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Are there people out there still waiting to hear back? I have not received an email and my portal shows not released
I'm hearing great news from my coresidents who passed but I myself haven't received any notification from ABIM. Did anyone else not receive word yet? This sucks. I was reading in past threads that they can roll out in waves over a few day span.
What does it mean when you say ABIM 640? Passing score starts at 370. What are you referring to?All steps in 230s
ITEs all 3 years around 60-70%
ABIM 640
University hospital
Did mksap 18 x 1 (about 85% done... most of the undone ones were in neuro and derm since they are low yield)
Uworld x 1.5 (all on tutor mode)
Never read board basics
Did it slow and steady starting in November 2018 (maybe 10 questions every other day), then upped intensity in spring 2019.
Best thing in my opinion is reading throughout residency, whether it be cecils, harrisons, review articles, etc... read throughout residency and you will not need to cram at all
Score ranges from 370 (passing score), to 800 (maximum). This year, the mean score was 500. He scored 640 which is really good. I scored 516 just over the mean. All you need to score is 370 or above to passWhat does it mean when you say ABIM 640? Passing score starts at 370. What are you referring to?
I think this is potentially dangerous advice, although I understand what you're trying to do.
You mention not having time to prepare and that the test is doable, but in the same breath say you scored a 93%ile on ITE without prep. Obviously this shows you are prepared to a high level or just a test taking juggernaught. Likely both. In either case you are an outlier. Congrats on your score and fellowship.
To those who don't wake up scoring 93%ile on a whim, study hard for this exam. Whether it is slow and steady and/or dedicated month. I think there are enough brutal stories on this thread to suggest that being underprepared may be catastrophic.
Thats sort of the point. There is enough advice here about how to be over prepared so this is just a different perspective for people who may feel they don’t need to go quite as deep as some people here. Some residencies aren’t really designed to give you as much time to study as some people who post here seem to be able to take. Of all of the co-residents that I was close with, I don’t think I single person was able to actually start studying until it was over. I think there is value in balancing out the other end of the spectrum of experience that is posted here.
Also to be clear, I included the ITE for context to highlight that I wasn’t in a bad spot and thus perhaps appropriately not concerned too much. If I understand percentiles correctly, there are actually a lot of people who would be in a similar spot. Again, I think this is on perspective that other people can relate to, even if not you specifically. It’s helpful to hear all sides.
I also wouldn’t call reading all of mksap and doing all questions being underprepared. If anything I was trying to highlight that not everyone needs to start 6 months before.
Like I said, I understand your point, I'm sure everyone does. The humble brag seeps through the monitor...
You're reaching roughly 8% of the test taking population with advice akin to a wealthy son taking over his father's highly successful business. It's not all to hard, life is good. Sure, that's a different perspective. Again, I understand your point.
To each their own.
Cheers.
Correct.So my understanding is that if we cannot find ABIM verification online for people who took the exam this year, that means they did not pass the exam?
Couldn’t it imply that people also didn’t take it?So my understanding is that if we cannot find ABIM verification online for people who took the exam this year, that means they did not pass the exam?
Yes. He/she specifically mentioned people who took the exam. But not finding a name on the website could imply that a person has not taken the exam. Not everyone takes the exam right out of residency for various reasons.Couldn’t it imply that people also didn’t take it?
Was anyone here who finished residency before 2012 ever individually notified by the ABIM of the seven-year rule change for eligibility and exam options?
Or does anyone know if there was any official correspondence sent to any potentially affected physician?
I failed too!
Have one more attempt left.
Will need to start preparing again....
Failedagain and Rongy_Dringus how do I get in touch with you?
Thanks again for all your help everyone.
Sorry to hear about your exam...Are you looking to start studying with a partner?I failed too!
Have one more attempt left.
Will need to start preparing again....
Failedagain and Rongy_Dringus how do I get in touch with you?
Thanks again for all your help everyone.
I got 370 and failed! is the passing score different for different people? I am devastated! On my report it mentioned 371 as passing score.
Consider rescoring? That usually doesn’t work but since you’re so close might be worth tryingI got 370 and failed! is the passing score different for different people? I am devastated! On my report it mentioned 371 as passing score.
Oh god! I'm so sorry you failed for 1 point. My bad, I think passing was 371 not 370.I got 370 and failed! is the passing score different for different people? I am devastated! On my report it mentioned 371 as passing score.
I too failed by one point. I’m having it re scored. It cost $250. But it’ll give me piece of mind.I got 370 and failed! is the passing score different for different people? I am devastated! On my report it mentioned 371 as passing score.
I got 370 and failed! is the passing score different for different people? I am devastated! On my report it mentioned 371 as passing score.
Has any one ever heard of a change in score after having an exam re-scored??I'm so sorry! As others have said, look into getting it rescored, odds are it won't change but definitely give some closure.
I've known a couple of people who were in a similar boat. Failed by one or two points. Good news is, they all passed next time around. Keep your chin up and study hard!
I am in this boatI completed IM residency before 2012 and never took the exam, this year was the last chance.
I studied for 4 months before the exam, the last 2 months I took off to study full time and was studying 3-4 hours a day in May & June.
Obviously didn't do the trick, failed and no more attempts allowed in my case unless ABIM changes the rules. (Or go back to do an additional year of residency!)
I feel worthless right now. Hope I'll survive this experience.
Passed. I finished residency in 2012, failed that year, focused on cardiology fellowship, and tried again in 2015. Failed again. Had not studied with consistent effort. This year I took a month off work and studied Board Basics and MKSAP questions with explanation. 7-8 hours a day. Panicked a couple of days before exam and lost precious time, so barely skimmed Hematology and Neurology. Had gone over everything else twice. Walked out of the exam feeling fairly confident.
If I could pass this exam after studying for just a month, 6 years after residency and practicing only cardiology since then, BELIEVE me, you can too. Never give up. Try, and try again.
I had similar path, failed after residency. Focused on cardiology fellowship but failed after. Now devastated. Really could use some advice from someone who has walked this path. Esp on how you managed subspecialty boards and job applications. Could you message with me?
Except that you can't sit for sub-specialty boards until you pass IM boards.Just to clarify : if you are board certified in cardiology, I think most places won't care about IM boards as long as you're certified in your field of practice?
I completed IM residency before 2012 and never took the exam, this year was the last chance.
I studied for 4 months before the exam, the last 2 months I took off to study full time and was studying 3-4 hours a day in May & June.
Obviously didn't do the trick, failed and no more attempts allowed in my case unless ABIM changes the rules. (Or go back to do an additional year of residency!)
I feel worthless right now. Hope I'll survive this experience.
Just to clarify : if you are board certified in cardiology, I think most places won't care about IM boards as long as you're certified in your field of practice?
I am in the same boat as Night Runner. I failed again, and the 7 year window has elapsed... ;(
Dedicated to internal medicine, you say? Where can I learn more?!I hear this new board review platform, Skymedicine, is super high-quality for ABIM board review. The authors dedicated the site to internal medicine, unlike all of the other board review sites like UWorld and Kaplan
Dedicated to internal medicine, you say? Where can I learn more?!
I personally loved UWorld’s focus on underwater basket weaving.
I suppose you can learn more by visiting their website.
I don't think UWorld has a focus. They offer accounting, college prep, nursing, MCAT, USMLE, and both IM and Family Medicine board review.
Your attempt at humor is cute. However, humor works better when the punch line resonates other people and not only the peculiar and obscure thoughts in your head.
1) there is no website that I can find, so no. All that’s vouching for this service is your hearsay.I suppose you can learn more by visiting their website.
I don't think UWorld has a focus. They offer accounting, college prep, nursing, MCAT, USMLE, and both IM and Family Medicine board review.
Your attempt at humor is cute. However, humor works better when the punch line resonates other people and not only the peculiar and obscure thoughts in your head.
1) there is no website that I can find, so no. All that’s vouching for this service is your hearsay.
2) who cares if it’s dedicated to internal medicine? UW does have several products but as alluded to, its medicine boards review is excellent. What’s the value proposition of your new study company?
3) your advice on resonating people rather than thoughts is noted, if not comprehended.
3) Good job catching my typo, appreciated.
1) Yes, hearsay indeed, that was the point of the comment. Good job acknowledging that.
2) It is unclear why you appear so angry and defensive about UWorld. Per my hearsay, Skymedicine is super high quality for ABIM board review. Add the fact that the site focuses only on internal medicine rather than non-medical subjects like accounting and perhaps readers of this thread may be interested. Didn't realize suggesting information about ABIM board review to a thread dedicated to ABIM board review would strike the furor of a fellow who calls himself JAZZHANDS.
--Shabeer - Nope, not very humorous at all. Super peculiar and strange joke. I’m sure he had an internal giggle though.
Up to 6 weeksPassed this exam. When do we get our diplomas? I want another thing to hang from my wall.
They emailed me that my results were available on the ABIM website. My score report posted 8 weeks after I took the Board exam.How did you just find out? Was your result delayed?