Official 2019 Step 2 CK Experiences and Scores Thread

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Please, limit your posts and questions to only CK exam experience related. It's hard for others to go through so many unrelated posts to finally a post about CK exam.

Thank you very much to all those who share their experience with everyone.

Best of luck!

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Ended up with a 236 which was the exact score I got on UWSA 2. Hoping to match pediatrics so I think I'm happy with this score! Posting this to show that SDN isn't just all 250+ haha
 
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I am noticing a trend from people at my school. UWSA scores +/- 10. Many questions not in U World, despite U World being predictive. Many questions ultra clinically oriented to stuff you generally only pickup from wards. Lot of management for outpatient surgical and medical specialist type stuff, most of it common sense but easy to get tripped up, especially given most of 3rd year is inpatient so perhaps reading STEPup in deficiency areas would be good. Most tougher pathophys is cardiopulm heavy, whereas it was much more spread out for STEP1.

More educated guessing compared to STEP1 but generally it is based on intuition formed from basic medical knowledge. Still the make or break is how well you memorized common algorithms, so as to not lose points on the gimmes that everyone gets: this is accomplised by UWorld. Sometimes esoteric details of common problems, such as UTIs, diabetic neuropathy, and palpitations, are asked. Those we get right, we tend to commonly attribute to critical thinking. This is sometimes true but often reverse rationalization confirmation bias. I found some correct answers in journals that were literally comparing another intuitively sensible treatment in some sort of trial or retrospective analysis. And that other intuitive choice was also a choice on the exam. So the best way to prepare is actually to have great knowledge base.

UWorld is great and USMLEpro swears by it as the only resource for dedicated. I agree +/- STEPup for clinical clerkship gaps, such as in outpatient management in my case. But during the year, it is good to constantly read up on patients during the day and after rotations on a resource that goes into new evidence based data in a succinct manner, namely Uptodate is the gold standard. This will ensure you not only get correct what most people get correct but also what most people don't, thus maximizing probability of the highest possible score above the median.
 
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So let me preface this by saying I'm not a very smart or even good test-taker, and I'm definitely not at the level of some of you other SDN posters out there. But I got a 232, and my goal was pretty much anything above 230+ as I'm not going after anything competitive. I definitely felt bad walking out of that test center as did most other people and at one point in the exam I remember thinking I might have failed (which was literally the LAST thing you want to think about). I also remember towards the end just saying to myself "Okay, this whole test was a disaster, let's just try to pass".

Took exam 6/22. 2 weeks out I took NBME 7 and got a 224, 2 weeks before that I took UWSA2 and got a 238, the week before that I took UWSA1 and got a 228, and the week before that I took NBME 6 and got a 209 (diagnostic). Overall I did not really improve that much, but I am happy with my score and I really hope I can match into family or IM. All in all it seems correct that NBME 7 underpredicts your score and your actual Step 2 CK score will likely fall somewhere between UWSA1 and UWSA2.

For anyone out there who's like me who struggled during Step 1 and is having a hard time with CK, my door is always open. Feel free to ask me anything and I'll be more than happy to help you or make you feel better. I can't promise that you'll get anything higher than a 232 if you follow my advice :lol: But I can definitely offer my support and tell you if I think you should take the test if you're on the fence or there's any doubt
 
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My step 2 CK was smack dab average between my two UWSAs. Ended up with a 250, which I hope will make up for my sadly below average step 1!
 
what up yall. thanks for the inspiration. 262 on USMLE Step 2 (UWSA 254 and 256). watch OME and do well on shelf/comats. #DOout
 
So let me preface this by saying I'm not a very smart or even good test-taker, and I'm definitely not at the level of some of you other SDN posters out there. But I got a 232, and my goal was pretty much anything above 230+ as I'm not going after anything competitive. I definitely felt bad walking out of that test center as did most other people and at one point in the exam I remember thinking I might have failed (which was literally the LAST thing you want to think about). I also remember towards the end just saying to myself "Okay, this whole test was a disaster, let's just try to pass".

Took exam 6/22. 2 weeks out I took NBME 7 and got a 224, 2 weeks before that I took UWSA2 and got a 238, the week before that I took UWSA1 and got a 228, and the week before that I took NBME 6 and got a 209 (diagnostic). Overall I did not really improve that much, but I am happy with my score and I really hope I can match into family or IM. All in all it seems correct that NBME 7 underpredicts your score and your actual Step 2 CK score will likely fall somewhere between UWSA1 and UWSA2.

For anyone out there who's like me who struggled during Step 1 and is having a hard time with CK, my door is always open. Feel free to ask me anything and I'll be more than happy to help you or make you feel better. I can't promise that you'll get anything higher than a 232 if you follow my advice :lol: But I can definitely offer my support and tell you if I think you should take the test if you're on the fence or there's any doubt

Thank you for your honest message, i can definitely relate to your post. I only took one assessment following my prep (used uworld only, avg approx 74%). I took UWSA 1 - got a 249. Im not sure if that was a fluke but I was near the end of my testing window period so i booked my exam and took it. Halfway through the exam 4th block onwards it was really tough, i would say the 5th and 6th were brutal and I had to keep myself to keep going. 10-20% of the exam I felt sure about, 10 % felt completely random, and the remaining I would say was 50/50. I took my exam 6/27 so im still waiting results but im extremely nervous. Anyone know if there are test questions in step 2 ck they omit or how the marking approx is? in regards to how much you can get wrong and still do reasonably well? The waiting is really not helping...
 
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yeah...not sure what happened. Came out feeling much better than i did for my 252 step 1....
I scored a 261 with UWSA2 being a 271. I know yawl situations far far more heartbreaking. But I want share I felt the same better than STEP1 feeling post exam. I think we might have had relatively easier exams with harsher "curves." I didn't even get much wrong, when I looked up answers between breaks and after. My exam just felt like a giant IM shelf.
 
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Got scores today...

Step 1 251

Step 2 Prep- 2 weeks dedicated (last clinical rotation was IM)
74% correct on 70% completion of UWORLD first pass
USWA 1 251- 1.5 weeks out
USWA 2 247- 4 days out

Step 2 CK- 261

In my opinion, no other resources are really needed for studying other than a thorough dive into UWORLD. Develop a routine that works for you and stick to it! Good luck!
 
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What does everyone do the day before the exam? I am pretty nervous for this thing tomorrow, especially after seeing people score 20 points lower than their UWSA scores?

UWSA 240 - 4 weeks out
NBME 6 218 - 3 weeks out
NBME 7 237 - 2 weeks out
NBME 8 256 - 1 week out
UWSA 2 249 - 4 days before
Free 120 82% correct - 2 days before

Any advice for day before studying/review and some thoughts based off of my practice scores?
Thanks in advance and good luck to anyone taking the exam today and tomorrow!
 
What does everyone do the day before the exam? I am pretty nervous for this thing tomorrow, especially after seeing people score 20 points lower than their UWSA scores?

UWSA 240 - 4 weeks out
NBME 6 218 - 3 weeks out
NBME 7 237 - 2 weeks out
NBME 8 256 - 1 week out
UWSA 2 249 - 4 days before
Free 120 82% correct - 2 days before

Any advice for day before studying/review and some thoughts based off of my practice scores?
Thanks in advance and good luck to anyone taking the exam today and tomorrow!
If you read through this thread, you’ll see you should expect the average of your UWSA 1+2 +/- 10. (Obviously there are outliers, and outliers post more as per usual).

Step 1: 250

UWSA 1: 255 (4 weeks out)
UWSA 2: 267 (1 week out)

Step 2: 264

I’m a DO student, I’m top 10 in my class and I have honored every COMAT exam.

Trust your scores and your instincts. Relax however you like (I had a beer and hung out with friends). If you feel the need to review - follow your gut.

Everyone approaches this differently, it’s hard to really direct someone.
 
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What does everyone do the day before the exam? I am pretty nervous for this thing tomorrow, especially after seeing people score 20 points lower than their UWSA scores?

UWSA 240 - 4 weeks out
NBME 6 218 - 3 weeks out
NBME 7 237 - 2 weeks out
NBME 8 256 - 1 week out
UWSA 2 249 - 4 days before
Free 120 82% correct - 2 days before

Any advice for day before studying/review and some thoughts based off of my practice scores?
Thanks in advance and good luck to anyone taking the exam today and tomorrow!
I have always subscribed to the mindset of relax the day before USMLE and don't do any hardcore studying or question sets. If you haven't learned something by now then it's too late, just accept the losses on any content you don't know. I like to lightly brush over the little nuanced nitpicking rote memorization details they like to test us on but we always forget....like the biostats equations, developmental milestones, glycogen/lysosomal storage diseases, etc. If you are not comfortable with the immunodeficiency diseases then definitely review those, they are super high yield on step 2ck. I remember about 5 questions on my test just on immunodeficiency.

But other than that I like to just relax my mind and do something nonmedically related that I enjoy. If you can get a workout in then do it. It will tire you out and help you sleep better if you have trouble sleeping the night before. The test is loooong and exhausting, you will likely start losing steam by section 5. Getting a good night's sleep and having a clear focused brain is important. So don't stress yourself out today. Just trust the process and trust your preparation. Thousands of students before you studied the same materials over the same amount of time and were successful. You WILL BE successful tomorrow. And thousands after us will do the same as well. Best of luck and I hope you kill it tomorrow!
 
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I feel like UWorld/nbmes screwed me over for the real test. Havent gotten my score back yet but based on those I've looked up.

On uworld/nbmes theres usually some kind of trick you have to unlock that when you get it you feel good about your answer. Usually if you just answer based on buzzwords/vague gestalt it's a trap.

On the real thing it was the opposite. It was actually very straightforward, almost deceptively so but then they would throw in some weird detail to make you doubt your intuition.

There are at least 5-10 I got wrong for trying to see a trick that wasnt there. My advice would be to feel comfortable picking answer choices that you can come up with a very straightforward reasoning for. Don't do what I did and talk yourself out of a straightforward answer or your knee jerk response because the wording isnt 100 pct what you expected it to be or you're not 100 pct sure it works mechanistically. More likely than not it's an easy question masquerading as a tough question not a trap

It's a very different beast than step 1 which imo is more of a reflection of analytical thinking abilities. More than even shelves I felt it tested obscure minutiae of clinical reasoning. Another test taking tip is if it seems too detailed realize that you arent expected to know that level of detail and that itself can be a clue to the answer. You likely know the answer dont get thrown off by the choices
 
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I have always subscribed to the mindset of relax the day before USMLE and don't do any hardcore studying or question sets. If you haven't learned something by now then it's too late, just accept the losses on any content you don't know. I like to lightly brush over the little nuanced nitpicking rote memorization details they like to test us on but we always forget....like the biostats equations, developmental milestones, glycogen/lysosomal storage diseases, etc. If you are not comfortable with the immunodeficiency diseases then definitely review those, they are super high yield on step 2ck. I remember about 5 questions on my test just on immunodeficiency.

But other than that I like to just relax my mind and do something nonmedically related that I enjoy. If you can get a workout in then do it. It will tire you out and help you sleep better if you have trouble sleeping the night before. The test is loooong and exhausting, you will likely start losing steam by section 5. Getting a good night's sleep and having a clear focused brain is important. So don't stress yourself out today. Just trust the process and trust your preparation. Thousands of students before you studied the same materials over the same amount of time and were successful. You WILL BE successful tomorrow. And thousands after us will do the same as well. Best of luck and I hope you kill it tomorrow!


Thanks! Yeah I'm doing some DIRTY USMLE review for the annoying stuff like glycogen storage disease and some heme stuff that I always tend to forget. Going to do some biostatistics review and flashcards for a few hours and then stop around 1 or 2 I think. I feel like I made a mistake not simulating a whole exam (all 8 hours or whatever) but I hopefully won't be too mentally exhausted. Appreciate the advice and I am just going to hope that I can recall enough stuff and not freak out when the clock starts running down. I tend to panic when the clock hits 10 minutes remaining.
 
I feel like UWorld/nbmes screwed me over for the real test. Havent gotten my score back yet but based on those I've looked up.

On uworld/nbmes theres usually some kind of trick you have to unlock that when you get it you feel good about your answer. Usually if you just answer based on buzzwords/vague gestalt it's a trap.

On the real thing it was the opposite. It was actually very straightforward, almost deceptively so but then they would throw in some weird detail to make you doubt your intuition.

There are at least 5-10 I got wrong for trying to see a trick that wasnt there. My advice would be to feel comfortable picking answer choices that you can come up with a very straightforward reasoning for. Don't do what I did and talk yourself out of a straightforward answer or your knee jerk response because the wording isnt 100 pct what you expected it to be or you're not 100 pct sure it works mechanistically. More likely than not it's an easy question masquerading as a tough question not a trap

It's a very different beast than step 1 which imo is more of a reflection of analytical thinking abilities. More than even shelves I felt it tested obscure minutiae of clinical reasoning. Another test taking tip is if it seems too detailed realize that you arent expected to know that level of detail and that itself can be a clue to the answer. You likely know the answer dont get thrown off by the choices


Do the question stems give you an obscure details of pretty basic diseases and that threw you off? Also I've heard a ton of people say the question choices are so vague that they end up guessing between two very correct-sounding choices. Do you have any tips on how to remedy that on exam day? Thanks!!
 
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I would just say dont panic if you feel like you dont know the answer go into every question convinced that you have the knowledge base to answer it even if answer choices are too detailed the presentation seems a little off, you have you've never heard of some of the answer choices. Idk if there is a 100 pct way to avoid the overthink. If someone has found it I would be interested lol
 
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I agree with @financetomedicine. Overthinking will happen. Its ~320 questions, 9 hr test. Not even the people with 280s will say they didn't overthink at least 1 question. Just the nature of the test. I know I missed at least 10-15 gimmies because of overthinking. I knew the answer but due to vagueness of question/unheard of answer choices, I chose the wrong answer. The answer choices are, lot of times, minutiae of a disease so you have to critically think through the question and have a good knowledge foundation(Uworld does a great job). On UWorld/NBME practice tests, most questions direct you to 1 right answer. On the test, you will be down to 2-3 and have to make an educated guess(unless you're an allstar like 80% of the people here and average 260s). If you have been doing well on your practice exams, you probably have a good knowledge foundation so your knee-jerk answer will most likely be correct.
 
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Not sure what more I could have done at this point. I've done almost 5000 questions since the beginning of July. I think it's time for me to stop and relax now. Godspeed, everyone!

NBME, I'm coming for you.

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Anyone know if there are test questions in step 2 ck they omit or how the marking approx is? in regards to how much you can get wrong and still do reasonably well? Or is it all relative to how other students perform the same day as you? The score waiting is really nervewrecking!
 
Test in 4 days. Practice scores (roughly 4-5 days apart) have been:
NBME 6: 237 (baseline, 3 weeks ago)
NBME 7: 237
UWSA 1: 254
NBME 8: 252
UWSA 2: 261

Originally, my goal was 260. It was a lofty goal because my Step 1 was only a smidge above average and I want to improve considerably, but I’ve found that I’m much better at the clinical material than pre-clinical so I felt I might have a chance at doing pretty well on Step 2. I’m happy that I’m within range of my original goal, and realistically I’d be pretty happy with anything over 250. I suppose the rest of this week will be some targeted review and then I’ll hope for the best!
Remember to relax my Uworld scores were very similar when I took the exam a little over 2 months ago and was able to pull out a low 260. Just relax and go over stats.
 
UWORLD assessments were pretty much spot on. 242 average... scored 246. Trust your gut, intuition, and just enjoy the process if that doesnt seem crazy. you've worked hard to get here!
 
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Step 1 217 (pretty disappointed)
NBME 6 (baseline, shortly after step 1) 217
NBME 8 (8wk out) 220
UWSA 2 (40d out) 241
UWSA 1 (33d out) 254
Free120 88%
Step 2CK (exam 6/24) 243
Had initially scheduled step 2 for late May. Had two light 2wk rotations then 2wks off leading up to it, and took UWSA 2 and 1 in the week leading up to that, but decided to push back a month after my EM AI. Main reason I pushed it back was my advisor was pretty adamant about getting through UWorld twice, especially w lower step 1 score, which was definitely not going to happen. I pushed it back a month and had the AI during that time, but overall got through it 1.5x First pass ~68.5% Didn't take any more practice tests. Heard nothing but terrible things about NBME 7 so I skipped it. Given UWSA scores, dared to dream a little higher, but after step 1 experience and scores on the NBMEs, I'm honestly thrilled. +26 baby
 
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Anyone who took the test after June 23rd hear anything? Hoping the scores won't actually be delayed until August 28th.
 
Anyone who took the test after June 23rd hear anything? Hoping the scores won't actually be delayed until August 28th.
I believe I've seen two posts.... one who took it 6/24 and the other 6/25 who ended up getting their scores this week. So that's encouraging news!

Although i took my test the same week they did and did not get my score so that sucks. It's possible that the transition from old test forms to new test forms is gradual across testing centers and the delay will only affect those who took the new test forms. But I honestly have no idea, they keep us in the dark about everything! It's really frustrating. If I don't get my score by next week then I'll assume I'm waiting until August 28th.
 
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I believe I've seen two posts.... one who took it 6/24 and the other 6/25 who ended up getting their scores this week. So that's encouraging news!

Although i took my test the same week they did and did not get my score so that sucks. It's possible that the transition from old test forms to new test forms is gradual across testing centers and the delay will only affect those who took the new test forms. But I honestly have no idea, they keep us in the dark about everything! It's really frustrating. If I don't get my score by next week then I'll assume I'm waiting until August 28th.
That's possible. Took mine on July 2nd. If I don't get it after 4 weeks, I'll assume a long delay.
 
That's possible. Took mine on July 2nd. If I don't get it after 4 weeks, I'll assume a long delay.
I took mine 6/28, only 4 days before you. So under normal circumstances we are both due to get our scores next wed. I'll make a post adding my data points of practice exams and final real score, etc. to the SDN pool next wed if I get my score. I'm sure it would be encouraging for others who took it after June 23rd to know that they won't have to wait 2 months for their scores.
 
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I took mine 6/28, only 4 days before you. So under normal circumstances we are both due to get our scores next wed. I'll make a post adding my data points of practice exams and final real score, etc. to the SDN pool next wed if I get my score. I'm sure it would be encouraging for others who took it after June 23rd to know that they won't have to wait 2 months for their scores.

Yup I’m in the same boat
 
I took mine 6/28, only 4 days before you. So under normal circumstances we are both due to get our scores next wed. I'll make a post adding my data points of practice exams and final real score, etc. to the SDN pool next wed if I get my score. I'm sure it would be encouraging for others who took it after June 23rd to know that they won't have to wait 2 months for their scores.


Just confirming for usmle step 2ck when you are on an authorized break and are outside the secure testing area (testing computer room vicinity) are you allowed to leave the test center or use your phone as much as you want?
 
took exam 6/23

Step 1: 257
Step 2 ck: 258
comlex level 1: 624
comlex level 2: TBD


just used OME several times though and UWORLD 1.5x. also did all the NBME practice exams. i think those sources give you all you need. Dont take it lightly, dont listen to the people that say its a lot easier than step 1 and you dont need to try as hard. Its still a long and tough exam, just keep your head down and work hard.

glad its over. good luck and hope everyone gets their ideal match.
 
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What’s up everyone. I’ve been one of those following posts on this thread for help on CK and other threads on SDN and Reddit for studying for Step 1 and 3rd year shelfs during 2nd and 3rd years. I figured now that I am done with both Step 2s, all 3rd year shelfs, and of course Step 1, it is now my turn to contribute some [hopeful] wisdom to help other students. It's better when we look out for each other. Feel free to ask questions on here or message me privately if you’d like to know any more details regarding what I post, especially regarding CK.

To preface, I am not a natural genius. I like to think I am just your average guy who is a story of working hard, but maintaining balance throughout med school. It is possible to do well in med school and have a solid life. Take care of yourself through each of these seasons; discipline includes rest. For me, that was found in my faith, my wife, my family, and my friends. The scores below are better than I could've ever prayed for or hoped for, and I am so thankful to have them behind me. All that said, here it goes!

Step 1, 241:
My Step 1 score was a 241. It was directly between my UWSA1 score of 239 taken one month out and my UWSA2 score of 243 taken one week out. I studied roughly 8 weeks for it, only used UWorld, First Aid, and Pathoma, and took two NBMEs of which I made a 228 and 219 on. I regret taking the NBMEs because they were highly underpredictive and discouraging to me, which influenced how I studied for CK.

Third Year Shelf Exams:
In general, I always used as many questions as possible via Uworld, AAFP for FM, or UWise for OB. However, I didn’t even entertain using the new, trendy Q banks like AMBOSS or another Q bank, nor would I have in hindsight, because they aren't proven in my opinion yet or at least better than the gold standard UWorld. I used limited resources, such as books, during third year, did not care for OME, and survived off of reading my notes repeatedly from UWorld Qs and those I found online. See details below. I have arranged the exams in the order of which I took them during third year. I honored 6/6 clerkships and the numerical grade I am reporting are my raw scores, not some ambiguous percentile. Honoring for our school requires honoring the exam and honoring via clerkship evals. I refer to some online notes in my reviews below; if you wish to have the links to them, I can send them.

Pediatrics, 84%, Honored – This exam was most important to me, as I am applying pediatrics this year. I did UWorld x2, took detailed notes of the Qs and reviewed them upwards of 7x, used an incredible compilation of notes I found online that I can send the link to if desired, and grazed over OME (which I feel did not help much). This was my first exam, so I thought arguably the hardest. I took all practice NBMEs in the two weeks before the exam and honored all of those too. I also raged through PreTest two days before and feel it helped a lot doing it right before.
Ob/Gyn, 86%, Honored – The key for honoring Ob/Gyn for me was UWise. I also did UWorld, but the details of this clerkship are found in the UWise Q bank. I thought Case Files was a waste of time, and I stopped even attempting this book during this clerkship. I found some great notes online that also helped push me over the edge I believe. I took one practice NBME and did not honor it, but was on the cusp, so do with that info what you would like!
Internal Medicine, 85%, Honored – You know the people who say doing UWorld and reviewing it neurotically for the details is all you need to honor IM? I am one of those people. That’s all I did. I didn’t read SUTM or any other books like Case Files. Uworld is all you need so long as you meticulously review each answer and explanation. I also found great notes online I reviewed several times. I took all the NBME practice exams, and they were either honoring or on the border.
Psychiatry, 87%, Honored – Fun fact, I was sick this week, so I really minimalized my studying for this exam. I did Uworld of course plus FA for Psych, which was totally sufficient. No fancy online notes existed for this one, and I only took one practice NBME which I honored.
Surgery, 87%, Honored – Preface for this exam: I had IM, Peds, and OB before this exam, which I believe helped tremendously. Although many say it was the hardest exam, it did not feel so to me simply because I had these other clerkships before. I did the most reading during this clerkship though. I read De Virgilio, which is easily the best resource other than Uworld I used all third year, plus his Qs in the back. I also read Pestanas x3 and did his Qs; this book is excellent towards the middle and end of the clerkship after you’ve done some UWorld and other studying. Nix Surgical Recall. All your surgery residents will tell you it’s a must, but I doubt it will help much on your shelf like these other two do. It may score you pimping style points, but guess how much that helps your overall grade in the long run, save MAYBE a clinical eval… cero. Uworld of course is key in this clerkship as well. I did three practice NBMEs for this one and honored all 3. No fancy notes online.
Family Medicine, 81%, Honored – Welcome to the biggest curveball exam of third year. This was my last exam, so I pulled much of my knowledge from the other 5 to honor this one. I also did 1000 AAFP questions, reviewed them in-depth like I always did UWorld, and slammed through PreTest two days before. I took one practice NBME and honored it.

Step 2 CS, Pass First Attempt:
I took two weeks at the end of third year before studying for CK to study for CS. I just studied maybe 3-4 hours/day and went through FA CS 2x. I practiced a few cases with my wife (not a med student) and some classmates. I studied more than the usual time because I was not even going to chance failing this exam. It is high risk, low reward – meaning, no one genuinely cares if you pass because it is expected, but failing is a huge deal. I also bought the UWorld CS thing, but it was a waste. I took CS in Houston. Something to keep in mind is that our school sees standardized patients every week in the first two years, so I felt very comfortable with the SPs and what I was supposed to do. However, FACS helps give you info that can save you from failing in CS, like screening questions, counseling your SPs, etc. Do NOT fly into this exam blind.

Step 2 CK, 258:
I took exactly four weeks to study for CK. I had gone through all of UWorld previously during third year, averaging 74%. My strategy was simple and not cheeky – Uworld. I did every question again, aside from surgery since I had just had surgery + did not have time to redo them, and meticulously reviewed every single question again. I did 140/day every day, studying from 0630 to 1630, took a two-hour break for dinner and a TV show, then reviewed from 1830 to 2000 and went to bed. I averaged in the end 82% on my second pass. I reviewed my notes throughout those 4 weeks, as well as my surgery notes taken from my previous clerkship, and glanced over the pediatrics and IM notes I found online of which I referenced above in being critical for honoring those two clerkships. I did not use any book, OME, or AMBOSS to study for CK. I said “sayonara” to the garbage NBME exams, not taking a single one aside from a practice CCSE required for our school at the end of third year six weeks before my CK, of which I scored a 235 without any studying. I only took UWSA1, in which I scored a 258, and UWSA2, in which I scored a 259. I will continue to be one of those who promote the use of UWSA for predictors over NBMEs for Step 1 and for CK, although I realize there are outliers for which these over- or underpredict heavily. In general, I have observed UWSAs for each to be way better predictors than the NBMEs though. I reviewed both UWSA1 and UWSA2, as they had great questions. I took UWSA1 two weeks before my exam and UWSA2 one week before. I got only 4 hours of sleep before my CK because I was so nervous. Like everyone else, I walked out fearing I scored well below my Step 1 and UWSA scores and felt it was significantly harder than I expected it to be, rivaling Step 1 in difficulty. Like many others, I was elated to see the UWSAs were strong predictors for me.

I realize this is a lot of information jammed into one post, and not all the information pertains to the 2019 CK score thread, so I apologize to those who get stingy about that. If anyone has any idea where else I should post this info, please let me know, as I want my experience to help everyone else not only taking CK, but also Step 1 and the shelf exams. I want others to be encouraged that I am not some natural brainiac who sold his soul to do well. I was able to maintain a balanced life throughout med school and still better than I could've ever prayed for or hoped for. Thanks for reading everybody, and thank you to everyone who has posted their feedback in the past too! Let me know if anyone has any questions or wants any feedback/advice.
 
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Waited a couple of days to gather my thoughts and just quickly post my experience:
Overall thought from 07/26 exam was that it was disheartening. I felt like about 25% was straightforward gimmes, 25% was maybe straightforward but they had 2-3 answer choices that all could have been correct, 25% was difficult and you either knew it or you didn't and the last 25% was stuff I had never seen before or obscure questions that relied on minute detail or used pathophysiologic descriptions and words that no real physician would ever use. With that being said, I am a very average student and a below average test taker (testing anxiety).

I feel like I raced through the exam. I probably have 5-10 minutes left per block and went to review my flagged but it didn't really change anything. The whole time I took it I was thinking "I feel like everyone else thinks this is easy but I have no idea what is going on" I thought the exam was more like the NBMEs than UWORLD with a few lengthy paragraphs here and there. All of my ID questions were weird parasites and diseases that don't affect people in the US. Probably had 2-3 biostat questions per section. Lots of OB and endocrine on my exam. I honestly do not remember many questions from the day but it felt like STEP1 all over again. All in all, I feel like I probably failed it. Guess I'll find out in a month. For reference practice scores were 240s-250s. Just hoping to pass at this point.
 
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Pretty much how I felt after taking it. The wait until August 28th is killing me.
Waited a couple of days to gather my thoughts and just quickly post my experience:
Overall thought from 07/26 exam was that it was disheartening. I felt like about 25% was straightforward gimmes, 25% was maybe straightforward but they had 2-3 answer choices that all could have been correct, 25% was difficult and you either knew it or you didn't and the last 25% was stuff I had never seen before or obscure questions that relied on minute detail or used pathophysiologic descriptions and words that no real physician would ever use. With that being said, I am a very average student and a below average test taker (testing anxiety).

I feel like I raced through the exam. I probably have 5-10 minutes left per block and went to review my flagged but it didn't really change anything. The whole time I took it I was thinking "I feel like everyone else thinks this is easy but I have no idea what is going on" I thought the exam was more like the NBMEs than UWORLD with a few lengthy paragraphs here and there. All of my ID questions were weird parasites and diseases that don't affect people in the US. Probably had 2-3 biostat questions per section. Lots of OB and endocrine on my exam. I honestly do not remember many questions from the day but it felt like STEP1 all over again. All in all, I feel like I probably failed it. Guess I'll find out in a month. For reference practice scores were 240s-250s. Just hoping to pass at this point.
 
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Thanks for sharing your valuable experience. Very helpful.

My question is in regards to step 2 CK specifically. Not taking into account the clerkships or clerkship exams. How much do you think UWise helped for the OB/GYN part and AAFP questions for the family medicine part on step 2 CK?

What’s up everyone. I’ve been one of those following posts on this thread for help on CK and other threads on SDN and Reddit for studying for Step 1 and 3rd year shelfs during 2nd and 3rd years. I figured now that I am done with both Step 2s, all 3rd year shelfs, and of course Step 1, it is now my turn to contribute some [hopeful] wisdom to help other students. It's better when we look out for each other. Feel free to ask questions on here or message me privately if you’d like to know any more details regarding what I post, especially regarding CK.

To preface, I am not a natural genius. I like to think I am just your average guy who is a story of working hard, but maintaining balance throughout med school. It is possible to do well in med school and have a solid life. Take care of yourself through each of these seasons; discipline includes rest. For me, that was found in my faith, my wife, my family, and my friends. The scores below are better than I could've ever prayed for or hoped for, and I am so thankful to have them behind me. All that said, here it goes!

Step 1, 241:
My Step 1 score was a 241. It was directly between my UWSA1 score of 239 taken one month out and my UWSA2 score of 243 taken one week out. I studied roughly 8 weeks for it, only used UWorld, First Aid, and Pathoma, and took two NBMEs of which I made a 228 and 219 on. I regret taking the NBMEs because they were highly underpredictive and discouraging to me, which influenced how I studied for CK.

Third Year Shelf Exams:
In general, I always used as many questions as possible via Uworld, AAFP for FM, or UWise for OB. However, I didn’t even entertain using the new, trendy Q banks like AMBOSS or another Q bank, nor would I have in hindsight, because they aren't proven in my opinion yet or at least better than the gold standard UWorld. I used limited resources, such as books, during third year, did not care for OME, and survived off of reading my notes repeatedly from UWorld Qs and those I found online. See details below. I have arranged the exams in the order of which I took them during third year. I honored 6/6 clerkships and the numerical grade I am reporting are my raw scores, not some ambiguous percentile. Honoring for our school requires honoring the exam and honoring via clerkship evals. I refer to some online notes in my reviews below; if you wish to have the links to them, I can send them.

Pediatrics, 84%, Honored – This exam was most important to me, as I am applying pediatrics this year. I did UWorld x2, took detailed notes of the Qs and reviewed them upwards of 7x, used an incredible compilation of notes I found online that I can send the link to if desired, and grazed over OME (which I feel did not help much). This was my first exam, so I thought arguably the hardest. I took all practice NBMEs in the two weeks before the exam and honored all of those too. I also raged through PreTest two days before and feel it helped a lot doing it right before.
Ob/Gyn, 86%, Honored – The key for honoring Ob/Gyn for me was UWise. I also did UWorld, but the details of this clerkship are found in the UWise Q bank. I thought Case Files was a waste of time, and I stopped even attempting this book during this clerkship. I found some great notes online that also helped push me over the edge I believe. I took one practice NBME and did not honor it, but was on the cusp, so do with that info what you would like!
Internal Medicine, 85%, Honored – You know the people who say doing UWorld and reviewing it neurotically for the details is all you need to honor IM? I am one of those people. That’s all I did. I didn’t read SUTM or any other books like Case Files. Uworld is all you need so long as you meticulously review each answer and explanation. I also found great notes online I reviewed several times. I took all the NBME practice exams, and they were either honoring or on the border.
Psychiatry, 87%, Honored – Fun fact, I was sick this week, so I really minimalized my studying for this exam. I did Uworld of course plus FA for Psych, which was totally sufficient. No fancy online notes existed for this one, and I only took one practice NBME which I honored.
Surgery, 87%, Honored – Preface for this exam: I had IM, Peds, and OB before this exam, which I believe helped tremendously. Although many say it was the hardest exam, it did not feel so to me simply because I had these other clerkships before. I did the most reading during this clerkship though. I read De Virgilio, which is easily the best resource other than Uworld I used all third year, plus his Qs in the back. I also read Pestanas x3 and did his Qs; this book is excellent towards the middle and end of the clerkship after you’ve done some UWorld and other studying. Nix Surgical Recall. All your surgery residents will tell you it’s a must, but I doubt it will help much on your shelf like these other two do. It may score you pimping style points, but guess how much that helps your overall grade in the long run, save MAYBE a clinical eval… cero. Uworld of course is key in this clerkship as well. I did three practice NBMEs for this one and honored all 3. No fancy notes online.
Family Medicine, 81%, Honored – Welcome to the biggest curveball exam of third year. This was my last exam, so I pulled much of my knowledge from the other 5 to honor this one. I also did 1000 AAFP questions, reviewed them in-depth like I always did UWorld, and slammed through PreTest two days before. I took one practice NBME and honored it.

Step 2 CS, Pass First Attempt:
I took two weeks at the end of third year before studying for CK to study for CS. I just studied maybe 3-4 hours/day and went through FA CS 2x. I practiced a few cases with my wife (not a med student) and some classmates. I studied more than the usual time because I was not even going to chance failing this exam. It is high risk, low reward – meaning, no one genuinely cares if you pass because it is expected, but failing is a huge deal. I also bought the UWorld CS thing, but it was a waste. I took CS in Houston. Something to keep in mind is that our school sees standardized patients every week in the first two years, so I felt very comfortable with the SPs and what I was supposed to do. However, FACS helps give you info that can save you from failing in CS, like screening questions, counseling your SPs, etc. Do NOT fly into this exam blind.

Step 2 CK, 258:
I took exactly four weeks to study for CK. I had gone through all of UWorld previously during third year, averaging 74%. My strategy was simple and not cheeky – Uworld. I did every question again, aside from surgery since I had just had surgery + did not have time to redo them, and meticulously reviewed every single question again. I did 140/day every day, studying from 0630 to 1630, took a two-hour break for dinner and a TV show, then reviewed from 1830 to 2000 and went to bed. I averaged in the end 82% on my second pass. I reviewed my notes throughout those 4 weeks, as well as my surgery notes taken from my previous clerkship, and glanced over the pediatrics and IM notes I found online of which I referenced above in being critical for honoring those two clerkships. I did not use any book, OME, or AMBOSS to study for CK. I said “sayonara” to the garbage NBME exams, not taking a single one aside from a practice CCSE required for our school at the end of third year six weeks before my CK, of which I scored a 235 without any studying. I only took UWSA1, in which I scored a 258, and UWSA2, in which I scored a 259. I will continue to be one of those who promote the use of UWSA for predictors over NBMEs for Step 1 and for CK, although I realize there are outliers for which these over- or underpredict heavily. In general, I have observed UWSAs for each to be way better predictors than the NBMEs though. I reviewed both UWSA1 and UWSA2, as they had great questions. I took UWSA1 two weeks before my exam and UWSA2 one week before. I got only 4 hours of sleep before my CK because I was so nervous. Like everyone else, I walked out fearing I scored well below my Step 1 and UWSA scores and felt it was significantly harder than I expected it to be, rivaling Step 1 in difficulty. Like many others, I was elated to see the UWSAs were strong predictors for me.

I realize this is a lot of information jammed into one post, and not all the information pertains to the 2019 CK score thread, so I apologize to those who get stingy about that. If anyone has any idea where else I should post this info, please let me know, as I want my experience to help everyone else not only taking CK, but also Step 1 and the shelf exams. I want others to be encouraged that I am not some natural brainiac who sold his soul to do well. I was able to maintain a balanced life throughout med school and still better than I could've ever prayed for or hoped for. Thanks for reading everybody, and thank you to everyone who has posted their feedback in the past too! Let me know if anyone has any questions or wants any feedback/advice.
 
Pretty much how I felt after taking it. The wait until August 28th is killing me.

Same here. What's killing me the most is how many easy questions I missed because of overthinking due to the weird nature of the test... I just felt so thrown off I made mistakes I dont usually make, changed right answers to wrong... ugh
 
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Anyone have their permit button disappear today? Took CK on 6/27 and wondering if another batch of scores are going to be released this week vs we can expect to get scores released at the end of August as per announcement
 
Thanks for sharing your valuable experience. Very helpful.

My question is in regards to step 2 CK specifically. Not taking into account the clerkships or clerkship exams. How much do you think UWise helped for the OB/GYN part and AAFP questions for the family medicine part on step 2 CK?
Good question. I wouldn't use them during dedicated CK studying at all. However, I do think the info from these two banks helped build my foundation of knowledge for these subjects, which helped with CK in the long run, although most immediately beneficial for the shelfs. Hope this helps!
 
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Anyone have their permit button disappear today? Took CK on 6/27 and wondering if another batch of scores are going to be released this week vs we can expect to get scores released at the end of August as per announcement

I wrote mine on 06/27 as well, permit disappeared shortly after I took the exam though so i'm not sure. Hopefully released this week, the wait is killing me!
 
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I realized that I posted in 2018 thread, haha.

Step I: 218

UWSA 1 (2 months out): 237
UWSA 2 (1 month out): 244
NBME 6,7,8(each a week apart up to exam): 225, 218, 230

Step II: 256

I’m really happy with the improvement! I was really down on myself with step I. My goal is IM.

what I realized with the first step was I spent WAY too much time trying to RE-read through materials (first AID, pathoma, etc) rather than doing questions (I had roughly 700 questions undone).

For second step, I made sure to go through the Online MedEd vids throughout the year, in addition to using UWorld for shelf study. By the time April rolled around I had taken all of my shelfs. I still had roughly 800 UWorld Qs undone but I reset the bank anyways to try and pace to finish all of questions by my exam date (mid-June). By the end of my study period this time I had roughly 150 questions unfinished (I just take forever with questions). I was much more improved on my “second pass” (60% to 74ish% correct on reset).

The other thing I did differently was I did my questions on tutor mode by category (occasionally I did timed and mixed sets). This helped a lot more because in the process of seeing questions within a specific discipline (eg cardio) it helps with comparing and contrasting things that you can easily mix up. It also gives you the chance to apply a topic you got wrong on a subsequent question to help reinforce understanding. This is in contrast to step I where I did all of my question sets mixed and untimed. I realize that while it simulates the real exam with variety in content and timing, you don’t get the same opportunity to compare and contrast as I had previously mentioned. Anyways, you can get practice with timing/mixed topics with the practice exams.

Also, I saved bioethics/stats questions until the last week before the exam (dirty usmle on youtube was great for quick review before questions).

Lastly, I took two days off prior to this exam (for step 1 I made the mistake of trying to cram those 2 days). It really helps you feel fresh going in.

Overall:
- Get through UWorld. Do a second pass if possible! Try to redo incorrect questions!
- online meded
- rest before exam
- I also had firecracker - the daily questions are great, and having random flash cards are a good way to review if you need a break or change of pace from the UWorld practice questions (less energy and effort but still an opportunity to learn.)

This is my personal experience, so obviously everyone has their own preference. But the important thing is to try and do something different if the first time didn’t work out the way you wanted. For me, getting through more questions and having more reps that way was a game changer.

Good luck everyone!
 
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I realized that I posted in 2018 thread, haha.

Step I: 218

UWSA 1 (2 months out): 237
UWSA 2 (1 month out): 244
NBME 6,7,8(each a week apart up to exam): 225, 218, 230

Step II: 256

I’m really happy with the improvement! I was really down on myself with step I. My goal is IM.

what I realized with the first step was I spent WAY too much time trying to RE-read through materials (first AID, pathoma, etc) rather than doing questions (I had roughly 700 questions undone).

For second step, I made sure to go through the Online MedEd vids throughout the year, in addition to using UWorld for shelf study. By the time April rolled around I had taken all of my shelfs. I still had roughly 800 UWorld Qs undone but I reset the bank anyways to try and pace to finish all of questions by my exam date (mid-June). By the end of my study period this time I had roughly 150 questions unfinished (I just take forever with questions). I was much more improved on my “second pass” (60% to 74ish% correct on reset).

The other thing I did differently was I did my questions on tutor mode by category (occasionally I did timed and mixed sets). This helped a lot more because in the process of seeing questions within a specific discipline (eg cardio) it helps with comparing and contrasting things that you can easily mix up. It also gives you the chance to apply a topic you got wrong on a subsequent question to help reinforce understanding. This is in contrast to step I where I did all of my question sets mixed and untimed. I realize that while it simulates the real exam with variety in content and timing, you don’t get the same opportunity to compare and contrast as I had previously mentioned. Anyways, you can get practice with timing/mixed topics with the practice exams.

Also, I saved bioethics/stats questions until the last week before the exam (dirty usmle on youtube was great for quick review before questions).

Lastly, I took two days off prior to this exam (for step 1 I made the mistake of trying to cram those 2 days). It really helps you feel fresh going in.

Overall:
- Get through UWorld. Do a second pass if possible! Try to redo incorrect questions!
- online meded
- rest before exam
- I also had firecracker - the daily questions are great, and having random flash cards are a good way to review if you need a break or change of pace from the UWorld practice questions (less energy and effort but still an opportunity to learn.)

This is my personal experience, so obviously everyone has their own preference. But the important thing is to try and do something different if the first time didn’t work out the way you wanted. For me, getting through more questions and having more reps that way was a game changer.

Good luck everyone!

Congrats first of all :) thats really motivating to see! What was your exam experience like? did you feel it was similar to UWORLD and the assessments you did?
 
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