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[Wjldenver]

Seven out of the Eight Med Schools Mentioned are DO

Once Banned, For-Profit Medical Schools Are On The Rise Again In The U.S.

Montana is one of only four states without a medical school, and two groups with different financial models hope to remedy that. One plans a for-profit school, but critics say students may suffer.

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[SurgDoc95]

Honestly, after going to a “nonprofit” private medical school for profit doesn’t bother me as much. At least they’re being honest about their intentions 🤷🏼‍♂️

 

[Goro]

This is old news. Whoot whoot!

 

[DameJulie]

I wonder why these schools all chose to locate in the west. Only making residency at west even harder to obtain now

 

[Wjldenver]

This is old news. Whoot whoot!

Ha! Where is JKdoctor when you need him?

 

[MDMechEngr]

Didn't realize there are that many for-profit DO schools.

 

[Goro]

Didn't realize there are that many for-profit DO schools.

Disgusting, ain't it?

 

[Neopolymath]

Disgusting, ain't it?

They can't even be bothered to pretend to be non-profit in name like the other bad schools. That really sets them apart in my mind. They don't even keep up appearances.

 

[Lawpy]

This only makes the inevitable conclusion even more tragic

 

[Sardonix]

I wonder why these schools all chose to locate in the west. Only making residency at west even harder to obtain now

More space, cheaper start up cost, fewer doctors per mile. Easier for the public to see a med school opening up in the middle of nowhere and think, "Wow, they must want to help the local populace!" rather than like the 20th school in NY or Chicago (which would also be more expensive). That is not to say just because they open a school in Bumbleweed, Idaho that they actually care about rural towns or medicine.

 

[Ho0v-man]

More space, cheaper start up cost, fewer doctors per mile. Easier for the public to see a med school opening up in the middle of nowhere and think, "Wow, they must want to help the local populace!" rather than like the 20th school in NY or Chicago (which would also be more expensive). That is not to say just because they open a school in Bumbleweed, Idaho that they actually care about rural towns or medicine.

All of this and you can actually pick off great students who made the mistake of being born in Utah or California.

 

[Goro]

All of this and you can actually pick off great students who made the mistake of being born in Utah or California.

Well, in all of these western states, there are only so many good students whose desire to stay closer to home outweighs the wariness of a brand new school. Thus, the greater likelihood you get a weaker student pool, and combined with a lack of student support, you get the higher attrition rates and lower COMLEX performance.

The only reason Touro and RVU are eyeing Montana for a new school is that they know these are cash cows. Does the AOA and COCA know this? Nope. They're blinded by the mindset of "More DOs good!!!"

 

[hallowmann]

More space, cheaper start up cost, fewer doctors per mile. Easier for the public to see a med school opening up in the middle of nowhere and think, "Wow, they must want to help the local populace!" rather than like the 20th school in NY or Chicago (which would also be more expensive). That is not to say just because they open a school in Bumbleweed, Idaho that they actually care about rural towns or medicine.

Not to say this is a good thing by any means or that it will mean more doctors staying local, but a medical school in a small community usually is a good thing for the community. It means tons of federal loan money pumping into the area from the 200-300 kids in the M1/M2 class. Increased restaurant, shopping, and real estate market. For profit schools also have the benefit of not increasing non- taxable land in the area. It's not gonna mean more doctors though, not without residencies.

 

[Sardonix]

Not to say this is a good thing by any means or that it will mean more doctors staying local, but a medical school in a small community usually is a good thing for the community. It means tons of federal loan money pumping into the area from the 200-300 kids in the M1/M2 class. Increased restaurant, shopping, and real estate market. For profit schools also have the benefit of not increasing non- taxable land in the area. It's not gonna mean more doctors though, not without residencies.

Not to mention you get the benefit of a bunch of relatively well off students who are too timid/focused on studying to make a ruckus.

 

[FootballAndSkiing]

The only reason Touro and RVU are eyeing Montana for a new school is that they know these are cash cows. Does the AOA and COCA know this? Nope. They're blinded by the mindset of "More DOs good!!!"

Does the fact that the chair of COCA is RVU's president matter at all? Like how does COCA work? Is that relevant their decisions or mindset?

 

[Goro]

Does the fact that the chair of COCA is RVU's president matter at all?

That's not a good sign for the profession.

Like how does COCA work?

Honestly, I have yet to understand their mindsets

Is that relevant their decisions or mindset?

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

Does the fact that the chair of COCA is RVU's president matter at all? Like how does COCA work? Is that relevant their decisions or mindset?

How is that not a conflict of interest? That would be like the chair of LCME being CNU’s president. That would be bonkers.

 

[Sardonix]

Honestly, I have yet to understand their mindsets

Maybe this artist's rendition will help you understand.

 

[Darrow O'Lykos]

Well, in all of these western states, there are only so many good students whose desire to stay closer to home outweighs the wariness of a brand new school. Thus, the greater likelihood you get a weaker student pool, and combined with a lack of student support, you get the higher attrition rates and lower COMLEX performance.

The only reason Touro and RVU are eyeing Montana for a new school is that they know these are cash cows. Does the AOA and COCA know this? Nope. They're blinded by the mindset of "More DOs good!!!"

COCA and AOA:

 

[futureapppsy2]

Maybe this artist's rendition will help you understand.

Also this

 

[DrZoidbergDO]

Not to mention you get the benefit of a bunch of relatively well off students who are too timid/focused on studying to make a ruckus.

man you clearly havent seen my class lmao

 

[Sardonix]

man you clearly havent seen my class lmao

This is true, as I have no intention of ever setting foot inside a medical school ever again.