it does not address the point that the level of NP training BASED on scientific principles is different then training received by a CRNA, PA, or MD/DO. This is my entire argument - no one else has a problem with this idea that we all receive different levels of training.
When you say no one else you can include me. I know all of the programs are different; thats why, well one reason why, Im in the NP program.
But off you go with this idea that your monk like ways make you more experienced then everyone else and our pathetic notions of scientific based treatments are so childlike and well not even close to your enlightened ways.
Dont know how you came up with that. Remember, if you will, that I was telling you what your peers were saying. Ill repeat what I said earlier
What I am for is INTEGRATIVE medicine. I'm all for empirical studies of "alternative" modalities as long as we recognize the limitations of even double-blinded studies.
This idea is derived from your continual attacks on medical training (all of it NP/CRNA/PA/MD/DO). get a grip zenman and accept that your training has limitation just like my training has
Well, I certainly realize that my NP training has its problems and have never said that it didnt.
...the idea that putting on goat skin chaps and headdress - chanting and sacrificing chickens makes your idea of medicine superior to accepted practices is INSANE.
What I want too get across to you is that by studying other and older modalities, you will find interesting things, for ex. that shamans had mind-body medicine down long before more recent experts, including Candace Pert. Many physicians/psychologists/nurses, etc.. make trips into the jungle and come out with a new perspective.
Get in line with the rest of us and provide excellent healthcare for our patients based on accepted treatment practices or malpractice insurance will be a figment of your imagination.
I intend to as long as its Integrative Medicine!
hey zenman i am just giving you grief - no hate here
No problem.
Below is a list of medical schools that think like I do
thank goodness. Hopefully youre in one. Others might be interested also so Ill list their website also.
The Consortium of Academic Health Centers for Integrative Medicine
Definition of Integrative Medicine
Integrative Medicine is the practice of medicine that reaffirms the importance of the relationship between practitioner and patient, focuses on the whole person, is informed by evidence, and makes use of all appropriate therapeutic approaches, healthcare professionals and disciplines to achieve optimal health and healing.
Albert Einstein College of Medicine of Yeshiva University
Continuum Center for Health and Healing
www.healthandhealingny.org
Columbia University
Richard and Hinda Rosenthal Center for Complementary & Alternative Medicine
www.rosenthal.hs.columbia.edu
Duke University
Duke Center for Integrative Medicine
www.dcim.org
Georgetown University
Kaplan Clinic
www.georgetown.edu/schmed/cam
George Washington University
Center for Integrative Medicine
www.integrativemedicinedc.com
Harvard Medical School
Osher Institute
www.osher.hms.harvard.edu
Laval University
Approche Integree en Sante
Oregon Health and Science University
Women's Primary Care and Integrative Medicine, Center forWomen's Health
www.ohsu.edu/orccamind
www.ohsuwomenshealth.com/services/doctors/integrative.html
Thomas Jefferson University
Center for Integrative Medicine
www.jeffersonhospital.org/cim
University of Alberta
Complementary and Alternative Research and Education (CARE)
University of Arizona
Program for Integrative Medicine
www.integrativemedicine.arizona.edu
University of Calgary
Canadian Institute of Natural & Integrative Medicine
www.cinim.org
www.ucalgary.ca
University of California, Irvine
Susan Samueli Center for Integrative Medicine
www.ucihs.uci.edu/com/samueli
University of California, Los Angeles
Collaborative Centers for Integrative Medicine
www.uclamindbody.org
University of California, San Francisco
Osher Center for Integrative Medicine
www.ucsf.edu/ocim
University of Connecticut
School of Medicine
www.uchc.edu
University of Hawaii at Manoa
Program in Integrative Medicine
www.uhm.hawaii.edu
University of Maryland
Center for Integrative Medicine
www.compmed.umm.edu
University of Massachusetts
Center for Mindfulness
www.umassmed.edu/cfm/
University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey
Institute for Complementary & Alternative Medicine
www.umdnj.edu/icam
University of Michigan
Michigan Integrative Medicine
www.med.umich.edu/mim
University of Minnesota
Center for Spirituality and Healing
www.csh.umn.edu
University of New Mexico
Health Science Center
hsc.umm.edu/medicine/Integrative_med
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
Program on Integrative Medicine
pim.med.unc.edu
University of Pennsylvania
Office of Complementary Therapies
www.med.upenn.edu/penncam
University of Pittsburgh
Center for Complementary Medicine
integrativemedicine.upmc.com
University of Texas Medical Branch
UTMB Integrative Health Care
cam.utmb.edu
University of Washington
Department of Family Medicine
www.fammed.washington.edu/predoctoral/cam
Wake Forest University
Holistic and Integrative Medicine
www1.wfubmc.edu/phim/
