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i was 5 points off..
nbme 8: 210 (4 months out)
nbme 7: 236 ( 3 months out)
nbme 6: 240 (2 months out)
Free 120: 82% ( 4 weeks out)
uwsa1: 240 (2 weeks out)
uwsa2: 253 (1 week out)
uworld 1st pass 72% 2nd pass 80%

not sure what went wrong
With all due respect, I think your full of it. you just made an account a week ago, you never post on here, and all of the sudden you post this trolling experience of how your practice scores were amazing and then you failed CK? also your telling us that your step 1 , went the same way, you had again great practice scores and then barely passed with a 210, how come you didn't post about that experience on here then? also you performed lower on your step 1 than ck?? post your score report and I will apologize and believe you, and your practice exam scores. You also had a great nights sleep and didn't get any anxiety before the exam and then failed, unless you consume ungodly amounts of benzos right before bed, your most likely lying.
P.S. I am a pretty semi-gullible guy, and give benefit of doubt, and even I don't believe you.
 
Jan 17, 2018
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Ok it time do right a wrong, and I wronged the other SDN member. He was telling the truth, I couldn't believe it, but he proved me wrong, therefore I apologize sincerely, it's hard enough sharing your experience on here, and I made it even harder by doubting this student. Again I apologize and you are truly a victim of history because of past trolls on here. I am going to dissect what went wrong, and wow the NBME's were so off!




With all due respect, I think your full of it. you just made an account a week ago, you never post on here, and all of the sudden you post this trolling experience of how your practice scores were amazing and then you failed CK? also your telling us that your step 1 , went the same way, you had again great practice scores and then barely passed with a 210, how come you didn't post about that experience on here then? also you performed lower on your step 1 than ck?? post your score report and I will apologize and believe you, and your practice exam scores. You also had a great nights sleep and didn't get any anxiety before the exam and then failed, unless you consume ungodly amounts of benzos right before bed, your most likely lying.
P.S. I am a pretty semi-gullible guy, and give benefit of doubt, and even I don't believe you.
 
Aug 19, 2018
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U.S. IMG - Super low Step 1 - 191 (this was back in the day when passing was 188)

NBME 6 - 8 weeks prior - 190
UWSA 1 - 2.5 weeks prior - 215
UWSA 2 - 2 weeks prior - 215 (didn't finish ~10 questions, more about this below)

NBME 7 - 1 week prior - 216 (no problems with timing)
Free 120 - 3 days prior - 80%
NBME 8 - 2 days prior - 233
UWorld 1st pass - 57% | UWorld 2nd pass (just incorrects) - 82%, All Qs - 90%)

Step 2 CK: 229

My foundation was ridiculously weak since I've been removed from the material and my Step 1 for so long. It's been a long uphill battle getting back into test taking shape. My test seemed to have a bunch of Step 1-like garbage questions that I laughed off in my head, clicked, and moved on. For reference, I blindly guessed all 6 of my drug ad questions because I left them last and had zero time to sit and read through the ads.

As you can tell from my history of scores, I was pleasantly surprised and happy with the final outcome. I've been a longtime lurker here but wanted to share this to give those with lower practice scores hope. My goal was 230 so I got pretty close!

Getting multiple practice ~215s in a row was initially daunting and anxiety-inducing because I of course wanted to improve in a short amount of time but felt like I couldn't break this point barrier. But I knew in my core I could improve because my timing and test-taking was holding me back (4 Qs per block of blind guessing due to lack of time - think of it, that's 10% of the test!) and that area I could quickly improve on for sure. For funsies I re-calculated UWSA 2 after spending an additional 1 minute per question for the ones I blindly guessed on - my score jumped to 228, so I knew that if I managed my time better, I could hit that.

Thus, I would say UWSA 2 (with the recalculation) and NBME 8 were my closest predictors. NBME 7 is a notorious underpredictor so don't let that bring you down if you've been doing well on the others. I saw the biggest change in my final week of studying, when I had my back against the wall and it was do or die time. My gf literally sat next to me, timed and called out the # of seconds I spent on every Q as I practiced my timed, random UWorld blocks and it did wonders to change my internal clock/pacing. If you have problems with finishing blocks like I have, I highly recommend bringing in a buddy to do something similar and help analyze where you're getting stuck on.

I have a million other observations but I won't bog anyone down with the details unless they want to hear it or have specific questions.

Good luck!
 
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i got high 220s not what i wanted but oh well could have been worse lol.
my UWSA1 was 252 and UWSA2 was 242. I also scored 10-15 lower than my assessment on my step 1 too.
I can imagine how it feels. But what else we can do except to accept our scores. Well All the best. Hope it doesn't effect your match process
 
Apr 8, 2018
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Can anyone sign up for step 3 via fsmb? I'm expecting my result this week and I still can't sign up. CK is my last exam and my permit has disappeared.
 
Sep 30, 2019
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Dudeee this waiting game is really hard. I'm an IMG took my exam on october 7th, UWSA2 got 255 (1 month before the exam) then i did the UWSA1 270 one week before the exam, got 92% in the free 120 questions, did 100% of UW Qbank with 82% average ( first round), but i felt very bad during the exam many crazy questions with crazy options, I ran out of time in one of the Qbanks, felt pretty unsure of my answers. Everyone told me that this is a normal feeling after the exam but i'm getting crazy AF, hopefully I'll get anything above 250 but I feel like roughly I'll get 240.
Well I didn't write anything because I don't feel good about my score, it was 242.. pretty much below my UWSA and my UW but I was expecting less because I had an anxiety attack during my test but well good luck to everyone in your test.
 
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is nbme 6 has a high predictive? I was shock that i got 200 with 39qs wrong from 184qs..
i had a low step 1 aroun 210, i must gave a great step 2..
haven’t finish uworld, 30% question done get around 69% correct..
 

Forever_Blessed

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Score is out.
STEP 1: 190s
STEP 2 CK: 220s

3 weeks of dedicated. UWorld, OME, MTB.

UWSA1: 230
UWSA2: 220
UW 2nd pass: 70%

Not what I wanted after a poor step 1. Praying for the best in the match.
 
Nov 6, 2019
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Hello everyone. I am an IMG with just over 5 years post graduation with step 1 240+ and step 2 250+. Can anyone recommend me IM or FM residency programs who do not have the 5 year cutoff post graduation inorder to be eligible to apply to their programs.
 
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Hello everyone. I am an IMG with just over 5 years post graduation with step 1 240+ and step 2 250+. Can anyone recommend me IM or FM residency programs who do not have the 5 year cutoff post graduation inorder to be eligible to apply to their programs.
Hello Pay Station. Unfortunately, i cannot provide you with a list of programs, but i can tell you this: my friend who graduated in 2013, if i'm not mistaken, and has 3 years of gap in clinical practice, applied to several programs with 3 and 5 year cutoffs and he got an interview in these programs. maybe there were several other factors contributing to it, but still... he got 267/269/pass/259, GC holder, permanent resident for 3 years now. Graduated from Vitebsk Medical University, Belarus, Eastern Europe
 
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Thanks. and I am guessing "the other contributing Factor" besides the out of this world step scores was personal connection with the programs because I heard some programs don't even look at your score if you are past their 3 or 5 years graduation cutoff point. But I heard/know a couple of 40 something IMGs(one of them was my internal medicine attending at my medical school) with 10 years plus post graduation with average step scores who have Matched. I also found some IM programs who have no limit or 6 to 10 year limit on Frieda, but the process is very time consuming and I was just hoping to have a list of programs with no or 6 to 10 cutoff point with out going through each program application criteria. Anyway thanks for your reply.
 
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Thanks. and I am guessing "the other contributing Factor" besides the out of this world step scores was personal connection with the programs because I heard some programs don't even look at your score if you are past their 3 or 5 years graduation cutoff point. But I heard/know a couple of 40 something IMGs(one of them was my internal medicine attending at my medical school) with 10 years plus post graduation with average step scores who have Matched. I also found some IM programs who have no limit or 6 to 10 year limit on Frieda, but the process is very time consuming and I was just hoping to have a list of programs with no or 6 to 10 cutoff point with out going through each program application criteria. Anyway thanks for your reply.
By no means I want to come off as mean or rude here, but I had to say this: I see a common trend among many applicants that are in a disadvantageous position for the match, whether that is being an IMG, an FMG, a low scorer, an old grad, a person with a CS fail or someone with low funds, of seeking the path of least resistance and looking for quick and easy fixes - "how do i improve from 200 to 250 in 3 weeks?", "what's a list of programs with X, Y and Z specifics", "where can I find internships, observerships for free/without step scores requirements/no TOEFL", "what's a list of paid research opportunities?" are questions I see being asked quite often, especially in the relevant Facebook forums. Your first post in this forum is asking for a program list and it's not even in the relevant forum section.

What you should be doing instead is putting in the extra work required to make up for your deficiencies. You should come up with that list and noone else. After all, there is no cookie cutter list that can match everyone's profile to a program. You might be an old grad with low scores but lots of research that got an interview invitation from a program - an old grad with mediocre scores and no research might stand no chance there.

And yes it is going to be time consuming. The more thorough you want to be in your search, the more time consuming the process is going to be. Even if you got a pre-made list, would you trust it? How would you know they didn't leave out a program that might perfectly match your situtation? If you 're not commited enough to put in the hours in order to make a decision that would probably define your whole career, what incentive would any program have to hire you anyway? What work ethic would that reflect to a PD?
 
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I know you are right b/c the 2018 IMGs Nrmp data showed that many non US IMGs with low scores, got into primary care residencies and also some non US IMGs got into the highly competitive programs like derm with average and even low scores Not only that the data showed that people who got step scores below the current pass score (people who took the step when the pass score was lower) have matched. So I know that especially for old IMGs or low scoreres hard work in research and persistence matters the most (not low/high scores or graduation year). I suppose I just got a overwhelmed by the application process(passed my last step 3 days ago).
 

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not sure where i stand. exam this monday,
NBME7: 211 (i hear this underpredicts like crazy)
UWSA 1 (yesterday): 252

cant wait to be done. step 1 low 230s
 

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Hey everyone, im sorry if this has already been discussed on a previous page but how similar did the actual exam feel to uworld? Were the questions the same level of difficulty for the most part with the same types of questions or did it feel like the nbmes/shelf exams? Also has anyone used Amboss or its library to revise and found it helpful?
 

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240s to low 250s, take UWSA2 that will help
Unfortunately I was planning to take CK in july and used UW2....pretty much bombed it and had to push it to today.

Exam was meh....i felt like i could think things through and confidently answer most of them. Some were out of left field and others were step 1 bullsht that i didnt review. Whatever i just need a pass.
 
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Unfortunately I was planning to take CK in july and used UW2....pretty much bombed it and had to push it to today.

Exam was meh....i felt like i could think things through and confidently answer most of them. Some were out of left field and others were step 1 bullsht that i didnt review. Whatever i just need a pass.
U recommend going through fa step1?
 

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not too thoroughly. does help to know genetics (autosomal dom vs recessive) of common diseases, immunodeficiencies, liposomal d/o, mechanisms of common drugs but thats about it.
May I ask, did you do any of the CMS forms?

Best of Luck for your result!
 
Nov 13, 2019
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I hope I can help with my experience as an IMG from LatinAmerica
Step 1 250
My Step 2CK experience:
UWorld: 89% (1-2pass) I couldn’t complete it because of time, I did roughly 80-85% the first time and then I reset it in time and random mode, and did 65% then.
Free 120: 89% (4.5 weeks out)
UWSA1: 274 (4 weeks out)
NBME 6: 258 (2 weeks out)
NBME 7: 247 (1 week out)
UWSA 2: 266 (3 days out)
Real score: 263, just received it (13/11/2019)

I felt the exam difficult but pretty fair. I woke up in the middle of the night and couldn’t be able to go back to sleep, it was awful. I was pretty tired during the exam. I got 20 questions I was sure were wrong, some of them were easy ones. Obviously I got more questions wrong, but who knows.
I didn’t feel bad afterwards but I wasn’t sure about what my score would be.

Materials used: UWorld (80-85%done), FirstAid book, OME (60% of videos) and Anki cards (~90% reviewed).
My advice: Trust on your UWSAs scores and on what you’ve studied.
Sleep well!
 
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I hope I can help with my experience as an IMG from LatinAmerica
Step 1 250
My Step 2CK experience:
UWorld: 89% (1-2pass) I couldn’t complete it because of time, I did roughly 80-85% for the first time and then I reset it in time and random mode, and did 65% then.
Free 120: 89% (4.5 weeks out)
UWSA1: 274 (4 weeks out)
NBME 6: 258 (2 weeks out)
NBME 7: 247 (1 weeks out)
UWSA 2: 266 (3 days out)
Real score: 263, just received it (13/11/2019)

I felt the exam was difficult but pretty fair. I woke up in the middle of the night and couldn’t be able to go back to sleep, it was awful. I was pretty tired when taking the exam. I got 20 questions I was sure were wrong, some of them were easy ones. Obviously I got more questions wrong, but who knows.
I didn’t feel bad afterwards but I wasn’t sure about what my score would be.

Materials used: UWorld (80-85%done), FirstAid book, OME (60% of videos) and Anki cards (~90% reviewed).
My advice: Trust on your UWSAs scores and on what you’ve studied.
Sleep well!
Congrats on the score! Also got a 263 today and am super excited! Interestingly, one of my friends also got a 263, which made me wonder, what's the likelihood that NBME sent out incorrect score reports today where everyone got a 263? haha I know this is very unlikely, but paranoid me is starting to worry there was a glitch in the system...
 
Nov 11, 2019
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Congrats! Did you remember some questions u got wrong..about how many..?
I hope I can help with my experience as an IMG from LatinAmerica
Step 1 250
My Step 2CK experience:
UWorld: 89% (1-2pass) I couldn’t complete it because of time, I did roughly 80-85% for the first time and then I reset it in time and random mode, and did 65% then.
Free 120: 89% (4.5 weeks out)
UWSA1: 274 (4 weeks out)
NBME 6: 258 (2 weeks out)
NBME 7: 247 (1 weeks out)
UWSA 2: 266 (3 days out)
Real score: 263, just received it (13/11/2019)

I felt the exam was difficult but pretty fair. I woke up in the middle of the night and couldn’t be able to go back to sleep, it was awful. I was pretty tired when taking the exam. I got 20 questions I was sure were wrong, some of them were easy ones. Obviously I got more questions wrong, but who knows.
I didn’t feel bad afterwards but I wasn’t sure about what my score would be.

Materials used: UWorld (80-85%done), FirstAid book, OME (60% of videos) and Anki cards (~90% reviewed).
My advice: Trust on your UWSAs scores and on what you’ve studied.
Sleep well!
 
Jan 17, 2018
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Congrats on the score! Also got a 263 today and am super excited! Interestingly, one of my friends also got a 263, which made me wonder, what's the likelihood that NBME sent out incorrect score reports today where everyone got a 263? haha I know this is very unlikely, but paranoid me is starting to worry there was a glitch in the system...
I wouldn't call that a glitch, i'd call that a blessing, and if it was a 263 by accident, not the best idea to announce it on SDN ;) lol, regardless congrats on that score haha!
 
Jan 17, 2018
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Unfortunately I was planning to take CK in july and used UW2....pretty much bombed it and had to push it to today.

Exam was meh....i felt like i could think things through and confidently answer most of them. Some were out of left field and others were step 1 bullsht that i didnt review. Whatever i just need a pass.
Thanks for input on exam, will def review FA 1 now! I'm sure you got close your range, just to confirm, UW was all you needed right?