It's not worth asking. You'll just look stupid.
well depends on where you are working, i saw ads from walgreen that offer relocation asst in middle of no where nebraska hahaha
It's not worth asking. You'll just look stupid.
I have 12 years experience, but made the terrible mistake of quitting my job to open my own pharmacy in 2006. The pharmacy did well at first but eventually reimbursement got ridiculous (I'm talking below acquisition!) - I sold my pharmacy 2 years ago and have been looking for a job ever since. I can handle high volume and most computer systems, I can talk down and calm the craziest of customers. I know the ins and outs of how to get non formulary Rxs covered. But all that doesn't matter when I can't even get an interview!!
I have now resorted to moving into my fathers home, but I still need an income to pay for those extravagant loans. Isn't there a government agency out there thats supposed to protect us?
and why are these students still willing to give 4 years of their lives and 200k for a useless degree?
I have 12 years experience, but made the terrible mistake of quitting my job to open my own pharmacy in 2006. The pharmacy did well at first but eventually reimbursement got ridiculous (I'm talking below acquisition!) - I sold my pharmacy 2 years ago and have been looking for a job ever since. I can handle high volume and most computer systems, I can talk down and calm the craziest of customers. I know the ins and outs of how to get non formulary Rxs covered. But all that doesn't matter when I can't even get an interview!!
I have now resorted to moving into my fathers home, but I still need an income to pay for those extravagant loans. Isn't there a government agency out there thats supposed to protect us?
and why are these students still willing to give 4 years of their lives and 200k for a useless degree?
is this for real?
West Texas is absolutely on need of quality pharmacists.. We get knuckle dragging, bottom of the barrel pharmacists out here... It's honestly embarrassing to think that some of these people even have RPh licenses and PHARMD degrees..I'm still looking for a PIC who can actually process a RX via our incredibly user friendly pharmacy system at my store. I have 3 techs babysitting my current PIC...
I have 12 years experience, but made the terrible mistake of quitting my job to open my own pharmacy in 2006. The pharmacy did well at first but eventually reimbursement got ridiculous (I'm talking below acquisition!) - I sold my pharmacy 2 years ago and have been looking for a job ever since. I can handle high volume and most computer systems, I can talk down and calm the craziest of customers. I know the ins and outs of how to get non formulary Rxs covered. But all that doesn't matter when I can't even get an interview!!
I have now resorted to moving into my fathers home, but I still need an income to pay for those extravagant loans. Isn't there a government agency out there thats supposed to protect us?
and why are these students still willing to give 4 years of their lives and 200k for a useless degree?
This is why owning your own pharmacy isn't the answer. My goal for going to pharmacy school was to open my own pharmacy. My first job after graduation was with an independent pharmacy. I left that job after 3 months to work for Walgreens. That 3 months opened my eyes about opening your own pharmacy and for now, let's say that goal is on hold.
I find it very hard to believe that at 2003 rates he hasn't fully paid off his loans after 12 years. Must be one of those minimum payment guys who will be paying for the rest of their life.
Stop hiring OU grads.
Isn't there a government agency out there thats supposed to protect us? and why are these students still willing to give 4 years of their lives and 200k for a useless degree?
West Texas is absolutely on need of quality pharmacists.. We get knuckle dragging, bottom of the barrel pharmacists out here... It's honestly embarrassing to think that some of these people even have RPh licenses and PHARMD degrees..I'm still looking for a PIC who can actually process a RX via our incredibly user friendly pharmacy system at my store. I have 3 techs babysitting my current PIC...
The problem with independents is that a lot of owners operate in the "gray areas". Some cheat. Some get away with it. Some don't.
If you don't do it as well, you are at a disadvantage. That is why owning a pharmacy is not something I have considered much.
"a lot of owners operate in gray areas"-- examples?
You obviously don't know the first thing about pharmacy ownership or the business fundamentals of pharmacy. It's certainly not.a FREE MARKET ( insurers driving patients to their own pharmacies or colluding with chains) but you can do VERY well for yourself filling 120-150 Rxs per day. Once you approach 200 per day you'll be in position to hire a second FT pharmacist if you were to so choose.
I will help you with an example:
There are compounding pharmacies largely licensed in multiple states who go about hiring marketing teams for patients leads, teledoc RXS etc; they are absolutely the bottom of the barrel and deserve to lose their licenses.
I like El Paso from my limited stay there. Of course Bay Area and Philly are better, but I would choose it over lots of other locations.My store is 5 hours EAST of El Paso.. I can't brlirbe you know someone that actually likes El Paso!
This is why owning your own pharmacy isn't the answer. My goal for going to pharmacy school was to open my own pharmacy. My first job after graduation was with an independent pharmacy. I left that job after 3 months to work for Walgreens. That 3 months opened my eyes about opening your own pharmacy and for now, let's say that goal is on hold.
Here is the most recent newsletter available online.Just go to your BOP's website. The vast majority of pharmacists who got their license suspended or revoked are independent pharmacists. Why is that?
Here is the most recent newsletter available online.
Walgreens, CVS, Walmart as well as independent pharmacies are all listed. So your inaccurate assertion is proven just that; inaccurate.
http://www.pharmacy.texas.gov/files_pdf/2014_Summer_Disciplinary_Summaries.pdf
No corporate compliance team? Just a guess. When you're getting visits from a DM, compliance emails, computer training, etc. it probably helps keep you in line with corporate policies that are based on the law. Much more likely that the issues would be caught (and hopefully corrected) before the board came in.Just go to your BOP's website. The vast majority of pharmacists who got their license suspended or revoked are independent pharmacists. Why is that?
You obviously didn't open the link I provided.Like I said the vast majority are independent pharmacists.
You obviously didn't open the link I provided.
Here is the most recent newsletter available online.
Walgreens, CVS, Walmart as well as independent pharmacies are all listed. So your inaccurate assertion is proven just that; inaccurate.
http://www.pharmacy.texas.gov/files_pdf/2014_Summer_Disciplinary_Summaries.pdf
BMBiology is right. Go back to the TSBP website and look properly. There is not a single chain pharmacy that has lost their license in recent years but there are lots of independent pharmacies that have had their licenses suspended or revoked. Most chain pharmacies and pharmacists will get just probation and fine.
BMBiology is right. Go back to the TSBP website and look properly. There is not a single chain pharmacy that has lost their license in recent years but there are lots of independent pharmacies that have had their licenses suspended or revoked. Most chain pharmacies and pharmacists will get just probation and fine.
http://www.pharmacy.texas.gov/files_pdf/2014_winter_disciplinary_actions.pdfBMBiology is right. Go back to the TSBP website and look properly. There is not a single chain pharmacy that has lost their license in recent years but there are lots of independent pharmacies that have had their licenses suspended or revoked. Most chain pharmacies and pharmacists will get just probation and fine.
I would be scared if i have to move to Texas just by looking at pharmacists who have gotten fines and probation. Wow!!!! LOOK at those number. just wow
I think I know the answer but just to make sure how are they finding about so called violations???????
---Dispensing error --> called my patient or reported by employer ????
---Non tech doing tech duties --> random visit by board member????
I have to start this post by saying to the moderators of student doctor network, please do not move this thread to the "job outlook" mega thread. The reasons I say this is when I searched unemployed pharmacist studentdoctor does not get great hits for this bc Google indexes a lot based upon title of the actual Thread. I am hoping my story can give some good insight into some things the profession is facing and the struggle I am facing.
This is a serious post so please keep responses serious. I am also reaching out for any advice any member on these forums can offer.
To start, I am a licensed pharmacist in 2 and soon to be other states. I have a doctor of pharmacy (Pharm.D.) degree, completed an ASHP accredited residency and was later certified in Geriatrics with fellowship. I worked as a hospital staff pharmacist, a clinical pharmacy specialist, a clinical pharmacy manager, and brief stint in consulting pharmacy. I do have retail pharmacy experience as well.
My references are top notch from both physicians and pharmacists.
I left a job I had to relocate for a new job; however, due to the economy the company lost the contract and went under. Due to laws regarding length of employment necessary to qualify for unemployment, I did not qualify.
I have landed Per Diem work but hours are few and far between. Hours are given based on seniority. I am willing to work any shift in any pharmacy setting and willing to do it for less than other pharmacists are paid (rate here is 48-51). We all say it is about networking but the problem is there aren't jobs to network into especially with 60+ pharmacists applying for one job. I have a strong network from pharmacists I worked with, residency people, others I knew from school, and those I met at national pharmacy meetings.
To give more light on the pharmacy situation in my area, a local Director of Pharmacy left his position in a hospital on good terms. This director has PharmD, MBA, around twenty years of experience. He could only find a per diem position and eventually an overnight 7on 7 off job as a hospital staff pharmacist when the previous pharmacist was terminated for reasons beyond my knowledge. I know this former director.
You might ask why don't you go back to where you used to work? Well after I left that position and relocated, the hospital was not doing well financially because it was mostly Medicaid type payments. The hospital consolidated the clinical manager position I had with the pharmacy manager position into one to reduce a pharmacist position for budget reasons.
Here I am today, I spend majority of my days reaching out to contacts, cold calling, stopping by every pharmacy in a 100 mile radius, handing out copies of my CV, and looking for other ways to get additional training.
I do not wish this situation on anyone. I do have large loans from pharmacy school still and a family. We are barely getting by. I spoke to a few Professor friends of mine at pharmacy colleges in the Midwest that said their graduating classes are having an incredibly hard time finding anything.
I spoke to the retail chain pharmacies about working but they want those with very high volume experience and I was told that with my hospital background I would leave the position if a hospital job opened.
I see so many people post on these forums that are directors and pharmacists elsewhere. Is there any sound advice anyone can offer? I am willing to sleep in a motel and work in a far away location if need be.
Am I able to work as a pharmacy technician? I feel liked training and work experience is going to waste. The doctors I worked with can't believe how pharmacy world is different but the pharmacists I worked with all know and some pharmacists and technicians were recently laid off.
Its Z, PHarmercyst and everyone else, if you have any sort of good advice, please advice. I can exchange telephone numbers if you private message me on here. I haven't posted in a long time but I am desperate. Please understand this is very difficult for me to share this information on such a public forum.
I look forward to any positive information anyone can share.
Are you willing to relocate in CA and pass the CPJE? I know of 1 opening through a job connection.
That post was from over 3 years ago, and it looks like OP is in nursing school.
I have to start this post by saying to the moderators of student doctor network, please do not move this thread to the "job outlook" mega thread. The reasons I say this is when I searched unemployed pharmacist studentdoctor does not get great hits for this bc Google indexes a lot based upon title of the actual Thread. I am hoping my story can give some good insight into some things the profession is facing and the struggle I am facing.
This is a serious post so please keep responses serious. I am also reaching out for any advice any member on these forums can offer.
To start, I am a licensed pharmacist in 2 and soon to be other states. I have a doctor of pharmacy (Pharm.D.) degree, completed an ASHP accredited residency and was later certified in Geriatrics with fellowship. I worked as a hospital staff pharmacist, a clinical pharmacy specialist, a clinical pharmacy manager, and brief stint in consulting pharmacy. I do have retail pharmacy experience as well.
My references are top notch from both physicians and pharmacists.
I left a job I had to relocate for a new job; however, due to the economy the company lost the contract and went under. Due to laws regarding length of employment necessary to qualify for unemployment, I did not qualify.
I have landed Per Diem work but hours are few and far between. Hours are given based on seniority. I am willing to work any shift in any pharmacy setting and willing to do it for less than other pharmacists are paid (rate here is 48-51). We all say it is about networking but the problem is there aren't jobs to network into especially with 60+ pharmacists applying for one job. I have a strong network from pharmacists I worked with, residency people, others I knew from school, and those I met at national pharmacy meetings.
To give more light on the pharmacy situation in my area, a local Director of Pharmacy left his position in a hospital on good terms. This director has PharmD, MBA, around twenty years of experience. He could only find a per diem position and eventually an overnight 7on 7 off job as a hospital staff pharmacist when the previous pharmacist was terminated for reasons beyond my knowledge. I know this former director.
You might ask why don't you go back to where you used to work? Well after I left that position and relocated, the hospital was not doing well financially because it was mostly Medicaid type payments. The hospital consolidated the clinical manager position I had with the pharmacy manager position into one to reduce a pharmacist position for budget reasons.
Here I am today, I spend majority of my days reaching out to contacts, cold calling, stopping by every pharmacy in a 100 mile radius, handing out copies of my CV, and looking for other ways to get additional training.
I do not wish this situation on anyone. I do have large loans from pharmacy school still and a family. We are barely getting by. I spoke to a few Professor friends of mine at pharmacy colleges in the Midwest that said their graduating classes are having an incredibly hard time finding anything.
I spoke to the retail chain pharmacies about working but they want those with very high volume experience and I was told that with my hospital background I would leave the position if a hospital job opened.
I see so many people post on these forums that are directors and pharmacists elsewhere. Is there any sound advice anyone can offer? I am willing to sleep in a motel and work in a far away location if need be.
Am I able to work as a pharmacy technician? I feel liked training and work experience is going to waste. The doctors I worked with can't believe how pharmacy world is different but the pharmacists I worked with all know and some pharmacists and technicians were recently laid off.
Its Z, PHarmercyst and everyone else, if you have any sort of good advice, please advice. I can exchange telephone numbers if you private message me on here. I haven't posted in a long time but I am desperate. Please understand this is very difficult for me to share this information on such a public forum.
I look forward to any positive information anyone can share.
I have 12 years experience, but made the terrible mistake of quitting my job to open my own pharmacy in 2006. The pharmacy did well at first but eventually reimbursement got ridiculous (I'm talking below acquisition!) - I sold my pharmacy 2 years ago and have been looking for a job ever since. I can handle high volume and most computer systems, I can talk down and calm the craziest of customers. I know the ins and outs of how to get non formulary Rxs covered. But all that doesn't matter when I can't even get an interview!!
I have now resorted to moving into my fathers home, but I still need an income to pay for those extravagant loans. Isn't there a government agency out there thats supposed to protect us?
and why are these students still willing to give 4 years of their lives and 200k for a useless degree?
Your board of pharmacy is much more active than mine. Pretty much, in Wisconsin, all of the license issues have to do with pharmacists being addicted to and/or stealing drugs. It has been years since the last time an actual pharmacy lost its license.
Lol the standard thinking for most people is 6-7 years/$100kHe is just bringing back all of these threads by pretending to ask some silly question.
The funny thing is all of these new grads who are complaining about the job market are the same people who caused the saturation.
Didn't you know there is a saturation? Maybe you heard about it but you decided to let CNN "hot jobs" report decide your faith? Or maybe you let some greedy pharmacy school dean convince you? Perhaps if you had spent as much time researching your career as you had spent researching the latest iPhone, you wouldn't be in this mess?
If you can't find a job, it is really your fault. Most of you were not 17 when you applied to pharmacy school. You should have done your research. This is the result. You just have to deal with it.
Most people who are still applying to pharmacy school already know there is a saturation. They are applying anyways probably because they don't have many choices in their lives. Would you rather work as a pharmacy tech or lab rat and make $13 an hour or roll the dice and make $60 as a pharmacist? But hey, I respect that. Not everyone has the balls to run into a burning building.
Lol the standard thinking for most people is 6-7 years/$100k
Other than that there is really no incentive in becoming a pharmacist.
If the salary never reached 6 figures then there wouldn't be any saturation and working conditions would probably be better too. The PharmD degree probably would have never took off and would have stayed optional to the BPharm like it was in the 90s. There definitely wouldn't be an absurd tuition and cost of attendance that puts you in 6 figures of debt.
How many people would put up with the BS of CVS/Wag if it wasn't for the salary? I've literally had a DM who told me that I make x amount of dollars an hour so I shouldn't inquire about more humane working conditions.
Can't you just picture it, CVS/Walgreens branded hospital pharmacies.