Under normal circumstances I think you are right, but the reason I see this as something different is because the reputation of Wake Forest is being publicly attacked due to this circumstance. Since this person is a student at Wake Forest it inevitably reflects very poorly on the school. I think this will be a "save face" kind of situation to minimize collateral damage while regaining trust in the public eye, but let's see.
She said the patient had to be stuck a second time. It may or may not have been purposeful.
Wake Forest medical student suggests she stuck patient twice with needle after he called out her pronoun pin
Wake Forest School of Medicine fourth-year student in North Carolina said she purposely missed a vein so a patient had to get "stuck twice" because he asked about her pronoun pin.www.foxnews.com
You don't see anything wrong with her tweet? Regardless of if the double stick was on purpose or not?
I do. I mean, Twitter has the same risk/reward profile as Russian Roulette, but the Internet Outrage Mob is just that: a mob, with all commensurate sensibilities.
People in the medical community have been fired/dismissed for much less. Eugene gu, students clicking in for a friend at mandatory lectures, uva student. In all these cases, students/residents exhibited bad judgment and or said idiotic things but I don’t think they really had a direct or even indirect impact on patient care
Apples to oranges. Signing in a friend for mandatory lectures would almost certainly violate a specific policy enumerated in the student handbook.
It's a teaching moment
And the post she was replying to is private now. Was reading the the thread last night. But she went on to say that she would kindly explain to the patient why she thought it was important. I guess she is getting harassed too, but did nothing wrong.
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My immediate thought in response to that:
Or just be a normal functioning human...
Unfortunately due process isn't nearly thorough in academia. And the threshold is much lower. But when comparing this with capital punishment, rightfully so
Yes, I think Ive seen this compared to like 3-5 other instances that took place over the course of years. Its not that common relatively speaking. Most people are careful or just good people
You and me both know that's not how it works, unfortunately.
What
The point is that you really shouldn't post anything on social media as someone pursuing medicine. The definition of "normal" internet behavior changes frequently, and what is considered controversial or not will change every couple of months.
Except it really isn’t that subjective and lots of medical professionals use Twitter to share research articles and news and job opportunities.
FYI, while this is true (and in fact reading the fine print on my employment contract, apparently I'm REQUIRED to build an online social media presence... wonder if this counts...) the calculus is different between a faculty member and a student. Given that nobody is going to take what a med student has to say very seriously, there is just very marginal benefit to saying anything on social media. Furthermore, if you DO choose to post on social media, then you really should restrict it to clearly academic things like your suggestions (research articles, etc).
on top of that, this is going to be one of the least stupid things a patient says to her during her career, so how will she react when a patient says something even more egregious?
Do you have link or just word of mouth?
Honestly, I doubt the patient knows it is him, it happened weeks ago and was probably something he forgot about immediately after. I think it might be hard to connect the dots. But it sounds like the school knows who the patient is, so I wonder if they will feel obligated to contact him.
And look at the replies to Wake's resent tweets, they are getting harassed. They had to to do something quickly.
Where you see she matched? Pretty sure rising senior applying for ENT
From my understanding she’s in her 4th year. I could be wrong. Either way she got off too easy
So that makes her egregious public post somehow less egregious? Even if she is given the benefit of the doubt that she lied about this whole thing for publicity and the patient wasn't stuck twice, her true intentions and beliefs have been shown to the world that she can't objectively treat patients without inserting her own biases. I know I don't have to tell you how important it is that we have the public's trust and confidence. We don't need people like her undermining that.Student on Leave, Claimed She Jabbed Patient Over Pronoun Pin
Wake Forest University School of Medicine takes issue with Twitter post by medical student bragging that she purposefully injured a patient who mocked her ‘she/her’ pronoun badge.www.medscape.com
Per this version, she tried once, and while she shouldn’t have celebrated his misfortune (and even moreso not publicly in twitter) but the patient wasn’t purposefully injured, and didn’t suffer more than anyone else who’s ever had a blood draw from someone new to phlebotomy.
I was thinking this as well. Tucker Carlson has quite a big audience...
Nope, it’s still egregious. And there should still be repercussions. Wasn’t defending the post in the slightest, just saying it’s not actually assault & battery, which was alluded to earlier in the thread. It’s, at best, a very poor taste joke about “karma’s a *****” (still not okay), and at worst, an illustration on lack of objectivity and empathy, like you said.
I assume the LOA is to get her out of the way while they decide on what to do with her.
Ya this seems more likely to me as well. I read about a uva student on here who was dismissed and he was placed on an LOA before formal dismissal
Her post alone is indefensible, someone like her does not need to be around patients.Student on Leave, Claimed She Jabbed Patient Over Pronoun Pin
Wake Forest University School of Medicine takes issue with Twitter post by medical student bragging that she purposefully injured a patient who mocked her ‘she/her’ pronoun badge.www.medscape.com
Per this version, she tried once, and while she shouldn’t have celebrated his misfortune (and even moreso not publicly in twitter) but the patient wasn’t purposefully injured, and didn’t suffer more than anyone else who’s ever had a blood draw from someone new to phlebotomy.
