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Am I underestimating this exam? I always thought this was an exam people cram for 2 weeks absolute max and go take it. It sounds like people are legitimately studying for this or is this just bc its SDN haha
You may be underestimating it. But a lot depends on what your personal testing and studying history has been. I don't think that it's any harder or easier than any of the other exams you've taken to this point, but it's definitely different. If you've been able to sail through the Steps/Levels without much extra studying, you'll probably be able to do the same with the ABIM exam. I do think everyone needs some amount of studying to get through this exam. But as long as your honest with yourself about your history and needs, you should already know what that looks like.

There's a parallel discussion in the Hem/Onc subforum (start here) about that exam that I think has a lot of really good advice (only half of it from me 😉). The bottom line is that you already know what you need to do. Don't overthink it, but don't underestimate it either.
 
Am I underestimating this exam? I always thought this was an exam people cram for 2 weeks absolute max and go take it. It sounds like people are legitimately studying for this or is this just bc its SDN haha
For the general Internal Medicine board exam, some people don't study at all for the initial and recert and pass just fine.
Others study heavily and fail.
Studying for 2 weeks probably counts as not studying at all, but might make people feel better that they did something.

It really depends on your baseline fund of knowledge and test taking skills. You have to be the judge of that and decide how much risk to take with a limited amount of prep. The quality of exam prep matters too, but the effective methods vary with the individual.
 
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Aren’t people just using Claude or ChatGPT to answer the questions?
 
I cant imagine anyone “cramming” for Recert in 2 weeks and passing… especially if they have not touched the material in 10 years.
I guarantee many people could pass the recert with minimal studying, you have an uptodate window and you can find pretty much all of the answers (or a majority of them) using that tool.
 
Aren’t people just using Claude or ChatGPT to answer the questions?

I guarantee many people could pass the recert with minimal studying, you have an uptodate window and you can find pretty much all of the answers (or a majority of them) using that tool.
yeah, with only 2 minutes per question——I used it often, but I think it actually made me more confused. I think I changed some of the answers to incorrect ones after researching up-to-date. But again the test is so anxiety provoking, if you’re sitting there, researching at all the answers on UpToDate, you’re probably gonna lose a lot of time.
Since they increased the time for the LKA PER question, maybe they should increase the amount of time to answer the questions on the 10 year recert as well .
 
I found the key (for me) to using UpToDate during the MOC 'one and done' exam was incorporating UpToDate in my question bank studying at home.
I gave myself an initial 2 minutes to answer each question, which by the time I read the entire question and decided I wasn't sure of the answer, I had about 30-45 seconds remaining for UpToDate. So, I practiced using UpToDate for only 30 secs. I got into a rhythm with it and felt that worked well for me. I learned to use UpToDate in a way that I don't use it during my usual clinical practice.
After that initial 2 minutes, I would spend more time reviewing all the wrong and right answers, maybe read some in UpToDate, then write a Ankidroid flash card (or multiple).
YMMV.
 
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During the test, I really did my best to just relax and pretend it was a research project and looked up almost every question on Uptodate. I didn't look at it like it was a test. Two minutes is quite a bit of time to read and scan for an answer on uptodate, I spent as much time as I could within reason to hunt for an answer because I reasoned to get a right answer it was worth the time.
 
This post is For those who didn't pass the exam

I didn't pass ABIM the first time, multiple reasons but basically, I didn't know what to study, I was following posts here in the student doctor network and every one was saying I did UW or MKSAP mcqs or did awesome review and I scored that much or this much blah blah blah + in the real exam I scored 500+ or 400+ etc.
Following these advices, I just did MKSAP mcqs X 2 and UW mcqs X2 plus NEJM mcqs X1 and ACP prep review course videos. I read mcq explanations and scored 20 marks below the passing score. I never failed any exam in my life so I was shattered. I couldn't sleep for months. I didn't know what I did wrong and what to do now.

In 2022 during my last year of fellowship, one of my attendings sat down with me and told me that I have very good medical knowledge but seems I don't study systematically. That advice was shook me for few days but I took it seriously. For my fellowship IT which was in Feb 2023 (in training exam) I started studying my speciality book, every system one by one and every chapter one by one. I had 2 months before the exam so I was able to give 2-3 hours every day. Aim was to do systematic studying to become knowledgeable and not just pass the exam. I was able to do 10-12 high yield chapters (out of 32 chapters) before the IT. I didn't do a single mcq during that period. I was surprised the next month, when PD called me to disclose our IT results and I scored 482 (highest in the whole program). This strategy gave me a hope that I can pass ABIM and I knew what did I do wrong.

I found 6 study partners online, 2 didn't pass the ABIM once and 3 didn't pass ABIM in their first 2 attempts. Asked their strategy and most were relying on doing as much as mcqs, some loved UW and some loved MKSAP. We discussed and started studying Board Basics 19 (online as well as paper). We would just read BB every day 1-2 hours and discuss the topics. We would go to the related text link and read mksap related text and add notes to Board basics paper form. After finishing fellowship I took a break, stayed in library for 8-12 hours from July 15th onwards. I did took Awesome review which I initially thought was very helpful but found it extremely difficult to retain any information from awesome review notes. Well 3 of my partners left the group in early june as they disagreed with our strategy of reading BB and not doing mcqs during study sessions. 2 of three wanted to just do UW mcqs and 1 just wanted to go over awesome review notes multiple times. Anyways moving forward 3 of us kept reading BB till id of july and than started our own studying. I probably have read some BB chapters 10-15 times. Just towards the end I started doing mksap 19 mcqs in the tutor mode and finished all of them 2-3 weeks before the exam and repeated them once again. BB probably has 300 pages but my BB has almost 550 pages (stuff I added from mksap). I didn't do a single UW mcq. I read awesome review cardiology and rheumatology chapters very well.

Moving forward the day of exam 1st 2 blocks I finished 30-40 min earlier, last 2 5-10 min earlier. Most questions were more than easy some were difficult. Result: I passed with score close to 500, 2 other partners who stayed with BB strategy passed (I don't know there scores). All three who wanted to just do UW/MKSAP mcqs or awesome review revision unfortunately couldn't pass. I discussed with all of them and unfortunately, they opted for mcq strategy as they were also doing jobs and didn't have time to read the book.

2 of them loved UW and failed doing just UW mcqs previously as well.

My 2 cents.

- Read some book and than do mcqs (mksap or UW)
- Reverse learning (learning from mcqs only) doesn't work in real exam. You must read a book for whatever exam you are going for and than strengthen your memory by doing mcqs. In real exam they won't give you same mcqs.
- 8000 plus docs take this exam every year 90% plus pass this exam, less than 0.5% post their experience here (that might have worked for them but might not work for you) . I trusted (posts from student doctor) them once by doing UW/mksap mcqs and awesome review and I failed. Reading the book got me through ~ Let me tell you reading the book is 10 times harder than doing just the mcqs.
- Read the same book multiple multiple times. (You should read so much that when you sleep you dream about what you've read)
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* My personal advice is "unless you scored extremely good in you IT exams", avoid doing MCQS for this exam without reading a book.

Thanks
Read MKSAP basics in and out. Do Uworld in and out. Understand the wrong answers and repeat the bank again. If you do these 2 things diligently you will pass. Medstudy live lectures are also very good as a top up.
 
Hello everyone,

I’m looking for a dedicated study partner for the ABIM exam in mid-August. If you’re preparing too and want to stay motivated, feel free to connect with me at [email protected].

I’ve also created a WhatsApp study group for shared resources and discussion:
Join the group here


Looking forward to productive studying together!

Thanks and best of luck to all!
 
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