Need for USMLE Step II?

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avanb803 said:
Yeah, I'm a DO. I had in-state allopathic acceptance and out of state osteopathic acceptance. I chose osteopathic because I thought those arrogant yet ignorant thoughts were all but gone and I also wanted to go out of the state.

I think we all know that you are a liar, or you really should have ended up at a D.O. school, because you are a fuc*ing idiot. There are 2 truths that cannot reasonably be disputed:

1) No one chooses to go to a D.O. school. People END UP at a D.O. school because they cannot gain admission to a U.S. allopathic school.

2) Those who claim they "chose" a D.O. school over an allopathic school are either lying or truly stupid.

Tell the truth, if to no one else but yourself. You'll be a better D.O. for it. 😍
 
Big Bird said:
I think we all know that you are a liar, or you really should have ended up at a D.O. school, because you are a fuc*ing idiot. There are 2 truths that cannot reasonably be disputed:

1) No one chooses to go to a D.O. school. People END UP at a D.O. school because they cannot gain admission to a U.S. allopathic school.

2) Those who claim they "chose" a D.O. school over an allopathic school are either lying or truly stupid.

Tell the truth, if to no one else but yourself. You'll be a better D.O. for it. 😍

Can you prove any of what you just said? No. You have no intimate knowlege of everyone whose ever gone to a DO school and do not know whether or not they got into an allo school. Not everyone thinks like you do and some people actually go to DO schools b/c they want to learn OMM or like the osteopathic philosphy. Just STFU and stick to posting what you know instead of spreading your biased OPINIONS and trying to pass them off as facts. Moderator, please close this thread as it has died a while ago.
 
me454555 said:
Can you prove any of what you just said? No. You have no intimate knowlege of everyone whose ever gone to a DO school and do not know whether or not they got into an allo school. Not everyone thinks like you do and some people actually go to DO schools b/c they want to learn OMM or like the osteopathic philosphy. Just STFU and stick to posting what you know instead of spreading your biased OPINIONS and trying to pass them off as facts. Moderator, please close this thread as it has died a while ago.

Why don't you offer an argument to the contrary, then? Seriously, give me something I can work with. If so many people value the "osteopathic philosophy" then why do they scurry to allopathic residency training programs the first chance they get? Agreed, there are some people that truly buy into the osteopathic philosophy and appropriately, pursue osteopathic training programs. I have no problems with them because they are true to their word. It's the folk who sneak in the back door that irk me, and I hope irk you, too.
 
The funny part about this whole DOs "sneaking in the back door" is that when all is said and done, a US grad w/exact same stats and LORs as a DO or IMG will get the spot every time over the DO and IMG. The only time DOs and IMGs have opportunities to get a spot is when they are better than their US counterparts or US grads don't rank these programs.

Is this really sneaking in the back door? I don't think so
 
militarymd said:
I guess you're right. I guess I don't understand the osteopathic training pathway.

So correct if I'm wrong.

The osteopathic training pathway is planned from the beginning to switch to the allopathic training pathway once you finish with pre-graduate training.....Is that correct?

The switch over is pre-planned because you know from the get-go that there will be more osteopathic graduates than there will be osteopathic residency slots..right?

After you finish the allopathic residency, then you have the option to switch back over to the osteopathic boards again..right?

Was the summary accurate?

An Osteopath goes through undergraduate medical education and then has a option 1. Do an osteopathic residency and go through the osteopathic match or 2. Do an allopathic residency and go through NRMP. Traditionally many osteopaths pursued primary care residency slots, and there were few subspeciatly osteopathic postdoctoral training programs.
Todays osteopathic students have become much more competitive in terms of board scores and clinical performance. Many choose to pursue more competitive subspecialty residencies because they can and want, not because its by some "pre planned" circumstance.

Its pure economics, just like everything else in the US. For years, the need for residents and physicians (both allopathic & osteopathic) has been greater than the quantity generated by US allopathic education, which is still the case today. Hence the amount of foreign-trained physicians in US residency slots (I am not suggesting this is a bad thing). Programs have become increasing comfortable over the years taking american trained osteopaths over foreign trained MDs as osteopathic applicants have greatly improved.
 
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