I wholeheartedly agree which is why I don't put that much weight on rankings alone, I have more of a holistic approach. I compare rankings, location, tuition/potential for debt, research opportunities and post grad employment together. Like you said I think a name can certainly open doors but I also think you can go to a lesser known institution and bust your ass and get those same opportunities or comparable ones at least. Its about just making the most of your opportunities and taking initiatives. Like you said, no name or ranking will save you once you start that job. its all about productivity.
Thank you for this.
if I can think of anymore questions I will let you knowIf this was supposed to be a response to my "ranking nonsense" u could have addressed me directly and not use some passive aggressive beat around the bush approach. My comment was not putting down anyone, I don't know how you interpreted it as such but that was not my intent (again if your little "side note" was addressing my comment). I don't get how or why you are insulted about something that doesn't remotely appear as a "dig" in my opinion.. what are u gonna do when u are in your mph program and someone says something comparable to what I said? Get insulted? u will be butt hurt all the time if that's the case. u cant take it to heart dude. We all have our own opinions as you pointed to, who cares what I think? Seriously. I'm one person. I was merely pointing to the fact of how each ranking system uses a different criteria, which is what I meant when I said "nonsense". I wasn't saying paying attention to rank itself was nonsense, just that each organization (or whomever is providing the ranking list) places certain weight on things and its just silly in my opinion to think that one list could really encompass all the criteria one looks at when determining how highly regarded an institution is or should be. ITs impossible ! We all care about rank to a certain degree, but Its all subjective. You may care more about a certain criteria than I or anyone else, just like these organizations providing the ranks, so each list is going to be different.
Not denying that they are comprehensive (see the tail end of my most recent comment in response to orchid) or not important, I was just noting the subjectivity that's all. I saw your notes actually and they were pretty damn good imo. Again I wasn't saying looking at rankings themselves is nonsense, I was saying it is basically impossible for every ranking system to encompass all the things we all want, and that is what is nonsense. It's crazy that these ranking people think their ranks specifically are gods gift to man. Each ranking system puts weight on whatever they want to. So NRC may appear really comprehensive to you while to someone else it may be missing a certain criteria. It has subjectivity, which isn't a bad thing because we all inherently value certain criteria differently.
not vehement just wanted to make sure if you were offended by response i made it clear that wasn't my intent. I had a disclaimer if your comment was addressing me specifically, that is my response. if not then obviously who cares.
hope it all works out for you
I'm confused too! I wish I could help out :/ for me most HMP/HPM/HPA lol the health policy categories are missing so I was wondering if it's even a complete list
That's my point too. However nobody seems to agree which concerns me. My concentration is Social and Behavioral Sciences. Its not Epi or anything so im sure that matters in terms of rankings. Anyone have any real perspective to share?
Thanks for the response. I did read the comment earlier about a top school just getting you in the door but substance is what will determine success. I agree however I think that also depends on the individual not the school. I'm sure all PH schools are good enough to teach smart kids all about public health. The difference in experience and education comes down to how we personally use our time at the school to take advantage of opportunities. So personally because I'm a smart girl (I thinks so anyway) I think I will be successful at both schools. My questions is more about how will an MPH from Yale compare to an MPH at Emory assuming similar research work at both schools.
Thanks. Can you give your reasons?
Good point. I love Emory and have had success with my undergrad degree. I have always pictured myself at Rollins but my mentor (Rollins grad)and others have said to explore Yale. I want to do that but I want to understand why. Is it only for the name ? I'm concerned that must be it because of the rankings.
Thanks for the info. I know from past posts I have read you haven't enjoyed your time at Tulane. I was accepted but honestly stopped considering the school when I got into Rollins and GW. Partly because some of your comments. This is also why I'm nervous about choosing. On one hand Emory is great and I am comfortable here. What if I decide on Yale and hate it. That's my fear.
Yes I got into GW, Tulane, Emory and Yale. Rejected from Columbia. Emory and Columbia were my top 2 choices
I agree. I noticed a lot of more people were rejected from Yale but accepted at top schools. I think Yale is much smaller than Columbia. I reread my SOP for Columbia and it wasn't very good so I think that's why they rejected me. Lol
I'm going through the same exact dilemma right now also. They're both incredible schools and I'm torn between them for Epi of infectious disease. Honestly, this may sound ridiculous but I'm not incredibly comfortable with saying Yale's name or going there because it is an Ivy league. It comes with certain expectations from people that aren't true for the public health program. While the undergrad has an acceptance rate of 8%, their public health is closer to 34%. And that's not something people outside of the public health community would know. Also I am worried about interacting with people of the other graduate schools, Law and Med, particularly. Those schools are some of the most difficult to be accepted into in the country and I worry that may come with a bit of arrogance from the students within those programs. I don't want to go to a school where I feel inferior to the other programs going on around me. I want to be in an area where I feel comfortable meeting new people.
I'm not concerned about the other students at all. If they are there for law or business odds are they have no clue about PH. I love Emory and would be happy to stay. I just want to make sure it's the best decision
hope it works out for you!
