Navy AEGD/GPR - Pay bump?

[chompsss]

Hello,

I know that with the Army, if you do the 12-month AEGD and the Advanced Clinical Practice Program afterwards (I've heard it's self-paced but some people have mentioned completing it in 8 months), it entitles you to between $18,000 and $35,000 more per year as a bonus.

If one does a Navy AEGD/GPR, are there any similar pay incentives or ACP-like programs to help one qualify for additional pay?

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[vellnueve]

No. You need to complete the full 2-year Comprehensive Dentistry residency for the up-to-$50K bonus.

 

[chompsss]

No. You need to complete the full 2-year Comprehensive Dentistry residency for the up-to-$50K bonus.

That's a bit of a bummer. Is the 2-year AEGD $50k bonus an automatic if you complete the program? Do you know where I can grab more info on that (eligibility, stipulations, etc.)? Do they use it just as a mutli-year retention bonus or do you get that incentive pay immediately once you're done the 2-year program?

 

[darknightzzz]

is the 50k extra (on top of 90K) worth the 2 year comprehensive AGED?

sounds like 140k for 5 years seems like the average newly minted graduated dentists make in the outside world.

 

[cacazor]

is the 50k extra (on top of 90K) worth the 2 year comprehensive AGED?

sounds like 140k for 5 years seems like the average newly minted graduated dentists make in the outside world.

If you're planning to serve for the long haul in the military, why not do an AGED? Extra money is always welcomed.

Whether or not that is worth it for YOU is a different question and that's something you have to evaluate yourself.

 

[vellnueve]

The 50K is the multi-year retention bonus and comes after you complete all educational payback and sign a 4 year contract. Lesser amounts are available for 2-3-4 year contracts. General dentists get $25K for a 4 year contract on the DOMRB.

The pays are changing shortly, however; new specialists coming in will have a new pay plan that has just been released in the last few weeks (so new that the Navy hasn't issued its own guidance yet).

And the pays are the same across the services, guided by the same DOD instruction, so you won't find any major differences between the services.

As for whether that's enough, you need to decide that for yourself. No one has ever claimed that the military dentistry career is as financially lucrative as private practice. When you consider that the average brand new sailor deploying multiple times to sea for 9 months at a time, or the average young soldier or Marine kicking doors in across Afghanistan make under $30K annually, you have to understand that while the military offers a lot of benefits, that in the end it's about service, not personal financial gain.

 

[chompsss]

The 50K is the multi-year retention bonus and comes after you complete all educational payback and sign a 4 year contract. Lesser amounts are available for 2-3-4 year contracts. General dentists get $25K for a 4 year contract on the DOMRB.

The pays are changing shortly, however; new specialists coming in will have a new pay plan that has just been released in the last few weeks (so new that the Navy hasn't issued its own guidance yet).

And the pays are the same across the services, guided by the same DOD instruction, so you won't find any major differences between the services.

As for whether that's enough, you need to decide that for yourself. No one has ever claimed that the military dentistry career is as financially lucrative as private practice. When you consider that the average brand new sailor deploying multiple times to sea for 9 months at a time, or the average young soldier or Marine kicking doors in across Afghanistan make under $30K annually, you have to understand that while the military offers a lot of benefits, that in the end it's about service, not personal financial gain.

Thanks @vellnueve - I knew that pay changes were made in the Army (shown below) and I'm thinking those are the same changes for the Navy and AF. Interestingly, they show all changes for everything but the retention bonuses for specialists. Hopefully they don't go down like the General Dentist MRBs did.

Changes:
Legacy - VSP (monthly) and ASP (annually)
New "CSP" - Now just collectively called HPOIP paid annually in the amount of $20,000

Board Certified Pay
Legacy BCP - was $209-$500/month
New CSP - now $2,500-$6,000 per year

Retention Bonuses For General Dentists
Legacy - would receive an annual bonus of $18k, $27k, or $35k for a 2, 3, or 4 year extension
New CSP - now receive only $13k, $19k, or $25k for those same 2, 3, or 4 year extensions

Retention Bonuses for Specialists
Legacy - would receive annual bonus of $25k, $38k, or $50k for a 2, 3, or 4 year extension
New CSP - ????¿????¿????

FYI I got these figures and this info from this video posted by the Army last month:


I'm also giving this screenshot of the relevant info.

 

[vellnueve]

The specialty retention bonuses are unlikely to take a hit IMO.

 

[drill-and-fill]

Thanks @vellnueve - I knew that pay changes were made in the Army (shown below) and I'm thinking those are the same changes for the Navy and AF. Interestingly, they show all changes for everything but the retention bonuses for specialists. Hopefully they don't go down like the General Dentist MRBs did.

Changes:
Legacy - VSP (monthly) and ASP (annually)
New "CSP" - Now just collectively called HPOIP paid annually in the amount of $20,000

Board Certified Pay
Legacy BCP - was $209-$500/month
New CSP - now $2,500-$6,000 per year

Retention Bonuses For General Dentists
Legacy - would receive an annual bonus of $18k, $27k, or $35k for a 2, 3, or 4 year extension
New CSP - now receive only $13k, $19k, or $25k for those same 2, 3, or 4 year extensions

Retention Bonuses for Specialists
Legacy - would receive annual bonus of $25k, $38k, or $50k for a 2, 3, or 4 year extension
New CSP - ????¿????¿????

FYI I got these figures and this info from this video posted by the Army last month:


I'm also giving this screenshot of the relevant info.

I thought all military branches always have the need for general dentists? Why are they cutting the retention bonuses for GP's?

 

[Hedgy]

Encourages more to specialize in Comp and, if they are top heavy with o5/o6s, then it can weed them out.

 

[vellnueve]

I thought all military branches always have the need for general dentists? Why are they cutting the retention bonuses for GP's?

It's evened out on the front end by high IP vs the older ASP/VSP for younger docs.