frequently as you're insinuating), I'd love to have a good laugh. :lame:
 
How about the arrogance of pointing out your own pun? Oh, I mean THANK YOU BECAUSE NO ONE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN IT IF YOU DIDN'T POINT IT OUT FOR US. DAMN YOU ALMOST SNUCK ONE BY US, MR. WIT.

You aren't funny in the slightest. Frat boy? What the **** is this the 1970s? Are all frat guys huge, dumb jocks that pick on all the computer science majors too? Hope they don't throw food at the CS major while he's in the cafeteria and proceed to laugh and high-five their buddies.

The audacity to point out that someone else isn't funny either based on a single 10 word response in an online forum just shows how pretentious you really are. You need to seriously reflect on your own sense of humor. Wow, air force 1s and a toga ... this must be the response they've been thinking of FOR YEARS! JUST WAITING TO USE IT! No, they responded with an innocent piece of text not meant to cause an uproar of laughter, just a quick, imaginative scenario you'd smile at and forget about in 5 seconds.

School humor magazine? Please post a story you wrote for it (as I'm sure there's TON considering you wrote for it somewhat frequently as you're insinuating), I'd love to have a good laugh. :lame:

uh oh, I've angered another frat boy who clicked on a thread looking for clothing advice only to find anti-toga propaganda...I find it hard to imagine he got all worked up over a comment about togas. Maybe it was something I said against khakis, a blue blazer, regimental ties, and Sperry Top-Siders.
 
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How about the arrogance of pointing out your own pun? Oh, I mean THANK YOU BECAUSE NO ONE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN IT IF YOU DIDN'T POINT IT OUT FOR US. DAMN YOU ALMOST SNUCK ONE BY US, MR. WIT.

You aren't funny in the slightest. Frat boy? What the **** is this the 1970s? Are all frat guys huge, dumb jocks that pick on all the computer science majors too? Hope they don't throw food at the CS major while he's in the cafeteria and proceed to laugh and high-five their buddies.

The audacity to point out that someone else isn't funny either based on a single 10 word response in an online forum just shows how pretentious you really are. You need to seriously reflect on your own sense of humor. Wow, air force 1s and a toga ... this must be the response they've been thinking of FOR YEARS! JUST WAITING TO USE IT! No, they responded with an innocent piece of text not meant to cause an uproar of laughter, just a quick, imaginative scenario you'd smile at and forget about in 5 seconds.

School humor magazine? Please post a story you wrote for it (as I'm sure there's TON considering you wrote for it somewhat frequently as you're insinuating), I'd love to have a good laugh. :lame:

LOL so true. CaptainNerd reminds me of that girl "Juno" from the movie of the same name. Juno thinks shes such a hipster and witty person that's just way to cool for school, but in reality she just comes across as a tool to everyone else (if you aren't a teenage girl, that is).
 
LOL so true. CaptainNerd reminds me of that girl "Juno" from the movie of the same name. Juno thinks shes such a hipster and witty person that's just way to cool for school, but in reality she just comes across as a tool to everyone else (if you aren't a teenage girl, that is).

Uh oh, I've also angered Mr. Air Force One. But more importantly, I've brought together two cultures: an Indian American who partakes in the hip hop "culture" that is the Air Force Ones and a frat boy who understands the sensibilities of the toga. They said it wouldn't be possible. Like protestant and catholic irish, like Jews and Palestinians, like nuoc mam and BBQ sauce. But alas, it is done. The Brotha and the Brah are united at last.

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Did you watch Juno while wearing your Air Force Ones? Did you cry during parts of it? Awwww, it's okay. Deep down inside, we all have a soft spot.
 
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Uh oh, I've also angered Mr. Air Force One. But more importantly, I've brought together two cultures: an Indian American who partakes in the hip hop "culture" that is the Air Force Ones and a frat boy who understands the sensibilities of the toga. They said it wouldn't be possible. Like protestant and catholic irish, like Jews and Palestinians, like nuoc mam and BBQ sauce. But alas, it is done. The Brotha and the Brah are united at last.

Did you watch Juno while wearing your Air Force Ones? Did you cry during parts of it? Awwww, it's okay. Deep down inside, we all have a soft spot.

Lol, the ego in this thread is astounding.
 
^^I think he's pretty damn funny. The ego seems to only extend as far as knocking a hideous pair of Nikes, which is fine by me. He's also doled out a fair amount of solid advice.
 
^^ The advice is on how to dress. Personally, and I think most people can relate to me here, I've been dressing myself since Kindergarten. If I haven't got it figured out by now, a thread on a medical forum isn't going to help.
 
^^ The advice is on how to dress. Personally, and I think most people can relate to me here, I've been dressing myself since Kindergarten. If I haven't got it figured out by now, a thread on a medical forum isn't going to help.

After seeing posts in this thread, the previous interview clothing thread, and the many pre-meds interviewing at my school, I'd say it is safe to say that very few on this forum know how to dress themselves properly for an interview.

If you don't like the thread, then you don't have to post in it - life rarely presents such simple solutions, so try to appreciate that you have such luxury.
 
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After seeing posts in this thread, the previous interview clothing thread, and the many pre-meds interviewing at my school, I'd say it is safe to say that very few on this forum know how to dress themselves properly for an interview.

If you don't like the thread, then you don't have to post in it - life rarely presents such simple solutions, so try to appreciate that you have such luxury.
Agreed. I <3 captainnerd.
 
Captainnerd gives great advice on how to dress properly. He is also very entertaining, literate, and intelligent. So don't let the proletariat, the unwashed masses, take over this thread.
 
Captainnerd gives great advice on how to dress properly. He is also very entertaining, literate, and intelligent. So don't let the proletariat, the unwashed masses, take over this thread.

Personally, I think that <80% of this forum, doesn't have any form of wealth. Well... maybe a "wealth" of debt.
 
^^ The advice is on how to dress. Personally, and I think most people can relate to me here, I've been dressing myself since Kindergarten. If I haven't got it figured out by now, a thread on a medical forum isn't going to help.

If it wasn't for people on another forum recognizing the mess that is the unwashed proles (including doctors and pre-med students), this thread would have continued to be a suppository of bad advice and your statement that a thread on a medical forum isn't going to help would be true.

And yet, you clicked on the thread (only to check things out right? God knows you've been dressing yourself since kindergarten and you haven't worn a pair of pants with two legs in one pantleg). And you will probably ignore the advice and your self prophecy that advice on a medical forum won't help will probably hold true.

In fact, it is the idea that people dress themselves that is the problem. There is nothing individual about business attire. Your job is to fall in line with society. No interviewer wants a rebel applicant who is going to come into this prized institution and start changing things up.

The funny thing about how people dress is a result of being around people your own age. As a kindergartener, you looked around and said "yeah, I look like every other 5 year old." In middle school, in your baggy jeans and A/X shirt, you looked around and said "yeah, that's about right." In college, you looked like every other GAP consumer classmate your age. Then you enter the work world or grad/post bac school where you actually have to interact with 60 year old professors who will also be your colleagues and you realize, "I don't look like them. Why is it that I look like a schmuck?"

It's because you've been dressing with everyone in your age group, who doesn't know any better. You might as well learn at a young age that you're getting old and that you will live more years as a professional than you have experienced as a student. You might as well start investing in good clothes and understand the etiquette of dressing proper.
 
Can we get back to clothes?

Captain, what do you think of these manufacturers: Chaps-Ralph Lauren&#8206;&#8206;, Hickery Freeman, Hart Schaffner & Marx&#8206;&#8206;? A well-regarded tailor in town sells these brands and I'm thinking of picking one up (since I don't have time for Savile Row or China).

Thanks for all your helpful comments.
 
Personally, I think that <80% of this forum, doesn't have any form of wealth. Well... maybe a "wealth" of debt.

If you see the stupid things Americans consume, then yes. They have debt. But look at all the things they have!
 
Captain, what do you think of these manufacturers: Chaps-Ralph Lauren&#8206;&#8206;, Hickery Freeman, Hart Schaffner & Marx&#8206;&#8206;? A well-regarded tailor in town sells these brands and I'm thinking of picking one up (since I don't have time for Savile Row or China).

Thanks for all your helpful comments.

I actually don't know much about brands when it comes to suits. I've always stressed fit and that means when you buy anything, it won't be the final product you wear. It is more important to know a good tailor than to know a good brand (at this stage of your life). Go on Yelp and find a good tailor first. Then before buying a suit, go to the tailor and tell him your story, that you're a pre-med student, that you'll be buying a suit for interviews and that you would like to be measured so that you can buy a suit that fits well. And tell him you saw him on Yelp, this will show him that you did your research and that you came to him for his reputation and not just to get measured. After said purchase, you'll take the suit to him to have it tailored (tell him this too to reassure that you're not just using him to get measured).

If he is polite and listens, he is a good tailor.

The problem with knowing brands is that most of these companies never tell you anything about anything. They won't tell you how their suits are constructed, who and where they sourced their fabric, what country it was made in (or where the fabric was made, which is different from where the sheep lived). The result of globalization is that they have to make a product cheaper. In the end, you might as well buy whichever is cheaper since you'll be buying a mass produced product designed and engineered by businessmen, not craftsmen.

In the end, all those brands are about the same is what I'm getting at (normalized for price, I mean). The businessmen figured out a price point, determined how to get the suit at that price point, and then they made the product. Every other company went thru the same process and will eventually arrive at the same product.

Just buy whoever has your size in the color you like and bring it to a tailor. A good tailor.

I will, however, say that Hickey Freeman has the most history and is often regarded as one of the best of the low end of suits. I believe Hartmarx, which is the parent company of hart schaffner and marx owns Hickey Freeman (at a corporate level). The two brands may produce the same product but with different labels to price discriminate to two different consumer demographics.

To the questioner, if your tailor carries those items, and he is truly a well renowned tailor, then buy what he has since he is accustomed to dealing with those manufacturers.
 
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^^ I'll admit you have great fashion advice, though. It's definitely worth abiding by.
 
The "Lol" in this post is astounding. What are you? An 11 year old girl?

I'm only kidding, don't get your 11 year old panties in an uproar.

You're really grasping for that one, huh?
Where's all this supposed wit, and humor you were alluding to?
 
Jos. A. Bank has huge sales (at least here in the Dallas area) constantly it seems. I'm definitely going to check them out when suit shopping time rolls around.

Do you know about the online sales? I'm pretty sure they are the same as the in-store sales. Which would mean that if you don't want to shop online you can just go to any Jos Bank outlet and get the same discount. Some of those sales are pretty damn good (e.g. buy 1 $400 suit get 2 free etc.). I'd suggest anyone interested sign up on their mailing list at their site. Just wait around until you get an email from them with some crazy sale (off season is common).
 
Hey guys,

I'm illiterate when it comes to suits so any advice would be great.

I have a suit that's 4-5 years old (hasn't been tailored) and I can't really tell if it's black or dark navy blue (is there a way to tell?). Either way, the suit is vertically striped with 3 light blue lines spaced close together; these 3 lines are separated from the next series of 3 lines by about an inch.

So my first question is: is it okay to wear a black suit to an interview if it's striped and doesn't look depressing?

Also, can I get an old suit tailored?

And finally, what kind of tie-pattern would work with a vertically striped suit? I obviously don't want to do anything crazy but I feel like just a solid tie wouldn't look as good with a suit that has stripes. Any thoughts?



Thanks!
 
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I have a suit that's 4-5 years old (hasn't been tailored)
Make sure it still fits 😉

and I can't really tell if it's black or dark navy blue (is there a way to tell?).

Doesn't matter.

Either way, the suit is vertically striped with 3 light blue lines spaced close together; these 3 lines are separated from the next series of 3 lines by about an inch.

So my first question is: is it okay to wear a black suit to an interview if it's striped and doesn't look depressing?

It sounds like the suit typically seen at interview days. No need to worry about that.

Also, can I get an old suit tailored?

Absolutely.

And finally, what kind of tie-pattern would work with a vertically striped suit? I obviously don't want to do anything crazy but I feel like just a solid tie wouldn't look as good with a suit that has stripes. Any thoughts?

I like to choose my ties by wearing the jacket to the store and just trying on whatever looks good. It's not much of a science; just go with what looks good.
 
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You do realize that after Ted Williams died, he was decapitated and his head is sitting frozen in some lab, in Arizona, I think. A sorry end to the greatest hitter who ever lived.

Yeah I do, and it sucks.

I was lucky enough to score some tickets to the 1999 All-star game at Fenway Park, and the moment he came onto the field was incredibly powerful.

I never met the dude and he may have been a douche for all I know, but the emotion in that stadium was amazing; people all around me, and including me, were tearing up. I was freakin 10 years old and I had the kind of goosebumps that R.L. Stine could only dream of.
 
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Can we get back to clothes?

Captain, what do you think of these manufacturers: Chaps-Ralph Lauren&#8206;&#8206;, Hickery Freeman, Hart Schaffner & Marx&#8206;&#8206;? A well-regarded tailor in town sells these brands and I'm thinking of picking one up (since I don't have time for Savile Row or China).

Thanks for all your helpful comments.

I know CN is considered the expert here, but my research has yielded HSM on sale as being one of the best low-medium end deals. (Also, Jos A. Bank signature on sale, but that wasn't on your list)
 
I know CN is considered the expert here, but my research has yielded HSM on sale as being one of the best low-medium end deals. (Also, Jos A. Bank signature on sale, but that wasn't on your list)

I'm hardly an expert on who goes on sale and when. I never actually go shopping for clothes now that I have what I need. I spend most of my time gardening, doing business, cooking and eating. In fact, Farrar is totally new to me and I learned about him thru this thread. Or maybe because the low end is obscure to me.

From a point of economic philosophy, I hate the idea of sales. It hides value. For example, I get the Charles Tyrwhitt catalogs even though I never order from them. There is never a time when the shirts AREN'T on sale. And yet, they put the full retail price with a slash through it as if the consumer is suppose to denote some saved value from that.

I would be told to leave if I went to my shirtmaker and asked him if he ever had sales. In the end, the relationship between producer and consumer should be of mutual respect. The idea of sales diminishes that to some idea of corporate structure whose sole purpose is to make the profit/sales figures or move inventory.
 
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